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HELP! Stinky in the paint
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Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2004 14:34 GMT Well, he did it. He got into the paint. Actually, he went and jumped up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white pawprints all over.
So here's where I need help! How do I safely get the paint off him? Turpentine seems too harsh, and even assuming he'd stay still for it, I'm worried he would absorb it through his skin. But I don't want him cleaning his fur himself, and ingesting the paint! Any brilliant ideas?
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TBird - 15 Jul 2004 14:38 GMT Call your vet?
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> Well, he did it. He got into the paint. Actually, he went and jumped > up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Karen - 15 Jul 2004 14:38 GMT Is it oil based? If not, soap and water should do it. Maybe give the vet a call. I bet it happens all the time.
> Well, he did it. He got into the paint. Actually, he went and jumped > up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2004 15:05 GMT >Well, he did it. He got into the paint. Actually, he went and jumped >up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got >it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white pawprints all >over. OK, fortunately the paint is water-based, so I took the little butthead into the bathroom, and scrubbed his paws with soap and water while he screamed and threatened me with Amnesty International. The ironic thing is, he was walking happily around with the gunk on his paws, leaving footprints all over, but now I'M getting the Eye of Death for what I'VE done to him. :P
Thanks for your suggestions. I was just hoping I woulnd't have to lock him in the bathroom, but that's that. He's so busy cleaning himself now anyway (and cursing kitty curses under his breath), he probably won't even notice.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Jul 2004 22:16 GMT > OK, fortunately the paint is water-based, so I took the little > butthead into the bathroom, and scrubbed his paws with soap and water > while he screamed and threatened me with Amnesty International. The > ironic thing is, he was walking happily around with the gunk on his > paws, leaving footprints all over, but now I'M getting the Eye of > Death for what I'VE done to him. :P LOL! I'm glad it was water-based paint - much, much easier to deal with.
My question now: are you going to leave the little kitty-prints where they are, as decor? :)
Joyce
Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2004 23:19 GMT > > OK, fortunately the paint is water-based, so I took the little > > butthead into the bathroom, and scrubbed his paws with soap and water [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Joyce Oh of course, that's it! He's been watching those decorating shows on TV, and he just wanted to try it himself. :P
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Jul 2004 02:11 GMT >>My question now: are you going to leave the little kitty-prints where >>they are, as decor? :)
> Oh of course, that's it! He's been watching those decorating shows on > TV, and he just wanted to try it himself. :P Yes, but *are you going to keep* his fine touches? :) On the one hand, it probably looks like a mess. But on the other, you'd get to have these little white kitty prints - might be kind of cute.
Joyce
JPHobbs - 16 Jul 2004 13:43 GMT Iused to have a cat that looked like that, one day we found a white rabbit or at least the dog next door did, we couldn't find the owner so we took it in never had it in a cage, the cat made a mate of it and they ran around the garden and the house together Jean.P.
> > > OK, fortunately the paint is water-based, so I took the little > > > butthead into the bathroom, and scrubbed his paws with soap and water [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ polonca12000 - 18 Jul 2004 21:41 GMT So glad you found a solution - even though Stinky isn't too pleased with it ;) Best wishes,
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> OK, fortunately the paint is water-based, so I took the little > butthead into the bathroom, and scrubbed his paws with soap and water > while he screamed and threatened me with Amnesty International. <snip Victor Martinez - 15 Jul 2004 15:34 GMT > up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got > it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white pawprints all > over. We had purple pawprints all over the house when we were painting the crown molding for the dining room...
> So here's where I need help! How do I safely get the paint off him? What kind of paint is it? When Luna (or was it Maya?) got the pain on her paws, we just washed off as much as we could with plain water. I think our paint was latex though, so it's water soluble.
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Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2004 19:19 GMT >> up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got >> it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white pawprints all [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >her paws, we just washed off as much as we could with plain water. I >think our paint was latex though, so it's water soluble. Yes, fortunately that was the case. Sometimes I wish I had a shy, timid cat! ;)
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Yowie - 15 Jul 2004 22:42 GMT > >> up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. He got > >> it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white pawprints all [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Yes, fortunately that was the case. Sometimes I wish I had a shy, > timid cat! ;) A bit late now, so I'm glad you've got the paint off. If he tried to lick it off, it would be far more dangerous wet than dry, assuming its decorative paint and not some sort of anti-corrosive or primer. Once its dried, its effectively the same as small bits of plastic, which while not *good* for you, would most likely be fairly harmless (if however its a primer, or anti corrosive, the pigments could still be somewhat active and thats a different story - particularly if it contains chromates which are highly poisonous)
Any bits that are still stuck in his fur, I'd cut out, rather than leaving it to Stinky to lick out, but a very small amount of dry stuff shouldn't do too much harm.
Yowie (paint chemist)
John F. Eldredge - 16 Jul 2004 18:56 GMT >> >> up on his favorite windowsill while the paint was still wet. >> >> He got it on his paws, his butt and tail, and made little white [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Yowie (paint chemist) I know that the pigments used in most paints are toxic metallic compounds. I take it that the relative safeness of dried paint is because the binding compounds, such as the latex in latex paint, are fairly inert once they dry, so that if an animal eats the paint chips they will pass through without being digested. For future reference, are there any varieties of house paint, in addition to the primer and anti-corrosive paints you mentioned, that are particularly risky to pets even after the paint dries?
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Yowie - 17 Jul 2004 23:04 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > anti-corrosive paints you mentioned, that are particularly risky to > pets even after the paint dries? Not that I'd recommend eating house paint, and remember I'm not a toxicologist (and definatley not a *cat* toxicologist), merely someone who mucks about with paint for a living, I'd say most housepaints are *relatively* safe for if accidently digested, once dried. The reason being that even with relatively toxic componants, the binder surrounds them and effectively seals them off to any sort of biological activity. It would be approximatley equivalent to a pet eating the equivalent weight (and shape) in plastic, in that in most lieklyhood it will just pass through with no harm done.
Paints for outside would most likely be more dangerous as they'd have the "ceramic" pigments (metal oxides) as "ceramic" pigments don't fade in the sun. But these are still surrounded by the binder, and arne't likely to be highly available to biological process (the pigments used tend to be non-soluble, so can't be biologically active).
Paints for internal decoration would generally contain almost exclusively titanium dioxide, which is pretty much biologically inert, plus a *tiny* amount of organic dye to give it the colour. Most coloured dyes, whilst being (mildly) toxic in their pure form, won't be able to work their way out of the surrounding binder in suffecient quantaties to do too much damage, and aren't generally all that toxic in the amounts that would get out.
Even lead-based paints (which I gather are no longer available anyway) became far more dangerous when they started to get old, and the binder started to degrade (ie, the paint lost its gloss and started to go "powdery") because then the pigment was directly exposed without a coating of polymer to protect it.
The toxicity of paint is dependant on how much of the bad stuff can actually get out of the paint within the time it is going through the system. A big chip of paint is less toxic than the same weight in little chips, becaue of the icrease in surface area, a less toxic pigment could cause more problems than a more toxic one if the binder used on the less toxic one is more permeable to digestive juices than the one used with the more toxic pigment etc etc. As decorative housepaints are not designed to have any component to be chemically active after it dries (in fact, its designed to be *inert* as possible) getting seriously poisoned by just a "nibble" would, IMHO, be quite difficult. (Primers and anti-corrosives[1] are different, because they are designed to be chemically active)
The general upshot being that dried, modern, decorative housepaint shouldn't be fatal to a cat thats just had a small nibble, but you'd be darn stupid *not* to take your cat to a vet immediatly if you suspected that they had eaten *any* type of paint.
Hope that helps someone,
Yowie [1] My main work is with anti-corrosive primers for metals. Its a fine balance with a primer to allow the active ingredient to be available enough to stop the metal form corroding but not be so available that it washes out before it does its job and/or comes out in such quantiaties as to be toxic to humans and other lifeforms. Ideally, you need a pigment that is only *just* soluble in water *and* stops corrosion, *and* isn't toxic in the quantaties needed to be effective, *and* that does't cost the earth. So far, one hasn't been found that meets all four requirements. Which is why I have a job :-)
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