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Melissa Houle - 23 Jun 2004 19:09 GMT
To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
emergency vet on Sunday night, because there was a great deal of watery,
bloody discharge dripping out of Francesca's rear end.  At the vet, I
discovered she was pregnant, and had at least one kitten in her, and the
discharge that had alarmed me was her water breaking.  The midnight vet said
she'd probably deliver the kitten in the night, and if she didn't I was to
either bring her back, or take her to my regular vet.

As of MOnday morning, still no kitten, to my disappointment and concern.  So
Cesca had a c-section, during which the vet delivered one living and two
dead kittens. She and the living kitten are home as of yesterday afternoon,
and fortunately, Cesca is a very good mother who is taking excellent care of
her baby. I'm taking care of HER, and giving her lots of food, love and
praise. It's amazing that she knows just what to do when she is still so
young herself.  The kitten is a wee brown tabby like his/her mother, and for
the moment, I'm calling it T.K. for Tiny Kitten.  It's not yet clear if the
kitten will make it, but since it lived through the night, I'm hopeful that
it will. One day at a time.  It has a lot of white on its little face, a
white bib, and the tiniest little white paws.  It's little tail is maybe an
inch long and as big around as a piece of string.

Melissa
Exocat - 23 Jun 2004 19:28 GMT
Congratulations on obtaining a new future master/mistress.
Looking forward to the pictures!

Purrs for a successful upbringing

Gordon, Bandit, Pericles & Snowball

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> The kitten is a wee brown tabby like his/her mother, and for
> the moment, I'm calling it T.K. for Tiny Kitten.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 23 Jun 2004 19:33 GMT
AWWWWWWWWW :-)

Baby cat!!!!

AAAAWWWWWWWW!!! :-)

Hoping the wee one makes it okay and that Mum is fine too.

AAAAAWWWWWWW!!! :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Sherry - 23 Jun 2004 19:38 GMT
NEW BORN BABY KITTY!!
<shriek>

This is so not fair. I am jealous. She has a baby kitty and I don't. Wah.

Sherry
Melissa Houle - 23 Jun 2004 20:35 GMT
> NEW BORN BABY KITTY!!
> <shriek>
>
> This is so not fair. I am jealous. She has a baby kitty and I don't. Wah.
>
> Sherry

Heh....I guess I adopted TWO cats for the price of one!  I was definitely
unprepared for a C-Section, and I've told Cesca she's used up her quotient
of medical emergencies for the next five years. =o)  But the baby is
amazingly cute, for all that it's tiny eyes are screwed shut.  Cesca and
T.K. are all curled up together in their box.  But the light is too dim  for
a good picture, right now.  Also, I don't want to upset Cesca, who is not
precisely fond of the camera.

Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 23 Jun 2004 22:11 GMT
> Heh....I guess I adopted TWO cats for the price of one!  I was definitely
> unprepared for a C-Section, and I've told Cesca she's used up her quotient
> of medical emergencies for the next five years. =o)  

Wow, that is a surprise! And now you have a baby kitten, how cute!
(Especially since you don't have to hand-raise her yourself.)

I wonder why two died in the womb? That doesn't seem to be very common.

I don't know where you adopted her from, was it a shelter or animal
rescue group? If so, I'm surprised they didn't spay her before adopting
her out. Did the emergency vet spay her during the C-section, at least?

Congratulations!

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Jun 2004 22:56 GMT
>  > Heh....I guess I adopted TWO cats for the price of one!  I was definitely
>  > unprepared for a C-Section, and I've told Cesca she's used up her quotient
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> rescue group? If so, I'm surprised they didn't spay her before adopting
> her out. Did the emergency vet spay her during the C-section, at least?

Wouldn't that interfere with her milk production?   (Sorry if that's a
dumb question, but human females don't usually have hysterectomies as
part of a ceasarian, so I'm not sure how it would affect breast feeding
if they did.)

> Congratulations!
>
> Joyce
Mischief - 24 Jun 2004 05:27 GMT
If I remember my anatomy correctly, having the uterus and ovaries
removed might stop milk production.

The ovaries produce estrogen which plays a huge part in mammary
development.  On the other hand, prolactin and oxytocin are needed for
milk letdown and production, but I believe those are secreted by the
pituitary gland.

It sounds like it might affect it, but I might be wrong.  I've have to
ask at work on Friday.

Can't wait for pictures

take care,

kristi
Melissa Houle - 24 Jun 2004 08:08 GMT
> > I wonder why two died in the womb? That doesn't seem to be very common.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > Joyce

Not sure about the two who died. It's sad, but I'm glad at least one kitten
made it. As I didn't realize she was pregnant until just before delivery, I
did use Advantage on her a few weeks ago, alas. And she'd been treated with
Advantage just after she was picked up, too.  That may have been what caused
the deaths. This is still a very young mother, and the babies arrived well
ahead of schedule, if, as the emergency vet on Sunday night thinks, she was
impregnated in early May, just before the Humane Society picked her up.  In
the event, she was very lucky to get caught, and taken to a safe place where
she was fed regularly. At that point, it was too early in the gestation for
anyone to realize she was pregnant, and Cesca couldn't tell anyone about it.
=o\

She was spayed as well as C-sectioned. I think the vet would have probably
waited to spay her if that interfered with her milk production.  He's been
in business for many years, so I trust he knew what he was doing.  This way,
Cesca only had to go through surgery once.   I've been keeping a close
watch, and I've seen the kitten nursing  several times, today.  Cesca
certainly LOOKS equipped to feed a kitten.  I've been giving her several
small meals every few hours, as that seems to be what she wants.  T.K. as I
call the kitten is a spunky little mite.  S/he has made several exploratory
circuits around the box s/he shares with Mama rather than just lying
passively on the blanket--not bad for a blind newborn.  If the kitten wasn't
any getting nourishment it would show up fast.  I am rather more sanguine
about the kitten's chances as of tonight, given Cesca's strong maternal
instinct. It's tiny little cries seem at least as strong to me as they were
yesterday, but keep the purrs coming.

For those of you who asked for pictures, I don't have any, yet.  For one
thing, Cesca is not crazy about the camera, and I think she's had enough
stress for the moment.  But fear not, the kitten's progress will be
documented to the best of my ability  =o) I just have a very basic,
idiot-proof point and shooter camera that doesn't always work. I'm also one
of those neanderthals who doesn't own a digital camera.

Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 24 Jun 2004 09:18 GMT
> She was spayed as well as C-sectioned. I think the vet would have probably
> waited to spay her if that interfered with her milk production.  He's been
> in business for many years, so I trust he knew what he was doing.  This
> way, Cesca only had to go through surgery once.   I've been keeping a close
> watch, and I've seen the kitten nursing  several times, today.

Oh, that's great! On both counts - the spaying and the fact that she's
nursing. (Though I wonder if it hurts to have a kitten suckling in an
area that was so recently cut open.)

> I am rather more sanguine
> about the kitten's chances as of tonight, given Cesca's strong maternal
> instinct. It's tiny little cries seem at least as strong to me as they
> were yesterday, but keep the purrs coming.

I'm glad to hear it! Cesca sounds like a great mom!

Joyce
Pat - 07 Jul 2004 01:29 GMT
> I wonder if it hurts to have a kitten suckling in an
> area that was so recently cut open.

I took care of a mama cat in Arizona whose kittens were way overdue. They
couldn't get born because they were all dead. The mama was spayed during the
C-section also. After that, the mama kept stealing another mama's babies to
nurse them. So it must not have hurt much.
Sherry - 24 Jun 2004 05:50 GMT
>> NEW BORN BABY KITTY!!
>> <shriek>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Melissa

Can't wait to see a picture. Thanks for helping them.

Sherry
:-\) Liz - 24 Jun 2004 03:08 GMT
Liz waves hands at Sherry...Hey...Sherry...it just so happens I have  Babe
and the 2 babettes... who in 8 weeks  will need good , indoor, forever
homes....:-) Liz

> NEW BORN BABY KITTY!!
> <shriek>
>
> This is so not fair. I am jealous. She has a baby kitty and I don't. Wah.
>
> Sherry
Sherry - 24 Jun 2004 04:51 GMT
>Liz waves hands at Sherry...Hey...Sherry...it just so happens I have  Babe
>and the 2 babettes... who in 8 weeks  will need good , indoor, forever
>homes....:-) Liz

Don't tempt me too much. I'm already valiantly fighting temptation. There is
the *sweetest* kitten at the shelter. Sort of in rough shape but I think
rehabilitate-able. (word??) And it's a POLYDACTYL. Just like Yo-Man. My
favorites. But back to my mantra.
I do not need five cats.
I do not need five cats.
I do not need five cats.
I do not need five cats.
I think I'll get a picture tomorrow. Then you all can ooh & aahh and THEN tell
me I do not need five cats.

Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 24 Jun 2004 05:09 GMT
>> Liz waves hands at Sherry...Hey...Sherry...it just so happens I have  Babe
>> and the 2 babettes... who in 8 weeks  will need good , indoor, forever
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Sherry

Oooo. Goodie! Piccies. :)
Marina - 24 Jun 2004 05:32 GMT
> Don't tempt me too much. I'm already valiantly fighting temptation. There is
> the *sweetest* kitten at the shelter. Sort of in rough shape but I think
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I think I'll get a picture tomorrow. Then you all can ooh & aahh and THEN tell
> me I do not need five cats.

Aww, Sherry. Four or five, what's the difference? ;o) Looking forward to
pics.

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Flippy - 26 Jun 2004 02:10 GMT
> I do not need five cats.

Why not, Sherry? *I* have five cats... as I'm sure many others here do...
:-)

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Pat - 07 Jul 2004 01:37 GMT
I've had as many as 17 at once. I'm a cat addict. Soon I will be back up to
six.... Thanks to Sherry!

> > I do not need five cats.
>
> Why not, Sherry? *I* have five cats... as I'm sure many others here do...
> :-)
Kreisleriana - 23 Jun 2004 20:02 GMT
>To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
>To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>white bib, and the tiniest little white paws.  It's little tail is maybe an
>inch long and as big around as a piece of string.

Paw and toes crossed for the little mite.

>Melissa

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O J - 23 Jun 2004 20:17 GMT
Mega-purrs that the little one stays healty.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Jo Firey - 23 Jun 2004 20:29 GMT
Lots of purrs that all continues to go well.  (And if it does, the next 6 or
8 weeks will be about as much fun as a person can have without breaking any
laws.)

Jo
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
> To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Melissa
lrulan - 23 Jun 2004 22:01 GMT
Cgts on the little kittie and the proud Mama. I hope both make it through
everything with flying colors. Give 'Cesca extra skritches from us.
Jazz & his mama

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from now until the end of time

> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
> To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Melissa
polonca12000 - 23 Jun 2004 22:19 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for Francesca (I love her name!) and her tiny
kitten! Plus lots of hugs for you for taking such good care of them,
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> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
<snip
Takayuki - 23 Jun 2004 22:28 GMT
>As of MOnday morning, still no kitten, to my disappointment and concern.  So
>Cesca had a c-section, during which the vet delivered one living and two
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>white bib, and the tiniest little white paws.  It's little tail is maybe an
>inch long and as big around as a piece of string.

Poor dead kittens!  But without you, probably all the babies and Cesca
would have died.  It's interesting that Cesca immediately bonded with
the kitten, even though she didn't experience giving birth to it.  It
sounds awfully cute!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Jun 2004 22:56 GMT
>>As of MOnday morning, still no kitten, to my disappointment and concern.  So
>>Cesca had a c-section, during which the vet delivered one living and two
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> the kitten, even though she didn't experience giving birth to it.  It
> sounds awfully cute!

Well, she ALMOST did - I think it's a matter of being hormonally ready,
isn't it?
m. L. Briggs - 24 Jun 2004 00:18 GMT
>To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
>To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Melissa

We are sending purrs for the tiny baby and the little mother to be
well and healthy.   PRRRRRRRRRRRR!   MLB
Yowie - 24 Jun 2004 00:34 GMT
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
> To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> white bib, and the tiniest little white paws.  It's little tail is maybe an
> inch long and as big around as a piece of string.

Congratulations to Mama and Meowmie.

Please please please please take lots of pictures for us to see.

Aww, baby kitty! Awwwww!!!!!

Yowie
Takayuki - 24 Jun 2004 04:03 GMT
>Congratulations to Mama and Meowmie.
>
>Please please please please take lots of pictures for us to see.

That reminded me of this story from
http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/90q1/snaps.html

Holiday pics
carol@uunet.uu.net (Carol Gibson)

This is a true story...

My father and stepmother knew that my baby brother was going to have
to be born by Caesarian. Nonetheless, flush with parental enthusiasm,
they decided that Dad was to take photos of the event. The roll of
film was duly taken and sent off to be processed, however when we got
the little package back we found it to be full of someone's holiday
snaps. There had been a mix-up and someone else was, at that very
moment, finding photos of an operation instead of beaches and smiling
faces...

When the developers arranged a swap they told us the other people had
been "very upset."
Mischief - 24 Jun 2004 02:53 GMT
Awwwwww baby kitten!!!!!

Dare I say it?   I guess wherever you got Francesca was having a two
for one deal.    hehehehehehehehehehehe

Kristi
Marina - 24 Jun 2004 04:30 GMT
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!

Purrs for Francesca and her baby. What  a surprise!

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LOL - 24 Jun 2004 06:28 GMT
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!

(snippage)

> Melissa

Awww, I'm jealous!  We are sending purrs to mom and baby!
------
Krista
LOL - 24 Jun 2004 06:28 GMT
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!

(snippage)

> Melissa

Awww, I'm jealous!  We are sending purrs to mom and baby!
------
Krista
Christine Burel - 24 Jun 2004 14:36 GMT
Melissa, major purrs and support for Cesca, TK and their very good meowmie!
Christine, Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a kitten!
> To distill this story down to its essentials,  I made a trip to the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Melissa
Adrian - 25 Jun 2004 12:18 GMT
> To discover my recently adopted cat girl, Francesca, was expecting a
> kitten!
<SNIP>

Major purrs that TK groes to be a strong and healthy cat and that s/he
and  Francesca give you many years of pleasure.
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