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The world ended. Did you notice?
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Kreisleriana - 17 Jun 2004 14:08 GMT It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. I was saving the world. All right, I was sitting at the puter, playing BounceOut. THe world needs to be saved from exploding rubber balls, after all.
Stinky comes along and sits at my feet. YOO-OOOOW! he says. Pet me, Mommy. I reach down with one hand to pet him, but where's his head? I see. He has descended into meatloaf position. I can't reach him *and* save the world from the rubber balls! Does he care about the desperate situation? NO! YOOO-OOOWW! he says from meatloaf. MOMMY! PET ME!
Now, there is the First Officer's Chair for such situations. He can sit there, and I can reach him with one hand to skritch him as I continue to save the world (and rack up a pretty impressive score, too) . I pause the game --yes, I know you can't do that when the world is really in danger, and I can't do it more than once-- and scoop the little stinker up into the First Officer's Chair. Most of the time, he's got no problem sitting there while I click away. This time-- NO (YOW!) He needs absolute, incontrovertible proof of my serfdom. He jumps back down, resumes the same place, meatloafed next to my right foot. YOOOOOOW! I lean over and touch the top of his head.
BOOOOOOOM!
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jmcquown - 17 Jun 2004 15:16 GMT > It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. I was saving the > world. All right, I was sitting at the puter, playing BounceOut. THe [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ ROFL!!! I swear I think I heard something shortly after midnight. And I can't see the sun this morning. Hmmmm.
Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Jun 2004 01:28 GMT > It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. Ooooooo, an opportunity to ask something I've been wondering about for years! I remember from Star Trek that when Kirk would go off to investigate something, he'd leave Spock in charge things on the bridge. As he was on his way out, he'd say, "Spock, you have the con."
*What does that mean*???
I used to think he was saying, "You have the comm", as in, the *command*. So is "con" short for control?
Joyce
Tigger - 18 Jun 2004 02:07 GMT > > It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I used to think he was saying, "You have the comm", as in, the *command*. > So is "con" short for control? Stolen from Google.
[quote] According to my handy Webster's, "conn" is from "cond", shortened from the Middle English "conduen", from the Old French "conduire", from Latin "conducere"...
The Old French "conduire" is also modern French, and related to the English "conduct". It's most easily translated as "to drive" (as in "to drive a car").
So, to conn a ship is to drive a ship, logically enough. [quote]
jmcquown - 18 Jun 2004 02:38 GMT > > It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *What does that mean*??? Console. The command console.
Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Jun 2004 10:07 GMT > Console. The command console. Aha. Well, I was partially right - I thought they were saying "comm" for command, anyway.
Thanks, Joyce
David Stevenson - 18 Jun 2004 11:42 GMT >jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >Console. The command console. Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal sea-going terms.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 01:38 GMT > Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years > before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal > sea-going terms. OK, but what does "conn" (or "con" or however it's spelled) stand for, in sea-going terminology?
Joyce
Kreisleriana - 19 Jun 2004 13:47 GMT > > Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years > > before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Joyce It means the commander's seat. The commanding officer occupies the con. When he leaves it to go off duty, or for whatever reason, he tells the next in command, "You have the con."
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Steve Touchstone - 19 Jun 2004 15:16 GMT >>>OK, but what does "conn" (or "con" or however it's spelled) stand for, >>in sea-going terminology? > >It means the commander's seat. The commanding officer occupies the >con. When he leaves it to go off duty, or for whatever reason, he >tells the next in command, "You have the con." This got my curiosty going, so I googled and found http://www.navyslang.com/navyterms.html#c
"CONN (n) Temporary maneuvering command of the ship, exercised from the bridge when underway. The Officer of the Deck, or "OD", normally maintains this control. Even if the Captain is on the bridge, he must specifically relieve the OD of the Conn if he wishes to direct the ship. This is so that there is no doubt as to whose primary responsibility is the maneuvering of the vessel."
and from http://www.hostultra.com/~Exidor/Trivia/Navy_Trivia.htm
"Con, or Conn: Old English in origin, first used in the present sense to guide a ship into harbor about 1510. Some scholars claim it has a close affinity to the word, 'cunning' "
And to bring the discussion around to cats, from the second link, we have ""Let the Cat Out of the Bag"
1) Originally, this term simply meant to remove the cat (cat onine tails) from its baize bag, generally preliminary to administering punishment. The terms meaning today is to reveal a secret.
2) This has its origins in the grim ceremony of removing the rope or rawhide "cat-o'-nine-tails" from its carrying bag in preparation of flogging an offender. It was eventually applied to any other untimely, if less serious, revelation, which could lead to legal action or punishment."
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 23:42 GMT > Some scholars claim it has a close affinity to the word, 'cunning' " Some other scholars believe the word "cunning" is closely related to an Anglo-Saxon word that's not printable in a family newsgroup, describing an intimate part of a woman's anatomy. Apparently, both words are related to concepts of wisdom, cleverness, intuition, etc.
> 1) Originally, this term simply meant to remove the cat (cat > o'nine tails) from its baize bag, generally preliminary to > administering punishment. The term's meaning today is to reveal a > secret. You mean "letting the cat out of the bag" has nothing to do with an actual cat?? I always thought it made sense as a reference to a real, because once you let a secret out, it's very hard to get it back in - and so is a cat.
Joyce
Steve Touchstone - 20 Jun 2004 01:36 GMT >You mean "letting the cat out of the bag" has nothing to do with an >actual cat?? I always thought it made sense as a reference to a real, >because once you let a secret out, it's very hard to get it back in - >and so is a cat. That's what I always thought, and you're so right. When you let the cat out of the bag it's next to impossible to put the cat back in. Or in my case, let Rocky out of the carrier at TED and it will take three hoomins to put him back in.
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John F. Eldredge - 20 Jun 2004 03:49 GMT >>You mean "letting the cat out of the bag" has nothing to do with an >>actual cat?? I always thought it made sense as a reference to a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Or in my case, let Rocky out of the carrier at TED and it will take >three hoomins to put him back in. My experience has been that putting the cat into the carrier to take him or her to the vet is quite difficult. I once made the mistake of letting Katie see me carrying the carrier, and she immediately went into full Houdini mode. I ended up having to delay the vet visit by one day. Also, when it comes time to actually fit the cat into the carrier, they immediately sprout extra legs. Once you close the cage door, you immediately hear a full operatic rendition of "LET ME OUT NOW". I have never had a cat resist getting into the carrier at the vet's office, on the other hand, because they know that it means that they are about to return home.
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Marina - 20 Jun 2004 05:03 GMT > My experience has been that putting the cat into the carrier to take > him or her to the vet is quite difficult. I once made the mistake of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > vet's office, on the other hand, because they know that it means that > they are about to return home. That has been my experience too. It's near impossible to get the cat in the carrier at home, but at the vet's, all they want to do is GET BACK IN THE CARRIER. Don't know if they are even thinking of going home, just finding a safe place away from prodding hands and needles.
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Steve Touchstone - 20 Jun 2004 06:06 GMT >My experience has been that putting the cat into the carrier to take >him or her to the vet is quite difficult. I once made the mistake of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >vet's office, on the other hand, because they know that it means that >they are about to return home. Well, last summer I told the story of how I was taking one of the feral cats down to be neutered. He was estimated at 6-8 years old, and was totally wild when I had started feeding him a couple years earlier. Unfortunately, he had once been accidently trapped, and had learned to avoid traps. Fortunately, though, over time he calmed down, and let me stand nearby while he ate, and even accepted a few pets.
Then one day it happened. Poor guy, all he knew was that one minute he was eating, the next the horrible hoomin (me) dropped a towel over him. Before he could escape he'd been put inside a box. Then he was inside a roaring monster. When the monster stopped roaring the hoomin took him into a strange place where they put him in a cage and wouldn't feed him or let him have a drink. Next day they took him out and did unspeakable things to him until he fell asleep. When he woke up he was hurting and back in the cage. They finally gave him some food, but he was afraid to eat or drink anything. Another night passed, since the vet didn't get around to doing the snip job until late afternoon, and felt it better if he stayed the extra night to recover.
I showed up as soon as they opened to pick him up. The lady at the front desk, who as it turns out ran the non-profit neutering clinic, called the back to say bring up the black and white feral ex-tom (this was before he had a name). I watched as a girl took my carrier out of the storeroom and took it to the back. Then I heard a very unhappy cat swearing, telling the poor girl that there was no way he was going back in that blasted box. I watched through the little window in the door as second person went back to the room where commotion was. More cat swearing, Rocky no doubt asking, with volume cranked all the way up, which army was going to make him get in that box.
Everybody else in the waiting room was looking at the back where all the racket was. I swear if it had gone on much longer some of them would have grabbed their pets and ran out the door. I pretended ignorance and started reading the posters on the wall. When the phone rang I tried real hard not to notice the lady at the desk looking at me as she said she'd be right there.
She obviously knew how to handle stubborn cats (since it's a non profit clinic the first couple people may have been volunteers without much experience with demon cats). Within a mintue or two after she went to the back she came back with my carrier. Rocky continued his tirade, still at full volume, about what he was going to do when he got out.
When I got him home he forgave me almost immediately. I guess he figured I came back to rescue him from that terrible place. He's come a long ways from that time, but I'm dreading the day when I have to take him for his annual checkup and shots. Let's see, maybe I can get JD from upstairs, and Lyle from the next building to come over. If we trap him in the bathroom, maybe we could.... Hmmm, better have an ambulance and some EMTs with transfusion kits standing by....
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Marina - 20 Jun 2004 06:20 GMT <snip Rocky earning his name>
> When I got him home he forgave me almost immediately. I guess he > figured I came back to rescue him from that terrible place. He's come [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trap him in the bathroom, maybe we could.... Hmmm, better have an > ambulance and some EMTs with transfusion kits standing by.... LOL, Steve, purrs that Rocky stays healthy so you don't have to take him to TED's very often.
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hpickering@austin.rr.com - 20 Jun 2004 18:54 GMT >>My experience has been that putting the cat into the carrier to take >>him or her to the vet is quite difficult. I once made the mistake of [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >trap him in the bathroom, maybe we could.... Hmmm, better have an >ambulance and some EMTs with transfusion kits standing by.... ROFL That is a good one. My middle cat is strange, he likes the vet. Doesn't much like the ride there and back. My oldest cat, who is pretty mellow, hates going. I have to take the carpet out of the carrier, or he will "put his brakes on" when you have to get him out.
The youngest one, all I have to do is open the carrier and he gets right in. Once I took two cats to the vet for one appointment. I was running late and stuffed my oldest into the carrier. I did not check and the youngest was already in there.
Tigger - 20 Jun 2004 03:49 GMT > >You mean "letting the cat out of the bag" has nothing to do with an > >actual cat?? I always thought it made sense as a reference to a real, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in my case, let Rocky out of the carrier at TED and it will take three > hoomins to put him back in. Cali went for her annual the other day and would not come out of her carrier. The vet was holding the carrier upside down and still no Cali.
Leaving is never a problem, she is quite willing to climb in by herself. Since she knows she is going HOME!
Duke of URL - 19 Jun 2004 15:10 GMT > > Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years > > before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal > > sea-going terms. > > OK, but what does "conn" (or "con" or however it's spelled) stand for, > in sea-going terminology? con PRONUNCIATION: kn VARIANT FORMS: or conn TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: conned, con?ning, cons or conns Nautical To direct the steering or course of (a vessel). NOUN: 1. The station or post of the person who steers a vessel. 2. The act or process of steering a vessel. ETYMOLOGY: From cond, from Middle English conduen, from Old French conduire, from Latin condcere, to lead together. See conduce. The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition.
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kworley - 19 Jun 2004 19:29 GMT >>> Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years >>> before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > from Latin condcere, to lead together. See conduce. > The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Ah ha! it's linguistically related to "con game", as in to lead someone into a situation where you can take advantage of them...
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 23:37 GMT > Ah ha! it's linguistically related to "con game", as in to lead > someone into a situation where you can take advantage of them... That makes a lot of sense, but I've always heard that "con" as in "con man", "con game", etc, came from *confidence*. You have to earn someone's confidence before you can take advantage of them. Of course, the source I got that from (can't remember what it was) could also be wrong.
Joyce
Jo Firey - 19 Jun 2004 23:36 GMT > > Oh, no, surely not. "You have the conn [sic]" comes from many years > > before command consoles existed. Several Star Trek terms are normal [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce Conn - verb To control or direct the steering of a ship.
- noun Control of the steering of a ship, or the controls so used.
Early 17th century. Shortened from French conduire , from Latin conducere "conduct."
You may be more familiar with hearing "Conning Tower" which is a submarine control deck or an armored pilot house
Christine Burel - 18 Jun 2004 05:49 GMT Love it! ROFL! Christine
> It was a little past midnight, and I had the con. I was saving the > world. All right, I was sitting at the puter, playing BounceOut. THe [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/
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