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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2004Recipes: Cat variety
Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? Cali's been through another bout of bunguppedness. So I'd like to break her of her preference for dry food. She does not get enough water and is getting porkier by the day. The vet pushes the A/D, but she hates it. About the only meat she likes is FF or deli beef/ham. How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of salt and ground catnip? Perhaps some boiled ham hocks? She hates poultry, so no chicken recipes please. TIA >How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of salt >and ground catnip? Perhaps some boiled ham hocks? She hates poultry, so no >chicken recipes please. > >TIA I don't see anything wrong with the hamburger, but I wouldn't add anything to it. Ham hock would be bad, because of the salt content and overall I hear pork just isn't good for cats. People food dishes are fine for a treat; I broil chicken breast all the time for mine. But really, unless you're well-versed in cat nutrition and know which additives they need in their diet, it's best to stay with commercial cat food. Some people actually do the homemade thing, but it's expensive, a whole lot of work, and a whole lot of research goes into it. Sherry >> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of salt >> and ground catnip? Perhaps some boiled ham hocks? She hates poultry, so no [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Sherry Can you try her with beef baby food? If she liked it,, you could mix it in with real catfood (canned). Or check your local health stores for Petguard Premium Feast which is largely beef and my cats who are very picky quite like it. > >> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of salt > >> and ground catnip? Perhaps some boiled ham hocks? She hates poultry, so no [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > Sherry Cali doesn't much like people food at all, Pork is her one exception, especially Bacon. Smokey on the other hand is a constant moocher. She had grilled Salmon, Kraft Dinner (taste) and Cookies and Cream (taste) for dinner + her usual feast of cat food. I found the holistic cat site and they had some simple recipes including cat vitamins. > Can you try her with beef baby food? If she liked it,, you could mix it in > with real catfood (canned). Or check your local health stores for Petguard > Premium Feast which is largely beef and my cats who are very picky quite > like it. I think we tried her with baby food once before, but I'm not certain. I was going to try mixing some with her dry again. She checked out OK, at the vet (a little dehrydrated), although she's supposed to stay on the lactulose for a few days. She's definately not herself. >>>> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of > salt [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > (a little dehrydrated), although she's supposed to stay on the lactulose for > a few days. She's definately not herself. Put water bowls in every room. It really should help. Areas that she traffics. > >>>> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit of > > salt [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Put water bowls in every room. It really should help. Areas that she > traffics. LOL. That would be the bed, which is part of her problem. >>>>>> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit > of [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > LOL. That would be the bed, which is part of her problem. Well, exercise does indeed help with irregularity. Does she like to play? > >>>>>> How does cooked hamburger go over with the kitties, maybe with a bit > > of [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > > Well, exercise does indeed help with irregularity. Does she like to play? Not any more. She would play when she was younger, but she has lost interest. Been there, done that. We got the younger cat to get her moving, but that has not worked out as well as we had hoped. Years ago, when I had my ever-finicky T'Chan, I did two things that he really liked. One was liver -- I chopped it up really fine, then poured boiling water over it -- and immediately poured it off. Seemed to enhance the odor in some way. You can add great things to make it look better -- chopped onion, catnip, whatever -- but I think these additions would be for us, not the cat. T'Chan always liked it plain. The other was this "custardy" type thing. I would mix a spoonful of cottage cheese with an egg yolk -- and again the ever-present boiling water, poured off after it "cooked" the yolk slightly -- maybe a few drops of canned milk, which he loved. This was 20-years ago and research may have indicated that this might not be ideal for cats -- but again,T'Chan loved it! Renee in CA USA Peace. And blessings to you! In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", Sep 2004: > Years ago, when I had my ever-finicky T'Chan, I did two things > that he really liked. One was liver -- I chopped it up [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > chopped onion, catnip, whatever -- but I think these additions > would be for us, not the cat. Shamrock likes liver, too. I give it to him raw about once a week for a treat. I just wanted to comment about onions, though, onions are toxic to cats and shouldn't be consumed at all.  SignatureCheryl (snippage) But really, unless you're well-versed in > cat nutrition and know which additives they need in their diet, it's best to > stay with commercial cat food. Some people actually do the homemade thing, but > it's expensive, a whole lot of work, and a whole lot of research goes into it. > > Sherry It does seem to be awfully complicated. IIRC, Jen feeds her Kid a homemade diet, and she'd done a *huge* amount of research beforehand, though Jen's waaay too busy to post much any more. ------ Krista > (snippage) > But really, unless you're well-versed in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > homemade diet, and she'd done a *huge* amount of research beforehand, > though Jen's waaay too busy to post much any more. Because it takes so much time to prepare the cat food? ;-) > ------ > Krista > Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > > Cali's been through another bout of bunguppedness. So I'd like to > break her of her preference for dry food. She does not get enough > water and is getting porkier by the day. The vet pushes the A/D, but > she hates it. About the only meat she likes is FF or deli beef/ham. You might ask your vet about sprinkling something called Barley Cat on her food to make her eat what the vet recommends. It's a powder made from (duh) barley and Persia adores it. Got me through many a time when she didn't want to eat what they insisted she did. Good for the coat, too. Jill I tried that Barley cat, and Weeble doesn't care too much for it. Spoiled brat ;) Same with Lizzie. Anything new they don't like. Maybe I should put it on Tennessee's & Smokey's food - those two are vacuums ;) SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >> Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jill > I tried that Barley cat, and Weeble doesn't care too much for it. Spoiled > brat ;) Same with Lizzie. Anything new they don't like. Maybe I should > put it on Tennessee's & Smokey's food - those two are vacuums ;) Cali likes new food, as long as it's crunchy. In fact she won't eat the same food for more than a few days in a row. Smokey on the other hand likes that damn Whiskas and we can't get her off it. She use to hoover the stuff by the bag when she was about a year. But she eat's lots of healthy meat, so it's not so bad. > >> Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Jill > I tried that Barley cat, and Weeble doesn't care too much for it. > Spoiled brat ;) Same with Lizzie. Anything new they don't like. > Maybe I should put it on Tennessee's & Smokey's food - those two are > vacuums ;) Persia is not about to start trying to "change" Weeble. But she says to tell him she loves Barley Cat. Of course, she also adores that Purina x/d food the vet said she needs to eat. I don't have much call to sprinkle Barley Cat these days. It's just an occasional treat. Of course, she *would* adore that food; it's $12 for a 4 pound bag of the dry and $22 for a case of the wet. And you should *see* her scarf down a can of that stuff! Not very ladylike, I'm afraid. Tell Weebles he's got a high maintenance girlfriend ;) Jill >>> Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Jill > Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and ground catnip? Perhaps some boiled ham hocks? She hates poultry, so no > chicken recipes please. A friend of mine feeds hers a bit of raw liver, several times a week, and used to make a stew for them with the cheaper cuts of meat done overnight in her slow-cooker. BTW, I don't think salt is all that good for cats, that's why you should never feed them "cured" meat like ham (except a tid-bit or two, as a treat) - it can cause intestinal inflamations. Commercial cat food contains very little salt - ever tasted it? > > Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > inflamations. Commercial cat food contains very little salt - ever > tasted it? I noticed the holistic cat site had a liver and rice formula and they used Potassium Chloride (salt substitute). >>>Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > I noticed the holistic cat site had a liver and rice formula and they used > Potassium Chloride (salt substitute). My guess would be for the potassium, not the "saltiness", but I'm not a cat dietician. Also, you have to be a bit cautious about "fad" diets for pets. I've even seen canned "vegetarian" cat food in health food stores, but however good vegetarianism may be for some humans, cats are CARNIVORES! Their digestive systems are not designed for a vegetarian diet. People who can't live with that fact shouldn't have cats! > Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? If you want to feed your cat fresh meat, please don't cook it or prepare it in any way. Cooking it destroys the taurine, which is essential for cats (we hoomins and e.g. dogs produce it our/themselves). I feed my cats raw meat about every second day, and every second day I give them canned food. Liver and heart are usually very popular with the cats. The main thing they need in addition, if you only feed them meat, is calcium. Crush an egg shell and mix into some hamburger meat. No spices needed. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > > Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in addition, if you only feed them meat, is calcium. Crush an egg shell and > mix into some hamburger meat. No spices needed. What about e-coli (hamburger) and salmonella (poultry) in raw meat? > What about e-coli (hamburger) and salmonella (poultry) in raw meat? Well, yes, getting clean meat can be hard in some parts of the world. If you can't be sure about the condition of the meat, better not feed it to the cats raw. But if you plan on feeding them only cooked meat, they will have to have some sort of supplement of taurine. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > > What about e-coli (hamburger) and salmonella (poultry) in raw meat? > > Well, yes, getting clean meat can be hard in some parts of the world. If you > can't be sure about the condition of the meat, better not feed it to the > cats raw. But if you plan on feeding them only cooked meat, they will have > to have some sort of supplement of taurine. Thanks Marina, I wasn't going to feed her 'natural food' exclusively, just as a supplement to keep her regular. The liver seems to be a popular choice, I'll have to try it. Although we bought her some pate once before to hide her meds, but she would have no part of it. As for the bacteria, I wasn't sure if cats were affected the same way as humans. I know when I was a kid, our cats and dogs occasionally got the meat that was starting to turn. They did not seem to care and it did not adversely affect them. > As for the bacteria, I wasn't sure if cats were affected the same way as > humans. I know when I was a kid, our cats and dogs occasionally got the meat > that was starting to turn. They did not seem to care and it did not > adversely affect them. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that cats' digestive systems are so much shorter than eg humans' (and other omnivores'), that bacteria don't have time to 'take' in the short time it takes for them to travel through it, but this is just something I picked up somewhere. You could ask a vet whether this is true. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki >> As for the bacteria, I wasn't sure if cats were affected the same way as >> humans. I know when I was a kid, our cats and dogs occasionally got the >> meat that was starting to turn. They did not seem to care and it did not >> adversely affect them. > I vaguely remember reading somewhere that cats' digestive systems are so > much shorter than eg humans' (and other omnivores'), that bacteria don't > have time to 'take' in the short time it takes for them to travel through > it, but this is just something I picked up somewhere. You could ask a vet > whether this is true. I've heard both sides of this. Lots of people feed their cats the raw meat diet, with no bad effects. But then, those of you who've been here a while might remember that Reggie's Hale-Bopp got salmonella poisoning and almost died from it. She thought he might have gotten it from eating a raw egg. So I don't know what to think. I feed my cats canned food, to be safe! Joyce > I've heard both sides of this. Lots of people feed their cats the raw > meat diet, with no bad effects. But then, those of you who've been here a > while might remember that Reggie's Hale-Bopp got salmonella poisoning and > almost died from it. She thought he might have gotten it from eating a raw > egg. So I don't know what to think. I feed my cats canned food, to be safe! You're not supposed to feed a cat raw egg, at least not raw egg white. It contains something that is destructive to taurine, I think. I seem to remember it being OK to feed a kitty raw egg yolk tho. Dang, I couldn't find anything to substantiate this tho, at least not quickly... SignatureChristine in Vantaa, Finland christal63 (at) yahoo (dot) com photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/christal63 > I wasn't going to feed her 'natural food' exclusively, just as a supplement > to keep her regular. The liver seems to be a popular choice, I'll have to > try it. Although we bought her some pate once before to hide her meds, but > she would have no part of it. If you're talking about "paté" made for humans, that's understandable - most cats don't much care for all the seasonings used to disguise the "pure" liver taste. > > I wasn't going to feed her 'natural food' exclusively, just as a supplement > > to keep her regular. The liver seems to be a popular choice, I'll have to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > most cats don't much care for all the seasonings used to disguise the > "pure" liver taste. Our friend, who has Cali's buddy from her rescue days has to take several meds. She's had great success hiding her meds in pate, but it's straight from the butcher, so it may have fewer additives/seasonings. >>>Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > What about e-coli (hamburger) and salmonella (poultry) in raw meat? Cats are not humans. They are seldom subject to human diseases. Although cats can be poisoned, I've never heard of one having "food poisoning", has anyone else here? (They're too smart to eat anything really "spoiled" because it won't smell right.) IMO, the reason humans seem to be so much more susceptible to things like e-coli and salmonella than they were when I was young is due to our dependence on anti-biotics to treat even the most minor of illnesses. Our immune systems don't get a chance to develop, when we knock everything out before our bodies have a chance to begin developing immunity to minor, forever-with-us ills. (And we're beginning to pay the price, as more and more diseases become resistant to anti-biotics.) >>Does anyone have any simple, tasty recipes for a corpulent kitty? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in addition, if you only feed them meat, is calcium. Crush an egg shell and > mix into some hamburger meat. No spices needed. Spices are a human "refinement". Cats are hunters, and I've never noticed one "seasoning" a mouse or bird before consuming it, have you? |
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