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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 25 Jun 2004 06:06 GMT

Someone on my Europeaqn travel newsgroup posted the link to this.
Sounds like a really neat European vacation! (I didn't check to see how
much it cost, though.) Take a look at
http://www.friendsofromancats.org/Documents/Cats&Culture.pdf

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Takayuki - 25 Jun 2004 19:07 GMT

>Someone on my Europeaqn travel newsgroup posted the link to this.
>Sounds like a really neat European vacation! (I didn't check to see how
>much it cost, though.) Take a look at
>http://www.friendsofromancats.org/Documents/Cats&Culture.pdf

That's interesting - a two-week cat sanctuary tour of Italy to help
fund stray cat programs there. How neat that the entire country is
no-kill by law. Near the end, it mentions that the price is $3500.

It also strikes me as ironic that the group is based in California,
where the top news this morning went, "Schwarzenegger seeks to speed
killing of strays in shelters to save money". I would bet that
Friends of Roman Cats would be vocal opponents of that idea.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Jun 2004 00:11 GMT

> That's interesting - a two-week cat sanctuary tour of Italy to help
> fund stray cat programs there. How neat that the entire country is
> no-kill by law. Near the end, it mentions that the price is $3500.

> It also strikes me as ironic that the group is based in California,
> where the top news this morning went, "Schwarzenegger seeks to speed
> killing of strays in shelters to save money". I would bet that
> Friends of Roman Cats would be vocal opponents of that idea.

Not ironic, Tak! The legislators' office phones, faxes, and voice mailboxes
are jammed full of calls opposing this budget cut. We might have a Governor
with his head up you-know-where, but he's not representing most of us on
this issue.

Joyce

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Jo Firey - 26 Jun 2004 23:17 GMT

> > That's interesting - a two-week cat sanctuary tour of Italy to help
> > fund stray cat programs there. How neat that the entire country is
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>
> Joyce

Last night Governor Arnold went to TV to say that the portion of the budget
cut relating to animal rights was a mistake and has been removed from the
budget. When asked if the protests changed his mind, he said no. That his
daughter had brought it to his attention. That the cut was a mistake made
in having to do the budget proposal too quickly. He apologized and said it
would be corrected immediately.

The shelters would save money if they didn't have to hold strays for six
days like they do, but 72 hours is really not enough time to make sure that
lost pets and owners are reunited.

Jo

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Jun 2004 04:05 GMT

>> > That's interesting - a two-week cat sanctuary tour of Italy to help
>> > fund stray cat programs there. How neat that the entire country is
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> days like they do, but 72 hours is really not enough time to make sure that
> lost pets and owners are reunited.

Even six days isn't enough time, where micro-chipping is not routine,
and the owner has no idea where to look!

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Bev - 26 Jun 2004 20:37 GMT

> >Someone on my Europeaqn travel newsgroup posted the link to this.
> >Sounds like a really neat European vacation! (I didn't check to see how
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> killing of strays in shelters to save money". I would bet that
> Friends of Roman Cats would be vocal opponents of that idea.

Have I gone off Schwarzenegger!!!! I love the idea of this tour - if
we didn't live so many thousands of miles away I would give it serious
consideration.

I have always hated the idea of cats being killed in animal shelters.
There is an idea going here that all cats be microchipped by law - they
have brought in the microchipping for dogs.

I am all for it. They have pictures of animals wanting homes in one of
our papers and it breaks my heart to see those little faces. I'd like
to adopt them all. What really gets me is many of them are older cats
and dogs. Apart from their slaves dying how can people bear to give up
on companions they have lived with for several years!! I have a friend
who had a cat living with her for twelve years. She had to shift
houses and decided in her wisdom that it would be kinder to put the cat
down. I tried to stop her doing this but I couldn't. She had
convinced herself that the cat was older (perfectly healthy btw) and
wouldn't adjust to a new home. That was many years ago. The friend
turned 90 (and is spry for her age) a week ago and it ran through my
mind that no one has suggested she should be put down because it would
be kinder. I rest my case.

Bev

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Takayuki - 27 Jun 2004 02:42 GMT

>I have always hated the idea of cats being killed in animal shelters.
>There is an idea going here that all cats be microchipped by law - they
>have brought in the microchipping for dogs.

That's an idea. As well as making lost pets easier to return to their
owners, it could also foster some responsibility, since the cat is
associated with the owner.

>I am all for it. They have pictures of animals wanting homes in one of
>our papers and it breaks my heart to see those little faces. I'd like
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>mind that no one has suggested she should be put down because it would
>be kinder. I rest my case.

Do some people just not bond with their pets? It sounds as though to
her, the cat was nothing more than something that hung around the
house.

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CATherine - 27 Jun 2004 04:24 GMT

>>I have always hated the idea of cats being killed in animal shelters.
>>There is an idea going here that all cats be microchipped by law - they
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>her, the cat was nothing more than something that hung around the
>house.

Unfortunately, that is exactly how most people actually feel about
their cats. A case in point: I once met a woman that had gotten a
kitten for her kids. She took it for shots and the vet said it had
ringworm. The woman didn't want to be bothered with medicines for it,
so she had it put down! And then again, maybe the kitten was better
off not living with her kids treating it as a toy.

--
CATherine

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Takayuki - 27 Jun 2004 17:58 GMT

>>Do some people just not bond with their pets? It sounds as though to
>>her, the cat was nothing more than something that hung around the
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>so she had it put down! And then again, maybe the kitten was better
>off not living with her kids treating it as a toy.

From the Fearsome Foursome stories, it sounds as though ringworm is
pretty bothersome, and she must have been afraid that her kids would
get it, too. But I remember a poster once said that she had fond
memories of her mother carrying her kitten around in her apron and
putting ringworm medicine on its paws.

If we're in the minority, I hope there's nothing wrong with us. :) We
all feel here that cats are terribly charming, and instantly trigger
some kind of protective/enslaving instinct.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2004 10:44 GMT

> Someone on my Europeaqn travel newsgroup posted the link to this.
> Sounds like a really neat European vacation! (I didn't check to
> see how much it cost, though.) Take a look at
> http://www.friendsofromancats.org/Documents/Cats&Culture.pdf

A mere $3495!!

Actually, that's not so bad - it pays for air fare, accomodations,
several meals (not all), transportation within the country, admission
to all the sites on the itinerary, and a few other things. And it's
a two-week trip. It sounds wonderful, and it even departs the USA
from San Francisco! Maybe I'm meant to go? :)

But alas, it's too costly for me. Wish I could go for *one* week and
pay half the price!

Joyce

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