The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
it hasn't spread to his lungs. An xray would determine if its gone to
the lungs. The operation would have to be done by a specialist and I was
told would be $1000 and would have to be done very soon. I didn't get to
talk to the main vet that did the biopsy operation but one of the vets
that fills in for her so I don't know what his chaces are if he has the
surgery.
Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
jmcquown - 18 Jul 2004 14:48 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am so sorry to hear this! You are in my thoughts.
Jill
Pat - 18 Jul 2004 15:15 GMT
How very sad for you. I hope Crackles is not in pain.
Victor Martinez - 18 Jul 2004 15:46 GMT
I am so very sorry to hear this. Hang in there! Let us know if we can
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Kreisleriana - 18 Jul 2004 16:08 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
>only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Of course you are. It is terribly sad. So sorry for you and your
dear kitty.
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hpickering@austin.rr.com - 18 Jul 2004 16:44 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
>only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am so sorry to hear this you and Crackles will be in my prayers.
Karen Chuplis - 18 Jul 2004 17:04 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I was afraid of this. Soooo sorry to hear it. It really did not sound good,
but you had to find out. My thoughts are with you and Crackles.
Karen
Adrian - 18 Jul 2004 17:36 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I'm so terribly sorry, poor Crackles. Sending purrs for you and her.

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Duke of URL - 18 Jul 2004 17:45 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Terribly sorry to hear it.

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Cheryl - 18 Jul 2004 18:46 GMT
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> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.
I am so very sorry to read this. Purrs for Crackles coming out.

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John F. Eldredge - 18 Jul 2004 19:12 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He
>has only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and
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>
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am so sorry to hear this.

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Steve Touchstone - 18 Jul 2004 19:45 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
>only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Drats, I was hoping for better news. It seems like the only good break
this guy ever got was your resuing him from his previous home (if you
can even call that horrible neighbor a home).

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Jul 2004 20:01 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Of course you are devastated, but perhaps you should stop and think of
what the cat would choose, if he could speak? You may remember I had to
make a similar decision last summer, when my Patches was put to sleep.
He had developed a skin cancer (I'm told white cats - especially outdoor
cats - are prone to such, as are fair-skinned humans). I have never
believed in putting an animal through the horrors of chemotherapy, etc.
(I don't REALLY believe in putting humans through it, either, but they
are at least able to weigh the factors and choose for themselves.)
Fortunately I was spared that decision, because he developed an apparent
respiratory infection which didn't respond to antibiotics, the
assumption was that the cancer had metasticized, and euthanasia was
really the only option (other than letting hinm suffer until he died of
"natural causes").
It's not just a matter of the expense - I know most of us are perfectly
willing to spend whatever is necessary to keep our cats healthy, whether
we can "afford" it or not. But if the ultimate prognosis is poor, and
the animal is being subjected to uncomfortable treatments that may or
may not work (and without being able to understand WHY it is being made
to suffer)..... It's a difficult decison, and I suspect we all feel
guilty when we make it, but animals accept death much more readily than
humans do - it is, after all, a natural part of existence, and they
don't carry all the intellectual baggage about it that we do.
Purrs and prayers for you and Crackles, whatever you decide to do. (I'm
sure you know that you have the support of all of us, most of whom have
outlived one or more of our furry companions.)
m. L. Briggs - 18 Jul 2004 20:43 GMT
>> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
>> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>sure you know that you have the support of all of us, most of whom have
> outlived one or more of our furry companions.)
You are so right. I remind myself occasionally that we cannot save
them all. Crackers cancer is so close to the brain that the prognosis
probably is poor. I hope he is not allowed to suffer. On the other
hand, think of what that thousand dollars could do for other needy
kitties. We all grieve for those we lost, but life goes on. Purrs
for all those needing comfort. MLB
JPHobbs - 19 Jul 2004 07:09 GMT
Yes in my 71 years I have outlived quite a few beloved cats, and dogs
and it doesn't get any easier! Purrs and Hugs for Crackles and youself
and my deepfelt sympathy. Jean.P.
> > The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> > only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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> sure you know that you have the support of all of us, most of whom have
> outlived one or more of our furry companions.)
lrulan - 18 Jul 2004 20:42 GMT
Pam, whatever you decide will be the right thing for Crackles. We will purr
and pray for him and for you.
Jazz & his mama

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> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Melissa Houle - 18 Jul 2004 21:00 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Entirely understandable. I'm so sorry you got bad news back. It's so hard
to balance the lives of the animals we love with other legitimate demands on
our time and finances. Give Crackles lots of love.
Melissa
Howard Berkowitz - 18 Jul 2004 22:44 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Purrs from Mr. Clark, Ding and Rhonda. It's terribly difficult to
manage the choices in cancer treatment -- I've had to do it with both
human and feline family.
Do you know the precise tumor type from the biopsy? I could search the
medical literature to see if there might be any alternatives being
developed for humans. It's a long shot -- when my Clifford (RB)
developed bladder cancer, there was an experimental treatment that had
been tested in dogs and was starting to go into human testing.
Unfortunately, while Clifford probably believed he was a dog, I couldn't
get him into a clinical trial.
Sam Nash - 18 Jul 2004 22:47 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Da*n! Awful news. Pain-relieving purrs on the way for Crackles and
comforting purrs for you to help you through this terrible time.
Sam
Dan M - 18 Jul 2004 23:04 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am *so* sorry! We'll be purring for Crackles and for you.
Dan
Yowie - 19 Jul 2004 00:05 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Oh no! I'm so sorry. Purrs for both you & Crackles.
Yowie
Yoj - 19 Jul 2004 00:14 GMT
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> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
P. Cox - 19 Jul 2004 06:09 GMT
He doesn't act as if he is any pain except when I need to clean the
operation wounds and only seems annoyed by the blood that weeps out of
the hole the vet left for drainage(it flows when he chews). The fill-in
vet kept asking me if he was eating or had trouble breathing, He eats
like a horse(a half can of wet food, an unending supply of cruchies, 7
of 8 cat treats(he gets 3 or 4 after each pill) and table scraps(he
loves mac and cheese and spagetti)) and breathes fine. And they seem
surprised that he is strong, it takes 3 of us to get him out of the
carrier at the vets office.
He loves to look out the window(he would like to be outside) and sits
with my mother while she uses the computer(tho doesn't sit with me when
I do). When he was outside, he was my gardening buddy, I'd pull weeds
and he would sit beside me.
If the operation would give him a good chance I'd be willing to try it
but moneywise I don't have it but if the specialist would be willing to
trade services or something(I do graphic design). I need to talk to the
vet before I make any kind of decision, if there is a big chance it
likely wouldn't work I wouldn't do it and if the specialist isn't
willing to trade I couldn't do it anyway. A specialist needs brochures
and such don't ya think?
I've got to call the vet tomorrow anyway cause I think he needs a
stronger antibiotic, he smells infectiony somewhere(maybe in the ear, I
don't think it is the operation wounds).
I'd want to thank everyone again for all your help and good thoughts. If
anyone has any advice please post it.
This is my 3rd sick cat in a year and a half biggers and orangie didn't
make it. Biggers was a stray I got in college and she died in the night
of a stroke while we were battling thyroid problems and Orangie, a young
cat, she stole my heart she was such a sweetie, came from the same awful
neighbor as Crackles, she died of unknown neuralogical problems the vet
couldn't pin down. Within that same timeframe my mother put 2 of her
cats to sleep so they wouldn't suffer anymore, tiggy had a congenial
heart problem that caused his chest to fill up with fluid and
Longhair(the family cat from my childhood) a 21 year old cat had
multiple strokes and could no longer stand, walk, or potty by himself.
Its too many cats in such a short time. p
Debbie Wilson - 19 Jul 2004 08:22 GMT
So very sorry to hear the news about Crackles after all you and he have
been through already. :-(
(snip)
> If the operation would give him a good chance I'd be willing to try it
> but moneywise I don't have it but if the specialist would be willing to
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> willing to trade I couldn't do it anyway. A specialist needs brochures
> and such don't ya think?
Definitely worth a try!! I'm also a graphic designer/illustrator and
have done jobs for several surgeons & specialist (human, not animal) in
the past, all of which were privately funded. For example, I've done
personal stationery (letterhead, comps slips, business card), personal
brochure advertising their services to clients, brochure describing
illnesses for their patients, doctor's surgery brochure, colour charts
showing anatomy etc. Take your professional portfolio with you when you
make the suggestion or he won't take you seriously. Make a list of the
usual prices he would expect to pay for these services. Don't forget, it
won't just be his time/expertise that you must cover, but the facilities
belonging to the vet hospital where he will operate (if it comes to it)
plus drugs etc, so it may be more than one person that needs paying.
Just my £0.02. I hope you find a solution that is the best for Crackles
and you.
Purrs
Deb.

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P. Cox - 19 Jul 2004 09:35 GMT
Thanks Deb, I hope I find the specialist in need of some design work. I
approached the vet about it when Orangie got sick but she said she is so
busy now she doesn't need anything. I will say she almost always has a
waiting room full. There isn't many vets in this area so I guess a
phonebook ad gets them all the business they can handle. I hope
specialists are in need of materials, I was thinking of brochures to
explain procedures and illnesses and such. I could make him a whole
series and not care if he gets the better end of the deal if he could
help crackles.
I'm not sure about what values to present tho, I've only worked in an
Inhouse graphics department before so we didn't have to deal with
billing or anything. Any Suggestions? p
Debbie Wilson - 19 Jul 2004 11:17 GMT
(snip)
> I hope
> specialists are in need of materials, I was thinking of brochures to
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> Inhouse graphics department before so we didn't have to deal with
> billing or anything. Any Suggestions? p
Certainly human specialists usually like having brochures - or
factsheets, etc. You could even ask if he has a website - perhaps he
could do with some images or logos for that. Do you do website design?
Websites are expensive and if you are prepared to do a nice one for him
for free (and/or the vet hospital), that is a fair deal.
Re. pricing, it's very individual and as I'm in the UK it may not be
comparable. You can get really cheap one-color tri-fold brochures done
by your local copy shop, or you can pay mega bucks and get a specialist
design agency to do a full colour job to your exact specifications. I
did a quick web search and prices seem to range from $40 to $175 per
hour. A few online services charge around $300 for a set number of
brochures including printing, but I guess the design you get for that
prices wouldn't be that special. Other companies charge $400 per page!!
I recently charged £150 (around $280) for a set of letterheads, comps
slips and business cards, including design of company logo, but that was
for a friend and it was very much cut-price! Should probably have been
2-3 times more than that commercially.
Of course you don't want to pay for printing so he would have to pay for
that - unless you run off a set number on your home printer, or design
it so it can be copied in-house or printed on his own PC.
I would think the first hurdle is to see if Crackles can have the
surgery at all, or if it isn't an option. If he can, and if the vet is
interested in the idea of payment in kind, then you can discuss what he
might want and what you can do. I would think a series of illustrated
fact sheets for pet owners should be attractive to any decent
specialist, and maybe he will be prepared to copy them in-house for free
(if grayscale) or print out a dozen at a time on a home PC (if colour).
Maybe add in the offer of personalised stationery design for him as
well, and a logo/business card - again that can be printed on a home PC
setup using the pre-cut blank cards, I would think most professionals
would like to have that. As you say, be prepared to give quite a bit
more than you receive, so to speak - if he is prepared to go along with
it, it's definitely worth it if Crackles can benefit from the operation.
Hope this helps -
Deb.

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KLC - 19 Jul 2004 15:55 GMT
Hugs & purrs for you, Crackles, and everyone involved.
I guess you must be heartsick over this, and feeling weary of the emotions.
Our chaplain at the cancer centre used to say that everyone's life is a
complete story, but only God knows how long each story will be.
Love to you,
KLC
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> This is my 3rd sick cat in a year and a half
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> Its too many cats in such a short time. p
polonca12000 - 20 Jul 2004 16:20 GMT
This really is so hard. I do so wish there was something I could do.
Lots and lots of hugs,

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Susan M - 19 Jul 2004 05:20 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am so sorry to hear this. You and Crackles are in my thoughts.
Susan M
Otis and Chester
LOL - 19 Jul 2004 06:10 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am very sorry to read this; like everyone else, I was hoping for
better news. We are sending you and Crackles our best purrs, for
peace for both of you with whatever comes next.
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JBHajos - 19 Jul 2004 14:37 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.
I'm really, truly sorry to hear this. Hoped with all my heart
Crackles would be OK.
I would be happy to contribute more to the vet bill if needed.
Please keep us updated.
Jeanne
SUQKRT - 19 Jul 2004 18:12 GMT
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I'm sooo sorry purrs for you and Crackles.
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Tanada - 20 Jul 2004 02:19 GMT
> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.
Purrs and healthy thoughts and wishes going out to you and Crackles from
all of us here. We HATE cancer.
Pam, Rob, and the NC seven
polonca12000 - 20 Jul 2004 16:14 GMT
I'm so very sorry to hear this.
Hugs,

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> The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
> only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
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>
> Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 20 Jul 2004 20:15 GMT
>The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer. He has
>only one option which is a very expensive surgery on his ear and only if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.
I am so sorry to hear this :-(
Sending purrs for you and Crackles.
Ginger-lyn
P. Cox - 22 Jul 2004 18:17 GMT
I talked to the regular vet, I have more sad news. Crackles isn't a good
canidate for the surgery, tho if he was a dog with the same thing he
might be. They'd have to take too much surrounding tissues to assure of
getting it all.
She perscribed prednazone(sp?) for inflamation and he still needs his
antibiotics eveyday. He had his first prednazone yesterday and it seems
to have helped already with the swelling in the cheek. He got his
stitches out today and now is hiding in the storage room...opps take
that back he just walked in front of me to the food bowl. She said as
long as he is eating and breathing fine he is doing fine and I just need
to keep a close eye for any changes.
She says all of y'all are "good people" for helping Crackles and I
gotta agree. p
Karen - 22 Jul 2004 18:38 GMT
Poor baby. Just try to give him lots o' love now.
> I talked to the regular vet, I have more sad news. Crackles isn't a good
> canidate for the surgery, tho if he was a dog with the same thing he
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> She says all of y'all are "good people" for helping Crackles and I
> gotta agree. p