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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / June 2004OT: Schoolgirl look no more? LONG, sorry
I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* short hair, with all the colours of the rainbow. Will have to scan some pictures one day). The last few years, I've had trouble with my shoulders and neck, and just making a pony tail is getting very painful. So, after thinking it over for a long time, I've decided to cut off my hair. Might not sound like much of a decision to make, but this long hair of mine has become a huge part of who I am, especially since it turned grey then white. Yesterday I went and booked the hairdresser for after my last day at work before the holidays. Then I spent most of the evening looking for pictures of the kind of hairstyle I would like to have. Today I had a dental appointment, and afterwards, when I was on my way to the office, a woman in the street came and tapped my arm and asked me if my pigtails were real. I said, "Yes, of course," and she said, "Please don't ever cut them off! There are too many of us baldies around already." (She was wearing a hat and no hair was showing. I don't know if she was actually bald or just short-haired.) Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete stranger in the street. And there was nothing strange about the woman, she seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/  SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki <snip> > Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? > No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete > stranger in the street. And there was nothing strange about the woman, she > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ It is odd! When I got tired of dealing with my very long hair, my hairdresser advised me not to get it all cut off at once, so I let her cut it to a length a bit below my shoulders. That lasted for a while; then I got it cut very short, which I'm sticking with because I like it and it's practical. Cheryl >Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? >No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete >stranger in the street. And there was nothing strange about the woman, she >seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange >coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ That *is* disconcerting, isn't it? Almost like, a sign or something. If you're not sure, wait a month, then see how you feel about it. It's a big decision. You'll miss it at first, for sure. The lady was right--you don't see long tresses especially on women my age very much. Mine is just below my shoulders, but is very fine and I just pull it back in a clip. I think about a short 'do every once in a while, but I honestly don't know how to primp, I've never done it. I think short hair would be more trouble! Sherry > >Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? > >No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > every once in a while, but I honestly don't know how to primp, I've never done > it. I think short hair would be more trouble! I've had long hair, I've had short hair (*really* short hair). And personally, unless buzz-cuts ever become suitable on proffesional women, I"m leaving it long. I just have to pull it back and pop it in a pony tail and off I go. I don't *have* bad hair days, because all my hair days look the same - in pony tail or plait. Short hair needed to be styled and I really couldn't be bothered anymore. That and I'm too cheap to go to the hairdresser every month to make sure it keeps the style that it was intended for. A buzz-cut I could do myself, or get Joel to do (I do his buzz-cut, takes 5 minutes out on the back patio. I would not pay $30 for that!) but I need to keep at least a semblance of feminity at work. Yowie >I've had long hair, I've had short hair (*really* short hair). And >personally, unless buzz-cuts ever become suitable on proffesional women, I"m [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Yowie You're my kind o' gal, Yowie. Exactly my attitude about standing in front of the mirror for an hour "fixing" my hair....I won't do it. I have a big assortment of clips and it takes me 2 minutes tops. I also cut DH's hair. One day we figured, he doesn't have *that* much hair left anyway, so why not try? Saves 10 bucks and I am now quite good at it. The first haircut he looked a little like an Auschwitz survivor or something, but I did get better. He couldn't have cared less though. Sherry > I've had long hair, I've had short hair (*really* short hair). And > personally, unless buzz-cuts ever become suitable on proffesional women, I"m [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > takes 5 minutes out on the back patio. I would not pay $30 for that!) but I > need to keep at least a semblance of feminity at work. The going to a hairdresser each month is what is my main problem with having short hair - not really the expense, just the bother. I've had short hair before, and my job doesn't pose that kind of restrictions on me, so there's really no other reason not to do it - except that this complete stranger came up to me and told me never to cut my hair just when I had set my plans in motion for doing just that. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > > I've had long hair, I've had short hair (*really* short hair). And > > personally, unless buzz-cuts ever become suitable on proffesional women, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > came up to me and told me never to cut my hair just when I had set my plans > in motion for doing just that. I don't think you have to go every month. I go every 2 months and my haircut is quite short. For the last 2 weeks, it needs a bit more styling maintenance to look ok, but I really never spend more than 10 min in the morning. -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > A buzz-cut I could do myself, or get Joel to do (I do his buzz-cut, takes > 5 minutes out on the back patio. I would not pay $30 for that!) but I > need to keep at least a semblance of feminity at work. In a lab? I don't know much about the politics and social expectations of your workplace, but from what you've said about it, you're a biologist or chemist or something like that, right? And you work in a lab? I'm surprised that you would need to conform to gender roles in that kind of work environment. This reminds me of a story. A friend of mine and her boyfriend used to go to the barbershop together and get matching buzz cuts. The first time they did this, the barber did her partner's hair with no questions, but when she asked for the same thing, he said, "I don't do ladies' hair." She responded, "It's just HAIR." So he gave her the same cut, and lo and behold, it came out fine! (Later, she and the bf buzzed each other's hair - much cheaper!) Joyce > > A buzz-cut I could do myself, or get Joel to do (I do his > buzz-cut, takes > 5 minutes out on the back patio. I would not pay [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce I worked with a woman several years ago who was a Unix programmer. Professional woman, wore nice suits, etc. One day she came in looking for all the world like Demi Moore after she had her hair buzzed for that military flick. (The name escapes me and isn't important.) It was about 1/2 inch long all over. It took us a few days to get used to, but after that no big deal; it was so *Kathy* :) Jill > I worked with a woman several years ago who was a Unix programmer. LOL, a Unix programmer is a geek among geeks, a geek's geek. Definitely not necessary to be gender-conformist! :) Joyce > > A buzz-cut I could do myself, or get Joel to do (I do his buzz-cut, takes > > 5 minutes out on the back patio. I would not pay $30 for that!) but I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that you would need to conform to gender roles in that kind of work > environment. The lab part (the bit that I like doing) isn't bothered by gender roles. Its the shmoozing, the meetings, and the political aspect that needs a semblence of "looking proffesional". And whilst I"m far enough down on the food chain that for most days I can get away with wearing the androgynous overalls and/or safety clothes, the organisation I work for is still very conservative and getting a buzz-cut would cause a *major* stir (not to mention the accusations of lesbianism, or worse, "not caring about her career"). Someone got a very discreet nose peircing once, and was asked, just as discreetly, not to wear it to work by their supervisor because it didn't give a proffesional image (mostly to the supervisor). Realistically, I "ruined" my career the second I got pregnant, but the pay is good, the conditions OK, and its only 20 minutes from home. And quite frankly, I have never been particularly career orientated - I need a job to cover my expenses and to support my family, and this job covers that without being totally intrusive on the rest of my life. If I got too much further up the rungs, while the pay would be significantly better, it owuld not be worth the sacrifices I'd have to make in other areas of my life. As it is, I don't want to leave Cary to go back to work, but the bills still have to paid, whether I want to go back to work or not. Yowie > the organisation I work for is still very > conservative and getting a buzz-cut would cause a *major* stir How about with some cool earrings? I mean matching earrings, one on each ear. :) I think that looks very chic, and not unfeminine, either, especially with some makeup. (Though that still might not be conservative enough for them, and the bother of makeup might not be worth the buzz cut!) > Realistically, I "ruined" my career the second I got pregnant Oh GRRRRRRRR!!!! That really makes me mad!! Pregnancy shouldn't ruin a woman's career. What is wrong with them?? Joyce On Fri, 18 June, Joyce wrote: >>How about with some cool earrings? I mean matching earrings, one on each >ear. :) I think that looks very chic, and not unfeminine, either, especially >with some makeup. (Though that still might not be conservative enough for >them, and the bother of makeup might not be worth the buzz cut!) If short hair with makeup and earrings is good enough for Judy Dench (the converted Shakespearean actress who now plays "M" in the James Bond films) it's good enough for anyone. Judy Dench! Puuurrrrr!! Regards and Purrs, O J > > the organisation I work for is still very > > conservative and getting a buzz-cut would cause a *major* stir [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with some makeup. (Though that still might not be conservative enough for > them, and the bother of makeup might not be worth the buzz cut!) Ah, the problem is that the reason I want a buzz cut is so I can get up in the morning as late as physically possible. Doing a face and finding matchign earrings of the mornign would defeat the point of the buzz cut. Heck,t hese days I don't wear anything that doesn't come out of the dryer with severe wrinkles, and I don't think I've ironed anything in *years* (but I do have an iron now... somwhere) > > Realistically, I "ruined" my career the second I got pregnant > > Oh GRRRRRRRR!!!! That really makes me mad!! Pregnancy shouldn't ruin > a woman's career. What is wrong with them?? Unfortunatley its the practicality of my job. With a kid, I can't sponteously work back for more than, say, half an hour. I can't easily come in for late shifts. I can't just toddle off to other states or overseas on a moment's notice, because although Joel will be the main carer, I still am attached to the feeders, and, sod that, I *like* spending time with Cary. Where I work, being a Mum with the responsibilities that go with it, just don't fit with the corporate culture. Thats because the corporate heavies all have "Samantha the Witch" - type stay-at-home wives who are content to support their husband's career. And as much as I love Joel and think it will be great as a stay at home Dad, the reality of it is I'm still the Mum around here, and those responsibilites will always come first. (Like making doctors appointments, organising tax, making sure there is something for dinner (Joel will cook it, yes, but probably won't "organise" it), you know, being a domestic manager). that I can't just ring up and say "I won't be home tonight" is, in effect, going to block most career oppurtunities. But I knew that before I got pregnant. Yowie > Ah, the problem is that the reason I want a buzz cut is so I can get up > in the morning as late as physically possible. Doing a face and finding > matchign earrings of the mornign would defeat the point of the buzz cut. Well, I thought that might be the case... having to put on makeup would cancel out the benefits of an easy 'do. > Where I work, being a Mum with the responsibilities that go with it, > just don't fit with the corporate culture. That says it all, doesn't it? Joyce > > > Realistically, I "ruined" my career the second I got pregnant ...> With a kid, I can't > sponteously work back for more than, say, half an hour. I can't easily come > in for late shifts. I can't just toddle off to other states or overseas on a > moment's notice, because although Joel will be the main carer, I still am > attached to the feeders, and, sod that, I *like* spending time with Cary. > Where I work, being a Mum with the responsibilities that go with it, just > don't fit with the corporate culture. ...And as much as I love Joel and think it will > be great as a stay at home Dad, the reality of it is I'm still the Mum > around here, and those responsibilites will always come first. (Like making [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > knew that before I got pregnant. > Yowie I totally understand your feelings. Although I have worked jobs that pay money, I have always considered motherhood my primary and most important career. Much of the time I was fortunate enough to be a stay-at-home mother. Other times, I juggled part-time jobs with motherhood. However, there are always bills to pay. Jim and I worked as a team, being careful money managers and with him taking on the primary bread winner responsibilities, while I also picked up some of that load during lean times. But, our daughters' emotional and physical needs always came first. If you and Joel can manage with your current arrangement, more power to you. You have my utmost admiration. However, if you find that you need to make some adjustments at home so that you can provide financial support to your family, remember that you don't have to be "superwoman." You have a partner in Joel. You both share the role of parent. You need to take care not to fall into the trap we women tend to set that makes it difficult for our partners to help us with the parenting responsibilities. If Joel is there, he can learn to organize the meals, take Cary to the doctor, do the laundry and grocery shopping, etc. Encourage his efforts. Don't undermine them, because he will have a different style than you do, and you need to cut him some slack while he is learning. Don't deny him his opportunity to shine. Breast feeding gives you special bonding time with Cary. Nobody else will have that bond, and nobody can take it away. You can take satisfaction that your ability to nurture and nourish him did not stop when he was born. You are giving him the best possible start in life. Part of being a parent is also leaning to let go. While you are breast feeding, you can express milk and freeze it to be used during times when you are not there. Doing that can give you more flexibility on those times you are asked at work to stay late or be gone. Breast feeding will not last forever. Cary will graduate to solid food, most likely in a matter of months. You will find other ways to continue the bond, and he will always know you are his Mum. (Hugs) Annie >I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s >and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >hair was showing. I don't know if she was actually bald or just >short-haired.) She may be on chemotherapy. She may have been telling you how lucky you are to have your hair. Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote > She may be on chemotherapy. She may have been telling you how lucky > you are to have your hair. That thought did cross my mind. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > >I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > >and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ This is a good segue to my suggestion: There is an organization where you can donate your hair, which is used to make wigs for people on chemo. I've worn short hair for years. I'm lucky enough to have just a tiny bit of natural curl. I wash my hair, comb it, then shape it with a round brush and let it air dry. No muss, no fuss, and it always looks neat and nice. Only you can make the decision, of course. Joy >> >I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the >mid-80s [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Joy Me too. For years I had nice, healthy, shiny short hair with a nice natural curl that needed nothing more than to be washed, moved around a little bit, then voila. But could I leave it alone? Nooooooo. It was really nice hair, so I figured how much nicer lots of it would be. Now I have hair that does absolutely nothing that I want it to do, and I'm still too stubborn to admit defeat and cut it off again. I waited all this time to have long hair, dammit, and I'm going to have it. Check with me in six months. ;) Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ >This is a good segue to my suggestion: There is an organization where >you can donate your hair, which is used to make wigs for people on >chemo. ---------------------<snip>---------------------- That's what I did with my hair when I got it cut. I'd been letting it grow for a decade. Too bad they couldn't have used the beard hair too. Now, there's barely enough left for Lady Jane Grey to snuggle in. Regards and Purrs, O J > I've had long hair about 15 years now. Today I > had a dental appointment, and afterwards, when I was on my way to the > office, a woman in the street came and tapped my arm and asked me if [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > such a strange coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my > hair any longer. :o/ That's funny! Until a couple of years ago I had hair down to the middle of my back (that's as long as it would grow). I went into one of those "quick cut" places to get the dead ends trimmed off. The stylist looked at me as I walked over and said "Oh no, I will *not* cut that hair off!" How odd! I've never heard of a stylist refusing to cut someone's hair before! She relaxed when I said it was just a trim. I did wind up getting it cut later, but Marina, you don't have to go "short short". I got mine cut to just past my shoulders. I still feel like I've got my long hair. Short hair on me is really not *me*. Another thing to consider; if you're used to braids or ponytails, some of those short cuts that look so "easy" aren't. Do you want to get up and have to fuss with your hair? I sure don't! Good luck with your decision. Jill In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "jmcquown" > Short hair on me is really not *me*. Another thing to > consider; if you're used to braids or ponytails, some of those > short cuts that look so "easy" aren't. Do you want to get up > and have to fuss with your hair? I sure don't! This is why I'm not happy with my cut. At the beach (and the summer wherever you are) you need carefree and clip it or tie it up and mine won't grow out to that in a month. <pout> It takes way too much time in the morning to do anything decent with it and I still feel like I'm having a bad hair day everyday now. SignatureCheryl > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ Maybe she was a hair angel? :-) Twice now I've had weird experiences where someone would come up and talk to me about something that I was wrestling with. Once it happened when I was with my brother and he looked at me and said exactly what I was thinking. "Are you aware that we just talked to an angel?" I was very surprised since my brother is pretty much a no nonsense type person. Anyway, maybe you should wait a few weeks and then get just get a couple of inches off if you're still feeling like it and see what you think. Even tho it will grow back it will be a huge change to make all at once! SignatureMargaret Fine mefine@mindspring.com > Maybe she was a hair angel? :-) Twice now I've had weird experiences > where someone would come up and talk to me about something that I was > wrestling with. Once it happened when I was with my brother and he > looked at me and said exactly what I was thinking. "Are you aware that > we just talked to an angel?" I was very surprised since my brother is > pretty much a no nonsense type person. When I was about 20 years old, I had a lot of problems getting along with my dad, and we had a lot of huge fights. One night I remember he kept saying, "It's not all my doing. You're responsible too. I'm just a person, I'm not just your dad," etc. The next day I went with some friends to a tea house where "psychics" would read your tea leaves when you were finished. (They look into your cup and divine information from the leaves at the bottom.) I'm not especially into stuff like that, but it was for fun. Well, first she read one friend's leaves, and it was all about her career issues. The second friend's was about creativity and art. When she read mine, she said, "You have a troubled relationship with your father. But you have to remember that he's just a person too, and now that you're an adult, it's a two-way street, so you have to try harder, too." I almost fell off my chair!! Of course, one of the friends I went with happened to be at my father's house with me when this fight was happening. So maybe she met with the "psychic" and told her about it... I don't know. I'm a very down-to-earth type of person and not given to spiritual or occult beliefs, but to tell you the truth, I'd rather believe the tea leaf reader was a true psychic (I do believe that is possible). The alternative - that my friend was interfering and imposing her beliefs on me - is more disturbing... It took me years to be open to that message anyway (that my dad is just a person), but I think it was a wise message from a stranger. Joyce > > Maybe she was a hair angel? :-) Twice now I've had weird experiences > > where someone would come up and talk to me about something that I was [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Joyce Wow. That is just too coincidental and it seems like your friend would have given themselves away if it were a set up, don't you think? I went to a psychic once with a friend. Her line with me was that I was going to be well off, happy, etc. I thought this is what she told everyone (this was before I heard my friends reading) but as I was leaving she stopped me and said "You didn't ask the question that is really in your heart but I'll give you the answer anyway. As much as you love him he loves you" I was floored since I had been wondering (for no reason I might add) if my husband loved me as much as I loved him. Then I heard my friends reading. My friend asked the psychic if she would ever be rich. The psychic said Listen you will never do more in your life but get by. You shouldn't even ask about money because so many others areas of your life are screwed up. Work on the relationship with your husband because he is very sick. Work on your own health because you don't want to leave your kids orphans. My friend was really upset because she was having marital problems but her husband was not sick. ABout six weeks later her husband did get very sick and was permanently disabled and almost died several times. Made a believer out of me. This person read auras. Ever since then I do not discount things like that. SignatureMargaret Fine mefine@mindspring.com >I'm a very down-to-earth > type of person and not given to spiritual or occult beliefs, but to tell > you the truth, I'd rather believe the tea leaf reader was a true psychic > (I do believe that is possible). I'm like that too, don't believe in that kind of stuff much. But sometimes I think there must be some truth to it. When Dennis was 19, his mom was friends with a psychic who told her that Dennis would get married at age 28 after having lived with 2 other women who were both older than him. But the woman he would end up marrying would be 4-5 years younger and from a European country and would have red hair. It all happened exactly like that too. Scary! -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ Boy, that's wierd. I don't blame you for doubts. Maybe you just need to sleep on it a bit. Hair is hard to part with when you have had it that long. That being said, it's also kind of fun to have a sudden complete change, which only happens with cutting, not growing out.Be sure to keep us posted. "Karen Chuplis" <kchuplis@alltel.net> wrote in > Boy, that's wierd. I don't blame you for doubts. Maybe you just need to > sleep on it a bit. Hair is hard to part with when you have had it that long. > That being said, it's also kind of fun to have a sudden complete change, > which only happens with cutting, not growing out.Be sure to keep us posted. It is fun, and I like going to extremes in this sort of "safe" way, if you know what I mean. :o) Besides, it's time for something radical. When I turned 30, I quit smoking, quit my job, and entered university. I will be 40 this year, and I need to do *something*, even if it's only cutting off my hair. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > It is fun, and I like going to extremes in this sort of "safe" way, if you > know what I mean. :o) Besides, it's time for something radical. When I > turned 30, I quit smoking, quit my job, and entered university. I will be 40 > this year, and I need to do *something*, even if it's only cutting off my > hair. I think I'm addicted to change :-) I quit my job when I was thirty too - would have been embarassed if I were talking to myself as a 16 yo saying that I didn't like my job but was afraid to change. As a 16 yo, I would never have imagined myself being afraid to quit a job. To protect myself from the horrified glare of the non-existent 16 yo, I quit my job and then all this great stuff started happening. I'll be forty in a couple of years - something's brewing :D Susan M Otis and Chester >It is fun, and I like going to extremes in this sort of "safe" way, if you >know what I mean. :o) Besides, it's time for something radical. When I >turned 30, I quit smoking, quit my job, and entered university. I will be 40 >this year, and I need to do *something*, even if it's only cutting off my >hair. I've already declared that this year coming (my 39th is in July) is going to be a year of doing "different". I'm blowed if I'm going to age gracefully. Any suggestions as to what I can do? Nothing illegal or painful mind you! SignatureCathi >>It is fun, and I like going to extremes in this sort of "safe" way, if you >>know what I mean. :o) Besides, it's time for something radical. When I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >gracefully. Any suggestions as to what I can do? Nothing illegal or >painful mind you! Take a hot air balloon ride! >I've already declared that this year coming (my 39th is in July) is >going to be a year of doing "different". I'm blowed if I'm going to age >gracefully. Any suggestions as to what I can do? Nothing illegal or >painful mind you! You should take a cruise on the Queen Mary 2, build a shed, take up oil painting, and go to nursing school. :) >>I've already declared that this year coming (my 39th is in July) is >>going to be a year of doing "different". I'm blowed if I'm going to age [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You should take a cruise on the Queen Mary 2, build a shed, take up >oil painting, and go to nursing school. :) Am planning to buy a shed this weekend ... does that count? As for going to nursing school, I worked in the National Health Service in admin roles for eight years, and have nothing but admiration for nursing staff. But there's no way I would ever do it. Oil painting - would glass painting do? And the cruise ... nice idea, but I'd need to win the lottery! SignatureCathi > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ I'm sorry to hear you have probs with your shoulders and neck. Have you tried "stick-gymanstics" (keppijumppa)? Many of my work buddies do it and they say it helps their aching shoulders and necks. We're all mostly sitting at computers, so many of us get stiff shoulders. Here's a Finnish site with pics (drawings) to give you the general idea: http://www.yths.fi/suomi/terveystietoa/keppijumppa.htm And it sure was spooky with the lady addressing you on the street about your hair like that... SignatureChristine in Vantaa, Finland christal63 (at) yahoo (dot) com photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/christal63 Laku: DS B G 4.11 Y L W C+ I+++ T++/- A+ E H+ S+ V++ F Q+ P- B PA PL > I'm sorry to hear you have probs with your shoulders and neck. Have you > tried "stick-gymanstics" (keppijumppa)? Many of my work buddies do it > and they say it helps their aching shoulders and necks. We're all mostly > sitting at computers, so many of us get stiff shoulders. > Here's a Finnish site with pics (drawings) to give you the general idea: > http://www.yths.fi/suomi/terveystietoa/keppijumppa.htm Thanks for the link, Christine. I do some stretching exercises daily, but this has been going on for over three years already, and the doc said it should pass in 18 months. I've had physical therapy (fortunately, the university pays for ten sessions a year - well they should, since my shoulders hurt from working there ;o) ). Maybe I'll try those gymnastics. > And it sure was spooky with the lady addressing you on the street about > your hair like that... Especially since, as you probably know, people in Helsinki seldom talk to strangers. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki >>And it sure was spooky with the lady addressing you on the street about >>your hair like that... > > Especially since, as you probably know, people in Helsinki seldom talk to > strangers. Exactly!! SignatureChristine in Vantaa, Finland christal63 (at) yahoo (dot) com photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/christal63 Laku: DS B G 4.11 Y L W C+ I+++ T++/- A+ E H+ S+ V++ F Q+ P- B PA PL > Especially since, as you probably know, people in Helsinki seldom talk to > strangers. I didn't think of that. Here in Texas everybody talks to everybody, folks are very open and friendly. It's very common to engage complete strangers in conversation. SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: OT: Schoolgirl look no more? LONG, sorry: >> Especially since, as you probably know, people in Helsinki seldom talk to >> strangers. >I didn't think of that. Here in Texas everybody talks to everybody, >folks are very open and friendly. It's very common to engage complete >strangers in conversation. Not exactly unusual in the part of California I now live in. I've had some great conversations with complete strangers at bus stops, in checkout lines, etc. Reminds me, anyone in here live in the Sacramento area? That's where we're moving to. Signature"Don't mess with major appliances unless you know what you are doing (or unless your life insurance policy is up-to-date)." - John, RCFL > Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: OT: Schoolgirl look no more? LONG, sorry: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Reminds me, anyone in here live in the Sacramento area? That's where > we're moving to. My parents used to live there for 2 years. My dad was a computer programmer for the California retirement plan or something like that. Eventually they expected him to work 20 hours a week of unpaid overtime and he figured that at age 57 he should be starting to work *less* and not *more*, so he decided to retire instead and they moved back home to Victoria, BC. Good thing their house didn't sell! They liked Sacramento but said it was very hot in the summer. Good luck with your move and I hope things work out well for you there. -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Just a thought: snip very quick, regrowth very long & tedious. Definitely worth a second thought after such a timely happenstance of an intervention, and perhaps then shorten in stages? Purrs Gordon, Bandit, Pericles & Snowball (1st 2 shorthairs, 2nd 2 longhairs, none of us anxious to change) SignatureFeline family viewable at: http://community.webshots.com/user/exocat > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* > short hair, with all the colours of the rainbow. Will have to scan some > pictures one day). The last few years, I've had trouble with my shoulders > and neck, and just making a pony tail is getting very painful. So, after > thinking it over for a long time, I've decided to cut off my hair. > Yesterday I went and booked the hairdresser for after my last day at work > before the holidays. Then I spent most of the evening looking for pictures [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > hair was showing. I don't know if she was actually bald or just > short-haired.) Wow Marina. Whatever her intent or inspiration, it probably causes you to really think about it carefully anyway. So, what are you going to do?? Susan M Otis and Chester > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a huge part of who I am, especially since it turned grey then white. > <snipped> I had my hair cut off to about chin length last year. It used to be down to my shoulder blades. I think it probably looks better short (I no longer look much like Ozzy Osborne!), but unless I can be bothered to keep getting it trimmed it gets untidy very quickly, and I'm not one who's very interested in that kind of stuff. It was so much easier to just clip the whole lot back in a ponytail. I think I'll probably end up letting it grow back again, but I don't regret giving the change a try. That probably doesn't help you make your mind up at all, does it? Don't know what you use to tie your ponytail - I find a spring loaded clip or a barette a heck of a lot easier than an elastic band. That might help with the shoulder pain a bit. >I've had long hair about 15 years now. <<snip>> Funny, I just cut my long hair. It was real fine and brittle and wouldn't behave. Hair changes texture as you get older and many of us get thin on top. Now with short hair it fluffs up and hides the thinness on top. And I look better. And I don't have all that weight pulling on my neck. And it looks better with my wrinkles! The picture i saw of you didn't look like your hair was thin. That means more hair to weigh you down. But before making a decision, can you try a short wig for awhile to see if the style fits you? Have you checked into handicapped supplies? There may be something to help you tend to your hair without raising your arms so high. You can use a long-handle bath brush to help you shampoo your hair. Maybe a spaghetti lifter can be used as a de-tangler--coarse comb; and a clean bath brush as a hair brush. A lot of them have straight handles; but occasionally I have seen them with curved handles. Just a couple ideas. -- CATherine > Funny, I just cut my long hair. It was real fine and brittle and > wouldn't behave. Hair changes texture as you get older and many of us [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > occasionally I have seen them with curved handles. Just a couple > ideas. Excellent ideas! I'm still in two minds about going short. I know I looked good in short hair when I was younger, but then I was considerably slimmer, too. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki >> The picture i saw of you didn't look like your hair was thin. That >> means more hair to weigh you down. But before making a decision, can [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >good in short hair when I was younger, but then I was considerably slimmer, >too. I work with a lot of elderly and handicapped people and it is amazing what the therapists come up with to help them cope in their daily lives. So often household items can be used as helps for many different things. With your shoulder pain, cutting your hair might make the washing and combing a shorter and easier job; but only if you wear it straight. if you have to style it, it is more work than long hair. -- CATherine > With your shoulder pain, cutting your hair might make the washing and > combing a shorter and easier job; but only if you wear it straight. if > you have to style it, it is more work than long hair. I was thinking very short and straight, so you would hardly even have to comb it. Not a buzzcut, but a few centimetres (an inch or so) long. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki >Funny, I just cut my long hair. It was real fine and brittle and >wouldn't behave. Hair changes texture as you get older and many of us >get thin on top. Now with short hair it fluffs up and hides the >thinness on top. And I look better. And I don't have all that weight >pulling on my neck. And it looks better with my wrinkles! A colleague once told me that she ties her hair back to give herself a facelift. She might have been pulling my leg though. :) > A colleague once told me that she ties her hair back to give herself a > facelift. She might have been pulling my leg though. :) I did something like that in high school - I used to wear a ponytail on top of my head. Well, not at the very top, more like at the crown. But higher up than a regular ponytail. Anyway, the hair from the front of my head would be pulled directly back rather severely, and would definitely lift the skin on my forehead and around my eyes, and I'd look a bit different. I kind of liked that look, but after a day of it, I'd have quite a headache, so I stopped wearing it that way. Joyce >>I've had long hair about 15 years now. ><<snip>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >occasionally I have seen them with curved handles. Just a couple >ideas. I have been "stewing" about my hair also. I want to get away from perms if I can find a way to let it be straight. My hair is white and grows very fast. I have a frozen right shoulder, so it is harder all the time to put it up. I have always done my own hair except for cuts and perms. There are wide toothed combs available that make combing easier. If the drug store doesn't have them, try a beauty supply store. (snippety) > Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? > No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete > stranger in the street. And there was nothing strange about the woman, she > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ That is strange, Marina. I dunno - that might give me pause if I hadn't completely made up my mind already. FWIW, I have appx. chin-length hair, all one length except for bangs. My hair is just curly enough to be messy, but even so it's relatively fuss-free. I don't even particularly have to get it trimmed all that often, if I don't mind blowing my bangs out of my eyes. :-) ------ Krista > Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my hair? Maybe it's a sign from the mothership. Though I'd think they would've used Frank or Nikki to deliver the message. > No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at least not a complete > stranger in the street. And there was nothing strange about the woman, she > seemed perfectly normal and certainly sane. This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ Well, your hair *is* fabulous as it is. SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com I really can't imagine you having short hair, Marina. Maybe you can settle for medium length. Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sound like much of a decision to make, but this long hair of mine has become > a huge part of who I am, especially since it turned grey then white. <snip In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "Marina" <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> artfully composed this message within <news:2jb0kjFsi8paU1@uni-berlin.de> on 16 Jun 2004: > Now, how could that woman know that I had just decided to cut my > hair? No-one has ever told me not to cut my hair before, at > least not a complete stranger in the street. And there was > nothing strange about the woman, she seemed perfectly normal and > certainly sane. This was such a strange coincidence that I'm not > at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ Or you could go to someone who doesn't seem to know how to cut hair and wind up butchering it. :-\ That's what happened to me. I don't know if this woman was distracted, drunk or on drugs, or they just keep her around because she's been there for so long they don't know how to fire her. I went in for just a trim, and ended up with about 4" cut off (one side) and because I have curly hair I didn't notice how uneven it was until I got home. I had to go back the next day for a "repair" and it is still so butchered I can't stand it. Above my shoulders short and I go on vacation to the beach in a month. It won't grow out by then. ggggggrrr SignatureCheryl It's a personal decision. Sure, long hair is beautiful and somehow cutting off very long hair is kinda sad because of how long it takes to grow it. But if having it long is uncomfortable for you, or you're just sick of it, or want a change or whatever reason, it is totally up to you and you shouldn't let a stranger's comment influence you. I had long hair all my life. My mom's hair is down to her butt. My dad hates short hair on women and insists for my mom's hair to be long. After being in Thailand for 2 years, I just got so sick of my long hair, it was hot and I never wore it down anyway. So I cut it off, going really short. I didn't tell my parents for the longest time. But you know what? It looks good on me and when I eventually sent an email, I even got compliments from my dad, which I certainly wasn't expecting. Last year when my mom came to visit me, she said that I should have cut it off long ago. I don't ever plan on growing it long again. It's so easy to take care of, I feel light and free and I can do so many different looks just by putting in various styling products. I think you should do what makes you happy and if you do cut it off you have some options on what to do with the hair. You could donate it to a charity that makes wigs for cancer patients, which would be a very nice thing to do. Or you could just save it to look at ;-) -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > I've had long hair about 15 years now. I stopped cutting it in the mid-80s > and after a few years, it was as long as it is now (before that I had *very* [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi > Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki How do you cut your hair longer? > This was such a strange > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ SignatureNo matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up. When Clinton lied, no one died. > How do you cut your hair longer? > > > This was such a strange > > coincidence that I'm not at all sure about cutting my hair any longer. :o/ Cheeky, cheeky. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki |
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