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OT: I've raised a prude ;-)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 17 Jun 2004 16:49 GMT
Well, teenagers today... ;-)

So much about them being s*x-mad, drug-crazed, disrespectful, foul-mouthed
etc., etc.. & I've managed to raise a prude ;-)

Back in my young, free & single days, disco ruled, and queen was Donna Summer.
Today I was in Norwich with Nathan & we went into HMV. I treated myself to a CD
of Donna Summer tracks.

Coming back home in the car, Nathan suffered the indignity of his mother
driving with the stereo loud, to the sound of "Love to Love you baby" "I feel
love" "hot stuff" and the like.

Nathan's comment was "Good grief Mum, that girl has a one-track mind in her
vocals!" in his best 'I am a shocked teenager' voice.

Then when it got to the track "no more tears (enough is enough)" duo with
Streisand, when the vocals got to the bit where it says "I always dreamed I
find the perfect lover, but he turned out to be like every other man" Nathan
quipped 'And make no doubt about it Mum, she's had quite a few if her songs are
anything to go by!' in his best shocked voice ;-)

Hehe - I've raised a teenage prude... hmmm... sounds like the title of a bad
movie

Cheers, helen s

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Sherry - 17 Jun 2004 20:10 GMT
>Well, teenagers today... ;-)
>
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>Cheers, helen s

Heh. I can't relate. Donna Summer would be Pat Boone compared to what they
listened to. I once ejected  a cassette tape of theirs and flung it out the
window down I-40.

Sherry
Yoj - 17 Jun 2004 22:02 GMT
> Well, teenagers today... ;-)
>
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> Cheers, helen s

In these days where STD's and teen pregnancies are common, there are a
lot worse things to have raised.  I'd say you've done a pretty good job,
Mom!

Joy
m. L. Briggs - 17 Jun 2004 22:43 GMT
>> Well, teenagers today... ;-)
>>
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>
>Joy

I heartily concur.  We all hope our kids will do better than we did.
Congrats!
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 08:59 GMT
>I heartily concur.  We all hope our kids will do better than we did.
>Congrats!

Thank you :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Yowie - 17 Jun 2004 22:44 GMT
> > Well, teenagers today... ;-)
> >
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> lot worse things to have raised.  I'd say you've done a pretty good job,
> Mom!

I know I've gotten old by the fact that 1) I don't understand the lyrics as
they're sung and 2) even when Joel dutifully tells me what words they are
'singing', I still have no idea what they are talking about - and 3) When he
explains to me the meaning behind the lyrics, I wish I hadn't asked. *Ewww*

Yowie, who was not happy to be told that one of her favourite songs "Where
the Wild Roses Grow" by Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue is not about one's
beloved tragically passing away, but about a gruesome murder.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 08:58 GMT
>In these days where STD's and teen pregnancies are common, there are a
>lot worse things to have raised.  I'd say you've done a pretty good job,
>Mom!
>
>Joy

Thanks (blushes at the compliment)..

With Nathan I've always been very open about such issues, talking to him about
them as he grows up - in language he understands. He knows all about the above
- and I've told him that as and when he's ready for the "s" word, he *must* use
a condom - and I've told him *why*. I've even told him that if he's too
embarrassed to purchase them - I have no such embarrassment and will get them.
He seems to be remarkably level-headed, so hopefully the honest approach and
explaining the whys & wherefores has worked. Indeed, my own mum was incredibly
up-tight and I never found out anything from her which helped me as I grew up
:-(

Cheers, helen s

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Sam Nash - 18 Jun 2004 04:37 GMT
> Well, teenagers today... ;-)
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Nah, Helen.  I'd say you've done a fine job.
Sam
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 09:04 GMT
>Nah, Helen.  I'd say you've done a fine job.
>Sam

Thanks Sam - I appreciate that. As a parent, you can only try your best & learn
from the mistakes you think were made with you when you were growing up - and,
if you had a happy childhood, from the good things. Plus tell and show your
child that he or she is loved every single day. Even though Nathan is now 15,
we hug every morning as soon as he's come downstairs for breakfast, and last
thing at night before he goes off to bed. He's the same with his Dad too.

Cheers, helen s

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Seanette Blaylock - 18 Jun 2004 20:41 GMT
wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) had
some very interesting things to say about Re: I've raised a prude ;-):

>>Nah, Helen.  I'd say you've done a fine job.
>Thanks Sam - I appreciate that. As a parent, you can only try your best & learn
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>we hug every morning as soon as he's come downstairs for breakfast, and last
>thing at night before he goes off to bed. He's the same with his Dad too.

Very impressive, that you have an affectionate teenager.

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 20:45 GMT
>Very impressive, that you have an affectionate teenager.

One is never too young or too old for hugs :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Seanette Blaylock - 18 Jun 2004 21:05 GMT
wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) had
some very interesting things to say about Re: I've raised a prude ;-):

>>Very impressive, that you have an affectionate teenager.
>One is never too young or too old for hugs :-)

We know that, but a lot of people don't. [Do teenagers qualify as
people? ;-)]

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 21:09 GMT
>[Do teenagers qualify as
>people? ;-)]

Some do :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Takayuki - 18 Jun 2004 05:01 GMT
>Then when it got to the track "no more tears (enough is enough)" duo with
>Streisand, when the vocals got to the bit where it says "I always dreamed I
>find the perfect lover, but he turned out to be like every other man" Nathan
>quipped 'And make no doubt about it Mum, she's had quite a few if her songs are
>anything to go by!' in his best shocked voice ;-)

I thought this was just a British sterotype :)  From RHF:

"You English are too stuffy. You set yourselves apart too much. Look
at me... in me, I have Italian blood, French blood, some Polish blood,
a little Indian blood, and even some Swedish blood. What do you say to
that?"

"Very sporting of your mother."
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 09:04 GMT
>I thought this was just a British sterotype :)  From RHF:
>
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>
>"Very sporting of your mother."

And where was the beverage warning on that one???

Cheers, helen s :-D

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Jun 2004 10:19 GMT
> I thought this was just a British sterotype :)  From RHF:
>
> "You English are too stuffy....

I think Americans are more uptight about sex than the English. Remember,
it was the English who kicked the Puritans out - and where did they go?

Joyce
Takayuki - 18 Jun 2004 21:01 GMT
> > I thought this was just a British sterotype :)  From RHF:
> >
> > "You English are too stuffy....
>
>I think Americans are more uptight about sex than the English. Remember,
>it was the English who kicked the Puritans out - and where did they go?

Holland? :)
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Jun 2004 21:10 GMT
>Holland? :)

Oh in the Netherlands they aren't prudish at all... thinks Amsterdam...

Cheers, helen s

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 01:41 GMT
>>Holland? :)

> Oh in the Netherlands they aren't prudish at all... thinks Amsterdam...

> Cheers, helen s

It seemed to be a joke, though I don't get it... Tak? 'splain me, please?

Joyce
David Yehudah - 19 Jun 2004 01:55 GMT
Yeah, Tak, explain to the lady about window shopping in Amsterdam. :-)

>  >>Holland? :)
>
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> Joyce

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Takayuki - 19 Jun 2004 03:04 GMT
> >>Holland? :)
>
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>It seemed to be a joke, though I don't get it... Tak? 'splain me, please?

I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 19 Jun 2004 08:15 GMT
>I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
>Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.

Indeed you were :-)

Netherlands today is not prudish though.

Cheers, helen s

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 11:08 GMT
> I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
> Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.

They must not have lasted very long there... the Netherlands is one of
the least "Puritannical" countries I've ever heard of. Dave Y mentions
the window-shopping, and I can just imagine! They're very down to earth,
those Dutch. Clearly the prude faction didn't gain much control in that
culture. :)

Joyce
Marina - 19 Jun 2004 12:50 GMT
> They must not have lasted very long there... the Netherlands is one of
> the least "Puritannical" countries I've ever heard of. Dave Y mentions
> the window-shopping, and I can just imagine! They're very down to earth,
> those Dutch. Clearly the prude faction didn't gain much control in that
> culture. :)

You're right. I think the Netherlands must be one of the least prudish
countries in the world.

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Takayuki - 19 Jun 2004 22:54 GMT
> > I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
> > Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.
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>those Dutch. Clearly the prude faction didn't gain much control in that
>culture. :)

That's why the Puritans went there - the Dutch were very tolerant of
different religions.  After a while, the Puritans seem to have decided
that they were just *too* tolerant.  We're told this story over and
over again around here in grade school especially around November.
SUQKRT - 29 Jun 2004 19:35 GMT
> > I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
> > Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.
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>those Dutch. Clearly the prude faction didn't gain much control in that
>culture. :)

Chiming in late here: The Dutch then sent them on to Western Michigan a very
conservative place, If you're ever in Gran Rapids, Grand Haven etc., check out
the phonebooks they're full of Van/Vander Whatsits.
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John F. Eldredge - 19 Jun 2004 22:44 GMT
>>dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom>
>>wrote:  
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>I was just kidding.  It was a reference to the Puritan emigration to
>Holland when they were escaping religious persecution in England.

The Puritans moved from England to Holland to escape religious
persecution, then moved from Holland to Massachusetts to escape the
religious tolerance in Holland (they wanted to have a society
consisting of only Puritans).  These are the folks that founded the
Plymouth Bay Colony, and that Americans remember each year at
Thanksgiving.

Modern-day Amsterdam is known for having a legal red-light district
(legal prostitution).

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