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Tanada - 19 Aug 2004 03:20 GMT
We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
back.  However, they're having Rob's MRI films reviewed by a group of
specialists this afternoon, and we'll find out what they say tomorrow.

If they agree with Dr Ewend, Rob will be put back on a course of Temodar
for as long as he can tolerate it, up to 12 months, just to make sure
the stuff is good and dead.  If they decide that it is warranted, a
biopsy will be done to see if it is the same type of tumor as before,
and chemo will be decided on based on the biopsy.  Either way, it looks
a lot better than we were afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good
thoughts, and blessings have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
Jeanne Hedge - 19 Aug 2004 03:40 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

Oh that *is* good news!  Continued purrs for the best possible
outcome!

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

============
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badwilson - 19 Aug 2004 04:15 GMT
Yay!  HapPy DaNCe :-)  Purrs continuing for everything to turn out fine.
--
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in fur!
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> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
Charleen Welton - 19 Aug 2004 16:27 GMT
Purrs and Prayers that the news continues to be good and then better and
then the best!!!

Charleen,
Mr. Pumpkin,
Aggie Marble,
Victor Velcro
CATherine - 19 Aug 2004 04:20 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

It is good to hear some positive news. Many, many purrs and prayers
for Rob to beat Old Man Cancer for good.

--
CATherine
Karen Chuplis - 19 Aug 2004 04:25 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

That is great news. I will send extra purrs that they are right and it is
gone.
SUQKRT - 19 Aug 2004 18:32 GMT
>in article P7UUc.2231$2L3.822@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net, Tanada
>at
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>is
>gone.

Sounds good, but we'll keep purring.
Suz
Macmoosette
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Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

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Steve Touchstone - 19 Aug 2004 04:26 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>a lot better than we were afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good
>thoughts, and blessings have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

Sending some extra strong meatloaf purrs that the specialists agree
with Dr Ewend.
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Marina - 19 Aug 2004 04:37 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a lot better than we were afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good
> thoughts, and blessings have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

That does sound hopeful We are still purring.

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Sam Nash - 19 Aug 2004 04:44 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
Purrs and prayers continuing for a good outcome.
Sam
Jo Firey - 19 Aug 2004 05:11 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

I'm guessing at this point pretty much anything would be so much better than
you were afraid of.

I hope and pray and purr that Dr Ewend is right.  Sometimes the good guys do
win.

Jo
O J - 19 Aug 2004 05:28 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
>back
---------------------<snip>----------------------

That *is* good news.  Thanks for sharing it with us.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
LOL - 19 Aug 2004 07:23 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

That does sound like good news, Pam!  I'm so glad.  We are sending our
best purrs that the outlook continues to be better than you expect.

------
Krista
Yoj - 19 Aug 2004 07:59 GMT
OT, okay.  Long, somewhat.  Boring?  Definitely not!  It sounds like
wonderful news, and we'll keep the prayers and purrs coming to keep it
that way!

--
Joy
Owned and operated by Lindy and Skeeter

> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
Jeanette - 19 Aug 2004 09:02 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

That's excellent news Pam, I'm so pleased for you all.

Jeanette
Victor Martinez - 19 Aug 2004 13:36 GMT
> and chemo will be decided on based on the biopsy.  Either way, it looks
> a lot better than we were afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good
> thoughts, and blessings have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

I'm very glad to hear this.

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Nan - 19 Aug 2004 13:42 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

That is good news!!  We're still sending purrs and prayers that Dr.
Ewend is right about the tumor.

--

Nan

A wise man talks because he has something to say;
a fool talks because he has to say something.
Christine Burel - 19 Aug 2004 14:13 GMT
Hugs, Pam, I'm really so glad to hear the good news!!!!Been thinking of
ya'll -- purrs and purrayers still a'comin' -- give all your family our
best!
Christine
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
JBHajos - 19 Aug 2004 15:28 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
>back.  

 So glad to hear this optimistic report!!  Purrs and fingers crossed
that more good news is on the way.  

 We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
everything seemed A-OK.  Now that it's back, the doctor says his body
can't take radiation any more and he'll have chemo this time instead.
So we understand full well the ordeal and anxiety you and Rob have
been through.  We'll be thinking of you all.

  Jeanne
Charleen Welton - 19 Aug 2004 16:19 GMT
> >We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> >today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>    Jeannne

Jeanne,

Our thoughts, prayers and purrs are with your brother and your family as
well.

Charleen
Steve Touchstone - 19 Aug 2004 18:45 GMT
<snip>
>  We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
>returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>   Jeanne
Purrs for your brother (and the whole family) to beat the big C this
time around.
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Howard Berkowitz - 19 Aug 2004 21:56 GMT
> >We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> >today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So we understand full well the ordeal and anxiety you and Rob have
> been through.  We'll be thinking of you all.

I don't know how much experience you have had with chemo, but it's
important to realize that many people think it always has horrible side
effects. Yes, some forms do, but there are constantly less toxic
chemotherapeutic agents, as well as ways to manage the side effects.  
Every case is different.

To put it somewhat in context, when Clifford (RB) was suddenly diagnosed
with advanced bladder cancer, noticeable mostly that his kitten-like
activity level had fallen off from his 17th birthday some months prior,
I discussed alternatives with several veterinary oncologiets.  When they
told me that the most effective chemotherapeutic agent for cats was
cisplatin with radiation, I almost gave up on the spot, because
cisplatin has a pretty bad side effect profile in humans. They quickly
reassured me that cats tolerated it far better than humans.

He was not strong enough to go directly to that therapy, so we started
him on measures that both can shrink the tumor, conincidentally
controlling discomfort: piroxicam and prednisone.  Things improved for a
short number of weeks, but then things relapsed. Still, given his
overall great health, I felt it was a reasonable strategy.  The end was
very sudden.
Tanada - 19 Aug 2004 22:08 GMT
>   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
> everything seemed A-OK.  Now that it's back, the doctor says his body
> can't take radiation any more and he'll have chemo this time instead.
> So we understand full well the ordeal and anxiety you and Rob have
> been through.  We'll be thinking of you all.

Purrs and healthy thoughts and wishes for your brother.
Alt.support.cancer is really good about both information and support for
those with cancer and their families.  That group is almost as important
for me to follow as this one.

Pam S. grateful for all the support and friends here in RPCA
polonca12000 - 19 Aug 2004 22:11 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for your brother, Jeanne, and hugs for his
worried family,
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<snip>
>   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>    Jeanne
Julie Snowshoe - 19 Aug 2004 22:29 GMT
>  We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
>returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>   Jeanne
>  

Jeanne,

Hobbes and the girls will send purrs for your brother and I shall light
a healing candle.  Positive thoughts and gentle hugs to all of your
family that your brother does well with the chemo with little side effect.

Julie, Hobbes, Selena and Lacey
Cheryl - 20 Aug 2004 00:37 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes",
2004:

>   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has
>   definitely
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> time instead. So we understand full well the ordeal and anxiety
> you and Rob have been through.  We'll be thinking of you all.

Jeanne, purrs being sent out for your brother. Sometimes it just
takes a while and while cancer can be so aggressive, the treatments
these days are just as much so and stories are being told more and
more of those beating it. Our thoughts are also with you and your
family.

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Cheryl

Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 00:49 GMT
> In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes",
> 2004:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> more of those beating it. Our thoughts are also with you and your
> family.

Ours too.  C  is the pits, but it *can* be overcome.  Here's hoping for your
brother.

Tweed
Yowie - 20 Aug 2004 01:21 GMT
> >We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> >today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So we understand full well the ordeal and anxiety you and Rob have
> been through.  We'll be thinking of you all.

Purrs to your brother, Jeanette.

Yowie
Marina - 20 Aug 2004 03:59 GMT
>   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
> everything seemed A-OK.  Now that it's back, the doctor says his body
> can't take radiation any more and he'll have chemo this time instead.

I'm very sorry to hear this, Jeanne. Many purrs for your brother, his
treatment, and all of your family.

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Yowie - 23 Aug 2004 04:17 GMT
> >   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> > returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I'm very sorry to hear this, Jeanne. Many purrs for your brother, his
> treatment, and all of your family.

Adding purrs to the chorus.

Yowie
LOL - 20 Aug 2004 08:20 GMT
>   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>    Jeanne

Oh no!  Purrs and prayers are on their way.
------
Krista
Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 19:21 GMT
> >   We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
> > returned.   He went through radiation treatment the first time and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> ------
> Krista

So sad for you Jeanne.  Purrs and prayers from Kitty FC,  BF and me.
It can work.  It *does* work, these purrs and prayers.
Try and keep your brother positive.  Once there was a mistake at my doctor's
and they sent me a letter which seemed to suggest I had cancer.  I can
remember how I felt, absolutely panic-stricken.  The letter arrived on a
Saturday and I couldn't find out anything until Monday.  What a great
weekend I had.
Tell him we are thinking about him and wishing for a good outcome.

Tweed
JBHajos - 24 Aug 2004 14:23 GMT
>  We learned this past weekend that my brother's cancer has definitely
>returned.  

 Why, thank you all for the purrs, prayers, and good thoughts for my
brother.  I really hadn't expected a reply but should have known
better - you're such a kind and caring group.  We truly appreciate
your good wishes and know they're helping.  Many, many thanks.

  Jeanne
Singh - 19 Aug 2004 15:30 GMT
Purrs for recovery, and cheers to Rob for kicking cancer in the a.s!

Baha
Blessed be!

> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven
Ginger-lyn Summer - 19 Aug 2004 19:10 GMT
>We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
>today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

So glad to hear this!  Continued purrs.

Ginger-lyn
Julie Snowshoe - 19 Aug 2004 21:43 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
> back.  However, they're having Rob's MRI films reviewed by a group of
> specialists this afternoon, and we'll find out what they say tomorrow.

This is very encouraging news, Pam! I hope Dr. Ewend is right. I was
wondering how you all were doing and was going to post an inquiry this
afternoon. Hobbes, Selena and Lacey continue to send their finest purrs
in your direction and I'm sending positive thoughts.

Julie, Hobbes, Selena and Lacey
Exocat - 19 Aug 2004 21:55 GMT
This is purrfect news: hope it holds true.

Very best wishes

Gordon & Terrible Trio

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> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
> back.
polonca12000 - 19 Aug 2004 22:08 GMT
Oh wow, that's wonderful! I'm so very happy for you - you really do so
deserve this.
Continued purrs and best wishes for Rob and hugs for the rest of his family,
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Polonca & Soncek

> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
> back.  <snip
Cheryl - 20 Aug 2004 00:33 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", Tanada
<tanada@earthlink.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:P7UUc.2231$2L3.822@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> on 18
Aug 2004:

> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel
> Hill) today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good thoughts, and blessings
> have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

Purrs and good thoughts still coming your way.

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Yowie - 20 Aug 2004 01:20 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a lot better than we were afraid of.  Your purrs, prayers, good
> thoughts, and blessings have struck again.  Thank you everyone.

Lots of Purrs (and kitty snores at the moment), wags, oohs and and aahs, and
prayers for Rob (and hs family of course).

Yowie
Adrian - 20 Aug 2004 12:34 GMT
> We went up to see the Neurosurgeon, Dr Ewend, at UNC (Chapel Hill)
> today, and he said that he doesn't think that Rob's tumor is coming
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven

Good news! Continuing purrs.
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Tanada - 20 Aug 2004 21:01 GMT
UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
get hold of us, and we couldn't get hold of him.

Anyway, the news is the best possible right now.  The specialists
(radiology pathologists specializing in brain tumors) agree with Dr
Ewend that there is no signs that the tumor has grown.  The recommended
course now is to give Rob a course of large doses of temodar (I never
spell this correctly) for a year, as a precaution to make sure the
sucker is dead, nag at Rob to KEEP TAKING HIS MEDS, and keep in eye on
him.  After a year, or as long as he can tolerate the stuff, whichever
comes first, Rob will be taken off the Temodar.  We're still on MRIs
every two to three months, and regular visits with the drs.  I'm
beginning to think I need to cross cross stitch a picture for them.

I think now that the bad temper and inappropriate comments were because
of stress and the steroids.  Rob really doesn't remember saying any of
those shocking comments or blowing up at anyone.  I believe him.  Rob
has always admitted to any thing he's done, so long as he remembers it.

Pam S. really relieved
Nan - 20 Aug 2004 22:04 GMT
>UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
>call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Pam S. really relieved

I'm so glad that the tumor hasn't grown.  Stress relieving and
medication purrs and meatloaf meditations are on the way.  BTW, this
is one time that a nagging wife is called for.  

--

Nan

A wise man talks because he has something to say;
a fool talks because he has to say something.
Christine Burel - 20 Aug 2004 22:17 GMT
well, this just made my Friday, Pam :o). Purrs, always,
Christine

> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved
Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 23:32 GMT
> I think now that the bad temper and inappropriate comments were because
> of stress and the steroids.  Rob really doesn't remember saying any of
> those shocking comments or blowing up at anyone.  I believe him.  Rob
> has always admitted to any thing he's done, so long as he remembers it.

My uncle had a stroke two years ago and is now dysphasic.  My aunt nearly
dies of embarrassment when he sees a big woman in the street, points to her
and says "fat"
It has certainly affected his brain,  but he has become more kind than he
was in that he wants to feed everyone and will invite people in off the
street.
When they are out, if auntie spots anyone of an unusual appearance, she
grips uncle's hand and says  "don't say a word"  and he doesn't.  It's hard
for her as he seems to have lost the ability to decide what is appropriate
to say and what isn't.
It's sad.  He was a bishop.  A lovely man.
He gets so frustrated because he can't say what he wants to.

Tweed
Yoj - 21 Aug 2004 00:11 GMT
Whew!  That's great news!

--
Joy (relieved along with you)

> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved
Yowie - 21 Aug 2004 00:18 GMT
Yay! Glad its good news.

Stress and steroids are *not* a good combination. Steroids can make people
very aggresive and short tempered whilst at the same time leaving htem
feeling very empowered (after a long time of feeling like crap, you suddenly
feel *great*).

Occasionally Ihave to take prednisone because of my asthma, and its like
I've got permanant PMS in mood, but feel like I could take on the world
(which of course makes it worse)

Yowie

> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved
Jeanette - 21 Aug 2004 11:39 GMT
> Yay! Glad its good news.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Yowie

Now that didn't happen to me at all. When I was first diagnosed with asthma,
and was put on a very high steroid dose to allow me to breathe, I felt on
top of the world. I loved everyone, got three times as much work done as
usual, and had a spotless house. I even alphatbetised my books and music. No
aggression or temper.

Jeanette
Susan M - 22 Aug 2004 17:47 GMT
> Yay! Glad its good news.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I've got permanant PMS in mood, but feel like I could take on the world
> (which of course makes it worse)

When Sam was two years old, he had an asthma attack.  The prednisone gave
him severe roid rage that lasted longer than seemed logical.  We had to take
him home from a birthday party because he wacked the host on the head with a
rock.  It was terrible.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Tanada - 22 Aug 2004 18:21 GMT
> When Sam was two years old, he had an asthma attack.  The prednisone gave
> him severe roid rage that lasted longer than seemed logical.  We had to take
> him home from a birthday party because he wacked the host on the head with a
> rock.  It was terrible.

Now, take that and add 40 years to the age level.  No rocks, thank Bast,
but lots of anger.

Pam S. still long suffering <not
Karen Chuplis - 22 Aug 2004 23:04 GMT
>> Yay! Glad its good news.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

No personal experience, but it was my observation watching my nephews grow
up that medications really affect young ones strangely and often the
opposite of the emotional side effects for adults. What makes us sleepy
seems to make some of them hyper etc. Poor Sam. Poor you. I hope he grows
out of his asthma.
Tanada - 22 Aug 2004 18:19 GMT
> Yay! Glad its good news.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I've got permanant PMS in mood, but feel like I could take on the world
> (which of course makes it worse)

Poor Rob didn't get the empowered feeling.  He got aggressive and short
tempered and felt as though his mind and body were being taken over.  He
also says that he wasn't getting one bit paranoid, thank you very much.

Pam S. long suffering
Yowie - 23 Aug 2004 11:29 GMT
> > Yay! Glad its good news.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> tempered and felt as though his mind and body were being taken over.  He
> also says that he wasn't getting one bit paranoid, thank you very much.

Guess it effects different peeps in different ways, but the agressiveness /
short temperedness is not unusual when on steroids.

Purrs to Rob, and more purrs again to the long suffering one.

Can I cheer you up and say that Cary can now hawl himself to standing
position all by himself (and boy isn't he so proud of himself when he
does!). He doesn't have the balance to stand (or even sit) yet unsupported,
but I am quite sure I'm going to have a marauding toddler on my hands by
Christmas. Poor, Poor Shmogg....

Yowie
Tanada - 24 Aug 2004 03:38 GMT
> Guess it effects different peeps in different ways, but the agressiveness /
> short temperedness is not unusual when on steroids.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> but I am quite sure I'm going to have a marauding toddler on my hands by
> Christmas. Poor, Poor Shmogg....

HAHAHAHAHA, boy are you going to have your hands full.  WTG my honorary
grandson.  I wouldn't worry about Smogg, he'll train Cary how to behave
towards a superior species, and then have Cary teaching you.  Thanks, I
need a good laugh on a regular basis, and that post provided one.

Pam S. still laughing
Jean Hobbs - 28 Aug 2004 12:03 GMT
So glad your feeling better about Rob,I'm sure he was under the influence of
the tumou when he was being a bit naughty, tumours tend to do that to people
Cheers that things go really well from here on in    Jean.P.
> Yay! Glad its good news.
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 9/08/04
Steve Touchstone - 21 Aug 2004 00:43 GMT
great news. Purrs that all the MRIs will stay clean.

>UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
>call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Pam S. really relieved

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O J - 21 Aug 2004 01:21 GMT
On Fri, 20 Aug, Pam S. wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------
>Anyway, the news is the best possible right now.  The specialists
>(radiology pathologists specializing in brain tumors) agree with Dr
>Ewend that there is no signs that the tumor has grown.
---------------------<snip>----------------------

That's great news!  Purrs that the C stays in remission.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Susan M - 22 Aug 2004 17:49 GMT
Hey Pam:

I was away from the ng when you posted the original message.  I'm glad that
Rob's tumor is under still control, though I don't see the original post to
see exactly what happened - purrs to all of you.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

> On Fri, 20 Aug, Pam S. wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J
Tanada - 22 Aug 2004 18:30 GMT
> Hey Pam:
>
> I was away from the ng when you posted the original message.  I'm glad that
> Rob's tumor is under still control, though I don't see the original post to
> see exactly what happened - purrs to all of you.

Briefly (though that isn't possible for me), we were coming back from
vacation, when Rob had a seizure.  The ER doc had a CT done and told us
that there was some calcium build up, but nothing major that they could
see and for Rob to go on steroids and stay on his meds.  (Rob had
decided that he couldn't remember to take his meds, so why bother)  We
got back and called Rob's oncologist who had Rob get an MRI.  The
radiologist reading the MRI decided that the tumors were growing back in
two places.  We were then sent to UNC/Chapel Hill, where we saw a
neurosurgeon named Dr Mike Ewend, who said that he didn't see any signs
that the tumors were growing and then put the MRI films before the
experts in his group and on the tumor board.  They agreed with him on
the tumors not growing and on what he wants next, Temodar for the next
12 months, or however long Rob can tolerate it, whichever comes first.
Rob's military oncologist, who's very good BTW, is wondering why put Rob
back on Temodar if there is no signs of it growing back.  The oncologist
and surgeon now get to work out the best treatment for Rob.  We're
celebrating.

Pam S.
Howard Berkowitz - 22 Aug 2004 23:30 GMT
> > Hey Pam:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> and surgeon now get to work out the best treatment for Rob.  We're
> celebrating.

I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
treatment of brain cancer, with effectiveness nothing before has ever
approached.

Good luck!
CatNipped - 23 Aug 2004 00:19 GMT
> I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
> the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
> treatment of brain cancer, with effectiveness nothing before has ever
> approached.
>
> Good luck!

Howard, you are extremely knowledgeable about medications (among other
things), are you in the medical field, really, really smart, or both?  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Howard Berkowitz - 23 Aug 2004 02:48 GMT
> > I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
> > the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Howard, you are extremely knowledgeable about medications (among other
> things), are you in the medical field, really, really smart, or both?  ;>

Well, let me put it this way -- I'm not a physician, but I simulate them
on computers. I manage to be underemployed both in network engineering
and clinical computing!  I'm more published in network engineering, but
medicine has been a lifelong interest. Some of my projects include
expert systems that try to put the "doc into the box," so I have to get
into the fundamental medical science, not just this pill does that.
CatNipped - 23 Aug 2004 03:08 GMT
> Well, let me put it this way -- I'm not a physician, but I simulate them
> on computers. I manage to be underemployed both in network engineering
> and clinical computing!  I'm more published in network engineering, but
> medicine has been a lifelong interest. Some of my projects include
> expert systems that try to put the "doc into the box," so I have to get
> into the fundamental medical science, not just this pill does that.

That's awesome - and totally fascinating.  What a great way to make a
living!  From your notes to the group I can tell you're very good at it, I
would have sworn you were an MD (in fact you seemed to know more about some
of the medications I was taking than my doctor did!).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Howard Berkowitz - 23 Aug 2004 03:23 GMT
> > Well, let me put it this way -- I'm not a physician, but I simulate
> > them
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> some
> of the medications I was taking than my doctor did!).

One of my wiser physicians, a highly regarded cardiologist, suggests
that I know more about the combination of the dozen or so drugs that I
take than almost any physician -- because I've had more incentive to
study their interactions, read obscure papers, etc., than any regular
practitioner would have for that specific combination.  We also agree
that when someone is taking ten or more drugs, nobody really knows what
they are doing to each other.

In some respects, understanding drugs has become easier in the last
15-20 years, as long as people -- doctors or educated laymen -- will do
the homework to understand how they work at a molecular basis. Prior to
some of the more recent theory, doctors had to memorize huge texts about
drugs, but still really didn't know WHY things behaved the way they do.
I have the greatest of respect for physicians that didn't learn this
background in medical school, but have made the effort to master it.
Some specialties get more into drugs than others -- it's a running joke
that orthopedists are very highly paid plasterers and carpenters.
Yowie - 23 Aug 2004 11:38 GMT
> > > Well, let me put it this way -- I'm not a physician, but I simulate
> > > them
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Some specialties get more into drugs than others -- it's a running joke
> that orthopedists are very highly paid plasterers and carpenters.

Us lowly chemists (industrial, a paint technologist to be exact) can only
grovel at the feet of someone who understands the interaction of such
complex molecular chemistry on physiology. It makes my brain hurt just
thinking about it (and organic chemsitry was my strongest subject!)

Kudos to you, Howard!

(and purrs of course)

Yowie
Tanada - 24 Aug 2004 03:42 GMT
> I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
> the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
> treatment of brain cancer, with effectiveness nothing before has ever
> approached.
>
> Good luck!

Thanks.  Rob is part of the third stage of testing for it; which, if I
understand correctly, is for getting the dosages set up.  I suspect that
is part of the reason the Surgeon at UNC wants to keep up with the
Temodar.  The Drs. haven't agreed on a treatment plan yet, but when they
do...

Could use purrs.  Rob and I have an appointment with Social Security on
September 7th to turn in paperwork and, hopefully, find out if Rob
qualifies for disability payments.  Social Security is notorious for not
finding anyone disabled so long as they can breathe.

Pam S.
Jo Firey - 24 Aug 2004 04:04 GMT
> > I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
> > the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Pam S.

Purrs for your dealings with Social Security.  And do not hesitate to stress
the mental component of his disability as well as the physical.  I'm quite
sure he has enough of a fight on his hands to use up every shred of physical
and mental energy he ever had.

Jo
Steve Touchstone - 24 Aug 2004 05:45 GMT
>Could use purrs.  Rob and I have an appointment with Social Security on
>September 7th to turn in paperwork and, hopefully, find out if Rob
>qualifies for disability payments.  Social Security is notorious for not
>finding anyone disabled so long as they can breathe.
Purrs that all goes well at the appointment, but don't get too
discouraged if it takes several trips. As you say, they take their own
sweet time before they make a decision. According to one of my
customers, after he was injured and disabled on the job was getting
workers comp was almost as bad.

His worse experience came from the company he worked for, though, even
worse than Social Security. What made that so frustrating was, that he
had to go to court up in Oklahoma City many times. He and his wife
would drive up from Lawton and many times they'd show up and the
company lawyers wold get up and ask for a continuance or ask that he
be seen by yet another specialist. After more than a year of that the
judge in the case got fed up, called the lawyers from both sides into
his office and told them that if they didn't settle he would. Even
then the company's lawyers tried to stall at the next court date.
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Howard Berkowitz - 24 Aug 2004 07:14 GMT
> > I hadn't been familiar with Temodar, but had a chance to read some of
> > the relevant medical literature today.  It's revolutionized the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> qualifies for disability payments.  Social Security is notorious for not
> finding anyone disabled so long as they can breathe.

If you haven't already enlisted their help, talk to the business office
and/or social services at the hospital. There's been a recent flurry of
articles in medical business journals that it's to hospitals' advantage
to be very good at helping people get on SSDI -- it's often the only way
they may be paid for uninsured emergency patients. Lots of consultants
and guides are floating around.
LOL - 24 Aug 2004 07:35 GMT
(snippage)

> Could use purrs.  Rob and I have an appointment with Social Security on
> September 7th to turn in paperwork and, hopefully, find out if Rob
> qualifies for disability payments.  Social Security is notorious for not
> finding anyone disabled so long as they can breathe.
>
> Pam S.

Purrs, purrs, purrs!  Dealing with Social Security can be the pits -
we are crossing our appendages for you.

------
Krista
polonca12000 - 24 Aug 2004 16:25 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for Rob to get his disability payments without
a problem,
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<snip>> Could use purrs.  Rob and I have an appointment with Social Security
on
> September 7th to turn in paperwork and, hopefully, find out if Rob
> qualifies for disability payments.  Social Security is notorious for not
> finding anyone disabled so long as they can breathe.
>
> Pam S.
Susan M - 24 Aug 2004 04:49 GMT
Wow Pam - that's a lot to happen to you all - so much worry for you.  Is the
Temodar hard to take - it sounds like it has side effects?  My best wishes
to you and Rob and crew - your sense of humour must serve you well and I
admire you for it.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

> Briefly (though that isn't possible for me), we were coming back from
> vacation, when Rob had a seizure.  The ER doc had a CT done and told us
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Pam S.
Tanada - 24 Aug 2004 19:24 GMT
> Wow Pam - that's a lot to happen to you all - so much worry for you.  Is the
> Temodar hard to take - it sounds like it has side effects?  My best wishes
> to you and Rob and crew - your sense of humour must serve you well and I
> admire you for it.

Rob has handled the Temodar very well in the past.  He was sicker than
all get out the first day, but the oncologist prescribed some medicine
for the nausea, and Rob had no problems after that.  Like any Chemo,
Temodar can/will affect one's blood counts.  Fortunately, it is in pill
form, so Rob won't have to sit for hours with an IV hanging over his
head.  They still haven't got hold of us, so we don't know what the deal
is with it, yet.  Paws are crossed here that they work it out and get us
off limbo land.  I'm working on the next phase, right now, getting Rob
SSDI.  After that fight, we'll take on the next one, whatever it is.

Pam S. acting as pompous as usual
Susan M - 25 Aug 2004 03:14 GMT
I hadn't realized that Temodar is a chemo.  Is it possible that the tumours
may disappear entirely or is it expected that they just get to a certain
size and stay like that in perpetuity?

Good luck on that SSDI fight - pompous might be what it takes to get *that*
done :-)  I thought Howard had some good advice about engaging the hospital
to help, if possible.

Pam = pompous???  Still scratching my head ...

Susan M
Otis and Chester
... and two little kids who don't want to go to bed ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

> > Wow Pam - that's a lot to happen to you all - so much worry for you.  Is the
> > Temodar hard to take - it sounds like it has side effects?  My best wishes
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Pam S. acting as pompous as usual
badwilson - 21 Aug 2004 02:54 GMT
What a relief!  Many purrs coming up for Rob to continue to do well and for
the meds to work and agree with him.
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> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved
Lucy's Mom - 21 Aug 2004 03:39 GMT
That's great news!!  What a relief!!!  Stress-relieving purrs are on
the way.....

--Kim and Lucy

>UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
>call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Pam S. really relieved
Marina - 21 Aug 2004 04:56 GMT
> Anyway, the news is the best possible right now.  The specialists
> (radiology pathologists specializing in brain tumors) agree with Dr
> Ewend that there is no signs that the tumor has grown.

That is wonderful news, Pam. Many purrs to you all, and Nikki offers to come
over with her sharp claws if Rob "forgets" to take his medicine. I told her
he has quite enough klitty nurses around as it is.

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Tanada - 22 Aug 2004 18:54 GMT
> That is wonderful news, Pam. Many purrs to you all, and Nikki offers to come
> over with her sharp claws if Rob "forgets" to take his medicine. I told her
> he has quite enough klitty nurses around as it is.

Thanks Marina and Nikki.  I'll definitely keep Nikki's offer in mind for
the next time Rob gets out of line.

Pam S.
LOL - 21 Aug 2004 09:42 GMT
> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved

WooHoo!  That's marvelous news!  If you'd like, I'm sure it can be
arranged that all of rpca can nag him in turn by e-mail.  :-D

------
Krista
Who's HaPpY DaNcInG for you
Tanada - 22 Aug 2004 18:58 GMT
> WooHoo!  That's marvelous news!  If you'd like, I'm sure it can be
> arranged that all of rpca can nag him in turn by e-mail.  :-D
>
> ------
> Krista
> Who's HaPpY DaNcInG for you

I like it.  Rob's email is Hawktech@excite.com  Nag away.

Pam S.
LOL - 24 Aug 2004 04:45 GMT
> > WooHoo!  That's marvelous news!  If you'd like, I'm sure it can be
> > arranged that all of rpca can nag him in turn by e-mail.  :-D
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S.

Kewl!  I get to nag *someone else's* DH for a change!  Mine will no
doubt be relieved.

------
Krista
Adrian - 25 Aug 2004 12:42 GMT
>>> WooHoo!  That's marvelous news!  If you'd like, I'm sure it can be
>>> arranged that all of rpca can nag him in turn by e-mail.  :-D
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Kewl!  I get to nag *someone else's* DH for a change!  Mine will no
> doubt be relieved.

Surely you can nag more than one at a time? ;-)
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Adrian - 21 Aug 2004 16:40 GMT
> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved

{{{{{{{{Pam}}}}}}}}} I'm happy for you.
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Victor Martinez - 21 Aug 2004 16:58 GMT
> sucker is dead, nag at Rob to KEEP TAKING HIS MEDS, and keep in eye on

Do keep the nagging on! I'm glad to hear the tumor isn't growing.

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polonca12000 - 21 Aug 2004 20:09 GMT
That's wonderful!
Lots of best wishes and purrs,
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> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
> get hold of us, and we couldn't get hold of him.
>
> Anyway, the news is the best possible right now.  <snip
SUQKRT - 21 Aug 2004 20:17 GMT
>I think now that the bad temper and inappropriate comments were because of
stress and the steroids.  Rob really doesn't remember saying any of those
shocking comments or blowing up at anyone.  I believe him.  Rob
>has always admitted to any thing he's done, so long as he remembers it.
>
>Pam S. really relieved

I hope/pray/purr (well Spicey purrs) the good news continues.
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Cheryl - 22 Aug 2004 21:30 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", Tanada
<tanada@earthlink.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:2MsVc.30148$nx2.26727@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> on
20 Aug 2004:

> Anyway, the news is the best possible right now.  The
> specialists (radiology pathologists specializing in brain
> tumors) agree with Dr Ewend that there is no signs that the
> tumor has grown.  

Great news Pam. You guys deserve a break!

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Sam Nash - 22 Aug 2004 23:28 GMT
> UPDATE:  We finally got hold of Dr Ewend's secretary, who had Dr Ewend
> call us back.  Dr Ewend was in surgery all day yesterday, so couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S. really relieved
We're really relieved, too, Pam.  Purrs and prayers for Rob's continued
improvement.
Sam and Ramona
 
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