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Hubert used the litterbox!!  (Sort of GW)

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LOL - 16 Aug 2004 06:05 GMT
And Tallulah did NOT like it.  He figured it out all by himself; got
in and made a teeny little poop and scratched around, trying to cover
it but missing entirely.  Tallulah was upset and dragged it out to eat
it.  I backed her off, picked it up and put it back in the box, and
scratched litter over it while both cats looked on.  Hubert stayed in
the box to scratch some more; Tallulah then scruffed him and dragged
him away from the box while I was washing my hands.  *sigh*   Anyway,
I do hope Hubert keeps it up and teaches his mom to do the same.

Tallulah's not liking any of Hubert's steps to becoming a Big Kitty;
she doesn't want him to eat cat food or drink water or use the
litterbox.  It seems to me that she's being *seriously*
overprotective, but I don't know what to do about it.  I am inclined
to mostly just trust Tallulah to raise her kitten, but I certainly
don't want Hubert to get discouraged.

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Krista
Jo Firey - 16 Aug 2004 08:16 GMT
Poor Mamma cat.  Is this her first kit?  Has to be hard for her especially
as he is so big.

She has likely had bad experiences with water, and doesn't want him to drown
in the mean ole bowl.  Also with one kitten she probably has enough milk to
be uncomfortable and doesn't really appreciate him dinning out.

And I'd be willing to bet that after a little consideration, she will decide
the litter box isn't such an awful idea.  And even try to convince everyone
she thought of it first.

Jo
> And Tallulah did NOT like it.  He figured it out all by himself; got
> in and made a teeny little poop and scratched around, trying to cover
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> Krista
LOL - 17 Aug 2004 06:28 GMT
> Poor Mamma cat.  Is this her first kit?  Has to be hard for her especially
> as he is so big.
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>
> Jo

I have no idea whether this is her first; the first time I ever saw
Tallulah was only a few days before Hubert is born, but Tallulah seems
so young herself that I would bet he's her first.

I hadn't thought about the too much mmilk issue; considering how
swollen the poor little girl is, you're probably right.  But dang,
he's gotta be weaned some time!   :-)

I am hoping that what you said about the litter box is exactly what
will happen.  We've got our fingers crossed!

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Krista
jmcquown - 17 Aug 2004 20:57 GMT
probably has enough
>> milk to
>> be uncomfortable and doesn't really appreciate him dinning out.
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> swollen the poor little girl is, you're probably right.  But dang,
> he's gotta be weaned some time!   :-)

Yeah, but not necessarily at 22 days old.  It will be a gradual process, I'm
sure.  Good luck!  He sounds very precocious for one so young :)

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Aug 2004 18:37 GMT
> Tallulah's not liking any of Hubert's steps to becoming a Big Kitty;

LOL!  Some human mothers behave in similar fashion - I hope it doesn't
leave the same psychological scars on the offspring with cats!
LOL - 17 Aug 2004 08:26 GMT
> > Tallulah's not liking any of Hubert's steps to becoming a Big Kitty;
>
> LOL!  Some human mothers behave in similar fashion - I hope it doesn't
> leave the same psychological scars on the offspring with cats!

I don't think it will in this case - Hubert seems pretty unfazed, and
DH tells me that as soon as I take Tallulah outside Hubert zooms over
to the food and water to eat and drink without interference.  Hee hee.

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Krista
JBHajos - 17 Aug 2004 21:38 GMT
>I don't think it will in this case - Hubert seems pretty unfazed, and
>DH tells me that as soon as I take Tallulah outside Hubert zooms over
>to the food and water to eat and drink without interference.  Hee hee.

  Little rascal has a mind of his own, doesn't he?  He's gonna be
*some* kitty-cat one day!!!

  Jeanne
Kreisleriana - 16 Aug 2004 19:11 GMT
>And Tallulah did NOT like it.  He figured it out all by himself; got
>in and made a teeny little poop and scratched around, trying to cover
>it but missing entirely.

WOW!  What a good boy!

I know I shouldn't but I always think tiny babies in the litterbox are
hilarious.  

> Tallulah was upset and dragged it out to eat
>it.  I backed her off, picked it up and put it back in the box, and
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Magic Mood Jeep? - 16 Aug 2004 19:23 GMT
I watched one of the FF when they'd been inside for about a week - I have
NEVER shown a kitten, not even Weeble, how to use a litterbox, they just
took to it as it was there (and they're all diggers, flinging litter (and
whatever it is stuck to) everywhere) - I believe it was Ernie.  He made a
pile of litter, then dug a hole in it (kinda looked like Mt St Helens) then
proceeded to poop, missing the hole (it fell on the side of his little
mountain), and when he was finished, he filled in his hole, missing the
poop.  I went over, laughing, after he was done and buried it for him (using
a plastic fork) because it STUNK.

I think Tallulah probably ate the poop, because that's what they do in the
wild, to protect the kittens from predators that would be attracted by the
smell of the poop.  she hasn't gotten it into her head yet that there are NO
predators inside!
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> >And Tallulah did NOT like it.  He figured it out all by himself; got
> >in and made a teeny little poop and scratched around, trying to cover
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Kreisleriana - 16 Aug 2004 20:07 GMT
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:23:03 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©"
<nobody@nowhere.net> yodeled:

>I watched one of the FF when they'd been inside for about a week - I have
>NEVER shown a kitten, not even Weeble, how to use a litterbox, they just
>took to it as it was there (and they're all diggers, flinging litter (and
>whatever it is stuck to) everywhere)
(snip)

Cue The Clash: "Rocking the catbox, rocking the catcox." ;)

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jmcquown - 16 Aug 2004 21:28 GMT
>> I watched one of the FF when they'd been inside for about a week - I
>> have NEVER shown a kitten, not even Weeble, how to use a litterbox,
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>
> Cue The Clash: "Rocking the catbox, rocking the catcox." ;)

My, my, we *are* a bunch of old rock 'n roll fans here, aren't we! :D

Jill (rockin' the casbah, er, cat box)

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Cheryl - 16 Aug 2004 23:44 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "jmcquown"

> My, my, we *are* a bunch of old rock 'n roll fans here, aren't
> we! :D
>
> Jill (rockin' the casbah, er, cat box)

I heard a parody of that song called "clean the cat box".  lol

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Seanette Blaylock - 16 Aug 2004 22:28 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> had some very interesting
things to say about Re: Hubert used the litterbox!!  (Sort of GW):

>I watched one of the FF when they'd been inside for about a week - I have
>NEVER shown a kitten, not even Weeble, how to use a litterbox, they just
>took to it as it was there (and they're all diggers, flinging litter (and
>whatever it is stuck to) everywhere) -

When I adopt a kitten, I usually do show him/her where the box is,
plop the kitten into it, and maybe take the little front paws and dig
a bit to give them the idea.

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Marina - 17 Aug 2004 04:44 GMT
> When I adopt a kitten, I usually do show him/her where the box is,
> plop the kitten into it, and maybe take the little front paws and dig
> a bit to give them the idea.

When I brought Nikki home, I plopped her in the box. Then she went exploring
and challenging Frank and eating, and a half hour later, she went to the box
and used it. She had never used a box before, but we never had any problems
after that.Wish Tallulah would get the message as easily, but of course, she
has spent a longer time outside (Nikki was only 2 months old) and gotten
used to the outside rules, which are different than inside rules.

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LOL - 17 Aug 2004 06:41 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:<bY6Uc.135425$8_6.108580@attbi_s04>...

(snippety)
> I think Tallulah probably ate the poop, because that's what they do in the
> wild, to protect the kittens from predators that would be attracted by the
> smell of the poop.  she hasn't gotten it into her head yet that there are NO
> predators inside!

Yes, that's what I think too.  Hubert knows better, though; he knows
that the only fearsome predators in his world are DH and me.   ;-)

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Marina - 17 Aug 2004 14:08 GMT
> "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote
> (snippety)
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> Yes, that's what I think too.  Hubert knows better, though; he knows
> that the only fearsome predators in his world are DH and me.   ;-)

Is he still skittish around you? Any sign of him calming down?

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LOL - 18 Aug 2004 07:07 GMT
> Is he still skittish around you? Any sign of him calming down?

He's better, but still wary.  He will play with me with the fuzzy
tasselled ball on a string (gotta order more of those!!) and will bat
at my fingers sometimes if I waggle them at him.  He will stand and
stare solemnly at us instead of running away immediately, but doesn't
usually want to get too close.

I pet him some when he's too sleepy to protest, but it's sooooo hard
to let him set the pace and not just swoop him up and smooch him to
pieces!  ;-)

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Marina - 18 Aug 2004 16:34 GMT
> He's better, but still wary.  He will play with me with the fuzzy
> tasselled ball on a string (gotta order more of those!!) and will bat
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> to let him set the pace and not just swoop him up and smooch him to
> pieces!  ;-)

Aww, I probably could not resist. Purrs that he lets you do that soon.

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