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Braphobia
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Pat - 07 Jul 2004 16:00 GMT When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a deadly thing. I try to keep the camcorder handy for such times but so far I've failed to capture her unusual reaction.
First, she glares at it for a while, then she tentatively reaches out a paw and leaves it hanging in the air above it while considering what to do. Then, she takes a very fast and hard swat and recoils the paw instantly, leaping backwards to get clear of it. Presumably, the bra will bite off her paw if it can catch it. After a few more minutes of watching, she delivers a series of rapid-fire swats, apparently intended to render the innocent cloth unconscious.
She's so terrified of my underwear that even giving it such a beating with no backlash from the bra, she will not walk past it; I have to pick it up and move it out of her sight.
Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps?
Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 16:14 GMT >She's so terrified of my underwear that even giving it such a beating with >no backlash from the bra, she will not walk past it; I have to pick it up >and move it out of her sight. > >Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps? Could be. We've all heard of cats who were afraid of brooms. Biskit has a "window" phobia. You just never know what happened to them before, poor things. Our dachshund was afraid of ropes.
Sherry
David Stevenson - 07 Jul 2004 16:23 GMT >When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a deadly >thing. I try to keep the camcorder handy for such times but so far I've [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps? I get similar ideas from bras, in fact I ....
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Nik Simpson - 07 Jul 2004 16:24 GMT > Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, > perhaps? Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is pretty much the instinctive response to a snake.
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Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 16:32 GMT >Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is >pretty much the instinctive response to a snake. That's a good thought, Nik. We always thought that's why our dachshund was so weirded out by ropes.
Pat - 07 Jul 2004 17:02 GMT > Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is > pretty much the instinctive response to a snake. Since when does a bra resemble a snake??
Takayuki - 07 Jul 2004 22:09 GMT >> Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is >> pretty much the instinctive response to a snake. > >Since when does a bra resemble a snake?? Maybe a snake that has just gotten to a bird's nest and eaten two eggs?
Pat - 07 Jul 2004 22:59 GMT > >Since when does a bra resemble a snake?? > > Maybe a snake that has just gotten to a bird's nest and eaten two > eggs? ROFLMAO. I get it now.... In her past life, Baby Eyes climbed a tree to invade a bird's nest and was attacked by the snake that got there first!
Kreisleriana - 08 Jul 2004 14:01 GMT >>> Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is >>> pretty much the instinctive response to a snake. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Maybe a snake that has just gotten to a bird's nest and eaten two >eggs? But Tak, that would be a bra that she's *wearing* !
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Seanette Blaylock - 08 Jul 2004 16:05 GMT Kreisleriana <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Braphobia:
>>>> Sounds like she is mistaking it for a snake, the behaviour you describe is >>>> pretty much the instinctive response to a snake. >>>Since when does a bra resemble a snake?? >>Maybe a snake that has just gotten to a bird's nest and eaten two eggs? >But Tak, that would be a bra that she's *wearing* ! Felix thinks my bras are primo kitty toys. DH says the cat can play with the bra, he'll play with the contents. ;-)
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m. L. Briggs - 07 Jul 2004 16:55 GMT >When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a deadly >thing. I try to keep the camcorder handy for such times but so far I've [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps? Do you think she was a "stripper"?
Pat - 07 Jul 2004 17:02 GMT > Do you think she was a "stripper"? I'll have to hypnotize her and try to find out :)
O J - 07 Jul 2004 17:21 GMT ---------------------<snip>----------------------
>Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps? There are many things that happen that go unaccounted for. One of them is the behavior of cats. I've seen my Lady Jane Grey do that behavior with stuffed animals.
Regards and Purrs, O J
William Hamblen - 08 Jul 2004 03:53 GMT > There are many things that happen that go unaccounted for. One > of them is the behavior of cats. I've seen my Lady Jane Grey do that > behavior with stuffed animals. Years ago our old cat noticed for the first time the black Bakelite knob on a heater thermostat. He carefully approached the knob and put out a paw to gingerly touch it. Then he thoroughly sniffed it. Satisfied it wsn't good to eat (I think he thought it was some sort of mouse), he ignored it from that time forward.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 07 Jul 2004 18:53 GMT >When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a deadly >thing. I try to keep the camcorder handy for such times but so far I've [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Could this be some kind of trauma carried over from a past life, perhaps? I don't know the answer, but, boy, were the pictures conjured up by this post funny!
Ginger-lyn who will probably never see some such thing with her kitties, since she hasn't worn a bra since 1972 . . .
Pat - 07 Jul 2004 21:46 GMT > I don't know the answer, but, boy, were the pictures conjured up by > this post funny! Ginger, it's as hilarious as you can imagine, and I promise you that someday I WILL catch this on video and post the clip!
Ginger-lyn Summer - 08 Jul 2004 18:37 GMT >> I don't know the answer, but, boy, were the pictures conjured up by >> this post funny! > >Ginger, it's as hilarious as you can imagine, and I promise you that someday >I WILL catch this on video and post the clip! Bet all of us here will be looking forward to seeing it :-)
Ginger-lyn
jmcquown - 08 Jul 2004 08:14 GMT > When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a > deadly thing. Need I mention I have a similar reaction to brassieries? They are implements of *torture* designed by men who think there is nothing more fun than making a woman wear such uncomfortable things and call it "sexy".
Of course, this is coming from a woman who knows she lived in the 12th century, again in the 17th and probably in the 19th and and wears corsets comfortably without batting an eye.
Your Baby Eve cat knows bras don't have strings and laces on them so they aren't cat toys; therefore they are something to be feared :)
Jill
Jeanette - 08 Jul 2004 14:49 GMT > > When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's a > > deadly thing. > > Need I mention I have a similar reaction to brassieries? They are > implements of *torture* designed by men who think there is nothing more fun > than making a woman wear such uncomfortable things and call it "sexy". Blimey Jill, I assume that you aren't as 'anatomically gifted' as me then. I can't think of anything more uncomfortable than NOT wearing a bra. Gravity sucks.
Jeanette
jmcquown - 08 Jul 2004 15:39 GMT >>> When Baby Eyes finds a brassiere laying around, she seems sure it's >>> a deadly thing. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jeanette Dear Jeanette, did you miss the part about where I stated I wear corsets or were you being kittenishly obtuse? ;) However, I do own bras.
As for my not being "anatomically gifted" I'll agree I was well into my 30's before some things decided to 'blossom'. It's so funny, John and I were talking about this just yesterday. As an artist, he looks at bodies as sort of a clinical observer, looking for features he might want to paint, storing up images. When we dated 25 years ago I was not yet "anatomically gifted" (I love that phrase!). What drew his attention to me was the way I carried myself; my walk, he said. Shoulders back, head held high and he said I had a bit of an attitude. (Who, ME?!) Not that he's complaining about the later in life "developments" :)
Persia is not afraid of my bras. She does, however, go after the laces on my velvet civil war gown bodice and the feather on my hat, too! And I would really like it if she would leave my silks alone! (Thank Bast she doesn't have front claws.) It's not a phobia with her; they are toys.
Jill
Seanette Blaylock - 08 Jul 2004 16:05 GMT "Jeanette" <vertgyn@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Braphobia:
>Blimey Jill, I assume that you aren't as 'anatomically gifted' as me then. I >can't think of anything more uncomfortable than NOT wearing a bra. Gravity >sucks. I'm only 34B and find going without one uncomfortable.
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Pat - 08 Jul 2004 16:39 GMT > I'm only 34B and find going without one uncomfortable. My size fluctuates, but it's always uncomfortable to run or ride a horse without the over-shoulder boulder holder.
Jill, try the 95% cotton / 5% spandex "sports bras", they're not too bad!
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 09 Jul 2004 02:46 GMT > Jill, try the 95% cotton / 5% spandex "sports bras", they're not too bad! For those who hate wearing bras, check out this site. They make the best bras in the world (IMO :)). Take it from someone who agrees with Jill that they are an instrument of torture. These are the only kinds I've ever been able to stand wearing. (I still prefer to go without, but there are some times and places where that just doesn't go over very well!)
This is a US company but they DO ship overseas.
http://www.decentexposures.com/
Joyce
Pat - 09 Jul 2004 03:40 GMT I'm sure they're very comfy, but I wear them out too fast to be paying $30+ a pop!
Recently I found a real cheap alternative that's the most comfortable thing I've ever worn. Wal-mart has these stretchy sleeveless shirts that have "built-in" bras, in white, baby blue, black, red, peach, and several print colors, and they're only $6.94 each.
Talk about OT.......
> For those who hate wearing bras, check out this site. They make the > best bras in the world (IMO :)). Take it from someone who agrees with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 09 Jul 2004 11:38 GMT > I'm sure they're very comfy, but I wear them out too fast to be > paying $30+ a pop! They're not cheap, it's true, but they last a loooong time. I'll bet you wouldn't wear them out nearly as quickly as cheaper bras.
But, if you can't come up with the $30, you can't! I can't argue with that.
Yes, this is OT for the ng, but not for the subject line! :)
Joyce
Howard Berkowitz - 10 Jul 2004 03:20 GMT > I'm sure they're very comfy, but I wear them out too fast to be paying > $30+ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Talk about OT....... So to get back on topic, anyone seen some quadruple bras for cats? (I have seen one poster of a cat in a....bikini? quintkini?)
Kreisleriana - 10 Jul 2004 13:49 GMT >> I'm sure they're very comfy, but I wear them out too fast to be paying >> $30+ [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >So to get back on topic, anyone seen some quadruple bras for cats? (I >have seen one poster of a cat in a....bikini? quintkini?) One year when I went on vacation, I photoshopped a pic of Stinky in splashy Hawaiian swiiming trunks. ;)
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jmcquown - 10 Jul 2004 11:54 GMT > I'm sure they're very comfy, but I wear them out too fast to be > paying $30+ a pop! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Talk about OT....... I love those built in 'bra tops'! There's one of the best inventions since sliced bread (because they aren't uncomfortable). Unfortunately, they don't make good cat toys. But, they don't create a phobia, either :) Persia is perfectly happy to sleep on one, whether I'm wearing it or if it's in the pile of laundry ;)
Jill
>> For those who hate wearing bras, check out this site. They make the >> best bras in the world (IMO :)). Take it from someone who agrees with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Joyce jmcquown - 08 Jul 2004 22:37 GMT > "Jeanette" <vertgyn@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: Braphobia: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'm only 34B and find going without one uncomfortable. When I was working, you could count on one of the first things I did upon coming home was shedding my bra. I was sort of an executroid; I would wear suits or dresses to work with the requisite pantyhose, slip and a bra. After work, I hit the door to my apartment: HI Persia! (snuggles! Ow ow! Love you, kitty!) and I'd start shedding all that crap as I walked to the bedroom. I probably could have made a living as a stripper, except this was more utilitarian behavior than sexy. (wink)
Jill
JoJo - 09 Jul 2004 00:15 GMT Ever since mom put me in trainers I hate the things. I used to walk to school, my grandmother's house was on the way. I'd stop in the morning take off my bra and go to school. On my way home I'd stop and put it back on. Worked well until my mother stopped at my Grandmother's one day while I was on my way home. I believe she called me a "hussy". I was 11, the only girl in my grade who had boobs, I hated them, and hated bras more, they itched. I'm not large chested by any means (36A), in fact I don't believe they've grown since they've sprouted! Anyway - to this day, first thing to come off is the bra. I would like to think men developed those uncomfortable contraptions, no woman would make something so uncomfortable.
And thankfully my company does not require us to wear pantyhose - another uncomfortable undergarment. I'd like to meet the person who said they keep you warm - only in summer when you don't need the extra heat.
Men have it so easy!
> > "Jeanette" <vertgyn@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to > > say about Re: Braphobia: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jill jmcquown - 09 Jul 2004 16:31 GMT > Ever since mom put me in trainers I hate the things. I used to walk > to school, my grandmother's house was on the way. I'd stop in the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Men have it so easy! Mom told me this story of her mother (good thing her mother isn't still alive, she'd have slapped her for telling me!) She put on a girdle *over* a slip (why, I don't know) and they were walking down to church. This must have been in the late 1930's or early 1940's. They were walking along, the girdle slid down and puddled at her feet. Grandma calmly stepped out of it, picked it up and stuffed it in her purse. My grandpa Brown certainly didn't utter a word. Hannah was known to throw a cast iron skillet at Geordie if he ticked her off :)
Jill
>>> "Jeanette" <vertgyn@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to >>> say about Re: Braphobia: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Jill
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