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Cat Fountain - Spring Water - NOT!

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jmcquown - 21 Jul 2004 16:14 GMT
Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely apart and
clean it religiously once a week.  Get down to the nitty gritty with an old
toothbrush and even pipe cleaners for the tiny crevices in the flow control
valve.  Remove the whatchamacallit from the motor (looks like a propeller)
and clean that, too.

Last trip with John, we were given a case of spring water by another
exhibitor who said he found out he cannot abide spring water.  John gave me
several bottles to take back with me as the trip would involve a long
layover in Atlanta.  I had 2 bottles left.

Take it from me, the water in Memphis is just fine, thank you.  It comes
from a natural acquifer, plus I have a filter.  So I decided when I refilled
Persia's fountain a few days ago I would use some of this bottled water in
it.

Gotta tell you, it gunked up in days.  I had *just* cleaned it!  I took it
apart this morning and even the new charcoal *filter* was sort of like...
how can I describe it?  exploded and pink and slimy.  Normally you can wash
these filters and reuse them for several weeks.  This was just GROSS.

Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?

Jill
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TBird - 21 Jul 2004 16:20 GMT
> Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely apart and
> clean it religiously once a week.  Get down to the nitty gritty with an old
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>
> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?

Those are minerals (normally filtered out of our tap water) that are
actually good for us.  We just filter out so much stuff, the good goes out
with the bad.

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> Jill
Sherry - 21 Jul 2004 16:34 GMT
>> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?
>
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>
>TBird <---- hi

Yup. Our water has lots of minerals, too; and coffeemakers/tea makers don't
last long.

Sherry
Magic Mood Jeep? - 21 Jul 2004 16:58 GMT
Where I'm at, we've always had "hard" water: it has a LOT of minerals in it,
the most prevalent being lime (dissolved limestone - Empire State Building,
Washington Monument, Pentagon & most of the historic buildings in Washington
DC are made, or at least faced, with Limestone quarried in southern
Indiana).

The best thing to clear away lime & other mineral deposits is vinegar.  To
clean a mineral stained coffee pot, boil a water/vinegar solution (about
half & half) in it for a few minutes, then let it set for 1/2 hour or so,
then wash as normal.  To clean coffee/tea MAKERS, run a cup of straight
vinegar thru it (just like you were going to make coffee/tea, just don't add
the coffee/tea), then run a couple of times with distilled water.

Another thing: instead of using store bought "Jet Dry" or it's equivalent in
your automatic dishwasher, use vinegar!  Also use 1 cup vinegar in your
laundry, then your laundry detergent does a better job (it 'softens' the
water).

It may not smell as nice, but the acidic qualities of vinegar sure does cut
through that "hard" water.
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> >> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?
> >
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> Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 21 Jul 2004 20:53 GMT
> I decided when I refilled Persia's fountain a few days ago I would
> use some of this bottled water in it.
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>
> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?

Distilled water is the best for things like fountains - nothing in it
to gunk up. Probably that spring water was full of minerals.

Joyce
jmcquown - 21 Jul 2004 22:01 GMT
>  > I decided when I refilled Persia's fountain a few days ago I would
>  > use some of this bottled water in it.
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>
> Joyce

Thank you, Joyce.  I figure, if spring water gunks up the fountain that fast
it's gonna gunk *me* up, too!  Never understood the whole bottled water
thing, unless you live in an area where the water is simply unpalatable.  In
Memphis, it isn't.  And my water filter is only on the Britta pitcher, not
built-in.

As it is, I had to toss out the brand new fountain filter - it was
absolutely disgusting!  Then I only had one filter left so I had to order
more.  You know I'd go to Hell and back for my Persia, but being technically
unemployed it's getting expensive.  She may have to go without her fountain
in a few months :(  And, being single with no kids, *I* don't qualify for
squat in terms of benefits like food stamps. That's right, single
middle-aged suddenly unemployed people apparently don't need to eat. (sigh)

Jill
John F. Eldredge - 21 Jul 2004 22:49 GMT
>>  > I decided when I refilled Persia's fountain a few days ago I
>> would
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>middle-aged suddenly unemployed people apparently don't need to eat.
>(sigh)  

"Pink and slimy" sounds like a colony of some sort of bacteria was
living in the filter, probably liking the higher mineral content of
the spring water.  If the spring water bottle itself wasn't all
gunked up, this means that the contents of the bottle were probably
sterile.  I have a never-ending battle with what is probably the same
organism, growing in my bathroom sink.

When humans or animals drink water with dissolved minerals, our
kidneys are generally able to dispose of any minerals we don't need.
On the other hand, a fountain loses water via evaporation, so the
minerals accumulate in it.

I know what you mean about limited financial benefits for unemployed
single people.  I myself am single and underemployed (part-time since
February, and running pretty low on funds).  Don't forget to apply
for unemployment benefits, if you haven't done so already.

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Yowie - 22 Jul 2004 01:40 GMT
> >  > I decided when I refilled Persia's fountain a few days ago I would
> >  > use some of this bottled water in it.
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> Memphis, it isn't.  And my water filter is only on the Britta pitcher, not
> built-in.

Most non-electric "filters" won't take out the minerals, as they are
dissolved. What filters do take out are small undissolved solids (clays,
plant matter, etc), and possibly some of the bacteria if its a really good
filter. Some electric filters may work on reverse-osmosis and also remove
dissolved minerals, but I can't imagine them being affordable by as kitchen
appliances.

The minerals in spring water are actually quite good for you, and add a
sublte but interesting taste to the water. If you are looking for a bottled
water that won't gunk up stuff, look for ones that don't have high mineral
counts (I"m assuming that like us, you folk have the mineral assays printed
onthe bottle. Low Calcium and low Carbonates are probably most important for
the gunk factor.

Rain water is also quite nice, if you can get it.

Distilled water, with all the impurities taken out, tastes very flat and
dull.

> As it is, I had to toss out the brand new fountain filter - it was
> absolutely disgusting!  Then I only had one filter left so I had to order
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> squat in terms of benefits like food stamps. That's right, single
> middle-aged suddenly unemployed people apparently don't need to eat. (sigh)

Purrs for the job-hunting

Yowie
Sherry - 22 Jul 2004 03:00 GMT
>The minerals in spring water are actually quite good for you, and add a
>sublte but interesting taste to the water. If you are looking for a bottled
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>
>Rain water is also quite nice, if you can get it.

Oh wow, Yowie. You just jogged a memory I hadn't thought about since I was a
kid. My mom used to "catch" rainwater and save it. She used it in her iron. We
were pretty poor. She probably couldn't afford distilled water.
She also used to use it to rinse our hair. It always made it so soft and shiny.
Or we thought so, anyway.
Sherry
Jo Firey - 22 Jul 2004 03:32 GMT
> >The minerals in spring water are actually quite good for you, and add a
> >sublte but interesting taste to the water. If you are looking for a bottled
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> Or we thought so, anyway.
> Sherry

Nice memories.  Grandma and Grandpa has a rain barrel.  (I don't think
Grandma had a steam iron, but she likely sprinkled clothes with rainwater)
It wasn't so much that the rainwater made your hair soft and shiny.  But the
well water they had was so hard and so full of minerals it could change the
color of your hair.  And made it dull and stiff.  So it was rain water with
lemon juice for the blondes and rain water with vinegar for the brunettes.

Jo
Sherry - 22 Jul 2004 04:01 GMT
>Nice memories.  Grandma and Grandpa has a rain barrel.  (I don't think
>Grandma had a steam iron, but she likely sprinkled clothes with rainwater)
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>
>Jo

Yes! I'd forgotten that part. The rainwater had vinegar in it.

Sherry
Jo Firey - 22 Jul 2004 05:48 GMT
> >Nice memories.  Grandma and Grandpa has a rain barrel.  (I don't think
> >Grandma had a steam iron, but she likely sprinkled clothes with rainwater)
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>
> Sherry

We notice the big improvements in our lives like computers and cell phones,
but tend to forget things like the horrible excuses for shampoo that used to
be all that was available.  A little acid in the water helped to get the
soap all out.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 22 Jul 2004 02:01 GMT
> Thank you, Joyce.  I figure, if spring water gunks up the fountain
> that fast it's gonna gunk *me* up, too!

LOL. :) Fortunately, that's not quite true. Your body is more efficient
at dealing with the normal mineral content in water than some mechanical
device would be. In fact, your body needs some of those minerals! Not so
the device, which has no way of getting rid of them once they start to
build up.

Actually, I know someone who drinks only distilled water. She has a lot
of allergies and sensitivities, so I guess even the trace minerals in water
give her a rough time. Most people benefit from them, though - as long as
the worst of the pollutants have been filtered out.

> And, being single with no kids, *I* don't qualify for squat in terms
> of benefits like food stamps. That's right, single middle-aged suddenly
> unemployed people apparently don't need to eat. (sigh)

I'm sorry! That sucks. And I understand - I'm in the same boat: middle-
aged, unemployed, with no children. (Hey wait, no kids?? I have *3* mouths
to feed! :))

When I was in my 20s, I had a roommate who was on disability (SSI) and
she got food stamps. But that was in the 1970s - things have changed a
lot since then. :(

Joyce
William Hamblen - 22 Jul 2004 03:22 GMT
> Thank you, Joyce.  I figure, if spring water gunks up the fountain that fast
> it's gonna gunk *me* up, too!  Never understood the whole bottled water
> thing, unless you live in an area where the water is simply unpalatable.  In
> Memphis, it isn't.  And my water filter is only on the Britta pitcher, not
> built-in.

The minerals aren't going to gunk you up, unless your innards are made of
iron, but some bottled water is none too clean.  The sludge that grew in
your fountain might have been a mat of microorganisms.  Yuck.
William Hamblen - 22 Jul 2004 03:22 GMT
> Take it from me, the water in Memphis is just fine, thank you.  It comes
> from a natural acquifer, plus I have a filter.

Burgie Foods (are they still in business?) used to sell bottled "water
from artesian wells", which as all Memphians know, flows from every tap
in Memphis.
Duke of URL - 22 Jul 2004 03:34 GMT
> Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely
> apart and clean it religiously once a week.  Get down to the nitty
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>
> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?

Erm ... So's you can be trendy and fashionable and green and
anti-evil-capitalist-public-water-companies and classy?

I *am* a wee bit startled that the charcoal filter "exploded" - I don't
think I've ever heard of that before!
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jmcquown - 22 Jul 2004 05:32 GMT
>> Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely
>> apart and clean it religiously once a week.
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> I *am* a wee bit startled that the charcoal filter "exploded" - I
> don't think I've ever heard of that before!

You would have had to seen it to believe it.  It was only 4 days old, a new
filter, and it had swelled to twice the normal size, got all funky, pink and
slimy and I had to throw it out.  I gagged just removing it from the
fountain.  And as someone else suggested, I hope it wasn't 'infected'
because it came from a sealed foil packet.

Jill
Kim - 22 Jul 2004 13:23 GMT
I've been using spring water in Brio's fountain for months and have never
found it to be slimy. I clean it once a week.

Where I live (Ontario) the water is so chlorinated no way am I or my pets
drinking it... it's disgusting! I have a water cooler and buy spring water
... sometimes distilled for a change.

> Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely apart and
> clean it religiously once a week.  Get down to the nitty gritty with an old
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>
> Jill
Kim - 22 Jul 2004 13:24 GMT
actually, in thinking about this again, once Brio dropped a piece of food
into the water fountain, then the filter looked all yucky.

Maybe Persia had food in her mouth at the time she got a drink and the water
got contaminated.

> Persia has one of those Drinkwell fountains.  I take it completely apart and
> clean it religiously once a week.  Get down to the nitty gritty with an old
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>
> Jill
---MIKE--- - 22 Jul 2004 13:47 GMT
I gave up on my Drinkwell.  I used spring water (from a local free
spring) because my well water contains so much iron it would turn the
fountain brown in time.  In less than a week everything would gunk up.
I was advised that distilled water was not good for you - something
about it taking away minerals in the body.  I never saw the cats drink
from the fountain anyway.

                 ---MIKE---
jmcquown - 22 Jul 2004 19:23 GMT
> I gave up on my Drinkwell.  I used spring water (from a local free
> spring) because my well water contains so much iron it would turn the
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>
>                   ---MIKE---

Persia LOVES her fountain!  And I do clean it religiously, take it
completely apart, once a week.  The spring water just had a freaky effect on
it.  *Might* have been food dropped in the water but I didn't see evidence
of that.  The local tap water works so I'll stick with that :)

Jill
Steve Touchstone - 22 Jul 2004 17:10 GMT
>actually, in thinking about this again, once Brio dropped a piece of food
>into the water fountain, then the filter looked all yucky.
>
>Maybe Persia had food in her mouth at the time she got a drink and the water
>got contaminated.

Sounds entirely possible with my crew. I don't really now who it is
that dunks the dry food in the water, but it happens pretty regularly.
And, as I mentioned before, Sammy sometimes feels the need to wash her
toys, and for some reason I'd actually prefer her to use the water
bowl than the toilet like she has on occasion.
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Adrian - 22 Jul 2004 17:12 GMT
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> Someone please tell me again why we should drink bottled spring water?
>
> Jill

Personally I have never bought bottled water. I have to admire the
marketting companies who have managed to convince so many people that
it's better, and worth paying several hundred times the price of tap
water. The cats seam to prefer rain water, and that's free.:-)
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