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Sherry - 13 Jul 2004 00:05 GMT Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples and pears. I was thinking. We buy trail mix stuff to feed the squirrels in the winter, and wondered why I can't just preserve some of this surplus and make my own. I can get plenty of raw uncleaned peanuts free from any of the peanut farmers around here in Nov. to add to the fruit. Trail mix is expensive. I was just wondering if this would work instead.
Thanks.. Sherry
Nan - 13 Jul 2004 00:41 GMT >Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? >We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks.. >Sherry You may want to rethink oven drying fruit. It can take from 6 to 48 hours at 200 degrees, depending on the kind of fruit . According to http://www.logicsouth.com/~lcoble/jg/dehydra/dryfruit.html grapes can take 24 to 48 hours to dry.
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Karen Chuplis - 13 Jul 2004 00:55 GMT >> Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? >> We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > A wise man talks because he has something to say; > a fool talks because he has to say something. You could make a small investment:
http://www.everythingkitchens.com/fooddehydrators.html
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Jul 2004 03:14 GMT > You may want to rethink oven drying fruit. It can take from 6 to 48 > hours at 200 degrees, depending on the kind of fruit . According to > http://www.logicsouth.com/~lcoble/jg/dehydra/dryfruit.html grapes can > take 24 to 48 hours to dry. Perhaps she could dry it in the sun for a while, first? I may be confused, but I thought Sherry was one of our members who live in the (semi-desert) Southwest.
> Nan > -- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > A wise man talks because he has something to say; > a fool talks because he has to say something. Karen Chuplis - 13 Jul 2004 00:52 GMT > Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? > We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks.. > Sherry Here's a site with good detail. I think that is a great idea!
http://farmgal.tripod.com/Dehydrate.html
Victor Martinez - 13 Jul 2004 03:22 GMT > http://farmgal.tripod.com/Dehydrate.html "Sun Drying This is rather difficult because you need three to four sunny days of at least 100 degrees in a row".
Ahem. Two years ago we had over 35 days in a row of over 100 degrees! (that's 38 degrees C)
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Sherry - 13 Jul 2004 04:01 GMT >"Sun Drying This is rather difficult because you need three to four >sunny days of at least 100 degrees in a row". > >Ahem. Two years ago we had over 35 days in a row of over 100 degrees! >(that's 38 degrees C) Well, three to four days of 100+ shouldn't be a problem at all, especially in 10 days when the peaches will be ready. The pears and apples won't be ripe till late August, and the 100+ shouldnt be a problem then either. I think I'll try the sun drying thing. After all, it's squirrel / woodpecker food. Maybe they won't mind a few ants. :-) Just so they don't spoil, it sounds like they can be put in jars and stacked in the freezer after dehydration till they're ready to feed. Yowie, wish I could teleport you all this stuff. We've got too much and I just hate to see it waste. But we'll have some really fat squirrels. Thanks everybody!
Sherry Sherry
John F. Eldredge - 13 Jul 2004 05:58 GMT >>"Sun Drying This is rather difficult because you need three to four >> sunny days of at least 100 degrees in a row". [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >But we'll have some really fat squirrels. >Thanks everybody! Also, there are plans available on the Net for solar food dryers, basically a flat wooden box with a glass face and vent holes to let the moist air out. You could even spread the fruit on a tray, then leave it in a car with the windows rolled most of the way up. The only question with the latter technique is whether it might get too hot, and cook the fruit rather than simply drying it.
Incidentally, don't ever leave whole fruit in the car in the summer time with the windows closed. I once accidentally did that with an apple; in the course of 8 hours, it went from slightly green to so overripe that it was melting into the upholstery.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Jul 2004 04:21 GMT >> http://farmgal.tripod.com/Dehydrate.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ahem. Two years ago we had over 35 days in a row of over 100 degrees! > (that's 38 degrees C) Even in Los Angeles we get weeks at a stretch with temps of over 100F, and the L. A. basin is only SEMI-desert! (And they don't call it "sunny California" for no reason.)
Yowie - 14 Jul 2004 06:19 GMT > >> http://farmgal.tripod.com/Dehydrate.html > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and the L. A. basin is only SEMI-desert! (And they don't call it "sunny > California" for no reason.) The most important aspect of the dehydration process is not the temperature but the humidity. You need to get the air dry enough so that the fruit dry before they rot (or cook or otherwise decay). Hot air has a much higher capacity for water than cold air, and therefore the dehydration process is quicker but even in very very cold air, you can still de-hydrate something perfectly well (indeed, freeze drying preserves more of the flavour)
Having a cotnainer thats over 100F isn't going to dehydrate fruit if the humidity isn't low enough in there or if the moisture from the drying fruit isn't removed somehow.
Yowie
Jo Firey - 13 Jul 2004 01:15 GMT > Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? > We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks.. > Sherry Drying fruit for the squirrels - great idea. Doing it in the oven - bad idea.
Due to cost of running the oven that long, heating up the house in the summer, running up the cost of running the air conditioner, etc.
We had a dryer till just recently that my father in law made using light bulbs, a thermostat, and window screen in a plywood box. And we ran it out in the garage in the fall to make apple leather, and flavored apple leather. But I think the dehydrators you can buy now are pretty inexpensive.
Got anyplace you can harvest cheap or free sunflower seed? They like those too.
Jo
Yowie - 13 Jul 2004 01:33 GMT > Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? > We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > farmers around here in Nov. to add to the fruit. > Trail mix is expensive. I was just wondering if this would work instead. Clean the fruit well. De-core, pip or stone, and cut into slices if necessary (if the fruit is more than say, half an inch thick, you'll need to slice it for it to dry properly)
Put on a wire rack, and place into an oven with absolute minimum heat. Leave the oven door open a crack. IIRC, it takes 5-10 hours depending ont he type of fruit and how dry you want it, so you may want to leave it overnight or experiment.
You could also crystallise the stuff, or make "canned" fruit, or make jam, or, for the kids, somewhat dehydrate the fruit till its the consistancy of prunes, then wizz it in a food processor, spread it out on some greased greasproof paper, and dry some more in the oven, then cut into fancy shapes (or squares if you don't have a fancy cutter). Great novelty snack. Some fruit can also be dried by salting, lemons are good, you get lemon salt (good for fish and other dishes), or you could pickle them in alcohol and make flavoured brandies / whiskies (brandied apricots are a wonderful Christimas gift, the Apricots are yummy, and so is the liquer afterwards. Don't forget to sweeten the brandy though). If you've got fruit to waste,. you may even want to try your hand at making some exotic wines. Strawberry wine is incredible. Or fruit chutneys (yum). There is also freezing as well, but that renders the fruit good for cooking only, as the cells explode, and make sthe fruit mooshy. Icecreams and yoghurts are another option.
Oooh, I"m jealous!
Yowie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Jul 2004 03:13 GMT > Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? > We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > farmers around here in Nov. to add to the fruit. > Trail mix is expensive. I was just wondering if this would work instead. You can buy dehydrator gadgets that do not cost very much. You can certainly do it in the oven, slowly at VERY low heat. I wonder if it would be possible to do it in a microwave - you can certainly roast nuts in one, my first microwave cookbook had directions.
> Thanks.. > Sherry Karen Chuplis - 13 Jul 2004 03:43 GMT >> Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? >> We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> Thanks.. >> Sherry You know, I think I have seen a certain kind of try *for* the microwave. Hmmm. Have to google that.
Kreisleriana - 13 Jul 2004 05:50 GMT >Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? >We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks.. >Sherry Well, you know, I just bop them under the radiator. ;) Love, Stinky
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Sherry - 13 Jul 2004 14:31 GMT >Well, you know, I just bop them under the radiator. ;) >Love, >Stinky Oh Stinky. You are such a thoughtful cat to provide food for the less fortunate little mousies.
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 13 Jul 2004 15:18 GMT >>Well, you know, I just bop them under the radiator. ;) >>Love, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Sherry Fat mousies run slower :P
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CK - 13 Jul 2004 19:16 GMT Like Yowie suggested you can make your own jams, jellies, chutneys, snacks, wines etc. out of all that fruit too. Here's one of my "old faithful" links where you might want to try out the recipes under the headers Canning & Preserving, Chutneys, Relishes, Snacks, Jams & Jellies etc. or you can do a search with the name of the fruit in question and get all kinds of recipes containing that fruit. http://www.recipesource.com/
AFAIK the recipes have all at one time or another been submitted by "ordinary people", partly gathered from recipe newsgroups and partly submitted directly to the site. See more details under the header About Us on the left hand side.
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Sherry - 13 Jul 2004 19:48 GMT >Like Yowie suggested you can make your own jams, jellies, chutneys, >snacks, wines etc. out of all that fruit too. Here's one of my "old [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >submitted directly to the site. See more details under the header About >Us on the left hand side. Thanks Christine. We have sooo much canned / frozen fruit and jelly/jam/juice left over from last year. But there's some very intresting stuff on that link, different things Ive never tried. There's enough for us, the neighbors, AND the squirrels, for sure. A real bumper crop.
Yowie - 14 Jul 2004 00:05 GMT > >Like Yowie suggested you can make your own jams, jellies, chutneys, > >snacks, wines etc. out of all that fruit too. Here's one of my "old [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > different things Ive never tried. There's enough for us, the neighbors, AND the > squirrels, for sure. A real bumper crop. If it really gets too much, I'm sure that charities and such would be happy to take it and re-sell it and/or feed the ones they care for.
Ever thought of a road-side stall?
Yowie
Sherry - 14 Jul 2004 03:08 GMT >If it really gets too much, I'm sure that charities and such would be happy >to take it and re-sell it and/or feed the ones they care for. > >Ever thought of a road-side stall? LOL, Been There, Done That, and almost ended up in Divorce Court. It was DH's big fat idea. He planted sixty acres in watermelons alone, and I forget how much other produce. It was the hardest work I ever got myself into. We made eleven thousand dollars. We sold roadside, peddled to grocery stores and loaded semi trailer trucks in the field. But I could write a book about that summer. That was the money we used to start building this house, and the house is 23 years old now, so it was a long time ago.
Sherry
>Yowie m. L. Briggs - 13 Jul 2004 23:11 GMT >Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the oven? >We are covered up with white grapes, peaches and blackberries and soon apples [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks.. >Sherry Over 20 odd years ago, I threw caution to the wind and bought a small dehydrator. I wanted to make dried bananas for my youngest grandson, who loved them. It worked fine, but took a lot of time. The smell of drying bananas permeated the wole house. I dried some other things too. But it was an awfullot of work for such a small amount of produce. I eventually told that if he wanted dried bananas he would have to do it himself and he accepted the dryer eagerly. He did it once -- never heard what became of the dryer. MLB
Howard Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2004 00:30 GMT > >Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the > >oven? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > have to do it himself and he accepted the dryer eagerly. He did it > once -- never heard what became of the dryer. MLB Results vary. My large Excalibur dehydrator was not cheap, but turns out spectacular dried tomatoes, yogurt chewies, dried vegetable purees for cooking (powdered celery with milk is an excellent white sauce), fruit, and dried broccoli (which I find a pleasant alternative to potato chips).
Karen Chuplis - 14 Jul 2004 02:07 GMT >>> Sorry for the OT; but does anybody know how to dehydrate fruit in the >>> oven? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > cooking (powdered celery with milk is an excellent white sauce), fruit, > and dried broccoli (which I find a pleasant alternative to potato chips). Dried broccoli, huh? I'm a big veggie eater, but I don't know about that.
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