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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2004Billy's misbehaving
For the last few days Billy has been peeing all over the house. I have no idea why. It's not tomcat territorial marking - he isn't old enough for that, and he tries to bury it every time, too. They don't try to bury that kind of pee. The litter boxes are cleaned twice a day, so it isn't that either. How do I correct this?? I won't make him stay outside, he's still small enough for an owl to take, and with the horses behind my house I am afraid he could get injured or killed by hooves, and Lilly cries for him if he is out and she isn't (and vice versa). Help!!! :( > For the last few days Billy has been peeing all over the house. I > have no idea why. It's not tomcat territorial marking - he isn't old > enough for that, and he tries to bury it every time, too. They don't > try to bury that kind of pee. Trip to the vet. Could be a urinary infection. Jill >For the last few days Billy has been peeing all over the house. I have no >idea why. It's not tomcat territorial marking - he isn't old enough for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Help!!! :( Pat, it's a urinary tract infection. I'd bet anything. It also could have been smoldering for a while, since he had fever the other day. (just like humans do). Our stray last year Jacky did that. IIRC he got an injection and a regime of antibiotic pills. He never did it again. I was surprised at the time, because he was a young cat, maybe 6 months or so. They have pain with elimination, so they start to pee elsewhere because they associate the pain with the litterbox and try to avoid it by peeing somewhere else. The really frustrating part for you is that if it goes too long, the peeing becomes a habit, and odor attracts other cats to pee there. Hope this helps. BTW, Jackie also had fever with the UTI. Sherry > Pat, it's a urinary tract infection. I'd bet anything. It also could have been > smoldering for a while, since he had fever the other day. (just like humans [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > BTW, Jackie also had fever with the UTI. > Sherry Eli did the same thing when he was young, but I never suspected he might have an infection. He only did it a few times. Abelard also went through a phase of peeing outside the box recently, without a fever. I don't think infection is behind all of these incidences, I think it's something else. Probably anger at me for being a terrible housekeeper. But there isn't any odor left to attract others to pee in the same spots, as they are doing it in "impermanent" places like piles of unwashed laundry and boxes of trash. Where Eli did it once on the carpet nobody else has peed since. >> Pat, it's a urinary tract infection. I'd bet anything. It also could have > been [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > in "impermanent" places like piles of unwashed laundry and boxes of trash. > Where Eli did it once on the carpet nobody else has peed since. But really, I bet Billy's IS an infection. Some inexpensive antibiotics should help. > I don't think infection is behind all of these incidences, I think > it's something else. Probably anger at me for being a terrible > housekeeper. But there isn't any odor left to attract others to pee > in the same spots No odor that *you* can smell, but I'm quite sure your other cats can! It would be good to check out whether he has an infection. If he doesn't, you haven't lost much. But if he does and you don't get it treated, it will become a big problem. Joyce > No odor that *you* can smell, but I'm quite sure your other cats can! No, the carpet it happened on was discarded, and the floor area is now under a big item that cats can't get under. > It would be good to check out whether he has an infection. If he doesn't, > you haven't lost much. But if he does and you don't get it treated, it > will become a big problem. I think if it was an infection he would be peeing smaller amounts. Every time I've had a bladder infection it's caused frequent urination in small amounts. He is making huge puddles. And the way he looks at me when I catch him in the act, it's not a guilty or remorseful or even fearful look, it's snide.... like he's saying "If you're going to keep the house messy, let me help, you lousy &*@$%#!" > > No odor that *you* can smell, but I'm quite sure your other cats can! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > snide.... like he's saying "If you're going to keep the house messy, let me > help, you lousy &*@$%#!" I don't agree. I think it's different in cats. I think it hurts them when they pee and they begin to associate the box with the pain and so they start to pee elsewhere. But they know they shouldn't be peeing elsewhere and they get scared. I think you should *definitely* have him checked out by the vet. Better safe than sorry! -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > it hurts them when they pee and they begin to associate > the box with the pain and so they start > to pee elsewhere. He's using the box most of the time, this is just an occasional thing - like once every other day or so. > He's using the box most of the time, this is just an occasional thing - like > once every other day or so. Isn't it better to be safe than sorry? After TED checks him out and gives him a clean bill of health, you can pick up some Felaway, or other anti-urinator. Bach's rescue remedy is supposed to work well, but we use a couple of Felaway diffusers with our seven. It cuts down a lot on the grief. If taking Billy to TED is a monetary problem, I'm sure some of the group would be willing to help donate to get him taken care of. Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled > Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled You guys still haven't heard!??!! That's awful. Purrs that you get the OK and the benefits start soon. Hugs, CatNipped >> Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled > >You guys still haven't heard!??!! That's awful. Purrs that you get the OK >and the benefits start soon. I'm almost tempted at times to think that there a conspiracy to deny deserving people benefits - but then I realize they're not that smart - it's just big bureaucracy at work. Look how long it takes for the Veterans Administration to recognize some legimate claims - I can't even begin to guess how many vets are just now getting Agent Orange disibilities recognized from Vietnam.  SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >>> Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >even begin to guess how many vets are just now getting Agent Orange >disibilities recognized from Vietnam. I really do think that they make these application processes so difficult and confusing that they hope people will just go away. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ >>> Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >even begin to guess how many vets are just now getting Agent Orange >disibilities recognized from Vietnam. They're imitating the Social Security Admin. I've known people who had to Appeal three times over the course of years. Veterans deserve a lot better than they get. Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel. |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") >>Pam S. waiting to find out if the US government thinks Rob is disabled > > You guys still haven't heard!??!! That's awful. Purrs that you get the OK > and the benefits start soon. We'll find out if he's permanently disabled according to the VA within the next year. We're supposed to hear back about SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) within the next six months. They say that it depends on what a board of review says after reviewing all of Rob's medical records. We had to produce addresses for them from every Dr. that Rob has seen in the last twenty years. Hint to others in USA, don't ever toss away any addresses of places a member of your family has been seen medically. Especially if the condition may be potentially disabling. We had to go digging for some of Rob's addresses, and he was seen in the military for the last twenty years. Pam S. tired > We'll find out if he's permanently disabled according to the VA within the > next year. !!!!! > We're supposed to hear back about SSDI (Social Security Disability > Insurance) within the next six months. !!!!!!!!!! > They say that it depends on what a board of review says after reviewing > all of Rob's medical records. We had to produce addresses for them from [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pam S. tired Unbelievable! And how are you guys supposed to live until the benefits kick in??? In six months you could lose your house and in a year you could be living under a bridge! and the process is totally rediculous. As long as your latest doctor says that you are disabled, what does it matter what previous doctors have said??? Hugs, CatNipped <--- shaking her head at the idiocy of beurocracy. Obviously I didn't have my spell checker turned on for this one - oh the joys of dyslexia!! ;> Hugs, CatNipped >> We'll find out if he's permanently disabled according to the VA within >> the next year. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > CatNipped <--- shaking her head at the idiocy of beurocracy. > > We'll find out if he's permanently disabled according to the VA within the > > next year. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > in??? In six months you could lose your house and in a year you could be > living under a bridge! It took "only" 18 months for my disability to be approved. I spent a good bit of that time living in a tent on a cattle ranch, with I-can't-remember-how-many cats (at least 7). > Unbelievable! And how are you guys supposed to live until the benefits kick > in??? In six months you could lose your house and in a year you could be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CatNipped <--- shaking her head at the idiocy of beurocracy. Oh dear, didn't mean to imply that we have no income. We receive Rob's temporary disability at 100% and what I earn toiling in the hallowed halls of, oh whatever, working as a substitute. It isn't much, but is better than not helping with the finances at all. between the two checks, we generally make ends meet. However, we're making ends meet on about $2,000/month less than we did before Rob retired from the military. That's why we are gritting our teeth and applying for the disability. It's embarrassing, but we need the income. Right now we fall in one of those cracks that the media claim to feel sympathy for. Not enough income to do well, but too much for most assistance programs. God forbid we should ever have to pay all the medical and college bills. I have nightmares about these things. Pam S. sorry for the confusion SNIP > If taking Billy to TED is a monetary problem, I'm sure some of the group > would be willing to help donate to get him taken care of. Pam, I live on a farm with 16 horses, 4 dogs and 8 cats, and most of them hardly ever see TED. Spaying, neutering, gelding, drawing blood for tests - these are things non-vets can't do, but we manage just about everything else. There hasn't been a vet here for a foaling yet. That's almost 40 foals, all born healthy and without a problem. With 6 cats, if I ran to TED every time one of them sneezed, cat care would occupy a *huge* amount of my time. Not to mention the expense! Yes, it's a money issue, but so is everything else when you live on >$700/month. Billy is fine, but if folks want to help with TED bills I'd much prefer to allocate a fund for Baby Eyes' skin problem, which is ongoing. > SNIP > > If taking Billy to TED is a monetary problem, I'm sure some of the group [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > is fine, but if folks want to help with TED bills I'd much prefer to > allocate a fund for Baby Eyes' skin problem, which is ongoing. The thing about Billy is that urinary problems can be very damaging and if some antibiotics would clear it up, wouldn't you want to do that? > The thing about Billy is that urinary problems can be very damaging and if > some antibiotics would clear it up, wouldn't you want to do that? Billy doesn't have a "urinary problem", and he is not sick. He made a few mistakes, that's all! Now I am sorry I ever mentioned it on the list. I experienced the problem of Marietta suddenly peeing around the house as well as the litterbox about 2 weeks ago. I had thought it could be a UTI as well. Her vet diagnosed her with lower back pain! (As a matter of fact we had just been playing VERY hard with a new fishingpole toy a couple days before the inappropriate peeing started). She had apparently torqued her back when leaping and catching her rear claws in the carpeting. The peeing was her way of telling me that was in pain. A little kitty orthopedic manipulation by my vet and she now "good as new." Just goes to show you that the peeing could be caused by just about anything, be it infection, environmental stress, etc., etc. Gennie > > it hurts them when they pee and they begin to associate > > the box with the pain and so they start > > to pee elsewhere. > > He's using the box most of the time, this is just an occasional thing - like > once every other day or so. |
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