As I reported this past week, Stinky has been on a veritable killing
spree, the likes of which he has never experenced before. It's like
he's having a late awakening of his hunting instincts, and he's making
the most of it.
Despite being 14 years old-- he is a very inexperienced hunter-- and
he seemed to make no connection between *catching mice* and *eating*
them.
For the most part, his procedure was:
1) Catch a mouse;
2)Run or walk around rather bewilderedly with the live little thing
wiggling around in his mouth, saying "RRRRRRRR??? RRRRRRRR???";
3) Put the mouse down, and watch it run away again;
4) Flip it in the air with his paw;
5) Pounce and repeat from #1, infinite times, or until the mousie
stops moving, and is no fun anymore;
6) Bring it to Mommy with a pleading look, or put it in Mommy's shoe,
or:
7) Lie down near the little body and go to sleep. Mommy hustles the
evidence out of the house, with many grimaces and groans.
But now I have it on good authority that the little goofball has moved
a step up in the kitty hunting brotherhood. He has actually ingested
a mousie. I did not see him do it. So how do I know?
Because of the little partly-digested, black, slimy revolting mess I
just avoided stepping into this morning. I could not imagine what it
could be, and had visions of some hideous digestive ailment that was
carrying my little buddy off before my unknowing eyes.
As disgusting as it was, I took a closer look at it, to determine if I
wanted to pack it up (eeeerrrrrrkk!) and take it to the vet, and I saw
the tiny, undigested feet and tail.
I was amazed that my little fella had finally made the leap. But he
clearly had urked the prize up again. What can I say?
BTW, catslaves who are more experinced with mousers: It is OK for
them to eat the mousies (presumably not to urk them up again)? Are
you concerned about parasites, germs and insecticides that your kitty
could ingest with the critter?
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Sherry - 28 Aug 2004 16:29 GMT
>BTW, catslaves who are more experinced with mousers: It is OK for
>them to eat the mousies (presumably not to urk them up again)? Are
>you concerned about parasites, germs and insecticides that your kitty
>could ingest with the critter?
Well, gee. Nutritionally, yeah, it's perfectly okay for them to eat mousies.
But yeah, I am concerned about parasites and disease. I hate it. Especailly the
way Bootsie leaves the butt with tail attached on the front step. I can't
figure out if it's the best part and she's saved it for me as a gift, or she
doesn't like mouse butt/tail. I worm Bootsie a couple times a year at least.
The others don't hunt.
We have lots of hunters on the group. Maybe someone else could pass along
stories about whether or not their kitty actually ever got sick from eating
mousie. I don't worry so much about mousies, as much as I do rats and gophers.
They're big enough to bite her and for some reason just seem nastier.
Stink-Man sure is frisky for his age. He must be in excellent health. Yoda is
younger than him, but acts very much like an old cat. I wonder why.
Sherry
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 28 Aug 2004 22:53 GMT
(snip)
>We have lots of hunters on the group. Maybe someone else could pass along
>stories about whether or not their kitty actually ever got sick from eating
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>
>Sherry
Dear Sherry,
I am so sorry to hear that Yoda is not so perky-- he is one of my
favorite rcpa cats (not to play favorites ;)). I think cats must be
widely different at the rates that they age. Stinky must have some
damn good genes, but I am still very vigilant. 14 is the age when I
lost little Mimi to renal failure, and I still wonder if I missed
something I should have caught. But Mimi was perceptibly slowing down
a bit at 14-- she just ran around the house and terrorized us somewhat
more stiffly than in the past. Stinky (knock wood) doesn't seem an
awful lot different than he was at 10-- or 8-- or 6. I was pretty
impressed at his reflexes. He goes for his annual TED checkup this
coming month.
Theresa
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Debbie Wilson - 29 Aug 2004 09:04 GMT
> We have lots of hunters on the group. Maybe someone else could pass along
> stories about whether or not their kitty actually ever got sick from eating
> mousie.
Merlin regularly brings in mice, and occasionally a vole or shrew. He
always eats them (not the shrews though) and leaves just the tail and
stomach - yuk!! The only things I would worry about here would be if
the mice had eaten poison - unlikely as he gets them from the local
nature reserve - and worms, so all my 4 get wormed 2-3 times a year.
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Bill Stock - 28 Aug 2004 17:02 GMT
> As I reported this past week, Stinky has been on a veritable killing
> spree, the likes of which he has never experenced before. It's like
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> 7) Lie down near the little body and go to sleep. Mommy hustles the
> evidence out of the house, with many grimaces and groans.
This is pretty much the routine with Cali, who is an avid hunter. It's the
thrill of the hunt, more than the food. She will stay awake for days when
there's a mouse to be had.
> But now I have it on good authority that the little goofball has moved
> a step up in the kitty hunting brotherhood. He has actually ingested
> a mousie. I did not see him do it. So how do I know?
Cali rarely eats them, she's only done it a few times. The first time she
hacked it up on the kitchen floor. Seemed to cure her hairball problem for a
while though. Other times I'll find the rear axle (feet and tail) of the
mouse and one just the head.
> Because of the little partly-digested, black, slimy revolting mess I
> just avoided stepping into this morning. I could not imagine what it
> could be, and had visions of some hideous digestive ailment that was
> carrying my little buddy off before my unknowing eyes.
One morning I got up to go to the Loo and saw a toy on the mat beside the
bed, so I picked it up to see which toy Smokey had brought me now. Well it
was not a mousey toy, Smokey had brought me Cali's well chewed prize. I
don't pick up cat toys in the dark without my glasses anymore.
> As disgusting as it was, I took a closer look at it, to determine if I
> wanted to pack it up (eeeerrrrrrkk!) and take it to the vet, and I saw
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> you concerned about parasites, germs and insecticides that your kitty
> could ingest with the critter?
The vet said they are the primary source of worms.
> Theresa
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Marina - 28 Aug 2004 17:11 GMT
"Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote
<snip of hunting prowess>
> BTW, catslaves who are more experinced with mousers: It is OK for
> them to eat the mousies (presumably not to urk them up again)? Are
> you concerned about parasites, germs and insecticides that your kitty
> could ingest with the critter?
Well, Nikki has been eating voles for her whole life, she is now 16 and
still going strong. She's never even had worms, but I do deworm her every
year after our stay on the island. I don't have to worry about insecticides
on the island, because we don't use any though we grow some vegetables
there.
Maybe Stinky was just overwhelmed with all the 'roughage' in a mouse, if
this was the first one he's ever eaten. As Sherry said, mice are
nutritionally perfect for cats, since that is what they're supposed to eat,
of course. But maybe it's not so easy for a cat who has lived the easy life
and had all his meals from a can or bag.

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Karen Chuplis - 28 Aug 2004 17:43 GMT
> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote
> <snip of hunting prowess>
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> on the island, because we don't use any though we grow some vegetables
> there.
We had a hunter par excellence when I was growing up. She had the best teeth
of everyone. She also stayed very strong. I attributed it to the many mousie
bones she probably ate. Could have been genetic too. Hard to say. I don't
think it is necessarily uncommon for cats to throw up what they have eaten
in the wild. Nature's way of getting rid of the bits that don't help the
system.
Adrian - 28 Aug 2004 19:29 GMT
> As I reported this past week, Stinky has been on a veritable killing
> spree, the likes of which he has never experenced before. It's like
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> he seemed to make no connection between *catching mice* and *eating*
> them.
I think it would be a good idea to have Stinky checked by the vet. Rosie
(RB) started catching a lot of birds before she died. The vet said she
may have been diabetic, apparently this can make them feel very hungry.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Aug 2004 21:34 GMT
> I think it would be a good idea to have Stinky checked by the vet. Rosie
> (RB) started catching a lot of birds before she died. The vet said she
> may have been diabetic, apparently this can make them feel very hungry.
On the other hand, they may just fancy a little fresh meat! Cats are,
after all, hunters (and have not been domesticated nearly so long as
dogs have).
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Aug 2004 21:07 GMT
> BTW, catslaves who are more experinced with mousers: It is OK for
> them to eat the mousies (presumably not to urk them up again)? Are
> you concerned about parasites, germs and insecticides that your kitty
> could ingest with the critter?
Well, when mine were indoor-outdoor, they survived any number of mice,
tree rats, lizards, and whatever, with no apparent ill-effects! Patches
was on his own for about three years before I realized he was homeless
(he was wearing a flea collar, when he first appeared, and was always on
the somewhat obese side, until the assurance of regular meals persuaded
him to stop eating everything in sight.)
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Christina Websell - 28 Aug 2004 23:40 GMT
My cats are both hunters, but I'm not sure I can help you if you're not in
the UK. Things will be different, parasites especially, if you are in
another country.
No, I don't worry that they catch and eat them. I think it's a good thing,
but I make sure they are wormed regularly. Apart from the worm thing, saves
me a bit on food;-)
Cats *should* eat mice.
Oh, while I think about it, shrews will make them vomit. You said the
mousie was black. Shrews are black.
When Boyfriend was learning to hunt, I saw him heaving his heart up in the
garden. Shrew. Not too clever of him but he was a learner at the time and
has never touched one since.
Tweed
> As I reported this past week, Stinky has been on a veritable killing
> spree, the likes of which he has never experenced before. It's like
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