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Irulan - 01 Jul 2004 00:28 GMT
To Crackles' mommy, I would like to contribute something towards Crackles'
vet bill also. If I call will they know who I mean if I just say this is for
Crackle's bill? I want to be sure they put the money towards the right
kitty. I plan to use a credit card, hope they accept them. I will call
tomorrow.
Jazz's mama

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hpickering@austin.rr.com - 01 Jul 2004 01:52 GMT
>To Crackles' mommy, I would like to contribute something towards Crackles'
>vet bill also. If I call will they know who I mean if I just say this is for
>Crackle's bill? I want to be sure they put the money towards the right
>kitty. I plan to use a credit card, hope they accept them. I will call
>tomorrow.
>Jazz's mama
This about Crackles and the ick was over a year ago if I recall.
Karen Chuplis - 01 Jul 2004 02:06 GMT
in article qtn6e0l4duv00j9kqhg91e4iaptup4v440@4ax.com,
hpickering@austin.rr.com at hpickering@austin.rr.com wrote on 6/30/04 7:52
PM:

>> To Crackles' mommy, I would like to contribute something towards Crackles'
>> vet bill also. If I call will they know who I mean if I just say this is for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Jazz's mama
> This about Crackles and the ick was over a year ago if I recall.

Crackles has a big growth in his ear now :( It is bloody and icky.

Karen
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 01 Jul 2004 02:31 GMT
>in article qtn6e0l4duv00j9kqhg91e4iaptup4v440@4ax.com,
>hpickering@austin.rr.com at hpickering@austin.rr.com wrote on 6/30/04 7:52
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Karen
Oh No!
Purring that it gets better.
m. L. Briggs - 01 Jul 2004 03:14 GMT
>in article qtn6e0l4duv00j9kqhg91e4iaptup4v440@4ax.com,
>hpickering@austin.rr.com at hpickering@austin.rr.com wrote on 6/30/04 7:52
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Karen
If there was a post about this, it skipped my computer.  Tell us more.
MLB
Karen Chuplis - 01 Jul 2004 03:23 GMT
>> in article qtn6e0l4duv00j9kqhg91e4iaptup4v440@4ax.com,
>> hpickering@austin.rr.com at hpickering@austin.rr.com wrote on 6/30/04 7:52
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> If there was a post about this, it skipped my computer.  Tell us more.
> MLB

I'm thinking now it was in a catslaves post. Poor Crackles had an abcess on
his cheek, which did heal, but has had a growth in his ear for a few weeks
now and it seems bigger and is leaky :(( He just does ot get the breaks
health wise poor boy.
Steve Touchstone - 01 Jul 2004 06:05 GMT
>I'm thinking now it was in a catslaves post. Poor Crackles had an abcess on
>his cheek, which did heal, but has had a growth in his ear for a few weeks
>now and it seems bigger and is leaky :(( He just does ot get the breaks
>health wise poor boy.

Right you are, Karen. For those who aren't on the Yahoo catslave
group, a couple days ago Crackle's meowmie posted that he might need
expensive treatment (she's unfortunately among those looking for a
job). Anyway, TED said Crackles needs to be sedated for a closer look
at whatever is in the ear, and estimates the cost at $100 to $200
IIRC. There's a chance that they'll be able to correct the problem
then, if it's something simple, but there's also a chance of more
expensive surgery in the future. Anyway, I'll take the liberty of
posting a copy of Crackle's meowmie's post from this afternoon
***************
"Dr. Karen's Animal Hospital
1940 Kings Hwy. Unit #3
Port Charlotte, Fl. 33980
#941-766-8555

I think she is 0pen 8:30am-5pm eastern time monday thur friday
but the office closes from noon to 2pm for lunch and animal
feeding. also open 9am-12pm on saturdays

I'll give her a call to tell her to expect a contact from someone I
know that wants help out. Thanks so much, can I say thanks so
much again? meow for now gotta go make that call before she
closes"
***************
And in a later post she said she had talked with a vet tech named
Robyn, who would leave a message at the front desk for anyone who
might call wanted to contribute to a fund for Crackle's bill

For those who might be new, or just not remember, Crackles was rescued
from a neglectful neighbor about a year ago. When rescued he was going
bald from a terrible skin condition (mites if IIRC) and other health
problems from the neglect. Well, recently he develped an abcess, which
responded to treatment, but also has some ear problem which hasn't
responded to medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where
they'll taked a closer look under sedation.
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hpickering@austin.rr.com - 01 Jul 2004 11:34 GMT
>>I'm thinking now it was in a catslaves post. Poor Crackles had an abcess on
>>his cheek, which did heal, but has had a growth in his ear for a few weeks
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>responded to medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where
>they'll taked a closer look under sedation.
Thanks for the info Steve.
I haven't heard about Crackles in a year.
That is what had me confused since I don't Yahoo.
purrs that it is not cancer.
Jeanne Hedge - 01 Jul 2004 15:03 GMT
>Right you are, Karen. For those who aren't on the Yahoo catslave
>group, a couple days ago Crackle's meowmie posted that he might need
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>responded to medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where
>they'll taked a closer look under sedation.

After such a bad week, with so many kitties, d*gs, horses and people
crossing over, it's nice to be able to do something more than provide
candles, purrs, and good thoughts.

I called to contribute a few minutes ago. Robyn wasn't in, but Tina,
the lady who answered the phone, knew exactly what I was talking about
when I said I wanted to contribute toward Crackles' bill.

Tina wouldn't tell me how much had been contributed, of course, but
she said that there had been "several" donations already.

Purrs to Crackles and Crackles' meowmie!

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

http://www.jhedge.com
Cheryl - 02 Jul 2004 02:19 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", Steve Touchstone
<stouchst@junksirinet.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:u137e018mc8dakmod58tvhlljdcp4gm9bf@4ax.com> on 01 Jul 2004:

> For those who might be new, or just not remember, Crackles was
> rescued from a neglectful neighbor about a year ago. When
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where they'll
> taked a closer look under sedation.

Purrs for Crackles. I wonder if mites could be the ear problem too?
Not necessarily the ordinary ear mites, but after the Chigger thread
got me itching so much, I went to do some reading. Ick.

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Marina - 02 Jul 2004 04:34 GMT
> For those who might be new, or just not remember, Crackles was rescued
> from a neglectful neighbor about a year ago. When rescued he was going
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> responded to medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where
> they'll taked a closer look under sedation.

Lots of purrs to Crackles and his Meowmie.

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P. Cox - 02 Jul 2004 21:14 GMT
Thanks for all the well wishes, I haven't gotten the mac able to read
newsgroups yet so I am back on my mothers webtv to reach you guys after
steve told me there is a thread about crackles on here.

I called the vet to see how close we are to being able to get him looked
cause his ear is starting to produce pus again. She said we are up to
$80(this doesn't include anything mailed cause of course the mail hasn't
reached her yet). She said to come get more antibiotics to clear up the
infecion again(poor crackles has been on one or another antibiotics for
a month now).  The office is closed on monday for the holiday, I forgot
to ask if they were open on saturday. So anybody calls this weekend or
monday they might not be open. I need to go pick up the antibiotics as
soon as I get done typing this, I'll find out about saturday and tell
ya'll. I want to thank everyone for helping crackles out, he is such a
trooper. I have pictures in a yahoo album, I'll post the link in my next
post when I get back from the vets later today. I just can't express
enough thanks for helping crackles. Big hugs to everyone.  

>"Steve Touchstone" ><stouchst@junksirinet.net> wrote
>For those who might be new, or just not >remember, Crackles was rescued
from a >neglectful neighbor about a year ago. When >rescued he was going
bald from a terrible skin >condition (mites if IIRC) and other health
>problems from the neglect. Well, recently he >develped an abcess, which
responded to >treatment, but also has some ear problem >which hasn't
responded to medication. So it's >back to now it's back to TED where
they'll >taked a closer look under sedation.
>Lots of purrs to Crackles and his Meowmie.
Howard Berkowitz - 02 Jul 2004 21:40 GMT
> Thanks for all the well wishes, I haven't gotten the mac able to read
> newsgroups yet so I am back on my mothers webtv to reach you guys after
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> post when I get back from the vets later today. I just can't express
> enough thanks for helping crackles. Big hugs to everyone.

At least in human medicine, if one or more antibiotics were not cleaning
up a drained abscess after a month or so, it really may be worth getting
a culture and sensitivity test. Could be cheaper, and certainly more
pleasant for the two- and four-legged ones, to find out definitively
what antibiotic(s) hit the particular infection.

Again extrapolating from human medicine, it would be reasonable to start
with an antibiotic of the cephalosporin (e.g., cephalexin (Keflex))
class, and, if that doesn't work, consider a fluoroquinolone (e.g.,
ciprofloxacin (Cipro)).  Even in human medicine, though, local doctors
know what are the most common infections and antibiotics useful against
that strain in your area.  Even a Gram stain, which can be done in the
office, may be informative.

While I don't immediately know of any human antibiotics that are toxic
in cats, that's a vet's call.  Penicillin, for example, would never have
gotten to market if it was first tested on guinea pigs -- this generally
quite nontoxic antibiotic kills them quickly.
P. Cox - 02 Jul 2004 23:14 GMT
Yes they are open Saturday but can't sceduale anything til after tuesday
because they are closed monday. Just before I got there someone called
from Australia. The assistant looked amazed, I told her Crackles is
world reknown(hehe).  

To answer the medical post cocerned about his treatment:

I think the problem with clearing up the infection is getting to what is
causing it which is this thing in his ear. Its a yellowish mass that has
gotten bigger since I first noticed it(noticed it when I was cleaning a
scratch below his ear, when shook his head he sprayed blood all over my
shirt. He has been given tresaderm first(before he had an examination),
then moved to synotic drops and baytril then he had his cheek
lanced(twice) and given clavamox tablets along with the drops and
baytril when his cheek filled with pus. The infection seemed to have
gone away but has reurned now that he is no longer on any antibiotics
for the past 5 days. He has no mites or yeast infection but has tons of
bacteria in his ear, they did a ear swab and checked it out under the
microscope. The thing in his ear is connected not something that got
stuck in there and thats all they know.

peace and thanks

>At least in human medicine, if one or more >antibiotics were not
cleaning up a drained >abscess after a month or so, it really may be
>worth getting a culture and sensitivity test. >Could be cheaper, and
certainly more >pleasant for the two- and four-legged ones, to >find out
definitively what antibiotic(s) hit the >particular infection.
>Again extrapolating from human medicine, it >would be reasonable to
start with an antibiotic >of the cephalosporin (e.g., cephalexin
>(Keflex)) class, and, if that doesn't work, >consider a fluoroquinolone
(e.g., ciprofloxacin >(Cipro)). Even in human medicine, though, >local
doctors know what are the most common >infections and antibiotics useful
against that >strain in your area. Even a Gram stain, which >can be done
in the office, may be informative.
>While I don't immediately know of any human >antibiotics that are toxic
in cats, that's a vet's >call. Penicillin, for example, would never have
>gotten to market if it was first tested on guinea >pigs -- this
generally quite nontoxic antibiotic >kills them quickly.
Yowie - 03 Jul 2004 00:31 GMT
> Yes they are open Saturday but can't sceduale anything til after tuesday
> because they are closed monday. Just before I got there someone called
> from Australia. The assistant looked amazed, I told her Crackles is
> world reknown(hehe).

That was me! Laura, the receptionist, seemed quite non-plussed about the
itnernational call, and I was pleasantly surprised that my credit card went
through without any hassles (sometimes international cards aren't accepted)

Its a shame you didn't get to the office a little sooner, we could have said
hello personally!

> To answer the medical post cocerned about his treatment:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> peace and thanks

More purrs coming Crackle's way

Yowie
Takayuki - 03 Jul 2004 03:53 GMT
>That was me! Laura, the receptionist, seemed quite non-plussed about the
>itnernational call, and I was pleasantly surprised that my credit card went
>through without any hassles (sometimes international cards aren't accepted)
>
>Its a shame you didn't get to the office a little sooner, we could have said
>hello personally!

That was really nice of you, Vicky!
Yowie - 03 Jul 2004 10:26 GMT
> >That was me! Laura, the receptionist, seemed quite non-plussed about the
> >itnernational call, and I was pleasantly surprised that my credit card went
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That was really nice of you, Vicky!

just part of the service, AFAIC :-)

Yowie
Cheryl - 03 Jul 2004 03:33 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes",
02 Jul 2004:

> I think the problem with clearing up the infection is getting to
> what is causing it which is this thing in his ear. Its a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> out under the microscope. The thing in his ear is connected not
> something that got stuck in there and thats all they know.

Purrs for Crackles. My Shadow had very recurring problems with his
ears, and he'd scratch and scratch at them, had polyps that had to
be removed a couple of times. He had gunk that would ooze out and I
was constantly wiping his ears out. No mites, no infection unless
he scratched at them too much, and he'd had drops I had to put in
often. I keep saying this, and I think people are skeptic because
it is probably unusual, but on a suggestion I started giving him B
complex daily and his ears cleared up. I haven't had to have him to
the vet for cleaning, infections, anything (ear-related) in a year
now. Good luck and God Bless RPCA for helping you and Crackles.
Angels, I swear.

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Howard Berkowitz - 03 Jul 2004 06:46 GMT
> Yes they are open Saturday but can't sceduale anything til after tuesday
> because they are closed monday. Just before I got there someone called
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> microscope. The thing in his ear is connected not something that got
> stuck in there and thats all they know.

That generally matches what would be done in humans. Baytril is a
fluoroquinolone used in veterinary medicine only.  Clavamox is a
combination that has a comparable coverage to a cephalosporin.

Tresaderm is for skin-deep things only, as are synotic drops. Both are
anti-inflammatory and tresaderm also has an antibiotic.

If they still are getting bacteria in the ear, a culture and sensitivity
really makes sense. They've tried the obvious classes of antibiotics,
and it's time to pin down what will hit the particular bacteria.  
Getting a culture and sensitivity, and then using an antibiotic known to
work, both will make him comfortable faster as well as save money on
antibiotics that don't work.  It's not out of the question to use more
than one antibiotic concurrently, if, as it well might be, it's
multidrug resistant staphylococci.

Ooky stuff, but the color of the discharge may or may not mean anything
-- it really takes experience even to take a good guess.

> peace and thanks
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >gotten to market if it was first tested on guinea >pigs -- this
> generally quite nontoxic antibiotic >kills them quickly.
Christine Burel - 06 Jul 2004 15:01 GMT
Purrs for Crackles and his Meowmie!  Please keep us posted.
Christine

> >I'm thinking now it was in a catslaves post. Poor Crackles had an abcess on
> >his cheek, which did heal, but has had a growth in his ear for a few weeks
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> responded to medication. So it's back to now it's back to TED where
> they'll taked a closer look under sedation.
m. L. Briggs - 01 Jul 2004 19:00 GMT
>To Crackles' mommy, I would like to contribute something towards Crackles'
>vet bill also. If I call will they know who I mean if I just say this is for
>Crackle's bill? I want to be sure they put the money towards the right
>kitty. I plan to use a credit card, hope they accept them. I will call
>tomorrow.
>Jazz's mama

I am mailing a $15.00 check today to the Vet.  As I don't know where
to notify the owner, could you pass on this information.  It's not a
lot, but may help a little,  Thankx.  MLB
lrulan - 01 Jul 2004 19:33 GMT
I just called Crackles' vet and they knew exactly who to apply the money to.
I'm glad to have helped out a little, I hope he is fine and can get this
problem fixed. Please keep us updated as to his progress.
Jazz & his mama

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> >To Crackles' mommy, I would like to contribute something towards Crackles'
> >vet bill also. If I call will they know who I mean if I just say this is for
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> to notify the owner, could you pass on this information.  It's not a
> lot, but may help a little,  Thankx.  MLB
Steve Touchstone - 01 Jul 2004 19:48 GMT
>I am mailing a $15.00 check today to the Vet.  As I don't know where
>to notify the owner, could you pass on this information.  It's not a
>lot, but may help a little,  Thankx.  MLB

Done.

As I understand it, Crackle's meowmie used to post to the group here
via webTV, and hasn't figured out which software to use now that she's
switched to a Mac. I imagine she'll be making an appearance here
before too long, though, as she just asked for help in Yahoo. She's
already had one response, and I'm sure the Mac users will soon guide
her through getting back to newsgroups.

I don't read Yahoo daily like I do this group, but will pass along any
updates when I read them unless I see someone has already posted them.
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m. L. Briggs - 01 Jul 2004 20:04 GMT
>>I am mailing a $15.00 check today to the Vet.  As I don't know where
>>to notify the owner, could you pass on this information.  It's not a
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>I don't read Yahoo daily like I do this group, but will pass along any
>updates when I read them unless I see someone has already posted them.

You are always there to help someone.  Thanks!   MLB
 
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