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Feline Specialist? (long again - sorry)

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LOL - 15 Jun 2004 07:15 GMT
Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
arrived TED himself was there instead, and we were able to talk
uninterrupted for a bit while the IV bag emptied itself into Mikey.  I
am not entirely sure what's going on with Mike's kidney function -
what TED said Sunday was not really the same thing as what he'd told
me on the telephone Thursday night, and was far more pessimistic.  (I
was too upset about it to post an update, frankly.) He did say,
though, that he thought we should consult an internal medicine
specialist.

I'd previously tracked down a feline specialist on St. Simons Island,
GA, which is appx. 60 miles from here.  No sane person would have gone
to the islands in the past few weeks, but now that the G-8 Summit is
finally over, DH and I went today and talked to her.  I certainly want
to give her a try - this is by far the closest feline specialist, and
we liked her.  She had four gorgeous office cats - 2 black girls, an
orange tabby boy and an enormous tuxedo boy.  She said that if our vet
is willing to work with her, she'd be happy to do so, and may be able
to suggest some things we can do right now that will help.  She says
she sees probably about one hyperthyroid cat per day, whereas Mike is
only the second hyper-t cat our vet has *ever* seen.  And the other is
having no complications at all - she's doing beautifully on the
tapazole, and has gained weight and is marvelously healthy.  (I try
very hard not to have mean and petty feelings about this other cat.)

The only thing that gave me pause is that she mentioned (just
mentioned in passing, didn't recommend this for Mike or anything like
that) the possibility of surgery to remove the thyroid.  I've done an
awful lot of reading about the hyper-t, and I understand that this
surgery isn't recommended any more.  Perhaps there are circumstances
that make it more feasible and I just don't know about them - anyway,
we are quite capable of saying no to any proposed treatment, it's just
that this didn't sit quite right with me.

I like our vet very very much - he's great with Mike, and he is very
knowledgeable and does a lot of research.  The fact remains, though,
that knowledge and experience are not the same thing, and entirely
aside from that I want a second opinion.  Mike has another appointment
with TED tomorrow (he has to go to the vet on his birthday, poor
baby!) and we are going to talk to TED about this and ask him to fax
the records.  I'll be holding my breath until she's at least looked at
his records - I am hoping with all my heart that she won't see the
situation as quite as grim as our regular vet does.

I know a lot of you take your furbabies to feline specialist vets - do
you find that it makes a big difference?

And please, if there's anyone lurking out there who knows anything
about good kitty docs in south Georgia, please, please let me know!

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Krista
Victor Martinez - 15 Jun 2004 13:36 GMT
> And please, if there's anyone lurking out there who knows anything
> about good kitty docs in south Georgia, please, please let me know!

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LOL - 16 Jun 2004 06:39 GMT
> > And please, if there's anyone lurking out there who knows anything
> > about good kitty docs in south Georgia, please, please let me know!
>
> You can search here: http://www.aafponline.org/find.php

Thanks, Victor.  That's how I found the vet we talked to yesterday;
however, we talked to our regular TED about it today, and he is
referring us to someone else, who specializes in internal medicine.
We are going to take Mike to see the internist as soon as we can get
an appointment, and we'll see what happens after that.

All I'm looking for, really, is a vet who can produce several thousand
sworn affidavits that she is a miracle worker, plus at least one short
video of her walking on water.   ;-)

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Krista
Marina - 16 Jun 2004 06:47 GMT
"LOL" <arbitrarilyyours@hotmail.com> wrote

> All I'm looking for, really, is a vet who can produce several thousand
> sworn affidavits that she is a miracle worker, plus at least one short
> video of her walking on water.   ;-)

LOL, Krista, aren't we all? Purrs for the vet hunt to be successful.

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Susan M - 15 Jun 2004 14:48 GMT
Hi Krista:

I've been worried about Mike and had been thinking of posting today about
the possibility of you seeing a more specialized vet.  It seems like maybe
your nice TED hasn't really hit the nail on the head for Mikey??  I'm glad
that you've got in touch with this other woman and I'll be eagerly checking
for updates for what she has said.  I'm not clear from your post whether you
took Mike to see her the first time or not?  Doesn't sound like you did.
Losing weight like he has doesn't sound right to me and I hope that you're
able to get him in ASAP.

I see a small animal specialist for my boys and you've got to imagine that
it helps, considering that he's had 25 years experience with nothing but
cats and dogs.  He's totally plugged into traditional medicine and goes to
updates constantly but often insists on consulting the holistic guy in the
city when he's not sure that what he's doing has helped.  I convinced its
why we still have Otis - my TED's unrelenting search to find something for a
kitty that had stress induced interstitial cystitis.

Another thing I remember was that, during the worst of all of Otis'
undefined health problems, I thought it would never ever get better.  Now,
these problems seem like a dream, they're so far away.  Don't give up hope,
as I know you won't - you've given a lot to help your kitty.

Susan M
Thinking of you and Mikey

> Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
> the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
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> Krista
LOL - 16 Jun 2004 06:58 GMT
> Hi Krista:
>
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> Susan M
> Thinking of you and Mikey

Thank you, Susan.  We didn't take Mike yesterday to see the specialist
- we didn't know anything about her and it's an hour or more to get
there; we just wanted to check it out.  As it happens, when we talked
to our regular vet at Mike's appointment this afternoon, he said he
wants to refer us to an internal medicine specialist, so we're going
to start there.  We are hoping to hear tomorrow about when we can get
an appointment.

I am frustrated because it seems to me (and DH too) that it's hard to
tell from what TED says just how serious the situation is with Mikey's
kidneys.  A fair amount of what he's said seems inconsistent.  I don't
think he's doing it on purpose, but have to wonder if he just doesn't
know.

I just typed, and then deleted, a long and complicated explanation of
my frustrations here, so maybe I should just say I have high hopes for
this referral.

Please give your boys some scritches for me, plus a smooch for Otis,
who reminds me soooo much of my Mike.

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Krista

PS:  By the time we left TED's today, the tech and I were both
bleeding.  That's my boy!
CajunPrincess - 15 Jun 2004 17:55 GMT
> Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
> the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
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> Krista

Good luck with Mike.  I think you're doing the right thing to go to a
specialist given your regular vet's inexperience with CRF.  I think
it's also great that the specialist is willing to work with your
regular vet-there's probably lots of things that they could coordinate
on that would save you the long trip to the specialist and as you say
you really like your regular vet.  He sounds like he's a very honest
and straighforward person.

My impression from researching CRF on the web when Prissy was being
treated was that removal of the thyroid is still considered an option
but it isn't utilized very often anymore.  Maybe there are infrequent
situations where something about the cat's condition makes surgery
more of an attractive option. I'm guessing the specialist was just
trying to lay out all the possible treatments since you say she just
mentioned it in passing.

I took Prissy to the same vet I use now, who specializes in older
cats, which means they saw CRF cats all the time. Since they made the
diagnosis of CRF, I can't make comparisons but I can say that knowing
that they had lots of experience in treating it gave me a sense of
confidence in their advice.
LOL - 16 Jun 2004 07:11 GMT
> Good luck with Mike.  I think you're doing the right thing to go to a
> specialist given your regular vet's inexperience with CRF.  I think
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> that they had lots of experience in treating it gave me a sense of
> confidence in their advice.

Thank you - your posts are always informative!  I remember your
posting some very good information when I was talking about Mike's
hyperthyroidism.

We talked to our vet today about taking Mike to see the feline
specialist, but he said that he had someone else in mind that he
wanted us to see - an internal medicine specialist.  We're waiting to
hear about an appointment.  I do have high hopes about getting
effective treatment from a specialist.

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Krista
Suzanne Thompson - 15 Jun 2004 17:56 GMT
Delurking to say that my 12-year-old hyperthyroid Japanese Bobtail was
treated with radioactive iodine (I-131) last September and appears to be
completely cured.  Here's a site containing some info:
http://www.radiocat.com/.

I'm in Boston, so Peter's regular vet referred him to Angell Memorial for
the treatment, but he sees his regular vet for all follow-up visits.

Peter and I highly recommend the treatment if it's available in your area
and if your cat meets all the criteria.

Suzanne

> Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
> the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
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> Krista
m. L. Briggs - 15 Jun 2004 19:48 GMT
>Delurking to say that my 12-year-old hyperthyroid Japanese Bobtail was
>treated with radioactive iodine (I-131) last September and appears to be
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>> Krista

That is great news -- I wish I had that option about 8 years ago.  I
habe bookedmark for future reference.   MLB
LOL - 16 Jun 2004 07:44 GMT
> Delurking to say that my 12-year-old hyperthyroid Japanese Bobtail was
> treated with radioactive iodine (I-131) last September and appears to be
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>
> Suzanne

Thank you for this - I'm glad you delurked.  Please stick around!

We may very well end up having the radioiodine treatment, if Mike will
be able to tolerate it.  We'd wanted to start with Tapazole because we
thought it might be easier on Mike, since the only facilities for the
radioiodine treatment are far away.  It is looking more and more like
we'll need an alternative, though, and I do hope he'll be able to have
this.

I'm glad Peter is doing well, and I'd love to hear more about him!

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Krista
Norm - 16 Jun 2004 11:09 GMT
> We may very well end up having the radioiodine treatment, if Mike will
> be able to tolerate it.  We'd wanted to start with Tapazole because we
> thought it might be easier on Mike, since the only facilities for the
> radioiodine treatment are far away.  It is looking more and more like
> we'll need an alternative, though, and I do hope he'll be able to have
> this.

Geriatric Beastie, at 18, had been on Tapizol for 'most 3yrs now, now
off it and doing ok considering his infirmities.

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m. L. Briggs - 15 Jun 2004 17:57 GMT
>Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
>the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
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>Krista
When my Siamese was diagnosed as hyperthyroid, the Vet said usually it
is from a tumor on the thyroid gland.  If the tumor was on one side,
surgery "might" be helpful, but if it went all the way around it would
not be advisable.  I asked what her chances of surviving surgery were
at her age (16).  He said 50/50 if on one side -- 0  if all the way
around.  We tried the medication, but it made her violently ill.  It
was very hard, but I decided to let nature take its course wth no
meds.  If your cat can handle the meds, that would seem to be the way
to go.  

What I don't understand is why so many cats become hyperthyroid.  Yet
they say cats never become hypothyroid.  Anybody know why?  

Best wishes for success in treating your friend.    MLB
LOL - 16 Jun 2004 07:05 GMT
> When my Siamese was diagnosed as hyperthyroid, the Vet said usually it
> is from a tumor on the thyroid gland.  If the tumor was on one side,
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>
> Best wishes for success in treating your friend.    MLB

Thank you.  I am very hopeful that we can find something to work for
our little darling.  He *seems* to be tolerating the medication well,
and once we finally finished tweaking the dosage, it got his thyroid
levels down to normal; however, our vet thinks that the medication
itself is the cause of Mike's current kidney problems.  We may very
well end up having to consider the surgery, or radioiodine treatment
if he can handle it.

I had read that about a tumor being the usual cause of
hyperthyroidism, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't sometimes affect
them the other way, and lead to hypothyroid.  Kitties is weird
critters.

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Krista
CajunPrincess - 16 Jun 2004 19:26 GMT
> Thank you.  I am very hopeful that we can find something to work for
> our little darling.  He *seems* to be tolerating the medication well,
> and once we finally finished tweaking the dosage, it got his thyroid
> levels down to normal; however, our vet thinks that the medication
> itself is the cause of Mike's current kidney problems.

Of course it's widely known that Tapazole masks preexisting kidney
problems, but I don't recall reading or being told of Tapazole
independently causing kidney problems.  I hope that's not the case
with Mike because it would give you less flexibility.

We may very
> well end up having to consider the surgery, or radioiodine treatment
> if he can handle it.

I think I posted this before when you found out about Mike, but in the
event I didn't, I have had several people, including a vet tech, relay
their happiness with results of the radioiodine treatment. Of course,
it's a big one-time expense and a fair amount of trouble for a few
weeks.  As I recall, they have to get a good feel for the degree of
impairment of kidney function before doing it so that the cat doesn't
encounter catastrophic kidney failure after the thyroid problem is
dealt with.

I wish the best for Mike; it's hard when you are facing this kind of
roller coaster but it sounds like he has a good chance to have lots of
quality time ahead of him after this is taken care of.

> I had read that about a tumor being the usual cause of
> hyperthyroidism, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't sometimes affect
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> Krista
Kajikit - 19 Jun 2004 07:13 GMT
m. L. Briggs had something important to tell us on Tue, 15 Jun 2004
10:57:54 -0600:

>What I don't understand is why so many cats become hyperthyroid.  Yet
>they say cats never become hypothyroid.  Anybody know why?  

If they did, I think they'd have more of an idea about why so many
humans become hypOthyroid and what to do about it...

I hope the specialist vet can help your baby out...
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jun 2004 10:45 GMT
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Hey, there you are! I was just talking about you!! :)

I was asking whatever happened to the fluffy long-haired cat that
you used to see on walks, the one who desperately needed to be
brushed, whose humans were doing a p*ss-poor job of it?

Actually, I asked that question of Krista (LOL), because I got her
name mixed up with yours. That whole episode with the fluffball cat
was a few years ago, so I got a little confused about it...

In any case, did you ever find out what became of that kitty?

Joyce
polonca12000 - 15 Jun 2004 22:28 GMT
Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for a good solution to be found for
Mikey's problem,
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> Sunday afternoon, DH and I were to take Mike in for sub-q fluids from
> the vet tech when she was there to feed the boarders; however, when we
> arrived TED himself was there instead, and we were able to talk
> uninterrupted for a bit while the IV bag emptied itself into Mikey.
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Steve Touchstone - 16 Jun 2004 04:16 GMT
No apology needed for the long message, since it was full of
information that hopefully some more experienced slaves can latch onto
and make a few suggestions. Like you said, it sounds like it would be
best to find a vet who has dealt with the problem more often, and
hopefully someone further down the thread can steer you towards one
closer to home.

Purrs coming that the specialist can spot something in the records
once she gets them that can help - and sending happy purrday wishes
even if Mikey is goinf to end up spending some of the times being
poked and prodded. And hugs for the worried hoomins.
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LOL - 16 Jun 2004 22:12 GMT
> No apology needed for the long message, since it was full of
> information that hopefully some more experienced slaves can latch onto
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> even if Mikey is goinf to end up spending some of the times being
> poked and prodded. And hugs for the worried hoomins.

Thanks, Steve.  We have an appointment in the morning with a
specialist our TED is sending us to.  He's even farther away (sigh)
but specializes in internal medicine, and we are hopeful he can help
our boy.

Mikey had as good a purrday as possible - only 2 needles at TED's, and
lots of tuna water on his yummy new food.   :-)

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Krista
Adrian - 17 Jun 2004 14:47 GMT
Purrs and best wishes for Mike.
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