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For Adopted Cats-Ever Wonder What Their Life Was Like Before You Adopted Them?

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CajunPrincess - 27 May 2004 23:42 GMT
I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
"past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
turned into the clinic (which houses cats for adoption as well in
conjunction with a rescue group) as an 11 year old by the family that
had been bringing him there for years.  But Sabastian, who was about 3
years old when I adopted him, was a "door dump"-he was left at the
doorstep of the clinic in a carrier, something which I assume happens
at most shelters.

Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.
Nothing in his condition or behavior really gives a clue. He was
neutered but not declawed.  He doesn't seem to be particularly scared
of anything.  He's best described as being a lovebug on his own
terms-he likes being held and petted for discrete periods of time, but
after some time (and those periods seem to be getting longer) he
decides that he's had enough and wants to go do other things. He likes
to have places of his own but he also will sleep on his back with his
legs all splayed out in the middle of the floor. He definitely isn't
clingy, although he likes being around me and other people even when
he's had his quota of lovin' for the time being. He's not at all a
"talker", in fact he rarely meows. I sometimes wonder if his sparse
vocalization is a relflection of his upbringing, but it could also
just be the way he is. Whatever life was like for him at his original
home, he seems to have been physically well cared for and there aren't
any signs of mistreatment.

I know that people give away pets for all sorts of reasons and I guess
it'll always be a mystery as to why his original owners didn't want
him anymore. He's a healthy 12 lb long haired black domestic breed
(although when he wants to be held he likes to melt in your arms like
a ragdoll, he doesn't seem to have any of the other characteristics of
that breed) Not an unusual looking cat but very attractive.  He's by
far the most athletic cat I've ever been around, but he's not really
bad about jumping on things like the kitchen counter that I would
prefer he not get on. He's real fastidious and always uses the
litterbox.  He and Kona have settled down to a roomate kind of
relationship with only occasional spats, so I would tend to doubt that
there was another cat that he couldn't get along with.

At least his original owners had the decency to make reasonably sure
he'd be taken care of even if they didn't have the gumption to bring
him in to the shelter themselves. Did his original owner get married
to someone who was allergic or didn't like cats?  Run out of money to
take proper care of him and decide not to tempt fate?  Had to move
away and just didn't want to bother taking him?  I guess I'll never
know and Sabastian isn't inclined to discuss the matter. In the end I
suppose all that really matters is that we're both very happy he's
here.
Norm - 28 May 2004 00:36 GMT
> I know that people give away pets for all sorts of reasons and I guess
> it'll always be a mystery as to why his original owners didn't want
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> relationship with only occasional spats, so I would tend to doubt that
> there was another cat that he couldn't get along with.

I have wondered about that often myself, having adopted several cats
from "the pound" as well as abandoneds.  The most mysterious was the
Siamese male and female - they were so devoted to each other and people
it must've made giving them up difficult.  At the opposite end was Case,
thrown away in the woods - she had so many problems, throwing up
continuously (took a year of trying different meds to conrol it) and
conflicted attitudes towards people being the worst parts.  She's doing
pretty well now.

Max was brought in for an urinary tract problem and, when the vet told
them the cost, they said put him down.  The vet did the op then looked
for an adopter.  In Max's case he was a total twitch (in fact that was
the name I gave him) when I got him and I surmised he was formerly in a
very dynamic household, like abusive kids maybe.  He never became a
lapcat but he did become very poised and a wonderful companion.

--
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got."  <via Nat King Cole
Dan M - 30 May 2004 18:53 GMT
>> I know that people give away pets for all sorts of reasons and I guess
>> it'll always be a mystery as to why his original owners didn't want
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>> relationship with only occasional spats, so I would tend to doubt that
>> there was another cat that he couldn't get along with.

Cleopatra and Amelia were adopted from the animal shelter, so we don't
know much about their previous lives. Tabitha was adopted from a a
neighbor of my brother's who was preparing to move out of the area and
couldn't take all of the recent batch of kittens (I believe the people
did take mom cat in to be fixed once the kittens were rehomed).

Sammy is the one who had it rough. When he was about 6 or 7 weeks old he
was dumped by the side of the road. The road he was dumped beside was
the entrance to a grocery warehouse - the truck entrance. Fortunately
the little kitten saw a big hedge and settled in under the hedge for
protection, and stayed out of the way of the big rigs that rolled within
 4 feet of him all day.

He obviously wanted to be a part of a home - whenever he would here
people coming towards him, he would crawl out from under the hedge, sit
in the middle of the sidewalk, and look cute. He was also obviously very
scared of people, because as soon as anyone got within 5 feet of him
he'd dart back under the hedge to hide.  This continued for a couple
days, with several of us working at the warehouse leaving cans of kitten
food and bowls of water out for him. After about the second day I
started seeing that he was sick - runny eyes, runny nose, sneezing. I
set a trap that night after the day shift went home, and within 5
minutes I had a tiny orange prisoner.

It was actually quite amusing seeing him checking out the trap. If
you've ever looked inside a hedge you've seen that it has little
branches of varying sizes. Well, a couple minutes after I put the trap
in place and returned to my pickup to watch, I saw a cute little orange
head poking up out of the top of the hedge. The kitten had climbed up
the internal branches and poked his head out. When he didn't see any
dangers nearby, he continued his climb and emerged on top of hedge. He
then walked gingerly over the top of the hedge (a standard privet hedge)
to look over the trap. I have never ween anything quite as amusing or
cute as that little orange kitten walking the top of the hedge!

Anyhow, he decided the trap didn't look threatening so he walked in,
helped himself to the can of food inside, and didn't even notice when
the door slammed shut behind him. He didn't start to get scared until I
walked up and carried the trap away. Took him to the vet, left him there
for a couple days for intensive treatment of his various infections,
then brought him home. He had to stay in isolation for a couple weeks to
keep from spreading the remnants of his illness to the other kitties,
but he's now a fully integrated part of the family. He's now the kitty
who enjoys climbing up on my chest for a snuggle.

Dan
MaryL - 30 May 2004 20:52 GMT
> Sammy is the one who had it rough. When he was about 6 or 7 weeks old he
> was dumped by the side of the road. The road he was dumped beside was
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>
> Dan

This is a wonderful story.  Both you and Sammy are lucky to have found each
other.

MaryL
CATherine - 28 May 2004 02:22 GMT
As for Amber, I only know that he had been living out of garbage cans
until he got in the backyard of a friend of mine. She rescued him from
her dogs and brought him to me. He had a cold and was very thin and
about 10 months old.(He is 11years now) I reckon he was dumped in the
country when he got old enough to spray. He was friendly and not even
scared of my dog, who became his best friend.

Robin just showed up here one day last Sept. He had been neutered only
a short time as he still had the scab. I reckon at the time he was 9
months. He was in good condition and was very friendly and likes dogs.
So someone gave him a loving home and good care. But he still tries to
spray. Maybe the former owner thought something was still coming out
and that was why he was dumped. Or maybe he got lost. We checked
around for a week for a lost cat; but there was none.

Sheba and her siblings and mother were left in a house while the owner
went on a two week vacation. She had ordered plumbing repairs while
she was gone. One of the plumbers was a friend of mine. After several
days the cats had dumped the water and scattered the food and the
litter pan was full and poop was elsewhere in the house. The plumbers
took the cats away. When the lady got back she was irate; but the
plumbers were adamant about not giving the cats back. Sheba was about
3 months old then and is now 13 years.

Djoser belonged to an elderly man in the country. He had to struggle
for a meal and safety against a feral tom and the neighbor's dogs and
tomcat. The the neighbor's loudmouthed boyfriend got mad at Djoser
sneaking into his house to get a bite of his cat's food, who was over
at Djoser's house. So the man grabbed Djoser and took him way off into
the country and dumped him...in December. he made it back home in a
month with a few touches of frostbite and a lot of hunger. At home the
competition for food and safety was worse than ever, Soon after I took
him home with me...after a certain important stop at the vet, of
course! Djoser did not know how to play; but Amber eventually taught
him. But it took him months to realize the automatic food dispenser
was never going empty and there was no competition for food and no one
was going to fight him and no human was going to take him for a
one-way trip again. He was a year and a half when i took him home. He
is now 11.

--
CATherine
Steve Touchstone - 28 May 2004 03:14 GMT
<snip>
>At least his original owners had the decency to make reasonably sure
>he'd be taken care of even if they didn't have the gumption to bring
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>suppose all that really matters is that we're both very happy he's
>here.

Glad he found a home with you, but it still p*sses me off that his
people do that. But, like yousaid, they could have done a lot worse
than leaving him where he'd be found and given the chance to find a
home. What really burns me up is the ones who abondon their pet where
they have little or no chance. A few years ago I drove a tractor
cutting grass along the right of ways along county road, and it seems
an all too common practice to dump animals near houses in the country
(sound familiar, Sherry?)

As for my current three masters, I have no idea about Little Bit's
history. She wasn't wild when she found me, but had was awfully skinny
(and pregnant). Rocky WAS wild, a true feral who wanted nothing to do
with humans. Vet estimated he was about 6-8 years old before I was
able to catch and haul him in the first time. It took a long time for
him to get to where he is. As for Sammy, I know exactly what her
history is, I witnessed her birth when LB had her litter.
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Sherry - 28 May 2004 10:42 GMT
> A few years ago I drove a tractor
>cutting grass along the right of ways along county road, and it seems
>an all too common practice to dump animals near houses in the country
>(sound familiar, Sherry?)

Ahem. <gets on soapbox, even though she's preaching to the choir>
We've got the double-whammy. We not only live in the country, but between two
lake roads. For some reason people love to dump animals at lakes and camping
areas. I think Pam can vouch for this one, too.
We had a family reunion at thelake two years ago, and some extended
familymembers I'd never met brought 2 kittens, not hardly 3 months old, with
the intention of leaving them at the lake! I started out being all nice and
telling them they were welcome to bring them to the Humane Society. I wasn't
getting anywhere and ended up making a bit of a scene I'm afraid. DH knew at
this point I didn't have the ability to shut up and interceded. Oi. I'd
forgottena bout that.

Sherry
Tanada - 28 May 2004 21:28 GMT
> Ahem. <gets on soapbox, even though she's preaching to the choir>
> We've got the double-whammy. We not only live in the country, but between two
> lake roads. For some reason people love to dump animals at lakes and camping
> areas. I think Pam can vouch for this one, too.

We had a floating colony of around 20 cats when I was a kid, from people
dumping their cats at the farm.  The reasoning seems to be that farms
can "always" use another barn cat.  Pine Cone was a dump off at Morrow
Mountain SP., where we often camp.  They tell me that every year they
get at least one dump off of cats and/or kittens.  Pine Cone was one of
the lucky ones.  He's still terrified of cars, which makes Rob and I
think he was tossed out of one.  Poor Kid.

Pam S. wondering how he's going to keep from singing when we're
traveling as he "says" he's going along
jmcquown - 29 May 2004 15:17 GMT
>> Ahem. <gets on soapbox, even though she's preaching to the choir>
>
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> Pam S. wondering how he's going to keep from singing when we're
> traveling as he "says" he's going along

This reminds me of a guy I used to work with telling me about a trip he and
his wife took.  They were driving along I-40 through Arkansas when suddenly
someone flung something out the window from the car ahead of them.  Keep in
mind, in some spots on that highway the speed limit is 70 MPH.  It was a
kitten!  (OMG)  They had to swerve to avoid hitting the poor thing.  They
stopped and the kitten was remarkably unscathed (but I'll bet it used up one
of its lives with that particular incident).  Since his wife volunteers at
The House of Mews in Memphis, they brought the kitten back with them and she
was checked; the vet pronounced her healthy.  At the proper age she was
spayed and put up for adoption.  This guy had named her "Roadkill" which,
being a very *young* guy, he thought was funny.  I'm pretty sure the cat was
renamed.

Jill
polonca12000 - 30 May 2004 10:15 GMT
Poor kitten! I'm so glad he was saved.
Best wishes,
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Polonca & Soncek

> This reminds me of a guy I used to work with telling me about a trip he and
> his wife took.  They were driving along I-40 through Arkansas when suddenly
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>
> Jill
Kreisleriana - 28 May 2004 03:17 GMT
>I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
>"past".

(snip)

Stinky was found on the subway tracks in a subway station in upper
Manhattan.  A kind man jumped down, coaxed Stinky to him, brought him
back up, and I put him in my canvas tote bag and took him home.  Then
right to the vet for worming, etc.  Poor baby was very wormy, and had
a rhino infection.  The vet said he was about six months old, so he
was neutered as soon as the infection cleared up.  He charmed everyone
there.  When I came to get him after his operation, the tech lady
said, "Oh, him-- we all love him!!  He's the sweetest little fella."

He was sweet, trusting and friendly from the beginning.  There are
feral cats living in the subway tunnels, but they are just that,
feral.  I don't think he was born down there, or he would have run
away. He was obviously not afraid of people, although maybe he should
have been.  I'm afraid it was that trusting nature that landed him on
that subway track, the victim of some sick person.  

That was thirteen years ago.  I don't really like to think about how I
found him.. It seems very unreal to me now.  It was clear from the
very beginning  that he was a people cat, who belonged in a home with
people, that he was meant to be somebody's companion, and spoiled
little darling.  The way I found him makes no sense, but there you go.

Theresa
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MaryL - 28 May 2004 17:17 GMT
> I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
> "past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
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> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
> initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.

Yes, I do sometimes wonder what my cats' lives were like, and also if they
remember it.  From what little I do know, I *hope* (in some circumstances)
that they do not have a memory of "those days."  First, think of Duffy.  He
is blind, and I have already written about him many times -- so, it should
not come as news to this group that he is an incredible, wonderful, charming
little guy and can do almost anything that a sighted cat can do.
Nevertheless, he had previously been adopted from the same shelter where I
found him.  The woman who adopted him kept him for *2 years,* then returned
him to the shelter (a *kill* shelter where they normally keep cats for 2
weeks).  She said that he is "a wonderful cat" (which he definitely is) but
that "he found a way to get to her pet birds and had killed one" -- and,
more remarkable, that he was "training her sighted to cat to get to the
birds"!  What incredible junk!  Luckily, the shelter staff did their very
best to keep Duffy alive.  He had been there for several months when I saw
his picture on Petfinder.  He was thin, scruffy, and looked like a little
old man (but was later estimated to be between 3 and 5 years old).  I can't
believe my good luck (and his) that he was still alive, and I do sometimes
wonder about what kind of monster would do that to such an exceptionally
loving and well-behaved little guy.

Then there's Holly.  I am going to post a message about her in a couple of
days because June 1 will be her 9th birthday.  In brief, she was "created"
by a breeder who mixed an Oriental Shorthair and a Persian because she had
an idea about a specific type of cat that she wanted to develop.  Moreover,
this "new cat" had to be dusty gray, but Holly is black.  Because of that
color "defect" (in the idiot breeder's mind), Holly was going to be
destroyed.  A woman who worked in a local pet supply store convinced the
breeder to let her foster the cat and try to find a home for her -- and that
is where I came into the picture.  In this case, I know Holly would have had
good care from the foster mother, but I wonder what life was like for her
until that transition was made.

One more I will mention is Amber (RB).  Amber had been declawed on *all four
paws,* and it was really a butcher's job.  The people who had her talked
about how much they loved her, but they had a 13 month old child and were
expecting another; so they were going to be "compelled" to put Amber
outdoors (despite having no claws) if they couldn't find another home for
her.  They warned me when I went to look at her that it would probably take
a long time to get her to come out because she was so frightened of people
that she always went into hiding.  Incredibly, she ran across the room and
literally jumped into my lap as soon as I sat down!  Of course, she won me
over instantly.  I thought at first that the woman who described the
situation was trying to butter me up, but I soon found that Amber really was
frightened of everyone else (a situation that gradually changed, and she
began to love being petted by anyone in her vicinity).  It's no wonder she
was so frightened.  These people permitted their 13 month old son to pull
her around the room by the tail, so she had learned to disappear as far
under furniture as possible.  I think it's rather amazing that she never bit
him because they had already taken her only other means of defense (her
claws).  They also said she "wouldn't eat much," and she only weighed 4.5
pounds when I adopted her.  That, too, changed quickly; and she became a
gorgeous, loving cat.  Again, I think of people like that and find it
unbelievable that they would call themselves "cat lovers" -- and, back to
your question, I used to wonder if Amber could remember those days (and
hoped not).  She lived to be 16 years old (the last 3 with IBD and
progressive renal failure, but she was a little angel about accepting her
medical treatment).

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
m. L. Briggs - 28 May 2004 18:40 GMT
>> I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
>> "past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
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>
>Have I told you how much I enjoy your thoughtful posts"?  If not, I am telling you now.
MaryL - 28 May 2004 20:16 GMT
> >Have I told you how much I enjoy your thoughtful posts"?  If not, I am telling you now.

Thank you very much.  You have just *made my day.*

MaryL
Sherry - 28 May 2004 20:18 GMT
Oh, poor Amber. I am so glad you got her. You truly saved her from a life of
abuse. The kind that some "cat lovers" inflict on their cats, but no less than
abuse all the same.
I"m still really puzzled about Biskit. She is just so lovey-dovey she *had* to
be well socialized even as a kitten. Someone handled that cat a lot. She runs
up to me and FLOPS down, hard, to be rubbed. She's always in your lap. The only
thing she is afraid of is the outdoors. I can't help wondering if she got lost
somehow from the original owners. She has an old injury on her side that the
vet says looks just like a BB gun wound to him. It really makes me wonder. I"ve
had lots of strays, but never one that settled in and became so devoted to
their owners so fast as her.

Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 29 May 2004 02:53 GMT
> Oh, poor Amber. I am so glad you got her. You truly saved her from a life of
> abuse. The kind that some "cat lovers" inflict on their cats, but no less than
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>
> Sherry

AWwww so nice to hear she has settled.
MaryL - 29 May 2004 04:56 GMT
> I"m still really puzzled about Biskit. She is just so lovey-dovey she *had* to
> be well socialized even as a kitten. Someone handled that cat a lot. She runs
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>
> Sherry

Biskit sounds wonderful.  It is so fortunate for both of you that she came
into your life.

MaryL
polonca12000 - 28 May 2004 21:58 GMT
Poor kitties! I'm so glad they've found a loving home with you, Mary.
Best wishes,
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> Yes, I do sometimes wonder what my cats' lives were like, and also if they
> remember it.  From what little I do know, I *hope* (in some circumstances)
> that they do not have a memory of "those days."  <snip
Yowie - 29 May 2004 00:16 GMT
Shmogg was obviously a street-cat. Not quite feral (ie, wild and untamable),
but certainly street smart. I don't think he had a *bad* life out there, as
he wasn't skinny and we've never had any food issues with him. The only
"signs" that he was a street cat is that he's not all that affectionate and
isn't a lap cat, that tends to bite & scratch if he's not getting his own
way. And of course his b*st*rd c*t skills.

Fluffy, though, makes me wonder. She was purchased from a pet shop the day
she was due to be put down because no-one bought her. She was 12 weeks old
at the time. Now, figuring that they get puppies at 8 weeks old, that meant
she'd been at the pet shop, in those horrid little cages, for a month. And
when we brought her home, she was very sleepy and lethargic for two days and
then she turned into a bouncy, energetic, enthusiastic, perfectly normal
puppy. I could only conclude that the pet shop sedated her so as to keep her
quiet in that small horrid cage.

As most of you know, Fluffy is a bit "special" in that she doens't seem to
have alot of smarts, but is a very loving and affectionate dog. She does,
howver, have serious abandonment issues (why we haven't had her spayed, we
can't bear teh thougth of leaving her at the vet overnight), she's terrified
of all other dogs, including the tiny little yappy things she could take out
in one snap of her jaws (which is another reason why spaying doesn't seem
terribly important, she is so scared of other dogs its highly unlikely she'd
"stand" for a mating), and while she is very wary of all strangers, she is
uttelry terrified of strange men, particularly ones with loud deep voices,
and elementary-school aged children. All this speaks of an abusive past,
whether that be active abuse, or just the sort of crap that happens at a
bodgy pet shop where she got to spend most of the day in a boring metal cage
doped out of her mind, whilst children got to prod and poke at her. And when
she got taken out of the cage, she'd be loved and cuddled for a few
minutes - enough for Fluffy to bond with them - they'd then walk away, never
to be seen by Fluffy again. She also cowers if you raise an open palm above
her head. It breaks my heart, that does,a nd we still haven't been able to
train her out of that.

For the record, the petshop Fluffy came from got closed down. I don't know
the reasons, but I can guess...

Yowie
Marina - 29 May 2004 05:16 GMT
> For the record, the petshop Fluffy came from got closed down. I don't know
> the reasons, but I can guess...

Poor Fluffy. Frank cowers and hides when he sees a rolled-up newspaper. I
can only guess what happened to him. He came to me at age 5 months, after
being in two different families before that.

I don't know this, but I think there  must be a law in Finland prohibiting
selling cats and dogs in pet shops, because I've never seen a cat or dog for
sale. There might be posters on the wall telling about cat and dogs for
sale, but the actual animals are never in the shop. The largest animals you
see there are rabbits and birds.

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polonca12000 - 29 May 2004 12:18 GMT
So wonderful Shmogg and Fluffy found a great home with you.
Best wishes,
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> Shmogg was obviously a street-cat. Not quite feral (ie, wild and untamable),
> but certainly street smart. I don't think he had a *bad* life out there, as
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> Fluffy, though, makes me wonder. She was purchased from a pet shop the day
> she was due to be put down because no-one bought her. <snip
:-\)Liz - 30 May 2004 19:10 GMT
Out of Our Whole Motley Crew only 4 weren't hardluck cases. Tossed aside
like a used popsicle stick :-(, injured, near death,  tortured,  wild,
starved, abandoned kitties....They are our blessings, our diamonds!(though
occassionaly, our trials!) we are lucky to have them....even the ferals who
have been living in the house for almost 3 THREE years that we can still
only briefly touch(they do like playing laser tag with the others)... :-)Liz

> So wonderful Shmogg and Fluffy found a great home with you.
> Best wishes,
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> > Fluffy, though, makes me wonder. She was purchased from a pet shop the day
> > she was due to be put down because no-one bought her. <snip
Tanada - 30 May 2004 04:34 GMT
> For the record, the petshop Fluffy came from got closed down. I don't know
> the reasons, but I can guess...

Good, it should have been closed down.  We adopted Muffin RB from a pet
store in Kentucky.  He was one of two kittens in a box with a sign on
the side that read "Free kittens, will be disposed of after ---" with
that day's date.  We couldn't take in both of them, but at least we got
Muffin out of there.  He was a love sponge who could and would convince
people that he was starving to death when he weighed 28 lbs.  Faker.

Pam S.
jmcquown - 28 May 2004 18:46 GMT
> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
> initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.
> Nothing in his condition or behavior really gives a clue.

I don't know about Persia's past.  She was definitely a house-cat at some
point; she'd been spayed and front-declawed.

She showed up at my back door on January 3rd, 2001.  She was yowling to be
let inside.  I know she didn't live here before since I'd been living here
nearly 4 years and she was only around 3 years old.  I admit, I tried to
shoo her away.  She wouldn't listen to me.  Kept coming back.  As the sun
set the temps dropped into the 20 F degree area and I couldn't stand the
thought of her just sitting out there.  I opened the door.  She cautiously
entered and checked out the digs.

That night she crept up on the bed, purring loudly and rather distressedly.
She slept on the pillow over my head.

I took pictures of her, printed and hung out flyers around the neighborhood;
canvassed the area vets and shelters.  No one knew where she came from.  The
apartment manager thought perhaps someone had moved out and left her there
so she just sort of picked me to be her meowmie.

Now she sleeps curled up in the crook of my waste with her head resting on
my hip and she's soooo sweet.  Big loss, the people who left her.  I've got
a lovely loving cat who is now about 5 years old.

Jill
Jeanette - 28 May 2004 20:14 GMT
I'm almost sure that Ripley belonged to a couple of elderly brothers who
lived across the road from me. He turned up about a month after one of them
died, and a couple of months before the other one moved into a care home. I
think the one who died was the cat lover, and he got thrown out when he
died. He certainly knew the area, and was familiar with my other cats.

I've got a full history for Cav, which is great, I know that he was never
ill treated, just unwanted. He started life as an unwanted kitten, and was
given to a pet shop. He doesn't seem to be too traumatised, so I assume that
he was bought quite quickly. On his vaccination certificate, it gives his
age as 9 weeks, and his owners as the pet shop. He was called Thumper then.
He was bought by an elderly lady, who died when he was twelve to eighteen
months old. She was the one who named him McCavity Her son took her four
young cats / kittens in, although he already had four cats of his own. Late
last year, he realised that eight cats were too many, and signed his
mother's four over to Cats Protection for adoption. Cav was the last of the
four to be adopted. His fosterer is a good friend of mine :)

Jeanette
hpickerong@austin.rr.com - 28 May 2004 20:29 GMT
>> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>> initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Now she sleeps curled up in the crook of my waste with her head resting on
I just love spell checkers.          Don't you mean waist, Jill?

a : a sparsely settled or barren region : DESERT b : uncultivated
land c : a broad and empty expanse (as of water)
2 : the act or an instance of wasting : the state of being wasted
3 a : loss through breaking down of bodily tissue b : gradual loss or
decrease by use, wear, or decay
4 a : damaged, defective, or superfluous material produced by a
manufacturing process: as (1) : material rejected during a textile
manufacturing process and used usually for wiping away dirt and oil
<cotton waste> (2) : SCRAP (3) : an unwanted by-product of a
manufacturing process, chemical laboratory, or nuclear reactor <toxic
waste> <hazardous waste> <nuclear waste> b : refuse from places of
human or animal habitation: as (1) : GARBAGE, RUBBISH (2) : EXCREMENT
-- often used in plural (3) : SEWAGE c : material derived by
mechanical and chemical weathering of the land and moved down sloping
surfaces or carried by streams to the sea

Sorry, I just had to do it.

 
>my hip and she's soooo sweet.  Big loss, the people who left her.  I've got
>a lovely loving cat who is now about 5 years old.
>
>Jill
jmcquown - 29 May 2004 02:17 GMT
>>> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>>> initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>
>> Now she sleeps curled up in the crook of my waste

> I just love spell checkers.          Don't you mean waist, Jill?

Oh fer cryin out loud.  Considering 'waste' is a real word, spell checker
wouldn't have caught it.

You have to pick on one typo when I have a lovely cat who sleeps curled up
against my waist???  At least I *have* a waist.  And a lovely cat.

Jill
hpickerong@austin.rr.com - 29 May 2004 03:35 GMT
>>>> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>>>> initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
>Jill

I have one too, waist that is,..I won't tell who it belongs to.
I agree it was not a typo, just a wrong word..., Should I go on about
the use of computers, spell checkers and the written word.

I have seen pictures of Persia and she is a lovely cat.

I happen to have three handsome young "boys" of my own, one of which
has an appointment with the vet tomorrow because he is not feeling up
to par.

- Hilden

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jmcquown - 29 May 2004 03:53 GMT
>>>>> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>> Oh fer cryin out loud.  Considering 'waste' is a real word, spell
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
> I have one too, waist that is,..I won't tell who it belongs to.

(laughing)  Okay - I know mine belongs to me!  And, like Scarlett O'Hara, at
one point it was 20 inches.  Still is when I dress up for Civil War
re-enactments (with a corset, that is).

> I agree it was not a typo, just a wrong word..., Should I go on about
> the use of computers, spell checkers and the written word.

My dear Hilden - I am a published author and so sometimes, yes, we slip up
when writing things.  That's what editors are for.  So thank you.  As for
computers, I've been doing software tech support for about 15 years.

> I have seen pictures of Persia and she is a lovely cat.

Thank you.  I agree she's a total sweet cat and I'm glad she chose me to
come live with.

> I happen to have three handsome young "boys" of my own, one of which
> has an appointment with the vet tomorrow because he is not feeling up
> to par.
>
> - Hilden

Awwwww - best wishes and purrs for your boy and the trip to the vet.

Jill
hpickerong@austin.rr.com - 29 May 2004 04:21 GMT
>>>>>> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>>> Oh fer cryin out loud.  Considering 'waste' is a real word, spell
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>when writing things.  That's what editors are for.  So thank you.  As for
>computers, I've been doing software tech support for about 15 years.

Been in "the biz" since 1976. ( computers that is)
and I have seen the degradation myself.  Too much reliance on "silicon
matter" instead of " gray matter" In My Opinion

>> I have seen pictures of Persia and she is a lovely cat.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Jill
SUQKRT - 31 May 2004 01:25 GMT
>I happen to have three handsome young "boys" of my own, one of which
>has an appointment with the vet tomorrow because he is not feeling up
>to par.
>
>- Hilden

Purrs that your handsome boy is better soon.

Sometimes when my stomach acts up waste is more accurate than waist. ;o)
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hpickerong@austin.rr.com - 31 May 2004 05:57 GMT
>>I happen to have three handsome young "boys" of my own, one of which
>>has an appointment with the vet tomorrow because he is not feeling up
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>(=':'=)
>(")_(")
Tito is doing great, Just a little Heat stress.
Brought me a snake today.
Lovely.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 28 May 2004 19:54 GMT
>I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
>"past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>suppose all that really matters is that we're both very happy he's
>here.

I think your last line says it all, but I, too, wonder about mine.

Internet is the only shelter adoptee, and I know he was removed from
an abuse/neglect situation where he lived with other cats and dogs.
He was terrified of brooms, and always ducked and closed his eyes when
I tried to pet him on top of his head.  Took lots of work to get him
over his fears.

Cosmo we think was in a household where perhaps he, or someone in it,
was abused.  He gets upset and meows at raised voices, and is afraid
of loud music, as well as thunder.  He also took awhile to understand
that it was okay to get up on the furniture, so we think he wasn't
allowed to wherever he was before.

Sabra I think either got lost or was dumped when they found out he had
asthma and couldn't/wouldn't take care of the medical problem.

Trill and Merlyn I have no idea.  I think they were just owned by
idiots and dumped when they were no longer convenient and got old
enough to spray/go into heat.

Brando, the former feral, I really wonder about.  I think he was owned
by someone before, and I have a feeling his owner died, and no one
else in the family wanted to take him in, so he was dumped and became
feral.  When I look at him, I can see him as a kitten, and he had to
be the most adorable little thing back then!

Ginger-lyn
Yoj - 29 May 2004 00:19 GMT
> >I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
> >"past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn

When I got Lindy at the shelter, she was about 18 months old, and had
already been spayed.  She was in good health.  When I talk to her and
say she's precious, she rolls over on her back and curls her paws.  My
theory is that she owned an elderly woman who either died or had to go
into a rest home, and there was nobody to take her.  I also suspect that
her name was Precious.  Of course I'll never know for sure.

She was obviously loved, though.  She runs and jumps up on the table or
bed if I head that direction, meowing loudly for skritches.

Joy
Mary - 28 May 2004 20:12 GMT
>Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
>initially. I wonder what name they gave him and how he was treated.

I guess I'm lucky. I know my cats histories. All of my cats were once wanted
then unwanted. One became unwanted when he clawed the furniture and the persons
other cats. Another was unwanted when she got pregnant with kittens. Another
was unwanted because he sprayed. Here are their previous histories.
http://www.mary.cc/boots/history.htm
http://www.mary.cc/patches/history.htm
http://www.mary.cc/mimi/
Margaret Fine - 28 May 2004 21:16 GMT
> I adopted Sabastian and Kona as adults, meaning they both have a
> "past".  I know something about Kona's background was because he was
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> suppose all that really matters is that we're both very happy he's
> here.

I wonder about this a lot actually because I often think to myself how
lucky we are to have Oliver.  My husband was walking our two retrievers
when the dogs insisted on taking a right instead of their normal left
when they got to the corner.  Like they just knew they had a date with
destiny.  :-)  They were walking down a busy street when this teeny tiny
kitten popped out of the bushes and started rubbing against the dogs.
The kitten was probably 10 or 11 weeks old and weighed less than 3
pounds.  He was starving, dirty (looked like motor oil on the top of his
head) and he had what looked like peck marks on the top of his head.
From the moment we got him home he was constantly on someone.  Sitting
on my shoulder, sleeping on the dogs, purring in my husbands lap.  It
seemed like this little love bug must have been someone's kitten because
he loved both dogs and adults but we did search and no one came forward
to claim him.  He was terrified of kids and autos so I don't know if
some kids mistreated him or if the motor oil and scabs on his head came
from a close encounter with a car...He had one or two fleas but he
didn't have worms.  There were two other kittens in the area that were
known to be from a abandoned mother cat but those kittens stuck together
so I don't know if they were Oliver's siblings.

What I think about the most, tho, is if he wasn't feral how someone
could have either dumped him or lost him.  He is so loving.  If someone
lost him how come they didn't move heaven and earth to get him back?  I
would have.  How could someone dump such a precious little soul?  I know
people do but I will never understand.
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Seanette Blaylock - 29 May 2004 00:43 GMT
Margaret Fine <mefine@mindspring.com> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: For Adopted Cats-Ever Wonder What Their Life Was Like
Before You Adopted Them?:

>What I think about the most, tho, is if he wasn't feral how someone
>could have either dumped him or lost him.  He is so loving.  If someone
>lost him how come they didn't move heaven and earth to get him back?  I
>would have.  How could someone dump such a precious little soul?  I know
>people do but I will never understand.

That's what I'd like to know about Felix. When I met him at the
shelter [he was about 2 years old at the time], I was told he'd been
picked up by Animal Control as a stray about two months before. He
definitely did not grow up feral! He was one of the more
attention-seeking cats at the shelter that day and happily cuddled and
purred when the attendant let me meet him outside the cage. He settled
very quickly into ruling the household and has generally been quite
well-behaved [a bit shy with strangers, but he's getting better about
that]. He's certainly bonded to *his* humans. He'll sit on the edge of
the tub when I'm taking a bath, come running at the sight of his
brush, play teddy-kitty on the bed, etc.

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hpickerong@austin.rr.com - 29 May 2004 04:03 GMT
I have been reading  the wonderful stories about your masters.

All of my three were taken in by me as kittens so not much of a
previous history there
.
My first one, Figaro,  was found at a loading dock where I used to
work by a friend of mine, Her husband asked her to find it a home.
That was three years ago.  How he got there I don't know.  I am just
glad that my friend found him and got us together.
Not much of a history there.

My second one came as a companion for Figaro.  Tito(his name) came
from a friend's cat who had kittens.
Introductions did not go well at first. I never knew that a cat could
growl so loud!
They are buds now

The third one was found under my front stoop along with his two
sisters,  who I  took to vet for initial checkup...etc and then found
homes for.
They were probably placed there by the Mother Cat and she never
returned.
He was the last one I caught. At $65.00 a pop for the vet check-up and
first round of shots I decided to keep him.

I am glad that I have them all, or should I say, that I am glad that
they have me

- Hilden
Susan M - 30 May 2004 04:52 GMT
> Periodically I wonder what his life was like with whoever had him
> initially.

This thread has got me alternately teary-happy and cranky-mad-as-hell when I
read about how our dear kitties lived before they came to their forever
homes with us.  What is wrong with people???

I wonder about Otis since he was born in January in Calgary.  Cold.  He was
found de-hydrated and stray in March, which can still be savagely cold.  On
his first day out at the shelter, Fred and I came in and Otis snagged me
with a claw through the cage and the rest is history.  We had to wait three
days to see if someone claimed him.  Three very long days.  I can imagine
that Otis was a PITA to whoever had him before.  He's been fearless and
attention seeking since then.  He must have known he needed people with
perseverance and patience to live with him :D

And Chester?  That Angel?  He was a surrender to the shelter and I wonder
why on earth?  He is the sweetest, most charming, composed cat I've ever
met.  We picked him out on his last day.  I mean, a couple hours later, he'd
have been killed.  The enormity of that ...   He's still terrified of brooms
and vacuums and cautious with the vast majority of people.  He will walk
right up to a select few newcomers.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
hugging them tightly
O J - 30 May 2004 16:41 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
> On
>his first day out at the shelter, Fred and I came in and Otis snagged me
>with a claw through the cage and the rest is history.

    That's how my boy Sumo picked me out.  He convinced me to adopt
his cage mate, a dear little Russian Blue as well.  I had been looking
at the Siamese Triplets and was planning to inspect Sumo and Tasha
next when I got a tiny claw in my shirt.  I was history.

Regards and Purrs,
O J Gritmon
 
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