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CATherine - 19 Jun 2004 05:00 GMT
I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching furiously
and made his ouchie bloody. Back to square one. I sopped up the blood
and put aloe vera on the spot this time. And the E-collar went back
on. He was mad. Poor baby, suffering that itching and can't do
anything about it. Maybe the aloe vera will anesthetize it somewhat.

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CATherine
Adrian - 19 Jun 2004 16:51 GMT
> I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
> E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching furiously
> and made his ouchie bloody. Back to square one. I sopped up the blood
> and put aloe vera on the spot this time. And the E-collar went back
> on. He was mad. Poor baby, suffering that itching and can't do
> anything about it. Maybe the aloe vera will anesthetize it somewhat.

Poor Robin, continuing purrs.
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SUQKRT - 23 Jun 2004 18:41 GMT
Belated purrs that Robin heals fast and his liberated from the collar soon.
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CATherine - 24 Jun 2004 03:40 GMT
>Belated purrs that Robin heals fast and his liberated from the collar soon.
>Suz
> Macmoosette
>Thank Heavens There's Only One

Thanks. It does seem to be doing well. But this time I want the scab
to come off on it;s own before I remove the collar.

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CATherine
Christine Burel - 24 Jun 2004 14:49 GMT
Continued purrs coming for your sweet Robin to heal up so he can lose the
collar -- been there, done that!
Christine, Robin, Tucker, Omar, Oreo, & Midnight

> >Belated purrs that Robin heals fast and his liberated from the collar soon.
> >Suz
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> --
> CATherine
Takayuki - 19 Jun 2004 17:22 GMT
>I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
>E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching furiously
>and made his ouchie bloody. Back to square one. I sopped up the blood
>and put aloe vera on the spot this time. And the E-collar went back
>on. He was mad. Poor baby, suffering that itching and can't do
>anything about it. Maybe the aloe vera will anesthetize it somewhat.

Poor Robin!  It must be very uncomfortable.  We're sending healing and
non-itching purrs.
Marina - 19 Jun 2004 18:40 GMT
> I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
> E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching furiously
> and made his ouchie bloody. Back to square one. I sopped up the blood
> and put aloe vera on the spot this time. And the E-collar went back
> on. He was mad. Poor baby, suffering that itching and can't do
> anything about it. Maybe the aloe vera will anesthetize it somewhat.

Aww, poor Robin. Purrs that his sore heals soon so he doesn't have to wear
the horrible torture implement any more. ;o)

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CATherine - 20 Jun 2004 02:34 GMT
>> I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
>> E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching furiously
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>Aww, poor Robin. Purrs that his sore heals soon so he doesn't have to wear
>the horrible torture implement any more. ;o)

Later that night he forgave me and crawled up in my arms where I
cradled him and murmured sweet nothings to him. He was in seventh
heaven!

But this time I won't remove the torture thign until i am sure he is
completely healed and the scab is gone. That means at least a week now
with the new scratch. He really ripped the skin and I couldn't smooth
it down. It was all I could do to put aloe vera on it. So he will have
a lumpy scar there when it is healed.

The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
swabbed it with a Q-tip with hydrogen peroxide on it. Nothing down in
the ear but kitty ear wax.

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CATherine
Takayuki - 20 Jun 2004 05:04 GMT
>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
>swabbed it with a Q-tip with hydrogen peroxide on it. Nothing down in
>the ear but kitty ear wax.

I notice that Betty will sometimes inflict small scratches on her
ears, even though her claws are regularly clipped.  They seem to have
relatively shorter fur and thinner skin there.
CATherine - 20 Jun 2004 14:23 GMT
>>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
>>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>ears, even though her claws are regularly clipped.  They seem to have
>relatively shorter fur and thinner skin there.

I am just wondering if I can try to clip his rear claws. I have never
clipped a cat's claws, so I don't know how far down the quick is. I
have some little scissors for the dog. Maybe I ought to try it. Just
take off the sharp points.

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CATherine
Yowie - 21 Jun 2004 01:31 GMT
> >>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
> >>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> have some little scissors for the dog. Maybe I ought to try it. Just
> take off the sharp points.

I don't do it very often as I often end up with more scratches trying to
trim Shmogg's claws than I would if I just let them be, but if your kitty's
claws are clear-ish like Shmogg's you can see the "quick". I've found hte
best thing to use are toe nail clippers and cut them sideways with the
baldes parrelel to the length of the claw rather than doing them at the
front like you do with dog's claws. And yes, just take off the very tip. Its
not that bad with a compliant cat, but I got a Shmogg instead :-)

Yowie
LOL - 21 Jun 2004 06:26 GMT
> > >CATherine <pepsicola5cents@drop.me.bigsandytelco.com> wrote:> >
> > I am just wondering if I can try to clip his rear claws. I have never
> > clipped a cat's claws, so I don't know how far down the quick is. I
> > have some little scissors for the dog. Maybe I ought to try it. Just
> > take off the sharp points.

> I don't do it very often as I often end up with more scratches trying to
> trim Shmogg's claws than I would if I just let them be, but if your kitty's
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>
> Yowie

Heh.  The only time Mike's claws have ever been clipped was the other
day when he was anesthetized.  It's the only time it's ever been
possible.  I feel your pain.

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Krista
CATherine - 22 Jun 2004 04:10 GMT
>I don't do it very often as I often end up with more scratches trying to
>trim Shmogg's claws than I would if I just let them be, but if your kitty's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Yowie

(snicker) I can "see" you trying to clip Shmogg's claws! LOL! But I
just had a look at robin's claws and they are clear. So Thursday, when
I am off work, I will try to clip them. Otherwise, I will look for
some Soft paws.

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CATherine
Takayuki - 21 Jun 2004 04:41 GMT
>I am just wondering if I can try to clip his rear claws. I have never
>clipped a cat's claws, so I don't know how far down the quick is. I
>have some little scissors for the dog. Maybe I ought to try it. Just
>take off the sharp points.

Betty's my first cat, and I've never hit the quick.  The claw part is
transparent, and the quick is pink.  If Robin is also a pink-clawed
cat, I imagine it's similar.

Betty doesn't like her paws handled, but tolerates it when she's
sleepy and relaxed.  They can scratch quite well even with blunt
claws, so I don't know if it'll help with your situation.
CATherine - 22 Jun 2004 04:13 GMT
>>I am just wondering if I can try to clip his rear claws. I have never
>>clipped a cat's claws, so I don't know how far down the quick is. I
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>sleepy and relaxed.  They can scratch quite well even with blunt
>claws, so I don't know if it'll help with your situation.

Yeah, he is clear-clawed. I wonder about nipping the tips off and then
using an emery board to smooth them. Yeah, right! ;-P

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CATherine
Marina - 22 Jun 2004 04:20 GMT
> Yeah, he is clear-clawed. I wonder about nipping the tips off and then
> using an emery board to smooth them. Yeah, right! ;-P

LOL! If you decide to try that, will you please ask your son to video it?
And then post the video! ;o)

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CATherine - 23 Jun 2004 04:15 GMT
>> Yeah, he is clear-clawed. I wonder about nipping the tips off and then
>> using an emery board to smooth them. Yeah, right! ;-P
>
>LOL! If you decide to try that, will you please ask your son to video it?
>And then post the video! ;o)

I just asked Jeff and he got a big grin on his face. If I can't get
Soft paws, I will do the filing on video!

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CATherine
badwilson - 21 Jun 2004 05:44 GMT
> >>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
> >>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> have some little scissors for the dog. Maybe I ought to try it. Just
> take off the sharp points.

I clip Vinos claws every 2-3 weeks.  We call it the cattitude adjustment!
Heh!  He's really good about it but he's been trained since kittenhood.  You
can see the quick through the claw, it's where the pink starts.  On a sharp
claw, I can take off 3-5mm.  If you can't see the quick, I would start with
less.  In my experience, real cat claw trimmers work better than nail
clippers which tend to crush the claw and make it really splintery.  YMMV.
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CATherine - 22 Jun 2004 04:14 GMT
>I clip Vinos claws every 2-3 weeks.  We call it the cattitude adjustment!
>Heh!  He's really good about it but he's been trained since kittenhood.  You
>can see the quick through the claw, it's where the pink starts.  On a sharp
>claw, I can take off 3-5mm.  If you can't see the quick, I would start with
>less.  In my experience, real cat claw trimmers work better than nail
>clippers which tend to crush the claw and make it really splintery.  YMMV.

Well, I have some claw trimmers for the dog, but they ought to be the
same for a cat.

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CATherine
Denise VanDyke - 21 Jun 2004 21:29 GMT
>>>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
>>>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Since scratching is the problem, you might consider getting Robin fitted
out with Soft Paws on his back feet.  These are soft plastic caps that
are glued on over the claws.  They eventually grow out and fall off.
And they come in colors.  He'd still be able to scratch, but the claws
wouldn't be pointy and sharp anymore.  It would at least lessen the
damage he'd be doing to himself.  I'd suggest having a groomer or
someone at the vet's office put them on.  It's like putting on fake
fingernails, only onto a cat.  And I'd still leave the collar on him
until his owie is at least mostly healed up.

- Denise (who inflicted these on Brenna once when she had a problem with
scratching herself)
Duke of URL - 21 Jun 2004 22:23 GMT
> >>>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
> >>>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
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> Denise (who inflicted these on Brenna once when she had a problem with
> scratching herself)

And did they make your itch go away, Denise, hmm?
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Denise VanDyke - 21 Jun 2004 22:28 GMT
>>>>>The scratching was so frantic that he ripped into the skin where the
>>>>>earhole just begins to go down. So i had a look into his ear and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> And did they make your itch go away, Denise, hmm?

Gah.  You know what I meant!  Brenna had the soft paws on when Brenna
hab a problem with scratching Brenna!  And, no, the itch was not cured
by the soft paws.  It was cured by several rounds of Depo Medrol shots.

- Denise (who should know better as she [Denise] spent this weekend
around people with a sense of humor like his [Duke])
Duke of URL - 22 Jun 2004 12:49 GMT
> > And did they make your itch go away, Denise, hmm?
>
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> - Denise (who should know better as she [Denise] spent this weekend
> around people with a sense of humor like his [Duke])

(snicker)
CATherine - 22 Jun 2004 04:18 GMT
>Since scratching is the problem, you might consider getting Robin fitted
>out with Soft Paws on his back feet.  These are soft plastic caps that
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>- Denise (who inflicted these on Brenna once when she had a problem with
>scratching herself)

I am thinking about Soft paws. I suppose pet Smart has them? I am
going to keep the collar on until healing is completely done. But my
son noticed today he wanted to clean his bottom and couldn't; so i
have taken on that lowly chore!

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CATherine
badwilson - 22 Jun 2004 04:23 GMT
> >Since scratching is the problem, you might consider getting Robin fitted
> >out with Soft Paws on his back feet.  These are soft plastic caps that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> son noticed today he wanted to clean his bottom and couldn't; so i
> have taken on that lowly chore!

I don't know if you can just buy softpaws in the store and put them on
yourself.  I think you may need to go to the vet and have them put on there.
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Denise VanDyke - 22 Jun 2004 16:08 GMT
>>Since scratching is the problem, you might consider getting Robin fitted
>>out with Soft Paws on his back feet.  These are soft plastic caps that
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> --
> CATherine

I think they do, but I think it's worth the $ to have someone else put
them on the cat.  At least you'll need two (maybe three) people if you
do it yourselves.  Oh, and he might chew on them once they are on his
feet.  That's ok.  If they are glued on well he shouldn't be able to
chew them off.

- Denise
Duke of URL - 22 Jun 2004 21:46 GMT
> >>Since scratching is the problem, you might consider getting Robin fitted
> >>out with Soft Paws on his back feet.  These are soft plastic caps that
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> feet.  That's ok.  If they are glued on well he shouldn't be able to
> chew them off.

And aren't you glad you remembered to put "the cat" in that sentence?
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CATherine - 23 Jun 2004 04:18 GMT
>I think they do, but I think it's worth the $ to have someone else put
>them on the cat.  At least you'll need two (maybe three) people if you
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>- Denise

Well, I can hold and pet Robin and extend his claws while Jeff does
the gluing. He is real good with delicate precision work. Although it
might take quite awhile and a lot of treats! That is, if i can get
them at Pet smart.

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CATherine
Takayuki - 22 Jun 2004 23:42 GMT
>I am thinking about Soft paws. I suppose pet Smart has them? I am
>going to keep the collar on until healing is completely done. But my
>son noticed today he wanted to clean his bottom and couldn't; so i
>have taken on that lowly chore!

Hehehehe.  I'll bet Robin doesn't like it much either.
CATherine - 23 Jun 2004 04:24 GMT
>>I am thinking about Soft paws. I suppose pet Smart has them? I am
>>going to keep the collar on until healing is completely done. But my
>>son noticed today he wanted to clean his bottom and couldn't; so i
>>have taken on that lowly chore!
>
>Hehehehe.  I'll bet Robin doesn't like it much either.

It was so funny. I was holding his front half in my left arm and
wiping his bottom with my right hand. He kept moving his hiney
forward; but his front half stayed in place against my arm, so his
tummy area arched upward while his hind feet were treading against the
backs of his front feet! I just used an old sock moistened with warm
water and wiped him good. Maybe he thought I was getting fresh? ;-D

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CATherine
Takayuki - 23 Jun 2004 18:37 GMT
>It was so funny. I was holding his front half in my left arm and
>wiping his bottom with my right hand. He kept moving his hiney
>forward; but his front half stayed in place against my arm, so his
>tummy area arched upward while his hind feet were treading against the
>backs of his front feet! I just used an old sock moistened with warm
>water and wiped him good. Maybe he thought I was getting fresh? ;-D

That's so funny, playing the cat accordion with a moist sock!  If you
can do that to him, then claw clipping or gluing on softpaws should be
easy.
CATherine - 24 Jun 2004 04:54 GMT
>>It was so funny. I was holding his front half in my left arm and
>>wiping his bottom with my right hand. He kept moving his hiney
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>can do that to him, then claw clipping or gluing on softpaws should be
>easy.

He does pretty much let me do anything to him. He loves me very much.
So Friday I plan to check on Soft Paws at Pet Smart. If they don't
have them, then I will get out the emery board and clippers.

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CATherine
John F. Eldredge - 19 Jun 2004 22:55 GMT
>I looked at Robin's ouchie and decided to try him without the
>E-collar. Not one minute after it was off, he was scratching
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>on. He was mad. Poor baby, suffering that itching and can't do
>anything about it. Maybe the aloe vera will anesthetize it somewhat.

Dixie, my boss's indoor dog[1] and office mascot, had problems last
year with allergies and had to wear an Elizabethan collar for several
months.  This year, she seems to be doing better.  It took Dixie a
while to learn to lift her head up high when she wanted to climb
stairs so that the collar wouldn't catch on the edge of the step.

[1] They also have a German Shepherd, Clipper, who lives outdoors
except in the coldest part of winter.

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CATherine - 20 Jun 2004 02:13 GMT
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>while to learn to lift her head up high when she wanted to climb
>stairs so that the collar wouldn't catch on the edge of the step.

I checked with a vet about a collar first and she said that theirs are
heavier than what Pet Smart has. so I got Pet Smart's. It is also
about half the price. Even so, Robin does not like the weight of it on
his ears. We might try one on our dog this fall when her allergies
flare up. But it would have to be fastened to a tight harness to keep
it on. I would also like to look into the idea of a cortisone shot
rather than Prednisone pills. Last time we tried the pills, it started
doing damage to her kidneys.

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CATherine
 
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