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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / June 2004Baby foal Patrick is dead
We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html I'm so sorry, that is so sad to lose him so unexpectedly. He was a beauty. Sherry > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. Thant's so sad Pat. {{{HUGS}}} Helen M -- > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html Pat this is dreadful!!! Please keep us posted. I'm soooo sorry :( >> We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >> acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Pat this is dreadful!!! Please keep us posted. I'm soooo sorry :( I just looked at his picture. What a gorgeous little guy. It's so heartbreaking. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ >> Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >> http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html > >Pat this is dreadful!!! Please keep us posted. I'm soooo sorry :( Also sorry. Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel. |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") I am so very sorry, Pat. Purrs to comfort you and your family and for Patrick's journey to the Rainbow Bridge. Christine > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html Oh dear, how terrible. What a rotten day this is-- so many little pals leaving. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ The woman who was going to buy him made this page: http://equususa.com/Friesian-colt.html That was so nice of her. I bet she was really crest fallen too :( I just wonder what happened. Hugs again. > The woman who was going to buy him made this page: > > http://equususa.com/Friesian-colt.html >http://equususa.com/Friesian-colt.html What a precious little boy, with his little tongue sticking out. Poor little fellow, poor mama horse, poor everybody. Healing purrs and nickers for everybody concerned. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ aw, poor Patrick. We will purr and pray for his safe journey to the RB. He will like frolicking there with the other horsies and animals. Jazz & his mama  SignatureIrulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He > was not acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have > been injured in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found > him, and he had a small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria > will be taking him to Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html I'm soooo sorry to hear this. He was a beautiful horse. Jill > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html My sympathies. How awful when you went expecting to see him healthy and alive and absolutely beautiful. Jo I'm so sorry to hear this! ((((((Pat)))))) -- Joy "You can never do a kindness too soon because you never know how soon it will be too late." _Ralph Waldo Emerson > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How sad! He was a beautiful baby. Purrs and headbutts on the way for Gloria, Patrick's buyer and everyone else involved in the care and love of little Patrick. Julie. Hobbes, Selena and Lacey >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html How sad, and only a month old, too. They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... We are very afraid here! I'm likely way off base here, but zinc is used to galvanize. What sort of containers are the animals eating and drinking from? Could some of them be defective? Could damaged galvanized pipe cause a problem? Horses have more delicate health than many realize and the young are even more susceptible to problems. Hope everyone else is fine, or if not is treatable. Jo > They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the > cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There > will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check > the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... > > We are very afraid here! > I'm likely way off base here, but zinc is used to galvanize. What sort of > containers are the animals eating and drinking from? Could some of them be > defective? Could damaged galvanized pipe cause a problem? That was my immeidate response, too! Mostly, they drink from the ponds, but a few of the fields don't have ponds. All the water troughs here are PVC. The pipes are all PVC too. The vet was here earlier today and said their gums don't look anemic to him. He took blood from Patrick's dam. We'll see what the results say.... > > I'm likely way off base here, but zinc is used to galvanize. What sort of > > containers are the animals eating and drinking from? Could some of them be > > defective? Could damaged galvanized pipe cause a problem? > > That was my immeidate response, too! > Mostly, they drink from the ponds, but a few of the fields don't have ponds. > All the water troughs here are PVC. The pipes are all PVC too. > > The vet was here earlier today and said their gums don't look anemic to him. > He took blood from Patrick's dam. We'll see what the results say.... Gosh, maybe there was just a concentrated spot or something the colt ate (do colts pick junk up off the ground like cats do?) that maybe affected him much more quickly since he was so young? I'm glad the vet didn't think the horses looked too pale. Some mushrooms, maybe. I'll post here when I know the answer. > > Mostly, they drink from the ponds, but a few of the fields don't have ponds. > > All the water troughs here are PVC. The pipes are all PVC too. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > much more quickly since he was so young? I'm glad the vet didn't think the > horses looked too pale. Did they ever figure out what it was that decimated the "crop" of baby horses in Kentucky 2-3 years ago? This couldn't be that again, could it? Regards, Jeanne Hedge >Some mushrooms, maybe. I'll post here when I know the answer. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> much more quickly since he was so young? I'm glad the vet didn't think the >> horses looked too pale. > Did they ever figure out what it was that decimated the "crop" of baby > horses in Kentucky 2-3 years ago? This couldn't be that again, could > it? > > Regards, > Jeanne Hedge As far as I have heard they really never came to a conclusion on that. They *think* the damaging Mare reproductive loss syndrome of the 2001 crop was caused by the Eastern Tent Catipillar. They still are not sure *how* the mares were affected by them, but are pretty certain that was the main cause. Very bizarre. Karen > They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the > cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There > will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check > the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... > > We are very afraid here! Oh no!!! I hope you can discover what is happening very SOON! Is there anything that you can do to eliminate the excess zinc or possibility of it in the mean time? Many prayers and purrs that the rest of the horses and foals are OK. Big purrs for everyone, equine and human coming for your household! Thinking of you. Christine > They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the > cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There > will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check > the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... > > We are very afraid here! > They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the > cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There > will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check > the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... Mega-purrs for the rest of them to be all right. Joy >They say he died due to anemia..... An excess of zinc is suspected as the >cause. We have no idea how he may have gotten too much zinc though. There >will be some test results next week and the vet will be coming out to check >the other horses. All their gums look a bit pale..... > >We are very afraid here! Purrs and headbutts to you and your horses. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Many thanks to all for the comforting purrs etc. The vet is en route even as I write this. Gloria says last year's fertilizer had 339 lbs. of zinc phosphate added. This was applied to just 15 acres. Sounds like a lot of zinc phosphate per acre to me. She also says that two of the pastures that were fertilized were gone over twice. One of the fields that got done twice is one that Patrick and his dam were in for two weeks just before he died. She says the county extension service told her the soil doesn't need zinc, but the fertilizer people said that zinc is not available to the plants so she must add zinc phosphate to the mix. Anyway Gloria will take grass and clover samples to be analyzed for zinc, and the vet will be taking blood samples from all the horses. I don't know what will happen. If there's too much zinc in the fields, how to counteract it? And where to keep and how to feed the horses until it's gone? > Many thanks to all for the comforting purrs etc. The vet is en route even as > I write this. Gloria says last year's fertilizer had 339 lbs. of zinc [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to counteract it? And where to keep and how to feed the horses until it's > gone? Wow. How awful. You might pose your question over at rec.equestrian. THere are some pretty haughty people there (mostly old cowboy types that don't believe horses should be "disneyized" AT ALL, but dang they do know their stuff), but I will say there are *extremely* knowledgable people as well that have tons of experience and often have had similar problems as others. Someone might have some very good suggestions if even as to where to go professionally. I am SOO sorry to hear about this. >Anyway Gloria will take grass and clover samples to be analyzed for zinc, >and the vet will be taking blood samples from all the horses. > >I don't know what will happen. If there's too much zinc in the fields, how >to counteract it? And where to keep and how to feed the horses until it's >gone? That is pretty scary. I used to think that zinc must be pretty harmless, since they put in vitamin pills - "Centrum: From A to Zinc", and pennies are made out of it, and doctors don't seem to get too concerned when kids swallow them. I once read about a plant that had such great nickel absorbing qualities that people were considering just harvesting the plant for nickel instead of mining the soil. Then, the horses eat all that grass... Hope the kitties haven't been eating the grass, too. > >Anyway Gloria will take grass and clover samples to be analyzed for zinc, > >and the vet will be taking blood samples from all the horses. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > nickel instead of mining the soil. Then, the horses eat all that > grass... Hope the kitties haven't been eating the grass, too. I tried to do a little web research, and apparently pets can get zinc overdose from swallowing a penny. They recommend x-ray and removal if a pet is anemic and they find a penny in x-ray. Kids I'd imagine can pass them. I sure hope all the other horses will be OK. Its a shame that poor Patrick had to be the bellwether, but he may just have saved the rest of them. Jo > Many thanks to all for the comforting purrs etc. The vet is en route even as > I write this. Gloria says last year's fertilizer had 339 lbs. of zinc > phosphate added. This was applied to just 15 acres. Sounds like a lot of > zinc phosphate per acre to me. Wow...to me as well. >She also says that two of the pastures that > were fertilized were gone over twice. One of the fields that got done twice [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to counteract it? And where to keep and how to feed the horses until it's > gone? /delurk again Plants don't need exorbitant amounts of zinc that I know of (I am a retired plant molecular biologist - worked in ag chem for 15 years). Zinc is a heavy metal, and I'm not exactly sure how you would counteract it in soil. I would be checking the water supply (and ground water) as well - any run-off has certainly tainted the water. I would ask your co. extension people what they think of the situation - they may have some remedies for you. In closing - so sorry about the foal - he was gorgeous. -L. /lurk again > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He > was not acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have > been injured in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found > him, and he had a small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria > will be taking him to Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html This is such a sad day, I'm running out of candles. You have my sincere sympathy and a candle will be lit for Patrick. SignatureAdrian > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html Oh, how sad. I'm very sorry. He was a beautiful colt, too. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for horses. Melissa >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html I am so sorry. Poor baby. -- CATherine > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html I am very sorry to read this, Pat; he was a beautiful boy. We will light a candle for him, and send healing purrs to all who will miss him. ------ Krista > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html He was a gorgeous baby, indeed. This has to be quite a shock. I've never heard of this breed of horses. The pictures are beautiful. Condolences to all of you. Annie >> We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >> acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Condolences to all of you. >Annie They are getting more and more popular in the US. They are part of a trend towards "warmblood" horses. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html Aww, sorry to hear about the poor baby. ;-( Like Adrian said, a sad day here in RPCA heartfelt purrs on the way SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html i'm sorry,he was a beauty. > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html Hugs and purrs, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not > acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured > in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a > small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to > Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at > http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html >We don't know why yet. We just found him laying in the pasture. He was not >acting sick in the least, and his body did not appear to have been injured >in any way. He was already stiff and cold when we found him, and he had a >small amount of white foam in one nostril. Gloria will be taking him to >Columbia for an autopsy. See his pic at >http://friesianlover.com/nursery.html I am so sorry for your loss :-( Ginger-lyn
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