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[OT][Geek] Transit of Venus

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Yowie - 07 Jun 2004 04:01 GMT
Just reminding the geeks out there that the transit of Venus is tomorrow
(the 8th of June)

No-one alive has seen one, because the last one happened in 1882!

Its how Australia got discovered by Captain Cook in 1770 - he was trying to
calculate the distance between teh earth and the sun by timing the 1769
transit in the Pacific and sorta stumbled across Aussieland a bit later.

Yowie
David Yehudah - 07 Jun 2004 04:19 GMT
Yeah, I remember reading about that. Seems he lost it about a week later
and it hasn't been seen since. :-)

> Just reminding the geeks out there that the transit of Venus is tomorrow
> (the 8th of June)
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>
> Yowie

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 Jun 2004 10:01 GMT
> No-one alive has seen one, because the last one happened in 1882!

Speaking of seeing one, what does it look like? Is there anything
interesting about it, other than its rarity?

Joyce
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 07 Jun 2004 11:13 GMT
>Speaking of seeing one, what does it look like? Is there anything
>interesting about it, other than its rarity?
>
>Joyce

What you see - and you should *never* but *never* look directly at the sun or
you *will* blind yourself, painfully and possibly permanently, is a small dark
circle traversing the face of the sun. For those in the UK, tomorrow morning,
it's being shown on BBC during the Breakfast programme with Adam Hart-Davis
reporting from the Greenwich Observatory.

Also see

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/myspace/nightsky/transitofvenus.shtml

Cheers, helen s

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Bridget - 07 Jun 2004 12:01 GMT
>>Speaking of seeing one, what does it look like? Is there anything
>>interesting about it, other than its rarity?
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>
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Usses here in the US can't see it, so no point in looking at the sun and
blinding yourself for no reason.  This isn't an event for this side of
the pond.  I mean to complain to those in charge about this.

Bridget
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 07 Jun 2004 12:49 GMT
>Usses here in the US can't see it, so no point in looking at the sun and
>blinding yourself for no reason.  This isn't an event for this side of
>the pond.  I mean to complain to those in charge about this.
>
>Bridget

At least you can see it on the web :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Paulette - 07 Jun 2004 20:48 GMT
www.spaceweather.com

Back to lurkhood.
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MIKE - 07 Jun 2004 22:48 GMT
That's not true Bridget.  Here in the northeast, the sunrise is 5:08 and
the transit ends at 7:25.  If the sky is clear, I plan to look (through
4 layers of exposed xray film) about 6 AM.

                 -MIKE
MIKE - 07 Jun 2004 22:51 GMT
That's not true Bridget.  Here in the northeast, the sunrise is 5:08 and
the transit ends at 7:25.  If the sky is clear, I plan to look (through
4 layers of exposed xray film) about 6 AM.

                 -MIKE
Cheryl - 07 Jun 2004 23:27 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", Bridget
<metektor@insightbb.com> artfully composed this message within
<news:qWXwc.58286$eY2.20759@attbi_s02> on 07 Jun 2004:

> Usses here in the US can't see it, so no point in looking at the
> sun and blinding yourself for no reason.  This isn't an event
> for this side of the pond.  I mean to complain to those in
> charge about this.

The news broadcast this morning said we in the east can see the event
between ~7am - 7:20am. I'm normally on my way in to work at that
hour, so I'm going to try to be at the office by 7.

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Yowie - 08 Jun 2004 01:15 GMT
> >>Speaking of seeing one, what does it look like? Is there anything
> >>interesting about it, other than its rarity?
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> blinding yourself for no reason.  This isn't an event for this side of
> the pond.  I mean to complain to those in charge about this.

This gives you the times that the more eastern & northern USA can see t
least some of it.

Sydney and hte east coast of Australia are in a similar position; we won't
get to see all of it either, as the sun will set before Venus is even half
way across. But I do intend to try and see what I can.

Yowie
Helen Wheels - 08 Jun 2004 04:13 GMT
>>> Speaking of seeing one, what does it look like? Is there anything
>>> interesting about it, other than its rarity?
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>
> Bridget

Here in Purrth most of the transit happens before sunset, but I'm
afraid it's cloudy and bucketing down with rain today so we are
unlikely to see much :(
Helen Wheels
Marina - 08 Jun 2004 04:43 GMT
> Here in Purrth most of the transit happens before sunset, but I'm
> afraid it's cloudy and bucketing down with rain today so we are
> unlikely to see much :(
> Helen Wheels

Yup, cloudy and looks like rain here in Helsinki, too, so no drop effect of
the Venus kind. :o(

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Jun 2004 05:40 GMT
> Here in Purrth most of the transit happens before sunset, but I'm
> afraid it's cloudy and bucketing down with rain today so we are
> unlikely to see much :(

But what *do* you see - if you can see it? And taking all the usual
precautions against blindness, etc. What is it that is so interesting
about it? Does Venus light up and glow? Does it do a dance? What's the
show all about? I just don't know anything about it. Never heard of it
before this week.

Joyce, astronomy-challenged
Helen Wheels - 08 Jun 2004 06:37 GMT
>  > Here in Purrth most of the transit happens before sunset, but I'm
>  > afraid it's cloudy and bucketing down with rain today so we are
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>
> Joyce, astronomy-challenged

Well I guess it's just this little black dot thingy that slowly
moves over the sun. Personally I get a kick out ot looking at
things in the sky because it reminds me just what a big and
amazing thing our universe is and how little of it we know about.
And I think stars and planets are pretty too. To each geek her own!

Australia's CSIRO are running a live webcast at
http://www.transit.csiro.au/, but right now it looks like it's
cloudy in Canberra too.
Helen Wheels
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Jun 2004 07:48 GMT
>> But what *do* you see - if you can see it? And taking all the usual
>> precautions against blindness, etc. What is it that is so interesting
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>>
>> Joyce, astronomy-challenged

> Well I guess it's just this little black dot thingy that slowly
> moves over the sun. Personally I get a kick out ot looking at
> things in the sky because it reminds me just what a big and
> amazing thing our universe is and how little of it we know about.
> And I think stars and planets are pretty too. To each geek her own!

Didn't mean to imply that folks shouldn't enjoy it. I just didn't know
what "it" was!

Thanks for illuminating (pun intended),
Joyce
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 08 Jun 2004 09:12 GMT
>But what *do* you see - if you can see it? And taking all the usual
>precautions against blindness, etc. What is it that is so interesting
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>
>Joyce, astronomy-challenged

Well, from my garden this morning, on a fantastically sunny and clear day
(Yes!), I donned the eclipse viewers and looked to the sun (has to be proper
eclipse viewers - ordinary sunglasses do *not* stop your retinas from being
fried, but eclipse viewers do). The sun has a small balck dot traversing its
face. Currently the dot is at about the 5 o'clock position. So what's so
important about this tiny black dot? Well, it puts the size of the sun & the
planets into perspective - the sun is *huge* compared to the planets - Venus &
Earth are about the same size, and it makes it sink in as to exactly how small
our planet is.

It was used to make the calculation of the Astronomical Unit - that is the
distance between the earth and the sun

See

http://www.open2.net/prog_pages/transit_of_venus/viewer/object/4672.html
http://www.open2.net/prog_pages/transit_of_venus/viewer/object/4630.html

The AU is a Very Useful Tool for measuring distances in space - of nearby
objects, as first done by Edmund Halley in 1680

Cheers, helen s
(fascinated by matter astronomical)

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Cathi - 08 Jun 2004 20:14 GMT
>>But what *do* you see - if you can see it? And taking all the usual
>>precautions against blindness, etc. What is it that is so interesting
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>Earth are about the same size, and it makes it sink in as to exactly how small
>our planet is.

Tsk.  Now I have the Pythons' "Galaxy Song" going round my head and it's
all your fault ;-p
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MIKE - 08 Jun 2004 21:44 GMT
I did see it this morning about 6:30.  I used four layers of exposed
x-ray film.  At first I couldn't see it but then I got my binoculars (7
power) and was just able to see the dot.

                 -MIKE
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 08 Jun 2004 21:47 GMT
>Tsk.  Now I have the Pythons' "Galaxy Song" going round my head and it's
>all your fault ;-p

I do like the final bit of that...

"So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth."

Cheers, helen s :-)

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Yowie - 09 Jun 2004 00:05 GMT
> >Tsk.  Now I have the Pythons' "Galaxy Song" going round my head and it's
> >all your fault ;-p
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> And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
> 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth."

Thanks. Now I"ve got it running around in my head, too. <sigh>

Yowie
 
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