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CATherine - 15 Jun 2004 04:19 GMT
Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
him. Then Jeff set Robin down on the floor.

He immediately started trying to back away from it. It came with him.
He turned sideways and then backed up some more. The darned thing
turned and backed up with him!

He backed all the way under and around my chair and into a corner. He
reared up over the trashcan. So I helped him out of the hole he was
in. He laid down for awhile to think things out. then he took two
steps forward and quickly stepped backward again. It came with him.
Darn! He can't fool the thing!

Well, he decided to go to the bedroom; backwards, of course. When he
got to the table in front of the window, he reared up on the chair
with his front feet and then the back feet came up while he was in a
sideways position. Somehow, he made it onto the table, where he sat
looking outside with his head, and collar, against the screen.

Then he discovered something. When he pressed the edge of the thing
against something, it pushed it farther down his neck. So, he spent
the next hour walking up to various things and pushing the collar
down. But no matter how hard he pushed, it wouldn't go past his
shoulders.

So he laid down with his head stretched out on the floor. Pretty soon
i brought a bowl of food to him. I had to help him learn to get the
bottom of the collar under the edge of the dish while he pushed the
top of it against the wall so he could eat. I had to get another bowl
that would work with the collar for his water. So far he hasn't drank
any.

He sits or lays quietly. I think he is depressed. Poor baby. I will
have to give him lots of scritches. But it is just until his "ouchie"
heals.

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CATherine
O J - 15 Jun 2004 05:00 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
>He sits or lays quietly. I think he is depressed. Poor baby. I will
>have to give him lots of scritches. But it is just until his "ouchie"
>heals.
>CATherine

    Oooohhh!  What a mean old kitty meowmie!

Scowls and growls,
O J

    Seriously, sending purrs that the little guy heals soon and that
he doesn't drive you to distraction in the meantime.  O J
SUQKRT - 15 Jun 2004 23:19 GMT
>>He sits or lays quietly. I think he is depressed. Poor baby. I will
>>have to give him lots of scritches. But it is just until his "ouchie"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Scowls and growls,
>O J

Poor kitty, I hope he heals soon.
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CATherine - 16 Jun 2004 03:35 GMT
>---------------------<snip>----------------------
>>He sits or lays quietly. I think he is depressed. Poor baby. I will
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>     Seriously, sending purrs that the little guy heals soon and that
>he doesn't drive you to distraction in the meantime.  O J

It is called tough love, I think. At any rate, it is for his own good.
He is behaving very quietly now. He no longer backs up. But he walks
funny; his head hangs low and swings from side to side and his
shoulders also swing. reminds me of a drunken sailor! I think what he
is trying to do is get the weight of the collar off his ears. they are
sensitive and I noticed this morning he had them curled forward like a
Scottish Fold! I am sure he is grateful for the purrs. I know I am.

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CATherine
Debbie Wilson - 15 Jun 2004 09:20 GMT
> So he laid down with his head stretched out on the floor. Pretty soon
> i brought a bowl of food to him. I had to help him learn to get the
> bottom of the collar under the edge of the dish while he pushed the
> top of it against the wall so he could eat. I had to get another bowl
> that would work with the collar for his water. So far he hasn't drank
> any.

Poor Robin. He will get used to it in a day or so, though. You may find
that raising the bowls up will help him get the collar over them easily
so he can eat and drink. With my foster cats who had these collars, I
would place the bowls on a pile of small books, or something similarly
sturdy (eg bricks, an earthenware cat/dog bowl etc) so they were raised
up by about 3 inches. This made it a lot easier for them to eat.

HTH

Deb.
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CATherine - 16 Jun 2004 03:40 GMT
>> So he laid down with his head stretched out on the floor. Pretty soon
>> i brought a bowl of food to him. I had to help him learn to get the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Deb.

He is now using Amber's bowl. It is a deeper crockery bowl and it sits
inside his own shallow bowl. It raises it enough and with an inward
slope to fit the bottom of the collar as his mouth goes into the bowl.
I keep the level of food high. He is a smart cat and learned very
quickly how to maneuver the collar for food and water. The bowl is
sitting on the washer against the wall. He likes it that way so he can
push the collar against the wall so it will go farther down his neck,
giving him more room and easing the weight of it on his ears; although
it is lightweight clear vinyl.

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CATherine
Victor Martinez - 15 Jun 2004 13:31 GMT
Awww... poor baby! Hope he feels better soon.

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lrulan - 15 Jun 2004 14:06 GMT
aw, poor baby. We will purr and pray that his 'ouchi' heals quickly so he
can get rid of that pesky collar. Give him extra love from us.
Jazz & his mama

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> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 16 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
>aw, poor baby. We will purr and pray that his 'ouchi' heals quickly so he
>can get rid of that pesky collar. Give him extra love from us.
>Jazz & his mama

Thanks for the purrs and healing vibesfrom all Robin's friends:
Victor, Suz, Theresa, Marina, Melissa, and Susan. I just held robin in
my arms and petted him and murmured lots of lovely things to him. He
relaxed and purred.

But I have decided the problem with his ouchie is partly my fault. I
have been putting triple antibiotic on it. he always fights when i do.
I just figured it was sore. but tonight I used a cotton ball to wipe
it and he didn't budge. So it is not sore. It is also not red. I also
haven't yet put the medicine on and won't. It was always red until
now. Maybe he is allergic to the medicine and that is why he has been
scratching his ouchie. Now I feel really bad, putting him through
this. But now if I decide the spot needs moisturizing I will use
vaseline. But the collar stays on until it is healed. Hopefully, only
a few more days.

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CATherine
Karen Chuplis - 16 Jun 2004 04:05 GMT
>> aw, poor baby. We will purr and pray that his 'ouchi' heals quickly so he
>> can get rid of that pesky collar. Give him extra love from us.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Awww. Don't feel bad. You are just trying to be the best meowmie possible. I
hope that is the problem and he won't have to endure the collar now. Puurss.

Karen
polonca12000 - 16 Jun 2004 12:51 GMT
You couldn't have known that beforehand.
Hugs to you for being such a caring meowmie and purrs for Robin's ouchie to
go away completely,
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<snip> but tonight I used a cotton ball to wipe
> it and he didn't budge. So it is not sore. It is also not red. I also
> haven't yet put the medicine on and won't. It was always red until
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 17 Jun 2004 02:57 GMT
>You couldn't have known that beforehand.
>Hugs to you for being such a caring meowmie and purrs for Robin's ouchie to
>go away completely,

Thanks, Polonca. It is getting better.

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CATherine
Kreisleriana - 15 Jun 2004 14:11 GMT
>Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
>today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
>him. Then Jeff set Robin down on the floor.

(snip)
Poor little fella.  He won't leave his ouchie alone-- you put the
collar on him, and he won't leave the collar alone.

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Marina - 15 Jun 2004 14:46 GMT
> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar.

Poor Robin. Purrs that he gets used to his new fashion accessory soon, and
that the ouchie heals quickly so he can get rid of it.

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Melissa Houle - 15 Jun 2004 17:58 GMT
> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> SNIP

I hope Robin's ouchie heals soon, so he can be rid of his frustration
and depression(And the collar.) It may be unkind of me, but I admit, I
had to laugh at your description of him backing up everywhere to get
rid of the Elizabethan collar. <G> It was priceless cat logic!

Melissa
CATherine - 16 Jun 2004 04:01 GMT
>> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
>> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Melissa

I wish we could have gotten a video of him backing up. But i don't
think he would have appreciated it. He certainly didn't like us
laughing at him. He is getting more used to the collar, though he does
not like it. I pet him a lot more than usual.

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CATherine
Steve Touchstone - 16 Jun 2004 04:16 GMT
>> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
>> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>had to laugh at your description of him backing up everywhere to get
>rid of the Elizabethan collar. <G> It was priceless cat logic!

And so accurate. Sammy and Little Bit wanted to mess with their
incisions after spaying, so both ended up with collars - though not at
the same time. LB went first, and TED told me a collar probaby
wouldn't be needed, but to come back and get one if she started
pulling at the stiches. About an hour after I got her home I was back
getting the dreaded collar. When it was Sammy's turn I was smart
enough to get the collar while I was there, and sure enough ended up
putting it on her. Luckily, neither had to wear it for long. I'd watch
them while I was home, and both stopped trying to mess with the
incision after a couple days.
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polonca12000 - 15 Jun 2004 22:15 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes,
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> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
> him. Then Jeff set Robin down on the floor.
<snip
Susan M - 15 Jun 2004 23:53 GMT
Oh, forgive me Robin, but I laughed and laughed.  It reminded me of when
Otis has had collars.  Sorry sorry.  I am such a bad slave.

Susan M
Still chuckling

> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 16 Jun 2004 04:08 GMT
>Oh, forgive me Robin, but I laughed and laughed.  It reminded me of when
>Otis has had collars.  Sorry sorry.  I am such a bad slave.
>
>Susan M
>Still chuckling

Yep, a cat's logic is funny to us hoomins. But it took me a bit to
figure out why he was bumping the collar up against things. Smart cat.
Again, it was an action i wouldn't have thought of as a hoomin. Makes
me wonder if all cats are laughing at us for doing things in a hoomin
way instead of the superior feline way1

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CATherine
Kreisleriana - 16 Jun 2004 14:18 GMT
>>Oh, forgive me Robin, but I laughed and laughed.  It reminded me of when
>>Otis has had collars.  Sorry sorry.  I am such a bad slave.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>me wonder if all cats are laughing at us for doing things in a hoomin
>way instead of the superior feline way1

Especially getting down into that evil filled bathtub. ;)

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LOL - 16 Jun 2004 08:33 GMT
> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> He turned sideways and then backed up some more. The darned thing
> turned and backed up with him!

(snipped for length)

Awww, poor little darling.  Please give him an extra scritch for me -
we will be sending healing purrs his way.

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Krista
Adrian - 17 Jun 2004 12:03 GMT
> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
> him. Then Jeff set Robin down on the floor.
<SNIP>
> He sits or lays quietly. I think he is depressed. Poor baby. I will
> have to give him lots of scritches. But it is just until his "ouchie"
> heals.

I hope Robin's ouchie heals soon, continuing purrs.
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CATherine - 18 Jun 2004 04:02 GMT
>> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal. So,
>> today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to snap it on
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>I hope Robin's ouchie heals soon, continuing purrs.

It is almost healed now. Just one tiny spot with a scab. I think one
more day. then i will take off the collar and give him a treat and
lots of petting.

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CATherine
Cheryl - 18 Jun 2004 02:53 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", CATherine
<pepsicola5cents@drop.me.bigsandytelco.com> artfully composed this
message within <news:jgpsc0tbf7j97nn0sinivmrsbfrhvehg6i@4ax.com>
on 14 Jun 2004:

> Well, Robin wouldn't leave his "ouchie" alone so it could heal.
> So, today I got him an Elizabethan Collar. It took two of us to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> then he took two steps forward and quickly stepped backward
> again. It came with him. Darn! He can't fool the thing!

[...]

Poor Robin. I hope he heals soon and I understand about the e-
collar. When Shamrock was really bad (allergies, tore his fur out
and makes himself bleed) I tried using a collar on him when I had
to treat the ouchies on his back. He hated it, hated me, hated
walking, hated having to just give up and lay his head down as far
as he could with it pointing almost skyward forcing him to look up
to get comfortable. He did the backing up thing, bumped it into the
floor, furniture, me, and just cried. I felt so bad. Purrs Robin
heals soon.

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CATherine - 18 Jun 2004 13:45 GMT
>In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", CATherine
><pepsicola5cents@drop.me.bigsandytelco.com> artfully composed this
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>floor, furniture, me, and just cried. I felt so bad. Purrs Robin
>heals soon.

Oh, poor Shamrock!! Itching allergies are terrible. I would rather be
in pain than have an itch i couldn't scratch. My dog, Shasta, suffers
from allergies in late summer/fall and really suffers from the
itching. I hope Shamrocks allergies are under control and cause no
more itching. I give Benadryl to my dog but I don't know if you can
give anything to a cat like that. Purrs.

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CATherine
O J - 18 Jun 2004 14:51 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
> I give Benadryl to my dog but I don't know if you can
>give anything to a cat like that. Purrs.

     My beard snuggling girl, Lady Jane Grey, gets horrible itchy
rashes as will happen when perhaps once a year or so a flea manages to
get on her.  We would take her to the vet who would give her a
cortisone shot.  If I recall correctly, he said that cortisone is
especially well tolerated by cats.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Jun 2004 20:47 GMT
O J <ojtb@pacbell.net> had some very interesting things to say about
Re: Just call me Lizzie:

>      My beard snuggling girl, Lady Jane Grey, gets horrible itchy
>rashes as will happen when perhaps once a year or so a flea manages to
>get on her.  We would take her to the vet who would give her a
>cortisone shot.  If I recall correctly, he said that cortisone is
>especially well tolerated by cats.

Felix's TED has given steroid injections for flea allergy problems,
and assures us that cats metabolize steroids much faster than humans
do, so usage is a lot safer in cats than in humans. I *think* it's
cortisone Felix gets dosed with [it's that or something similar, the
Vicodin is fogging up the inside of my skull]. Whichever one it is, it
works wonders.

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CATherine - 19 Jun 2004 04:54 GMT
>---------------------<snip>----------------------
>> I give Benadryl to my dog but I don't know if you can
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Regards and Purrs,
>O J

That is a good thing to know. Not that we get fleas here; but the use
of cortisone for other problems.

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CATherine
Cheryl - 19 Jun 2004 01:16 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", CATherine
<pepsicola5cents@drop.me.bigsandytelco.com> artfully composed this
message within <news:tmo5d0dglshg6mqg73rjfqvhd8agm725vd@4ax.com>
on 18 Jun 2004:

> Oh, poor Shamrock!! Itching allergies are terrible. I would
> rather be in pain than have an itch i couldn't scratch. My dog,
> Shasta, suffers from allergies in late summer/fall and really
> suffers from the itching. I hope Shamrocks allergies are under
> control and cause no more itching. I give Benadryl to my dog but
> I don't know if you can give anything to a cat like that. Purrs.

Shamrock has to go to TED and get a steroid shot every few months.
It's the only thing that stops the itching since we haven't found the
allergy trigger. It could be idiopathic, but I suspect there is
something I haven't found yet. The steroid clears him up pretty
quickly but I don't bring him in at the first sign of a lesion or
he'd be there every month and that many Depo Medrol shots can't be
that good for him. At least he is comforted by them. I can't imagine
what he goes through. :(

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