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Weeble's Mama
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Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 21:00 GMT Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't told here was that I waited about a month, and then set humane trap out for his mama & remaining 3 siblings. Mama got caught in the trap ONCE, and went berserk big time when I approached the trap (my goal was to trap her, keep her on front porch while I trapped Weeble's three siblings, let her finish raising the kittens, adopt them out & have Mama spayed & then release her back into the wild), she managed to escape the trap when I was about 2 feet away. She never approached the trap again, although I did reset it & all 3 off Weeble's siblings entered it and were on the trip-plate, it didn't go off. We did manage to catch 3 raccoons (or the same raccoon 3 times, since we just released it (and to me one raccoon looks like every other raccoon) - and it waited patiently while we opened the trap) and one opossum (and this one didn't want to leave the trap, I had to pick up the trap & shake it to get it out!).
I would occasionally see Mama & the Trio (what I called them) crossing the back yard, or in the hedgerow that separates our property from the surrounding. And then she & the trio disappeared. I have never seen the trio since them, and have no idea what happened to them.
Mama made an appearance again this spring, and, in the same place she had Weeble & his sibling, she had a litter of 4 kittens. I left food out for her and she continued to accept it and she & the kittens remained there for about a week. Then one morning, about 2 weeks ago, they were gone. I didn't see hide nor hair of Mama at all, until today. I was riding along on the mower, and all of a sudden there was an explosion of black & white cat darting from under a pine/fir tree (I can never tell pine from fir - it has the big soft needles), and I look, and there among some dead branches is an overturned 5 gallon bucket, and dating into the bucket is a kitten! I shut down the mower, and went to investigate while Mama high-tailed it away somewhere. There are 4 kittens, one tuxedo-like except that the parts that would be black are grey tiger, one white with even less grey tiger & a brown spot on it's nose, one white with a few brown/grey tiger blotches & a few orange splotches, and one white with a few brown/grey tiger spots. Fearing that since I startled Mama away that she will abandon them (like she did Weeble), I gathered them into my (oversized) T-shirt and found a box (full of yet-to-be-used Foster & Smith goodies) and a scrap of rug & put them on the front porch., ran to the pet store & got some KMR & some new nipples for the bottle I used on Weeble last year, the grocery store for some unscented plain cheap tissues with which to wipe kitten bottoms with until they are litter trained, and thinking ahead I got some jars of baby food just in case.
The kittens eyes are open and VERY blue, they have their baby teeth, but they aren't 'walking' yet, still kinda crawling a bit, almost walking. Right now they are VERY scared, though they did pee when stimulated, they wouldn't eat (their bellies are kinda big, so I'm thinking Mama had just fed them)
They are all females, and I have tentatively named them Eenie (the white with brown/grey tiger spots) Meanie (the white with brown/grey tiger & orange spots - and it seems to fit her as she hisses at me a lot), Minie (or maybe Minnie - as in Mouse?) for the white & grey tiger, and Moe for the one with brown spot on her nose. Thankfully I didn't see any fleas on them, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee from thinking they are food and eating them.
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Kreisleriana - 17 May 2004 21:06 GMT On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:00:08 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> yodeled:
>Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his >sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee >from thinking they are food and eating them. OMG, a bunch of Weeblings! Keeping my fingers crossed for you and all of them, and hoping you can nab that Mama cat and do the right thing for her.
In the meantime-- pictures of the tiny tots, maybe?
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Tanada - 17 May 2004 21:14 GMT Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
> There are 4 kittens, one tuxedo-like except that the parts that > would be black are grey tiger, one white with even less grey tiger & a brown [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > litter trained, and thinking ahead I got some jars of baby food just in > case. Gorsh. I hope you can either re-unite them with Mama and get them all spayed, or be able to raise them by hand, and catch Mama. Good luck and please post piccies and keep us informed. The cats offer purrs for the kits' well being.
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Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 21:48 GMT I'm not gonna hold my breath that we can even catch Mama - and even if we do, I'm doubtful if she will accept her brood back.
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> > There are 4 kittens, one tuxedo-like except that the parts that > > would be black are grey tiger, one white with even less grey tiger & a brown [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam, Rob, and the NC seven Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 21:48 GMT As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK
or http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s
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> Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his > sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee > from thinking they are food and eating them. Karen - 17 May 2004 22:03 GMT OH dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Ooohhhh dear. Those kittens are way too cute for words. I hope you can catch mama too. My they are cute. TJ doesn't live near you does she?
Karen
> As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 22:45 GMT IIRC - TJ's in Arizona - I'm in Indiana
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> OH dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Ooohhhh dear. Those kittens are way too > cute for words. I hope you can catch mama too. My they are cute. TJ doesn't [quoted text clipped - 117 lines] > > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Bridget - 18 May 2004 16:08 GMT Indiana, huh? I was just thinking about a third cat. Hmmmm. And I was just in your neck of the woods yesterday, I think. Moe is a cutie.
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Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
> IIRC - TJ's in Arizona - I'm in Indiana cati - 17 May 2004 22:11 GMT so cute and so gorgeous. makes me want another kitten!
Cati
> As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 23:13 GMT Well, if you're in southern Indiana, you're welcome to one - once they're old enough, that is.
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> so cute and so gorgeous. makes me want another kitten! > [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Annie Wxill - 17 May 2004 22:39 GMT > As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK > > or > http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s They are so precious and look clean and healthy. It looks like Mama cat has been doing a good job. I hope you can catch her before the next litter. You are so kind to take care of the babies. Annie
Kreisleriana - 17 May 2004 22:58 GMT On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:48:25 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> yodeled:
>As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! >http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK > >or >http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s <scream> <thud>
OMG, they are so precious. How old do you think they are?
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Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 23:12 GMT 4-6 weeks is my guess
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> >As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > >http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 May 2004 01:27 GMT > OMG, they are so precious. How old do you think they are? Wow, I thought they were going to be younger! They look about 4 or 5 weeks old to me. They've reached that really adorable stage where their ears have become pointy, and their faces have stopped looking like little rats and started looking like little cats. :)
I'll bet they can start on solid food pretty soon. They are VERY CUTE!!
I hope that someday you can catch the mother cat. A friend of mine has a feral group in her yard (that she feeds regularly) and she has never been able to catch the matriarch, who has litter after litter. She (my friend) does catch some of the kittens, and some have become part of her household. But catching the mother has been a quixotic enterprise thus far...
Joyce
Cheryl - 18 May 2004 00:29 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> dumped this in news:ty9qc.69863 $iF6.5871256@attbi_s02 on 17 May 2004:
> http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK Waaa! Little fuzzballs!
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jmcquown - 18 May 2004 01:44 GMT > As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK > > or > http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s AWWWWWWWWW! Terribly, Terribly, TERRIBLY CUTE! Love the names!
Jill
>> Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his >> sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] >> email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com >> http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Helen Wheels - 18 May 2004 02:38 GMT Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
> As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK > > or > http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s Oh, oh, oh, oh. They're sooo gorgeous.
Tanada - 18 May 2004 19:23 GMT Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
> As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK > > or > http://tinyurl.com/2vu2s Those are some seriously cute kittens. You might want to watch out for Minnie, though, she has a serious resemblance to a certain bad cat who haunts my computer from time to time.
Pam S.
CATherine - 19 May 2004 05:12 GMT On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:48:25 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK The kittens are adorable and so very white. Eenie has unusual coloring.
-- CATherine
polonca12000 - 19 May 2004 22:37 GMT So adorable! Serious KFW! Best wishes,
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> As requested, piccies added. Major KF warnings! > http://community.webshots.com/album/143920530zyHZCK [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Magic Mood Jeep? - 17 May 2004 21:50 GMT For those of you that are interested, I never did finish mowing as by the time I got back from the stores it was raining, and now there is a full blown thunder storm going on. I got soaked just putting the mower back in the garage!
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> Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his > sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee > from thinking they are food and eating them. lrulan - 18 May 2004 00:04 GMT oh no. I hope you catch the mama cat soon and have her spayed so she stops having kitties. Not that kitties are bad but I'm sure she would be a much happier, healthier cat not having these babies every year. Poor cat. What are you going to do with the babies if mama doesn't come back?
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> Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his > sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee > from thinking they are food and eating them. Magic Mood Jeep? - 18 May 2004 02:14 GMT I've contacted a local pet-rescue, they will post them on Petfinder when I say that they are old enough to 'leave home'.
I really don't hold much with capturing Mama, she's very feral, the closest I ever got to her was the 2 feet right before she slammed her way out of the trap last fall. I do want to TNR her, as I don't think that she'll take the kittens back now.
The Fearsome Foursome have already gotten used to us, come running towards us whenever we go out on the (enclosed) front porch. I do have a heating pad on low under the box, and they have eaten a mush of canned kitten food & KMR - they won't suckle from a bottle but they will LICK the milk from a nipple if I hold the bottle out & squeeze it - but that gets very tiring. I have set up a litterbox for them, but so far they've just wandered through it - I'm going to have to teach them (I was lucky with Weeble, he taught himself - just started peeing in a corner of his nest-box, so I gave him a litterbox and he went to town & scattered litter all over trying to dig to China.... he still does that too, thank goodness for deep hooded litterboxes).
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> oh no. I hope you catch the mama cat soon and have her spayed so she stops > having kitties. Not that kitties are bad but I'm sure she would be a much [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Takayuki - 18 May 2004 22:10 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>The Fearsome Foursome have already gotten used to us, come running towards >us whenever we go out on the (enclosed) front porch. Hehehe. That didn't take long! The kittens are so adoooorable! I feel sorry for the mother though, who must be wondering about her four precious babies. It'll probably also mean she'll go back into heat much sooner. It's too bad she's so trap wary.
Kajikit - 20 May 2004 11:20 GMT Magic Mood Jeep© had something important to tell us on Tue, 18 May 2004 01:14:51 GMT:
>I've contacted a local pet-rescue, they will post them on Petfinder when I >say that they are old enough to 'leave home'. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >The Fearsome Foursome have already gotten used to us, come running towards >us whenever we go out on the (enclosed) front porch. I do have a heating They're absolutely adorable! I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding loving homes for them - it'll be easier than trying to catch mama kitty :(
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Steve Touchstone - 18 May 2004 01:52 GMT On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:00:08 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Most of you know that Weeble's real mama abandoned him and one of his >sisters last August, when he was only a day old. The story that I haven't [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >one didn't want to leave the trap, I had to pick up the trap & shake it to >get it out!). LOL. A neighbor here put out a trap trying to catch a possum, and caught Rocky instead. Rocky learned, won't go near a trap now. The possum was never caught.
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>I'm keeping them on the front porch so to keep Fat Basta-, er.... Tennessee >from thinking they are food and eating them. Purring that mama will come back (and hopefully allow herself to be trapped and neutered. Purring for the little ones.
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 18 May 2004 02:29 GMT You should put food out *at the same time each evening* where the mother can find it for a day or two, then set a trap and put the kittens in a carrier butted up to the back of it. Mama may very well try to get to her kittens and spring the trap. If it doesn't work the first time it wouldn't hurt to repeat the process each night for awhile and see what happens. You can tie the trap's door up and start feeding Mama in front of it, then gradually move the food each night a little farther into the trap until she's eating it inside and then just untie the door and you'll get the cat. Make sure to cover the trap right away once she is in it so she'll calm down. I would definitely use a different trap than whatever you used last time because she shouldn't have been able to escape AT ALL once the door was down. A Havahart racoon size trap is inexpensive and will work just fine. It may take awhile to catch her, but she needs to be spayed and sometimes you just have to be patient and take however long it takes, even if it's a month.
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Marina - 18 May 2004 04:58 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote
> They are all females, and I have tentatively named them Eenie (the white > with brown/grey tiger spots) Meanie (the white with brown/grey tiger & > orange spots - and it seems to fit her as she hisses at me a lot), Minie (or > maybe Minnie - as in Mouse?) for the white & grey tiger, and Moe for the one > with brown spot on her nose. Thankfully I didn't see any fleas on them, but > I'm not going to hold my breath. Aww, poor babies. Is there any TNR group operating near you? Maybe someone would know how to trap a cat who has grown wary of the kind of trap you used before. I hope Mama can be neutered, or you might end up fostering ever more kittens. ;o) These are so cute, thank you for taking care of them.
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