Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
collar.
I did not steal my neighbors cat, although the little thing really wanted to
be mine. I knew where he belonged, and while I'm personally not an advocate
of outside kitties, some folks are and that's up to them. I have in the
past had an outdoor kitty, Franny, and she was more than capable of handling
all 7 pounds of herself. But even Franny knew when not to be outside, and
when we moved from Mass. to Colorado, she made herself an indoor kitty.
So, back to the neighbors cat. I did not steal him, though he wanted me
too. In the end, I probably should have stolen him. One day, what was left
of him was found in the manicured field in the middle of a suburban
neighborhood, and found by small children at that. His collar was returned
to these neighbors.
Now - we KNOW there are foxes in the area, and maybe coyotes. We can hear
them, we can see them. These people now had first hand experience of what
happens to outdoor kitties in that neighborhood. Which, of course caused
them to go right back out and get another kitty and let it out. ARGH.
Okay fine. I didn't steal that one either. My neighbor from the Audubon
Society did put a flier in their mailbox on why kitties should be kept as
indoor pets.
That Audubon neighbor also took note of yet another cat, obviously young,
laying in the middle of the street (thank god we were on a quiet circle).
He was out there for several days, and then one day she opened her door and
the kitty dashed in at top speed. She's allergic, so she sent her daughter
over to my house with the cat, and before I could open my mouth, my kids had
named him Joe Kitty. (I think I have told this story already.)
Anyway - I put in only a half hearted attempt to find if he had owners. He
was not chipped and had no collar and was out where there were foxes. A
couple of posters out, called the Humane Society, and then let it go.
Stolen kitty.
Then we moved up here to 6 acres of land including a barn and two horses.
And way more coyotes, I've seen them come up to the house. We also have
barn mice, and thought about making these two into barn cats, and when we
got finished laughing we realized how stupid *that* would be. (Joe has been
known to get "trapped" in a paper bag, I don't think he live in the wild
more than about 2 hours.)
This year, we had a bazillion and a half mice in the barn. In the past, the
neighbors had outside cats that took care of this, but they seem to have
been coyote-ized and we never saw them again. So we resorted to mice traps.
(Animal cruelty my a.s, ever been bitten by a mouse?)
Just now, I went to bring the horses in and was pleasantly surprised to
find... *a barn cat*!!! WAHOOOO! A gorgeous calico medium hair feral.
S/he was terrified of me, did not respond to trills at all, and ran at the
earliest opportunity. I put out a bowl of water - it's going to be 98F here
today. I'm so excited! Another cat, and a mouse catcher! I'm so excited!
I'm gonna work on stealing this cat, wherever s/he came from. Gonna lure
the cat with fresh water and maybe a cozy nest.
I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. Because I know that A) cats
pick their own humans, and B) I take really good care of the cats in my
life. So there. I confess. And you can't stop me.
TBird <--- cat thief
Dan M - 10 Jul 2004 16:35 GMT
> I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. Because I know that A) cats
> pick their own humans, and B) I take really good care of the cats in my
> life. So there. I confess. And you can't stop me.
>
> TBird <--- cat thief
Sounds to me like it's more a case of giving a homeless stray a home.
There's sure nothing wrong with that!
Karen Chuplis - 10 Jul 2004 16:37 GMT
> Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
> version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
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>
> TBird <--- cat thief
You could put out a leeetle bit of catfood for the extra nutrients, but not
enough to keep from catching mice, eh? I don't know nothin' about barn cats,
Miz Scarlett. Maybe that's a nono. Still, I hope kitty takes up barn
residence and is not coyoteized. Can't you put lion dung around or something
to reduce the possibility of coyotes?
MaryL - 10 Jul 2004 17:41 GMT
> > Just now, I went to bring the horses in and was pleasantly surprised to
> > find... *a barn cat*!!! WAHOOOO! A gorgeous calico medium hair feral.
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> residence and is not coyoteized. Can't you put lion dung around or something
> to reduce the possibility of coyotes?
Yes, barn cats *need* to be well fed. This will not interfere with their
mousing habits at all. Cats don't chase mice just for food. For example,
have you ever seen a pampered indoor cat take off like a shot if a mouse
gets inside? My grandfather was a farmer. He always had barn cats, always
fed them just as if they were indoor cats (which farmers in "those days"
never kept), and they were great mousers.
MaryL
Sherry - 10 Jul 2004 18:04 GMT
My grandfather was a farmer. He always had barn cats, always
>fed them just as if they were indoor cats (which farmers in "those days"
>never kept), and they were great mousers.
>
>MaryL
I don't remember my grandfather feeding the barn cats. I do remember, very
vividly, how they would line up when he milked the cows and he'd squirt milk at
their mouths. Then when he was done they got a bowl.
Sherry
MaryL - 10 Jul 2004 18:40 GMT
> My grandfather was a farmer. He always had barn cats, always
> >fed them just as if they were indoor cats (which farmers in "those days"
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>
> Sherry
Same here (squirting milk at cats' mouths, that is). That is one of my most
vivid childhood memories.
MaryL
Rebecca Tufts - 11 Jul 2004 03:05 GMT
I have barn cats, two, and they get a little bit of cat food, and some goat
milk.
Rebecca
Sherry - 10 Jul 2004 18:03 GMT
>You could put out a leeetle bit of catfood for the extra nutrients, but not
>enough to keep from catching mice, eh? I don't know nothin' about barn cats,
>Miz Scarlett. Maybe that's a nono. Still, I hope kitty takes up barn
>residence and is not coyoteized. Can't you put lion dung around or something
>to reduce the possibility of coyotes?
I got four feral cats several years ago for barn cats. We have coyotes, too,
but after all this time, I still have three of them. They get fed everyday, and
it doesn't stop them from catching rodents. They *must* be doing their job,
because before we got them there were rats running across the rafters in broad
daylight. Haven't seen a sign of once since they've been in there.
They still don't let me come near them. I've never named them, or gotten
emotionally attached to them, which is weird for me. I didn't think they'd last
this long. The H.S. here euthanizes ferals, no exceptions. I figured they'd at
least have a chance, even if they ended up to be coyote meat. I think their
wariness (is that a word?) has helped them survive. I don't think it's good to
have tame cats as barn cats. Barn cats ought not to trust anything or anybody,
for their own survival. Just MHO.
Sherry
Sherry
m. L. Briggs - 10 Jul 2004 17:28 GMT
>Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
>version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
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>
>TBird <--- cat thief
Good on you!
Yoj - 10 Jul 2004 19:36 GMT
> Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
> version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> TBird <--- cat thief
If you're ever tried for stealing cats, I'll be a character witness.
Joy :-)
Cheryl - 10 Jul 2004 19:50 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "TBird"
<nospam@here.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:KLTHc.169$sV2.158@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> on 10
Jul 2004:
> I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. Because I know that
> A) cats pick their own humans, and B) I take really good care of
> the cats in my life. So there. I confess. And you can't stop
> me.
>
> TBird <--- cat thief
You're a sweetie. I hope the kitty has a better life now! I used to
see a lot of cats wandering around my neighborhood (busy main road,
LOTS of traffic) and last year I had trapped some to get fixed,
found homes for two of them, friendly cats and I figured they had
been dumped. Even earlier this year I trapped one to get him fixed
only to find out he already was, and had a home. He doesn't come
here anymore. I see him occasionally, but he stays close to their
house. I see no other cats at all. I figure that someone may have
noticed their cats gone missing and people are a little more
careful. At least I hope that is what is happening. The ones I
rehomed are very happy and taken care of, and indoor cats now. I
don't know for sure if they had homes but either they did but just
liked to eat out, and had owners who didn't give a damn, or they
were somehow lost or dumped. I think the fact that I rarely see a
roaming cat now tells a story.

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Cheryl
Melissa Houle - 10 Jul 2004 20:58 GMT
> Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
> version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> TBird <--- cat thief
Actually, I'd say you're more of a cat BURGLAR. =o)
If people are careless with their cats when they know there are dangers
awaiting them outside, I don't think they have a lot of grounds for
complaint if the cats end up choosing new humans.
Melissa
Gandalf - 10 Jul 2004 23:51 GMT
>Well, ya' see, I like living healthy cats. I'm kinda partial to that
>version over the half eaten by foxes variety that comes home as a bloodied
>collar.
<SNIP>
>I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. Because I know that A) cats
>pick their own humans, and B) I take really good care of the cats in my
>life. So there. I confess. And you can't stop me.
>
>TBird <--- cat thief
The way I see it, you're saving LIVES here, plain and simple. If people
can't or won't take proper care of their cats, you are commended for
stepping in and saving them from a terrible fate.
There is no question that you hold the high moral ground here!!! Good
for you!
(I live in right in a city, where cars are less than of a threat than a
hungry predator, but I keep my precious Kenzie inside, and she seems
very happy to look upon the great OUT from windows, and my porch.)
~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.
How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein
Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
-Buddha
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Jul 2004 11:22 GMT
> The way I see it, you're saving LIVES here, plain and simple. If people
> can't or won't take proper care of their cats, you are commended for
> stepping in and saving them from a terrible fate.
> There is no question that you hold the high moral ground here!!! Good
> for you!
I agree. In order for you to be seen as a thief in that situation, you'd
have to subscribe to the notion that a cat is a person's property. And
while that might be true legally, I don't believe it is morally. I agree
you did the right thing!
Joyce
CATherine - 11 Jul 2004 05:00 GMT
>I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. Because I know that A) cats
>pick their own humans, and B) I take really good care of the cats in my
>life. So there. I confess. And you can't stop me.
>
>TBird <--- cat thief
What thief? where? I don't see a thief! ;-) Ya done good.
Where in Colorado? I live halfway between Colo. Sprgs and Limon.
--
CATherine
TBird - 12 Jul 2004 15:33 GMT
> Where in Colorado? I live halfway between Colo. Sprgs and Limon.
> --
> CATherine
Why do you ask? Missing a cat? ;-)
Actually, I live way north, north of Fort Collins off I-25. I used to live
in Louisville (where the cat got eaten), outside of Boulder.
By the way - I haven't seen the barn cat again. :-(
TBird <---- trying to figure out how to feed the cat without feeding the
mice...