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Takayuki - 05 Jun 2004 00:05 GMT Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it.
Every day I spend with Betty feels like the very first day. When she strolls into the room, I'm just stunned by how beautiful and catlike she is. When I stroke her fur, I can hardly believe how soft she is, even though it's the same fur I petted yesterday, and the day before that. When I pick her up and hold her, it always seems like it's been ages since I've given her a hug.
I just don't know if I'll ever get used to having Betty. She's not like anything else in my life. She seems miraculous, maybe even divine. Her nose is so cool and moist. Her paws are so supple and smooth. Looking into her bright, bright eyes is like gazing at stars in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a cat.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Jun 2004 01:20 GMT Wow, Tak, what a beautiful post! It's really wonderful that you are so in touch with the awe that cats inspire, on a daily basis. Maybe because you've never had one before? Which is not to say that my cats don't also inspire awe in me, too. Maybe I'm just not as good a writer as you are! :)
Joyce
> Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it.
> Every day I spend with Betty feels like the very first day. When she > strolls into the room, I'm just stunned by how beautiful and catlike > she is. When I stroke her fur, I can hardly believe how soft she is, > even though it's the same fur I petted yesterday, and the day before > that. When I pick her up and hold her, it always seems like it's been > ages since I've given her a hug.
> I just don't know if I'll ever get used to having Betty. She's not > like anything else in my life. She seems miraculous, maybe even > divine. Her nose is so cool and moist. Her paws are so supple and > smooth. Looking into her bright, bright eyes is like gazing at stars > in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a > cat.
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Takayuki - 05 Jun 2004 05:54 GMT >Wow, Tak, what a beautiful post! It's really wonderful that you are so >in touch with the awe that cats inspire, on a daily basis. Maybe because >you've never had one before? Which is not to say that my cats don't also >inspire awe in me, too. Maybe I'm just not as good a writer as you are! :) Maybe that's it - it's that I haven't had a cat before. I remember when I first got Betty, I immediately loved her, but it also felt distinctly weird having a little beastie following me around all the time. At least I'm used to that part now. Maybe that's as far as it goes as far as getting used to having a cat.
I don't think I wrote anything particularly good. I mean, the cat is catlike? Her nose is moist? Not very keen observations. :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Jun 2004 13:08 GMT > Maybe that's it - it's that I haven't had a cat before. I remember > when I first got Betty, I immediately loved her, but it also felt > distinctly weird having a little beastie following me around all the > time. At least I'm used to that part now. Maybe that's as far as it > goes as far as getting used to having a cat. Well, there are two ways to interpret the phrase "used to". One is that you have become accustomed to something, and you expect it to be there. You've adapted to it, and your life would seem weird *without* it. Sounds like you've gotten to that point with Betty. A few of the people who responded to your original post seemed to take it that way, too - I heard people saying they were accustomed to having their cats, and would find it weird or even unimaginable not to have them.
The other way to use that phrase, which is how I think you meant it, is to *take something for granted*. To stop noticing it and stop appreciating it conciously. You'd stop feeling that daily awe and amazement, that such creatures are sharing your home and your life, stop paying attention to all the fascinating and beautiful details of your cats. Not that you'd stop caring about them, or caring *for* them, just that you'd lose touch with the concious acknowledgement and appreciation of what a wonderful thing you have. And that's what I think you were saying you still had, and weren't sure you'd ever lose. I hope you don't! It's a great gift.
> I don't think I wrote anything particularly good. I mean, the cat is > catlike? Her nose is moist? Not very keen observations. :) What can I say - I liked it!
Joyce
SUQKRT - 06 Jun 2004 18:28 GMT >>Wow, Tak, what a beautiful post! It's really wonderful that you are so >>in touch with the awe that cats inspire, on a daily basis. Maybe because [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I don't think I wrote anything particularly good. I mean, the cat is >catlike? Her nose is moist? Not very keen observations. :) I was watching tv, but was bored, so watched Spicey playing with her "kitty playpen" . She's a lot more interesting. Her playpen is two plastic arches with danglies. The base is a plastic tubering with tinckleballs. The tube has pawholes for pushing the tinckleballs round and round. Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Crdamz - 05 Jun 2004 01:33 GMT It is pretty neat to have another living being(not human) that wants to spend time around you. Cat or dog, when they have a certain kind of personality, it just really makes it fun to be a pet owner. My Calico, Freddie, is the quirkiest cat I have ever had. She has a wide range of vocalizations and it seems like she meows just to talk to me. She usually sits on top of the 'fridge and can see me at the computer from her perch. Often she will meow to get my attention--and this is from two rooms away--I poke my head around the doorway to answer her and she meows to me again, then turns back to look out the window. It's as if she is just calling to me to say "what ya doin?" I answer her and she says "Oh, OK, just wonderin'" and she goes back to what she was doing. Both of my cats follow me through the house and they both lay near by when I'm watching TV or on the computer. They aren't just my cats, but I really am their human, ya know? At bedtime, Freddie will come up by the pillow for scrunches for a while, and then she sleeps ON my feet. The other cat lies across my middle. Thet are both so funny. And, I am so lucky to have them.
Karen Chuplis - 05 Jun 2004 01:33 GMT > Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a > cat. Awwwwww. *sigh*. You are toooooo sweet :)
Ted Davis - 05 Jun 2004 01:56 GMT >Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had >Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. I had Ming Toi for 17 years - even in her decline, she kept surprising me. Fluffy and Spooky have been with me for 12 years, and I long ago learned not to take them for granted. I've had Fleagor and Snowball for only a few years, and they keep changing how they live. Most of the others are more predictable, but I know I just haven't given them enough time.
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badwilson - 05 Jun 2004 03:37 GMT Hmmm, I'd say that I'm *used* to having Vino. I'm damn happy to have him, he's my bestest buddy. But I still have to stop and comment on every cute pose I find him in and scritch his cute little cheeks and rub his fuzzy belly many times every day. Even though he has been in those cute poses hundreds of times, each time is cuter than the last and I have to comment. When Dennis isn't around, I just talk to Vino himself to myself about how adorable he is. Then I send Dennis descriptive emails about the cuteness of Vino. When Dennis is home, probably 50% of our conversation revolves around some cute thing that one of us has seen Vino do. It is rather pathetic, really. But we just can't help it if we have the cutest cat in the world ;-) -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
> Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a > cat. Kreisleriana - 05 Jun 2004 04:02 GMT >Hmmm, I'd say that I'm *used* to having Vino. I'm damn happy to have him, >he's my bestest buddy. But I still have to stop and comment on every cute [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >really. But we just can't help it if we have the cutest cat in the world >;-) I am much the same about Stinky. He always amuses me, he's always doing something cute, and even when some more detached person might not think it's particularly cute-- or even somewhat undesirable-- :P
:P :P -- I still think it's cute, or funny, or both. As for whether I am used to him-- or any cats-- well, I don't even want to consider life without them. But honestly, I still consider it a wonder that there are creatures -- little animals-- dogs as well as cats-- that live with us, and accept us, and consider us their family. I still consider it a wonder that this furry little critter pretty much considers me his property to walk all over as he pleases. ;)
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Takayuki - 05 Jun 2004 05:58 GMT >Hmmm, I'd say that I'm *used* to having Vino. I'm damn happy to have him, >he's my bestest buddy. But I still have to stop and comment on every cute [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >really. But we just can't help it if we have the cutest cat in the world >;-) You're so enslaved! 50% is really a lot.
I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be equals. :)
Marina - 05 Jun 2004 06:05 GMT "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote
> I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that > when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead > of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be > equals. :) <snicker> Dream on.
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Sherry - 05 Jun 2004 06:20 GMT > Instead >> of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be >> equals. :) You owe me a new monitor. My cats just spewed all over it before they fell off the desk laughing.
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badwilson - 05 Jun 2004 14:10 GMT > >Hmmm, I'd say that I'm *used* to having Vino. I'm damn happy to have him, > >he's my bestest buddy. But I still have to stop and comment on every cute [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You're so enslaved! 50% is really a lot. Heh, what can I say. We don't have much else to talk about? LOL!
> I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that > when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead > of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be > equals. :) Equals? With a cat? Don't count on it!!! You'll always be her servant. I know I'm Vino's servant. I try not to let him boss me around too much but he always gets back at me. Today, he wanted his dinner an hour early and I just kept putting him off. So he started chewing on this really nice wicker basket I have. I pushed him off the coffee table and he hissed at me! Geez! I guess I should have expected it ;-) -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Seanette Blaylock - 05 Jun 2004 15:42 GMT "badwilson" <BW@yahoo.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Getting used to the cat:
>Equals? With a cat? Don't count on it!!! You'll always be her servant. I >know I'm Vino's servant. I try not to let him boss me around too much but >he always gets back at me. Today, he wanted his dinner an hour early and I >just kept putting him off. So he started chewing on this really nice wicker >basket I have. I pushed him off the coffee table and he hissed at me! >Geez! I guess I should have expected it ;-) I've been known to hiss back. :-)
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badwilson - 06 Jun 2004 02:41 GMT > "badwilson" <BW@yahoo.com> had some very interesting things to say > about Re: Getting used to the cat: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I've been known to hiss back. :-) Yeah, me too. I mean, what else can you do, really? Vino has actually only been hissing for the last couple of years. He never knew how to do it before, but now that we have these neighbourhood cats coming to the windows, they have taught Vino some unfortunate habits. Not that he hisses a lot, only when *very* annoyed. One time, Dennis gave him a piece of raw beef, then decided to see what would happen if he took it away. Major hissing there! -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Kreisleriana - 06 Jun 2004 04:49 GMT >> "badwilson" <BW@yahoo.com> had some very interesting things to say >> about Re: Getting used to the cat: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >piece of raw beef, then decided to see what would happen if he took it away. >Major hissing there! AFAIK, Stinky's never hissed in his goofy little life. Mimi never had either-- unitl the day I brought Stinky home. ;)
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Tanada - 05 Jun 2004 18:09 GMT > You're so enslaved! 50% is really a lot. > > I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that > when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead > of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be > equals. :) Wrongo, Tak. I don't think one ever gets into a "pal" relationship with their cat. It might happen with d*gs, but not cats. I've got seven here and I still consider it an honor when they crowd me out of the bed, sit on my monitor with their tails hanging in front of it (one cat at a time, of course), carpet shark my dinner plate, take my spot on the sofa, help me cook dinner, or any of the thousands of things they do to let me know that I'm a part of their family during the course of a day. Sort of like having kids, but without diapers.
Pam S.
Karen Chuplis - 05 Jun 2004 18:51 GMT >> You're so enslaved! 50% is really a lot. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Pam S. <nods head> kids without diapers, but with hairballs ;)
Dan M - 05 Jun 2004 23:42 GMT >> I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that >> when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > let me know that I'm a part of their family during the course of a day. > Sort of like having kids, but without diapers. I would have agreed whole-heartedly with you until Samuel Redkitten came into my life.
When I got to bed at night, Sammy *always* come up on my chest to snuggle. When I get home after being out on the road for a week or two, Sammy always comes running to check me out and make sure I'm ok. He still enjoys his playtime with his sisfurs, and loves to hunt bugs and gophers, but I *do* get the feeling that he thinks of me as his buddy. As least, I hope he does :)
Dan
Kreisleriana - 06 Jun 2004 01:11 GMT >>> I'm hoping that I'll eventually get used to Betty, too. I figure that >>> when I'm finally used to her, Betty and I will just be pals. Instead [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Dan Me too. I really don't think of myself as Stinky's slave. He's my little buddy, and even my baby. But maybe that's just what he *wants* me to think <wahahahahhahahahaha!> :P
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Dan M - 06 Jun 2004 15:53 GMT >>I would have agreed whole-heartedly with you until Samuel Redkitten came >>into my life. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > little buddy, and even my baby. But maybe that's just what he *wants* > me to think <wahahahahhahahahaha!> :P By way of comparison, Amelia *definitely* has me trained. When I come out of the bedroom and walk down the hall towards the bathroom, she will run in front of me and dart into the bathroom. She then stands staring at the towels saying "If you wrap one of those towels around your shoulders, I'd be glad to hop up there and do a shoulder ride!". Then when I keep walking past the bathroom she dashes back into the hallway and runs into the kitchen. She then stares at the door, saying "If you come outside with us, we'll all who you what excellent outdoor kitties we are".
Last night when Amelia did her backdoor number I gave in - I went out back with the kitties. The sun had just set, so the light was soft (my favorite time of day). Our usual sunset breeze had started, so the temperature was coming down from it's high of the upper 90s. The birds were still out doing their things, there were enough bugs moving around in the grass to give the kitties something to hunt - overall, it was an excellent time to be outdoors. The two kittens (I still call them kittens, but at a little over a year old they are now acting like grownup cats) were hunting bugs and stalking gophers, and the two older girls were enjoying the breeze. I stayed out there with the kitties for the better part of an hour. I can't think of a better way to relax.
Flippy - 06 Jun 2004 05:47 GMT > Instead > of having a cat-goddess/worshipful servant relationship, we can be > equals. :) Yeah, right! LOL!!
Good one, Tak. Hehehe...
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Marina - 05 Jun 2004 05:14 GMT > Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. You never do. I've lived with cats my whole life, and I still feel the way you do. It's only when you are without them for one reason or another that you realise how used you are to having them around.
I'll be taking the cats to the island on Midsummer, when I have a long weekend off work. Then I will leave them there (in my mother's care) while I come back for one more week of work before my holiday starts. This is what I do each summer. That one week without the cats is the longest week of the year. I see them out of the corner of my eyes, I hear them doing things around the house, I feel them coming up on the bed at night, but there is no one there.
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Takayuki - 05 Jun 2004 06:03 GMT >You never do. I've lived with cats my whole life, and I still feel the way >you do. It's only when you are without them for one reason or another that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >around the house, I feel them coming up on the bed at night, but there is no >one there. I'm glad that I'm not the only person that happens to. Cats are like very bright lights. They burn themselves into your brain, leaving an afterimage so that you always see them, even when they're not actually there.
Sometimes, it's like Betty is in every corner. I think I hear her walking around behind me - but she's really somewhere else, probably toying with my mind through telepathy.
I'll bet grandmeow feels the same way you do when you take back Frank and Nikki after the week is over. ;)
CATherine - 05 Jun 2004 15:57 GMT >I'm glad that I'm not the only person that happens to. Cats are like >very bright lights. They burn themselves into your brain, leaving an [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >walking around behind me - but she's really somewhere else, probably >toying with my mind through telepathy. Tak, you really do have a way with words. I feel things but can't get the words to come right. Thanks for expressing my feelings.
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badwilson - 05 Jun 2004 14:16 GMT > > Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > around the house, I feel them coming up on the bed at night, but there is no > one there. Oh, I know how you must feel! I find it's hard enough to be away from Vino when we travel. But to be at home, in our house, without Vino...that would be so hard. I am so attached to the little bugger. I can't bear to think of him dying. In fact, I try to tell myself that in 10 years or so, they will come up with a magical life extension cure for cats and Vino will live as long as me! -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Kreisleriana - 05 Jun 2004 14:31 GMT >> > Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had >> > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >be so hard. I am so attached to the little bugger. I can't bear to think >of him dying. (snip)
<gulp> er, dying?
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O J - 05 Jun 2004 12:22 GMT >Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had >Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a >cat. You are so fortunate. It must be a blessing to look at the world through your eyes.
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CATherine - 05 Jun 2004 15:46 GMT >Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had >Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a >cat. You are utterly besotted; the perfectly trained catslave! ;-)
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Adrian - 05 Jun 2004 21:39 GMT > Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a > cat. Now you know how much you missed before Betty came into your life, and no, you never get used to your cat, every day with them is wonderfull.
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Takayuki - 06 Jun 2004 19:55 GMT >Now you know how much you missed before Betty came into your life, and >no, you never get used to your cat, every day with them is wonderfull. I knew I was missing something by not having a cat, but it was the people here who pushed me to do something about it. :)
Adrian - 07 Jun 2004 11:20 GMT >> Now you know how much you missed before Betty came into your life, >> and no, you never get used to your cat, every day with them is >> wonderfull. > > I knew I was missing something by not having a cat, but it was the > people here who pushed me to do something about it. :) I think it was the mothership controlling the people here that pushed you into doing something about it. ;-)
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Tanada - 08 Jun 2004 04:20 GMT >>Now you know how much you missed before Betty came into your life, and >>no, you never get used to your cat, every day with them is wonderfull. > > I knew I was missing something by not having a cat, but it was the > people here who pushed me to do something about it. :) Now when are you getting her a buddy? Two cats are ten times the fun of one cat. Betty needs a buddy and you need more entertainment. Get another master.
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Marina - 08 Jun 2004 05:36 GMT > > I knew I was missing something by not having a cat, but it was the > > people here who pushed me to do something about it. :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Pam S. obeying the orders from her masters and sending this message I agree. If you think you were missing something by not having one cat, you don't know how much you are missing by not having two or more cats.
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Takayuki - 08 Jun 2004 07:34 GMT >Now when are you getting her a buddy? Two cats are ten times the fun of >one cat. Betty needs a buddy and you need more entertainment. Get >another master. > >Pam S. obeying the orders from her masters and sending this message I'd forgotten about the second cat thing - it definitely needs to get on my to-do list. It sounds like a risky move. If I end up with two cats that despise each other, then neither will be happy. Also, sometimes I think that Betty is lonely, but I'm not sure if I'm projecting, and if she is lonely, I'm not sure if she's lonely for another cat. It's a complex problem.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Jun 2004 07:52 GMT > It sounds like a risky move. If I end up with two > cats that despise each other, then neither will be happy. If you adopt a second cat from the shelter and explain your reservations, I'm sure they will agree to take the second cat back if you can't get the two to get along. (And be friends - since that's the point.) But sometimes it takes a little while. And there are techniques to help the process along. Also you can make some choices about the second cat that would give them better odds of getting along (although it's really a crapshoot - you can never tell!). You can ask the shelter about those things - and I'm sure folks here would have lots of suggestions, too.
> Also, sometimes I think that Betty is lonely, but I'm not sure if I'm > projecting, and if she is lonely, I'm not sure if she's lonely for > another cat. Only one way to find out! :)
Joyce
Annie Wxill - 08 Jun 2004 18:12 GMT > >Now when are you getting her a buddy? > Tak responded I'd forgotten about the second cat thing - it definitely needs to get
> on my to-do list. ... Hey, Tak, I know of six cute little kitties rescued from a barn and learning how to enjoy snuggles and tummy rubs.... Annie
Tanada - 08 Jun 2004 19:47 GMT > I'd forgotten about the second cat thing - it definitely needs to get > on my to-do list. It sounds like a risky move. If I end up with two > cats that despise each other, then neither will be happy. Also, > sometimes I think that Betty is lonely, but I'm not sure if I'm > projecting, and if she is lonely, I'm not sure if she's lonely for > another cat. It's a complex problem. Cats are very sociable with each other. It is possible that Betty and the other owner may not get along, but unlikely given Betty's personality. That is if you get a cat who is also very sociable and make sure that Betty knows that you're not replacing her.
Pam S.
Steve Touchstone - 09 Jun 2004 01:23 GMT >> I'd forgotten about the second cat thing - it definitely needs to get >> on my to-do list. It sounds like a risky move. If I end up with two [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >personality. That is if you get a cat who is also very sociable and >make sure that Betty knows that you're not replacing her. And if you get the new owner at the shelter they can probably steer you towards the more socialable cats - and hopefully let you have a trial period where you can return the new kitty if things don't work out.
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Takayuki - 09 Jun 2004 18:14 GMT >And if you get the new owner at the shelter they can probably steer >you towards the more socialable cats - and hopefully let you have a >trial period where you can return the new kitty if things don't work >out. Weeell, I'm not sure I could return a cat, even if it didn't work out. :)
Takayuki - 09 Jun 2004 18:13 GMT >Cats are very sociable with each other. It is possible that Betty and >the other owner may not get along, but unlikely given Betty's >personality. That is if you get a cat who is also very sociable and >make sure that Betty knows that you're not replacing her. Betty's personality is actually a concern. She's a polite, quiet, clingy little thing.
I'm afraid that if she were paired with another cat with a much more demonstrative personality, she might not know how to handle it, and withdraw.
Marina - 08 Jun 2004 19:54 GMT > I'd forgotten about the second cat thing - it definitely needs to get > on my to-do list. It sounds like a risky move. If I end up with two > cats that despise each other, then neither will be happy. Also, > sometimes I think that Betty is lonely, but I'm not sure if I'm > projecting, and if she is lonely, I'm not sure if she's lonely for > another cat. It's a complex problem. If it's a young enough cat or kitten I'd say it's highly unlikely that Betty will not take to it/him/her.
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Takayuki - 09 Jun 2004 18:15 GMT >If it's a young enough cat or kitten I'd say it's highly unlikely that Betty >will not take to it/him/her. What is it with you and recommending kittens? :) I think that Betty would hate having a kitten in the house!
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 09 Jun 2004 18:54 GMT >>If it's a young enough cat or kitten I'd say it's highly unlikely that Betty >>will not take to it/him/her. > >What is it with you and recommending kittens? :) I think that Betty >would hate having a kitten in the house! My first one, Figaro did when I brought Tito home. I did not know that cats could growl so loud! It was a matter of time and a slow introduction. About a week of pawplay under the door and supervised meetings I knew it was going to work out when Figaro came into the bathroom where Tito was and picked up his toys that I placed in there for Tito to use. When I put the toys in there for Tito I figured what the hell, Figaro doesn't play with them any more Tito can use them. I guess I was wrong. You would think that with all the toys that Figaro had he would not miss any of them. The next day Figaro came in and used Tito's litter box. Tito was not amused. Tito then went and used Figaro's. Since that time they have been buddies.
A year later they are still buddies, hunt together, sleep together, play, wrestle, and do other cat stuff together. It just required a little patience, understanding, and loads of affection on the older cat.
By the way, I have three now, all about a year apart.
No problems except for the occasional spat. No unnecessary vet bill due to fighting. It can be done even with an only cat.
Go for it. Hie thee to the shelter.
Marina - 09 Jun 2004 18:58 GMT > What is it with you and recommending kittens? :) I think that Betty > would hate having a kitten in the house! On the contrary, I think she would feel less threatened than by an adult cat, and she might even feel motherly towards it. :o) Like Frank did with Nikki.
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Karen Chuplis - 10 Jun 2004 01:29 GMT >> If it's a young enough cat or kitten I'd say it's highly unlikely that Betty >> will not take to it/him/her. > > What is it with you and recommending kittens? :) I think that Betty > would hate having a kitten in the house! You also thought you would not be a good cat daddy ..............
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 08 Jun 2004 14:14 GMT I was just wondering when this thread was going to go in this direction
>>>Now you know how much you missed before Betty came into your life, and >>>no, you never get used to your cat, every day with them is wonderfull. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Pam S. obeying the orders from her masters and sending this message Tanada - 08 Jun 2004 19:45 GMT > I was just wondering when this thread was going to go in this > direction you know my masters well, oh not so great one. I can't call you the great one or my masters would be really narked. There are few things worse than seven narked masters.
Pam S.
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 08 Jun 2004 21:25 GMT >> I was just wondering when this thread was going to go in this >> direction [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Pam S. I followed the whole business last year with Tak and how he was "persuaded" into being owned. I must admit he did hold out for a long time.
Tanada - 09 Jun 2004 17:57 GMT > I followed the whole business last year with Tak and how he was > "persuaded" into being owned. > I must admit he did hold out for a long time. That he did. However, he'd have saved himself a lot of nagging, and us a lot of band width if he'd been adopted by two to begin with.
Pam S.
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 09 Jun 2004 18:54 GMT >> I followed the whole business last year with Tak and how he was >> "persuaded" into being owned. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Pam S. I am working on him now!
Bridget - 09 Jun 2004 21:49 GMT >>>I followed the whole business last year with Tak and how he was >>>"persuaded" into being owned. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I am working on him now! Oh h*ll add me to the list.
Tak, I remember when you brought Betty home last year you talked about her personality and how personable she was and easy to get along with and how quickly she came out of her shell and how laid back she was. Weeeelllll, those are all things you look for in a cat to see if they would take another cat being in their space. And the general rule of thumb is that it does work better with kittens than older cats because the established cat, Betty, is the dominant cat and the kitten will be the non-dominant one and won't challenge her until way after they have become acquainted. They may not become best of friends until the kitten is closer to adulthood, but most young cats can't stand to see a kitten playing without wanting to get involved themselves. It is just too much of a temptation. And kittens will play with anything, thus drawing the cat in whether they want to or not.
And the bonus, you get to have a kitten in the house. You think having Betty around in endearing and adoring and beautiful, just wait 'til you try a kitten on for size. Kitten fever will never mean the same thing again.
My recommendation, for the record, is that you get a male kitten (usually opposite sexes work best - so it is said anyway, I've got two of the same sex (both male) and they are pretty much inseparable) that is 3-5 months old. And, please, Tak, the sooner the better. You know we aren't going to leave you alone about this until you do the bidding of our masters. Besides, this IS kitten season and if you delay too long, it will be hard to find the perfect kitten to go with Betty.
Bridget - nope, my cats know no shame
Victor Martinez - 05 Jun 2004 22:53 GMT Tak, I share your feelings completely! I know our cats very well, but I still smile when I see them adopt certain poses, or yowl asking for scritches, or sit there waiting to be fed... they truly are wonderful creatures.
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Gandalf - 09 Jun 2004 04:57 GMT >Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had >Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a >cat. Most eloquently put. My compliments.
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Susan M - 09 Jun 2004 06:13 GMT Hi Tak:
I know what you mean about the constant wonder of sharing your life with cats. Every time we see the cats we are struck by their beauty and catness. Chester radiates angel vibes and Otis radiates regal siamese hunting vibes. Just a couple of days ago I heard my husband come out of the garage when he spotted Chester. He said, "Chhhhhhhhesssssssterrrrrrrrrrrrr" in an exicted loving tone of voice, like we always do when we see him. He rewards us with back arches and wheelies and rubs and total excitement. I wondered what the neighbours made of a grown 40 something male gushing like that ...
... as for the two cats, two can be great. I've told you before that we picked out Chester by watching his reaction to the cats called "must be single cats". He just yawned when they hissed at him. Maybe you could try a similar approach to make sure that your new kitty wouldn't be bummed if Betty tried to assert herself? Just an idea. You're lucky that you can make the leap to another one - there are so many possibilities :-) Going from 2 to 3 will never happen to us. Between my son's allergies and the fact that our cats are indoor/outdoor and we can't inflict any more cats on our slightly disapproving neighbours, two lovely cats it remains. Not that I can handle more than two right now, its just that there are so many beautiful loving cats out there and so little time ...
Take care,
Susan M Otis and Chester
> Is there ever a point when you finally get used to your cat? I've had > Betty for over a year now, and I haven't gotten used to it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in a sky made of gold. I don't know if I'll ever get used to having a > cat. Takayuki - 09 Jun 2004 18:20 GMT >Hi Tak: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >back arches and wheelies and rubs and total excitement. I wondered what the >neighbours made of a grown 40 something male gushing like that ... Your cats sound so wonderful. I have considered what you've told me before about Chester. I think that the ideal companion for Betty would have a patient, mature disposition, like your Chester, Marina's Frank, Mary's Mimi, or Pam's QC.
Susan M - 10 Jun 2004 04:34 GMT > Your cats sound so wonderful. I have considered what you've told me > before about Chester. I think that the ideal companion for Betty > would have a patient, mature disposition, like your Chester, Marina's > Frank, Mary's Mimi, or Pam's QC. I have another theory as well Tak ... though I know not of what I speak. We adopted our cats as slightly older kittens so we could tell a bit more about their personalities - not on purpose but it just sort of worked out this way. Otis was 3.5 months old and Chester was 4 months old. Never having had little kittens before, I don't know if you can tell tons about their personalities or not?????? Anyway, Chester's true colours were certainly showing at 4 months. I love boy cats too. Less complicated than the females :D
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Victor Martinez - 10 Jun 2004 14:25 GMT > way. Otis was 3.5 months old and Chester was 4 months old. Never having > had little kittens before, I don't know if you can tell tons about their > personalities or not?????? Anyway, Chester's true colours were certainly Oh yes... the reason why Fez was immediately picked up from the litter was that he looked at me, got up, came towards me and gave a little meow. :) I knew he was an outgoing critter with plenty of charm. Rufous was the chubbiest of the bunch and he turned out to be a sweetheart. They were only 4 or 5 weeks old, but their personalities were already pretty defined, at least a rough cut anyway.
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hpickering@austin.rr.com - 10 Jun 2004 13:08 GMT <snip> Here is another reason to get another cat. Cold Winter nights. You will have two furry hot water bottles to keep you warm.
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