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Christina Websell - 15 Aug 2004 16:35 GMT
Dear all

A little update on Kitty FC who had a "nasty happening" almost a week ago.

She is almost completely well again.  Eating like at least two cats and
swearing at Boyfriend.  She can go up and down the stairs, outside for
toilet duties, sunbathe in the (rare here, sun) and meatloaf happily on her
cushion on the back of the sofa.

I honestly thought when I found her so limp and cold that she was a gonner.
In fact, my German friend mailed me today to say this (she knows and really
likes Kitty)

"> Kitty's temperature was sub-normal.

that's what I'm most afraid of in cats. I have lost every single cat I
took to the vet's with sub-normal temperature. I am so glad to hear Kitty
has recovered!!!
Poor old lady... she must have had a terrible time until you found her."

And I was indeed very lucky to find her.  She didn't have the strength to
come home and if she had been more than a few gardens away, I probably
wouldn't have got to her in time.

Have to go now.  She says "gimme more food.." and I suppose I have to.
At this rate she will become obese as she is a very tiny cat.  2 kg ish.
Minute, really, but yet so fierce and independent!
I thought Boyfriend was a very big cat, but my cat-owning friends say he is
normal size and that he just looked enormous compared to Kitty!

Tweed
Pat - 15 Aug 2004 16:48 GMT
Wonderful news! Hope she learned a lesson and will avoid whatever it was
that hurt her from now on.

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Victor Martinez - 15 Aug 2004 17:45 GMT
I'm really glad to hear she's doing better.

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KellyH - 15 Aug 2004 19:04 GMT
GREAT!!  Gald to hear she's doing better.  I like her name, too. :-)

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Marina - 15 Aug 2004 19:08 GMT
> A little update on Kitty FC who had a "nasty happening" almost a week ago.
>
> She is almost completely well again.

It's wonderful that she's doing so well. They do give us terrible scares
sometimes, don't they.

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Exocat - 15 Aug 2004 19:53 GMT
Great news. We could all do with more.

BTW another version of her name could be: Kitty First Class. I think
she's earned it.

Purrs & best wishes

Gordon, Bandit, Pericles & Snowball

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> A little update on Kitty FC who had a "nasty happening" almost a week ago.
>
> She is almost completely well again.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Aug 2004 19:56 GMT
> Have to go now.  She says "gimme more food.." and I suppose I have to.
> At this rate she will become obese as she is a very tiny cat.  2 kg ish.
> Minute, really, but yet so fierce and independent!
> I thought Boyfriend was a very big cat, but my cat-owning friends say he is
> normal size and that he just looked enormous compared to Kitty!

I had the same situation in reverse!  Melisande has always been "my
little girl" - and of course she WAS, when she came to me as a kitten.
However, Patches was so much bigger that I never realized her fifteen
pounds makes her a BIG "girl"!  (It's just that he weighed nearly twenty
pounds, so beside him.....)
Christina Websell - 19 Aug 2004 03:45 GMT
> > Have to go now.  She says "gimme more food.." and I suppose I have to.
> > At this rate she will become obese as she is a very tiny cat.  2 kg ish.
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> pounds makes her a BIG "girl"!  (It's just that he weighed nearly twenty
> pounds, so beside him.....)

<swoon> at the thought of 15 or 20 lb cats.  How do you get them so big?
I don't expect Kitty FC will get any heavier than her maybe 5 pounds or so.
Boyfriend is a much larger cat, but he isn't heavy.  I have not weighed him,
but perhaps 8 lbs from the feel of him.
What is the normal weight variation for a DSH moggie?

Tweed
Karen Chuplis - 19 Aug 2004 04:26 GMT
>>> Have to go now.  She says "gimme more food.." and I suppose I have to.
>>> At this rate she will become obese as she is a very tiny cat.  2 kg ish.
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> Tweed

I odn't think there *is* a normal. It varies tremendously.
Seanette Blaylock - 19 Aug 2004 05:04 GMT
"Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some very
interesting things to say about Re: Kitty Farmcat feels great!:

><swoon> at the thought of 15 or 20 lb cats.  How do you get them so big?

Find a Maine Coon. :-)

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Wyld_Cat - 20 Aug 2004 00:15 GMT
> What is the normal weight variation for a DSH moggie?
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> Tweed
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>I'm ot sure how this compares but my3 year old DSH Freddy is 5kg, has been
this weight for atleast a year.
I thought this was pretty impressive until my neighbour told me how heavy
his cat Boo was, an even more impressive 10kg. No maine coone in him but
persian cross.
Freddy's mum was  black oriental type breed so even though he is pretty
heavy there's not much of him.
Will post seperately about his attitudes

Wyld_Cat
Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 00:47 GMT
> > What is the normal weight variation for a DSH moggie?
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Now you made me get my bathroom scales from upstairs to weigh my cats!
Kitty FC is even smaller than I thought, just a bit less than 4lbs, less
than 2 kg, but remember, she is *very* tiny.
Boyfriend weighs 7lbs.  3 and a bit kilos,  he looks a fine weight for his
size, not thin, not fluffy.
He looks lithe and fit.
He hated going on the scales and it took ages to get all his feet on ;-)

Looking forward to hearing about your cats.

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 20 Aug 2004 01:48 GMT
> Boyfriend weighs 7lbs.  3 and a bit kilos,  he looks a fine weight
> for his size, not thin, not fluffy. He looks lithe and fit. He hated
> going on the scales and it took ages to get all his feet on ;-)

A bit neurotic about his weight, perhaps? :)

One way around this problem is to weigh yourself first, sans cat, then
get back on the scale holding the cat. The difference is the cat's weight.

Joyce
Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 02:26 GMT
>  > Boyfriend weighs 7lbs.  3 and a bit kilos,  he looks a fine weight
>  > for his size, not thin, not fluffy. He looks lithe and fit. He hated
>  > going on the scales and it took ages to get all his feet on ;-)
>
> A bit neurotic about his weight, perhaps? :)

<g>  No.  It has taken a while for him to be comfortable to be picked up.  A
year ago he could not bear me anywhere near him and would disappear
immediately from his adopted bed in the conservatory if I opened the back
door.  He is a shy lad with a nervous and gentle temperament.

> One way around this problem is to weigh yourself first, sans cat, then
> get back on the scale holding the cat. The difference is the cat's weight.

Good idea.  I'd like to get him confident for me to put him on the scales
again, but if he is too scared I'll take up your idea, thanks.  He wasn't
scared though, just didn't want to put all his feet on the scales at once.

Tweed

> Joyce
Marina - 20 Aug 2004 03:40 GMT
> Now you made me get my bathroom scales from upstairs to weigh my cats!
> Kitty FC is even smaller than I thought, just a bit less than 4lbs, less
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> He looks lithe and fit.
> He hated going on the scales and it took ages to get all his feet on ;-)

When Nikki was younger, she weighed around 2 kg for many years, but when she
turned 10, I'm afraid she let herself go. ;o) Nikki is a very petite cat,
too. Now she weighs around 3.5 kg. Very "fluffy", but she has lost some
weight lately.

Frank used to weigh around 4-4.5, and he looked fit anf fine. Now, with age
and hyperthyroidism, he only wieghs around 3.5, but he still looks OK. It's
just the pouch under his belly that is pretty big these days.

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Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2004 03:54 GMT
> > Now you made me get my bathroom scales from upstairs to weigh my cats!
> > Kitty FC is even smaller than I thought, just a bit less than 4lbs, less
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> too. Now she weighs around 3.5 kg. Very "fluffy", but she has lost some
> weight lately.

I wish Kitty would let herself go!  I'd like her to be heavier.  She is such
a tiny cat.

> > Frank used to weigh around 4-4.5, and he looked fit anf fine. Now, with
age
> and hyperthyroidism, he only wieghs around 3.5, but he still looks OK. It's
> just the pouch under his belly that is pretty big these days.

Kitty, small as she is, has a pouch.  I thought older cats always got one?
That it was normal for the elderly ones.  Might be wrong, but sure I read it
somewhere.

Tweed
badwilson - 20 Aug 2004 04:25 GMT
> > > Now you made me get my bathroom scales from upstairs to weigh my cats!
> > > Kitty FC is even smaller than I thought, just a bit less than 4lbs, less
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> Tweed

I think the pouch is genetic.  Some cats have them and some don't.  Even
lions often have them.  Vino has been steady at 12 lbs for all of his adult
life and he's got one.  The rest of him isn't fat though, he's very solid
and muscular.  Except for the squishy pouch :-)
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Jeanne Hedge - 20 Aug 2004 04:54 GMT
>> > > Frank used to weigh around 4-4.5, and he looked fit anf fine. Now,
>with
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>life and he's got one.  The rest of him isn't fat though, he's very solid
>and muscular.  Except for the squishy pouch :-)

I did some research on this once and found that breed standards used
by cat shows sometimes refer to this pouch - apparently having one is
required for some feline breeds. There I saw it called a "primordial
belly pouch".

I kind of like some of the names for it in the Cat Terms list on
Flippy's Cat Page: Cat Paddle, Cat Flap, Apron, Udder, Cat Belly Flab,
Sack of Jello, The Bags, The Sacks, Pouch, Buddah, Buddah Belly, Beer
Belly, Modesty Flap, Fat Sack, and Fat Pocket.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 20 Aug 2004 12:54 GMT
> I did some research on this once and found that breed standards used
> by cat shows sometimes refer to this pouch - apparently having one is
> required for some feline breeds. There I saw it called a "primordial
> belly pouch".

Primordial belly pouch... so that's what I have. :)

Joyce
Melissa Houle - 15 Aug 2004 20:26 GMT
I'm glad to hear Kitty FC is doing so much better. =o) She's not quite ready
to check out on you, I guess.

Melissa

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Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2004 20:47 GMT
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>toilet duties, sunbathe in the (rare here, sun) and meatloaf happily on her
>cushion on the back of the sofa.

So glad your scare is over!

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Sam Nash - 15 Aug 2004 22:08 GMT
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> Tweed

Great news, Tweed!  Globe-encircling purrs work their magic yet again.
Sam
polonca12000 - 15 Aug 2004 22:52 GMT
That's a relief! I'm so happy!
Best wishes and purrs,
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> Dear all
>
> A little update on Kitty FC who had a "nasty happening" almost a week ago.
>
> She is almost completely well again.  <snip
CatNipped - 15 Aug 2004 23:19 GMT
Thank goodness!  I'm so glad to hear that Tweed!

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LOL - 16 Aug 2004 05:53 GMT
> Dear all
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> toilet duties, sunbathe in the (rare here, sun) and meatloaf happily on her
> cushion on the back of the sofa.

(little snippage)

I am glad to read she's doing so well!  Please give her an extra scritch for me.

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Krista
badwilson - 16 Aug 2004 09:15 GMT
Great news!  I bet she's eating so much because her body is healing.  That
healing process burns a lot of calories.  She should slow down as she gets
completely healed.  Or maybe not, maybe she'll realize how great eating is
and just continue to stuff herself ;-)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Aug 2004 09:56 GMT
> A little update on Kitty FC who had a "nasty happening" almost a week ago.

> She is almost completely well again.  Eating like at least two cats and
> swearing at Boyfriend.  She can go up and down the stairs, outside for
> toilet duties, sunbathe in the (rare here, sun) and meatloaf happily on her
> cushion on the back of the sofa.

I'm so glad to read this!! I guess it'll always be a mystery exactly what
happened to her, but I'm glad she's recovered!

Joyce
Karen - 17 Aug 2004 17:01 GMT
Excellent news.

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Jo Firey - 17 Aug 2004 19:33 GMT
Sounds very much like she took a fall that left her too hurt to get home and
then got knocked down by the elements and exposure.  Glad her injuries seem
to have healed and that she is getting back to her old self.

A cats instinct to go to ground when its hurt can really work against them
when a loving family can't find them and help.

Its about out biggest worry as ours are indoor/outdoor cats and they refuse
to convert to house cat status.

Jo

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Christina Websell - 17 Aug 2004 20:39 GMT
> Sounds very much like she took a fall that left her too hurt to get home and
> then got knocked down by the elements and exposure.  Glad her injuries seem
> to have healed and that she is getting back to her old self.

And how!  Yesterday there was the body of a young bird on my hearthrug -
quite a big fledgling. It was a young collared dove not yet out of the nest,
maybe 10 days old. I put it in the dustbin (garbage can.)
Half an hour later Kitty came in with another one, and proceeded to eat the
lot.  Legs and all.  Chomp chomp, gulp, gulp.  No wonder she survived for so
long as a feral.
I guess she climbed a tree and found a nest.

> A cats instinct to go to ground when its hurt can really work against them
> when a loving family can't find them and help.

I was really lucky to find her, you know, as I had already looked in that
place twice.  It must have been the purrs and prayers that did it..

> Its about out biggest worry as ours are indoor/outdoor cats and they refuse
> to convert to house cat status.

If it's possible for cats to be able to go outdoors, personally, I think
they should be allowed to unless you have some sort of motorway in front of
your house and they are sure to get killed or you live right in the middle
of a large town or city.
Mine enjoy it so much in the garden, which is reasonably large (1,000 square
yards, some of it wildish)  Fields at the back, next four neighbours the
same amount of ground.
It's kitty paradise really.

There is not much traffic at all up here, but if there was I would be
tempted to keep them in.  I will never know what happened to Kitty, whether
she got a glancing blow from a rare car, fell, or even perhaps someone
kicked her - altho that's quite unlikely as this is a nice community.

I visited a friend tonight and was saying how I wished I had a digital
camera so I could take pics of Kitty FC & Boyfriend and share them on the
group.
She has no concept of newsgroups but immediately said she would come and
take some piccies.  But not for a week or two as she is busy.
Hey,.she took a lovely foto of her own longhair tuxedo and has it for a
desktop background.  So maybe she can get my two!
Watch this space.

Tweed

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