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Debbie Wilson - 21 Jul 2004 18:26 GMT
Hi all,

Willow's last catch was a 5-legged cricket sometime back in 1997.
Here is what she brought in today. Please note - it was completely
unharmed and very lively, and we released it immediately after taking a
few photos! Isn't he gorgeous?

http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/diatomdeb/album?.dir=/6366

NB. it ISN'T a snake, but if you're really snake-phobic, probably best
not to look...

Deb :-)

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Dhelderman - 21 Jul 2004 18:43 GMT
what was that thing?? it sure looked like a snake to me... had to stand five
feet away from the computer when i saw it (shivers)

the insane one

> Hi all,
>
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> Deb :-)
Nik Simpson - 21 Jul 2004 20:22 GMT
> what was that thing?? it sure looked like a snake to me... had to
> stand five feet away from the computer when i saw it (shivers)

It's what's called a slow worm which is not a true snake, rather a legless
lizard. My first cat Eliza caught one once, she didn't really know what to
do with it, but the sight of her bringing it thorugh the cat flap was
hilarious, like a big droopy mustache :-)

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Karen - 21 Jul 2004 20:30 GMT
> > what was that thing?? it sure looked like a snake to me... had to
> > stand five feet away from the computer when i saw it (shivers)
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> do with it, but the sight of her bringing it thorugh the cat flap was
> hilarious, like a big droopy mustache :-)

Never heard of such a thing. Bizarre.
Debbie Wilson - 22 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> It's what's called a slow worm which is not a true snake, rather a legless
> lizard. My first cat Eliza caught one once, she didn't really know what to
> do with it, but the sight of her bringing it thorugh the cat flap was
> hilarious, like a big droopy mustache :-)

LOL!! I didn't see Willow bring this one in, but she deposited it next
to my handbag and gave a very strange miaow, so I knew something was up.

Deb.
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Karen - 21 Jul 2004 18:54 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Deb :-)

It's not a snake?? Wow. Sure looks like one. How big was it?
Sherry - 21 Jul 2004 22:22 GMT
>> NB. it ISN'T a snake, but if you're really snake-phobic, probably best
>> not to look...
>>
>> Deb :-)

Gahh! You call that a worm? Where do you live, Texas?  ;-)

Sherry
John F. Eldredge - 21 Jul 2004 22:53 GMT
>>> NB. it ISN'T a snake, but if you're really snake-phobic, probably
>>> best not to look...
>>>
>>> Deb :-)
>
>Gahh! You call that a worm? Where do you live, Texas?  ;-)

A "slow worm" isn't a worm in the earthworm sense, but rather a
legless lizard (and no, I am not sure what distinguishes them from
snakes).  Historically speaking, snakes were once referred to as
"worms" as well.

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Nik Simpson - 21 Jul 2004 23:34 GMT
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> snakes).  Historically speaking, snakes were once referred to as
> "worms" as well.

Couple of things come immediately to mind...

A snake has a forked tongue, a lizard (legged or legless doesn't)

The vestigial legs on a legless lizard are a lot *less* vestigial than they
are on a snake.

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Debbie Wilson - 22 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> Gahh! You call that a worm? Where do you live, Texas?  ;-)

:-))) Sorry...  *beg*

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Debbie Wilson - 22 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> It's not a snake?? Wow. Sure looks like one. How big was it?

Cute, isn't it? It was actually tiny - its body is about the same size
around as a slender finger. We get all varieties of colours too - this
one was standard tawny brown but I've seen them quite reddish through to
slate grey, very beautfiul.

Deb.
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lrulan - 21 Jul 2004 20:15 GMT
oh my god. I didn't heed your warning and 'looked'. I an snake-phobic, and
now I wish I hadn't 'looked'.

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> Deb :-)
Sherry - 21 Jul 2004 22:23 GMT
>oh my god. I didn't heed your warning and 'looked'. I an snake-phobic, and
>now I wish I hadn't 'looked'.

Oh no! I didn't realize you felt that way. I think I've posted snake pics more
than once. I hope they were labeled as such!

Sherry
lrulan - 21 Jul 2004 22:51 GMT
Sherry, no need to apologize! I just hate snakes, hehe. Now, my
long-departed mother loved snakes!!! Go figure.
You did put a warning, but *I* did look, so it's not your fault. I'm just
silly that way. :)
Jazz's mama

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> >oh my god. I didn't heed your warning and 'looked'. I an snake-phobic, and
> >now I wish I hadn't 'looked'.
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> Sherry
Debbie Wilson - 22 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> oh my god. I didn't heed your warning and 'looked'. I an snake-phobic, and
> now I wish I hadn't 'looked'.

Sorry about that Irulan.... you defintely wouldn't like it here in that
case! On the other side of the room is a beautiful, but definitely
snake-y, Californian King Snake. Hours of entertainment for Bracken
though! He peers over the top of its tank like Kermit the Frog, watching
in fascination. ;-)

Deb.

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Gracecat - 21 Jul 2004 20:26 GMT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/281.shtml

She's right, it's a slow worm.

> Hi all,
>
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> "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
> He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield
Steve Touchstone - 22 Jul 2004 01:42 GMT
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/281.shtml
>
>She's right, it's a slow worm.
I googled slow worm and came up with the same site. Like some others,
I had never heard of them, but I guess because they are mainly
European (and a little into north west Asia). It doesn't look like we
have them here in the Americas. Sounds like the biggest difference is
the eyelids on the slow worm (and other legged lizards) while snakes
don't have them.
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Dhelderman - 22 Jul 2004 05:50 GMT
america doesn't have a slow worm but we have a worm snake that looks exactly
like the slow worm..

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> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/281.shtml
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> the eyelids on the slow worm (and other legged lizards) while snakes
> don't have them.
Cheryl - 22 Jul 2004 03:22 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "Gracecat"
<gracecat@bellsouth.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:2m7ubgFk5qr0U1@uni-berlin.de> on 21 Jul 2004:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/281.shtml
>
> She's right, it's a slow worm.

I just loved this line: "Slow worms have smooth and shiny snake-like
bodies with an indistinct head, and can be distinguished from snakes
by the presence of eyelids" You have to get a little too close to see
them, right? Mmmm, no. Not me. :O)

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Seanette Blaylock - 22 Jul 2004 01:06 GMT
debbie@zoobotanica.com (Debbie Wilson) had some very interesting
things to say about Willow's prize catch:

>Willow's last catch was a 5-legged cricket sometime back in 1997.

Got any pictures of this critter?

BTW, thanks for the heads-up on Willow's current trophy. I'm seriously
ophidiophobic, so gave the actual picture a pass :-). [I'm not quite
as bad as one poor gent in alt.recovery.clutter. He can't even type
the *word* "snake". He calls them "limbless things".]

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Debbie Wilson - 22 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> debbie@zoobotanica.com (Debbie Wilson) had some very interesting
> things to say about Willow's prize catch:
>
> >Willow's last catch was a 5-legged cricket sometime back in 1997.
>
> Got any pictures of this critter?

Unfortunately no - it was big and green, we get them fairly often in
summer. She was very proud :)

> BTW, thanks for the heads-up on Willow's current trophy. I'm seriously
> ophidiophobic, so gave the actual picture a pass :-). [I'm not quite
> as bad as one poor gent in alt.recovery.clutter. He can't even type
> the *word* "snake". He calls them "limbless things".]

Gosh - that *is* bad.
Glad I put the warning in - I almost didn't, as it isn't actually a
you-know-what, but then thought better...

Deb.
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Sam Nash - 22 Jul 2004 04:45 GMT
Ummm.  Looks like a snake to me.
Sam
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