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David Yehudah - 09 May 2004 03:34 GMT
My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.

Some of you may recall I got her a horse for her birthday, almost
exactly the color of the Budweiser Beer horses, but smaller. Patty gets
a big kick out of riding him, because he is a professionally trained
Tennessee Walker and has a great gait, according to DW; to me he feels
as if I'm riding a bicycle over railroad tracks.

Anywho, another lady who boards her Walker the same place we do is a
real expert with them. The other day we were out there and this lady
gets her horse out in the big arena and starts putting him through his
paces. She has a big horsewhip and really makes him work. Patty and I
both notice what a beautiful gait he has at a brisk canter. Just gorgeous.

Well, nothing would do Patty but she's gotta do that. But she doesn't
want to use the whip because she thinks it's cruel; she doesn't realize
that that the whip is just for noise. It never touches the animal. So
she gets her horse, Sneakers, out in the arena and tries to make him run
by throwing her hands up in the air and shouting, "Run!" Sneakers
responds by slowing down to a plodding walk. Before long Patty is worn
plumb out, all hot and sweaty, and the horse is so bored he's about to
fall asleep on his feet.

I explain to Patty about how the whip works, so she jumps in the car and
drives over to the feed store and buys a big horse whip.

Any of you ever try to make a whip crack? :-) Patty gets out there in
the middle of the arena, faces Sneakers with this "I'm the boss around
here" look on her face, slowly snakes the end of the whip over her
shoulder, and gives herself a crack on the right butt cheek that neither
she, Sneakers, nor I will ever forget.

And then she gets mad at me! She comes storming toward me to give me a
piece of her mind (as if she could spare it), I'm standing there with a
straight face, and the horse comes up behind her and gives her a nudge
almost strong enough to knock her off her feet.

That's when I lost it; I fell to my knees and wrapped my arms around her
knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.
Hopitus2 - 09 May 2004 06:00 GMT
ROFL. Years ago, after a lot of practice, this big-city critter learned and
to this day can crack a bullwhip (dunno what a horsewhip is) like Lash Larue
(remember him?...well, probably not.....try Zorro). What your DW needs is
practice.

: My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
:
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: knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
: tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.
Kreisleriana - 09 May 2004 14:42 GMT
>ROFL. Years ago, after a lot of practice, this big-city critter learned and
>to this day can crack a bullwhip (dunno what a horsewhip is) like Lash Larue
>(remember him?...well, probably not.....try Zorro).

Indiana Jones?

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David Yehudah - 09 May 2004 17:42 GMT
Of course I remember Lash Larue. When I was about 7 or 8 he inspired me
to make my own whip (a long piece of rope) and try to learn how to use
it. I cracked my own butt a few times with it, as well as my ear, the
back of my head. . .Never did get it to go "Crack!" More like "Pffft."

That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
reading the paper and DJ was standing in front of me whipping those
things about. I couldn't see what he was doing, but the sound effects
cracked me up: "Whish, whish, thump, Owwww." Repeat over and over. He
was beating himself to death. Finally the Chucks got away from him and
went right through my newspaper, narrowly missing my head.

> ROFL. Years ago, after a lot of practice, this big-city critter learned and
> to this day can crack a bullwhip (dunno what a horsewhip is) like Lash Larue
> (remember him?...well, probably not.....try Zorro). What your DW needs is
> practice.
CK - 09 May 2004 19:36 GMT
> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
> movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
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> was beating himself to death. Finally the Chucks got away from him and
> went right through my newspaper, narrowly missing my head.

My big brother made something like that out of two chair legs with some
chain inbetween when he was a kid. Luckily the chair was something he'd
found in a rubbish heap and not one of our chairs at home, or he'd have
got an earful from mom. Might be close in age with your son. I'm born in
'63 and my bro in '61. (My parents are mom - 1939/dad - 1935, and I've
been under the impression that you're in or close to your 60's too??)

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David Yehudah - 09 May 2004 21:39 GMT
Hi, Christine
    Pretty close; I was born in '41, my son in '68.
Cheers,
Dave

>> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
>> movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
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> '63 and my bro in '61. (My parents are mom - 1939/dad - 1935, and I've
> been under the impression that you're in or close to your 60's too??)

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John F. Eldredge - 10 May 2004 00:41 GMT
>> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in
>> the  movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I
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>mom - 1939/dad - 1935, and I've  been under the impression that
>you're in or close to your 60's too??)  

When my father was in his early teens, he and his two brothers (one
older, one younger) turned a forked tree in the back yard into a
giant slingshot.  They stretched a bicycle inner tube between trunks,
and launched a fist-sized rock.  It went considerably farther than
they expected, right in through the clapboard wall of the house, just
missing their mother.  As you might expect, they were in serious
trouble with both parents over that experiment.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 09 May 2004 21:13 GMT
> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
> movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
> reading the paper and DJ was standing in front of me whipping those
> things about. I couldn't see what he was doing, but the sound effects
> cracked me up: "Whish, whish, thump, Owwww."

Wow, you certainly were a tolerant parent! I can't even imagine my father
letting me play with something like that in the house, let alone with him
in range! And my parents weren't overly strict - they just didn't like
fast-moving objects flying around the house. :)

Glad you survived! (And that your son did, too. :))

Joyce
David Yehudah - 09 May 2004 21:43 GMT
Hi, Joyce
    You're probably right. However, I started training the kid in Hop Ki Do
when he was 4, and I hated to restrict his activities along that line.
Along that same note, he decided when he was 17 and had grown to a
respectable 6'3" and 190 lbs. that he could take the old man in the
ring, our dojo (gym) at home. I tried to talk him out of it, but he
insisted. The fight lasted about 15 seconds. That was when I taught him
you never teach anyone everything you know.

>  > That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
>  > movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
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>
> Joyce

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Tanada - 11 May 2004 04:53 GMT
> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
> movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
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> was beating himself to death. Finally the Chucks got away from him and
> went right through my newspaper, narrowly missing my head.

LOL, one of our friends gave Mike a set of foam padded numchaku when he
was a kid.  They're still floating around here somewhere.  He didn't
hurt himself or anyone else, but that's mainly because of the padding.
He tried hard enough.  IIRC, this was during his teen-age mutant ninja
period when he swore that he'd lose his turtle powers if he didn't get
pizza every day.  Aren't kids great?

Pam S.
Seanette Blaylock - 11 May 2004 07:40 GMT
Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Horse sense (OT)(Long):

>LOL, one of our friends gave Mike a set of foam padded numchaku when he
>was a kid.  They're still floating around here somewhere.  He didn't
>hurt himself or anyone else, but that's mainly because of the padding.
>He tried hard enough.  IIRC, this was during his teen-age mutant ninja
>period when he swore that he'd lose his turtle powers if he didn't get
>pizza every day.  Aren't kids great?

I was recently in Burger King and saw that the Turtles were kids' meal
toys. I mentioned to the cashier that I thought the Turtles had been
popular originally in the early- to mid-80's. She commented that she
hadn't yet been born when they were originally out. [sigh]

Of course, my current job has me feeling kinda elderly [at 34]. Most
of my colleagues are college students, with some HS-age types and a
few more mature types. I have co-workers I could have given birth to.
:-(

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Yowie - 13 May 2004 07:23 GMT
> Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say
> about Re: Horse sense (OT)(Long):
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> few more mature types. I have co-workers I could have given birth to.
> :-(

Thats exactly how I felt when the new work experience kids arrive for their
summer work. One particularly nice looking young man was quite happy to
inform me that he wasn't even born until after I left highschool. At that
point I realised just how old I appeared in his eyes (not to mention
*heavily* pregnant at the time) and realised that despite the fact I may
have considered him rather good looking, he certainly wasn't considering me
at all. In fact, I could have been his Mum!

it also takes me by surprise when the radio does the "classic hits" thing,
and says "this was a hit 20 years ago" and I'm *still* enjoying the music it
came out yesterday.....

And realising that the guys from Duran Duran are like *50* now and don't
look all that drop-dead-sexy anymore....

Or when I look down at Cary and realise I'm a Mum, and all Mums, by
*definition*, are grown ups.

Thats when i start to feel old.....

Yowie (also 34)
Cathi - 14 May 2004 18:07 GMT
>Thats exactly how I felt when the new work experience kids arrive for their
>summer work. One particularly nice looking young man was quite happy to
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>
>Yowie (also 34)

Thinking music, what *really* hurts is watching Top of the Pops 2, a
retro music programme which shows hits from the Sixties up until the
present day.  They can show footage of something that was absolutely
*massive* five years ago, and chances are it won't mean a thing to me.
But show a clip of a minor hit by a one-hit wonder from twenty or so
years ago, and that's a different matter entirely .... frequently, Rich
and I are word-perfect on lyrics.

Do we need to get out more?
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A bit more than 34.

Yowie - 15 May 2004 01:17 GMT
> >Thats exactly how I felt when the new work experience kids arrive for their
> >summer work. One particularly nice looking young man was quite happy to
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> years ago, and that's a different matter entirely .... frequently, Rich
> and I are word-perfect on lyrics.

I"m always amazed that I can remember all the lyrics from a song I haven't
heard in 20 years, but can't find the car keys that I put down less than 5
minutes ago.

Methinks my brain stores the wrong stuff.....

Yowie
Kreisleriana - 11 May 2004 19:27 GMT
>> That reminds me of when my son was a teenager, he saw Bruce Lee in the
>> movies fighting with Num Chucks, also known as Nunchaku. I was sitting
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Pam S.

He was right.  I definitely lose my turtle powers if I don't have
pizza every day.

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Jette Goldie - 09 May 2004 22:39 GMT
> ROFL. Years ago, after a lot of practice, this big-city critter learned and
> to this day can crack a bullwhip (dunno what a horsewhip is) like Lash Larue
> (remember him?...well, probably not.....try Zorro). What your DW needs is
> practice.

Or how about some lessons from the man who taught
Catwoman?

http://www.delongis.com/ADLactionclass.html

in particular
http://www.delongis.com/first6.html

(I've seen him in action - he's fab in RL)

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jmcquown - 09 May 2004 07:30 GMT
> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
>
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> Tennessee Walker and has a great gait, according to DW; to me he feels
> as if I'm riding a bicycle over railroad tracks.

> Anywho, another lady who boards her Walker the same place we do is a
> real expert with them. The other day we were out there and this lady
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> her knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because
> if she tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.

ROFL!!!!

Er, that would be the proper gait! LOL

Now this is my first *ever* memory, okay?  We are talking about me being
slightly less than a year old.  My great-great uncle raised walkers but also
had a nag in the corral.  So my family is visiting these folks, the
Stokely's.  Dad puts me up on this nag and they are all standing there,
talking.  Each with (of course) bourbon on the rocks - what else would you
serve your great grand nephew in Virginia except mint juleps?  So I'm
sitting on this horse and she twitches her tail and I fall off and start
crying.

My mother never believed I remembered that until I described them standing
there, holding rocks glasses.  Like a -1 year old would have a clue what
rocks glasses were, the colour of the liquid or how to describe that damned
corral and the ugly nag they put me on.  It's amazing I ever got on a horse
again <G>

Uh, don't give me a whip, okay?

Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 09 May 2004 09:18 GMT
> And then she gets mad at me! She comes storming toward me to give me a
> piece of her mind (as if she could spare it)

LOL - I was going to say that maybe you shouldn't anger a woman with a
whip in her hand, but in this case, it sounds like you weren't in much
danger. :)

Maybe she could take lessons?

Joyce
Christine Burel - 09 May 2004 14:06 GMT
ROFL, Dave -- this is priceless!  Thanks for the laugh and purrs for Patty's
posterior!
Christine
> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
>
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> knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
> tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.
Victor Martinez - 09 May 2004 14:33 GMT
> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.

That is *too* funny!!! BTW, what is a gait?

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David Yehudah - 09 May 2004 17:50 GMT
Hi, Victor
    A horse's 'gait' is his rate of travel; i.e., walk (paso), trot
(trote), lope (?), canter (?), or gallop (galope). Those are the only
ones I can think of, but there may be others.
Cheers,
Dave

>> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
>
> That is *too* funny!!! BTW, what is a gait?

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TBird - 10 May 2004 15:07 GMT
> Hi, Victor
> A horse's 'gait' is his rate of travel; i.e., walk (paso), trot
> (trote), lope (?), canter (?), or gallop (galope). Those are the only
> ones I can think of, but there may be others.
> Cheers,
> Dave

Now you are scaring me.

A lope and a canter are the same.  (One is a common Western riding term, the
other a common Emglish riding term, same pace.)

A gait is not just the pace, it is the style.  Not all horses are gaited
horses.

Gaited horses tend to have a trained (and often bred)  style to their walk
and trot.  My Quarter horses are not going to be able to look like a
Tennessee Walker, pretty much no matter what I do.  The Tennessee Walker has
a high stepping gait, Quarter horses tend to drag their toes given half a
chance.  Quarter horses are not gaited as a rule.

It seems to me from what you've written, you and your wife should seek out a
trainer to help you learn more about your horse, and maybe horses in
general.  I've been a rider since I was about 10 years old, and now own my
own Quarter Horse filly, and I am still learning new things every day, and
taking classes or going to shows at all opportunities.  I am also still
regularly getting my butt kicked and having to teach my girl what I want
from her so that we are both safe.

If your stories are not just for amusement, you should really look into
classes and/or a trainer.

TBird <---- wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do with a gaited horse
in regards to groundwork....

> >> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
> >
> > That is *too* funny!!! BTW, what is a gait?
Steve Touchstone - 09 May 2004 17:16 GMT
>My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
>
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>
>And then she gets mad at me!

Well, of course she was mad, it was obviously your fault ;-)
>She comes storming toward me to give me a
>piece of her mind (as if she could spare it), I'm standing there with a
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>knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
>tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.

Perhaps you might suggest of crop instead of a whip

ROTFL
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TBird - 10 May 2004 15:08 GMT
> >My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
> >
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>
> Perhaps you might suggest of crop instead of a whip

A crop is for riding.
They were attempting groundwork, sounds like.

TBird <---- a little worried

> ROTFL
TBird - 10 May 2004 14:51 GMT
While this was an absolutely hysterically funny story....

Ummm.... has your wife doen groundwork before?  It seems it was all new to
her the way you tell the story.  And the horse getting close enough to nudge
her is actually a potentially dangerous habit.

I've been to several classes with trainers, and groundwork is still
something I have to work at.  I use a lariat rather than a whip; for one
think it makes more noise against my hip, I can wave it to get the horse
moving, and I can throw part of it if they don't do as asked.  AND, I never
risk snapping myself in the butt with it.  ;-)

TBird <--- strong believe in horse training classes for horse trainers  ;-)

> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.
>
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> knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
> tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.
David Yehudah - 10 May 2004 16:04 GMT
Thanks, TBird
    My wife's family raised horses and she has been around them since
childhood. She's pretty knowledgeable, much more than I. I had a quarter
horse when I was a kid, but that's been 50 years ago. The one time I
rode Sneakers, it was almost a fight to the death ("Don't ride through
the stables!!!" "Tell that to the damn horse!!!")
    I have been known to use artistic license on occasion. :-)

> While this was an absolutely hysterically funny story....
>
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>>knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
>>tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.

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TBird - 10 May 2004 17:12 GMT
> Thanks, TBird
> My wife's family raised horses and she has been around them since
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the stables!!!" "Tell that to the damn horse!!!")
> I have been known to use artistic license on occasion. :-)

Okay - 'cos you were really starting to scare me!

TBird <---- much relieved  ;-)

> > While this was an absolutely hysterically funny story....
> >
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> >>knees, and tell her please not to hit me with that whip, because if she
> >>tries she'll hit herself again and get me in real trouble.
Bridget - 10 May 2004 18:39 GMT
>     I have been known to use artistic license on occasion. :-)

On occasion?!?  Oh, yeah, you're using that artistic license again.
Sherry - 11 May 2004 01:30 GMT
>Thanks, TBird
>    My wife's family raised horses and she has been around them since
>childhood. She's pretty knowledgeable, much more than I. I had a quarter
>horse when I was a kid, but that's been 50 years ago. The one time I
>rode Sneakers, it was almost a fight to the death ("Don't ride through
>the stables!!!" "Tell that to the damn horse!!!")

Your expert horsemanship sounds like mine. I admit I am rather lost in all this
"groundwork" and such lingo..... I had the same horse for 20 years, I got her
when I was 7. She was a paint mare, 17 hands high. I couldn't heave a saddle on
her by myself, so I just led her over to the doghouse, climbed on it, then
"mounted" the horse bareback. But first, in order to catch the horse, I had to
put the bridle in a bucket. Make no mistake, the horse was much smarter than me
and even that didn't  always work. I braided ribbons in that poor horse's tail
& mane and she suffered hats, and all sorts of ridiculous girly things.  I
still don't know a thing about proper horsmanship, but I managed to stay on
(most of the time) and I dearly loved that horse.
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 10 May 2004 16:11 GMT
>While this was an absolutely hysterically funny story....
>
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>
>TBird <--- strong believe in horse training classes for horse trainers  ;-)

I envy you.  I am a big city girl, but I am lucky enough to live very
close to a riding stable, where I go visit the horses often.  
The horses are like local celebrities-- along with being ridden and
cooed over by teenage girls, they are regularly visited by the tiny
people of a nearby day-care center.  They (the horses) really seem to
enjoy this attention.  
I swung by this very morning on my run, and saw little Oreo, a pinto
Shetland, out in the mini-paddock.  He's a very affable little guy,
and will put up with scratching and cooing even if you don't have any
carrots. ;)

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Hopitus2 - 10 May 2004 18:53 GMT
Uh...you can no more teach anyone to crack a bullwhip online than you can
teach them to play tennis....but if anyone has an urge that surfaced to
crack bullwhip (probably longer and bigger than horsewhip, but since I don't
know what a horsewhip is, who knows?) here's a tip: Never, repeat never,
while practicing, did I whap myself in the behind with the thing...the way
to fling it is way over to the side, fling sideways with a strong wrist snap
at the end. Do NOT fling it overhead like a softball nor underhand like a
baseball. It should be at your side and well away from your body at
beginning of throw. End of questionably useful 411. LOL.

: >While this was an absolutely hysterically funny story....
: >
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: claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful.
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David Yehudah - 12 May 2004 01:33 GMT
If I sounded a little superior there, I take it back. Today was the
first time I tried to crack that whip, and it ain't easy. On my second
try I managed to snag my glasses and sling them across the arena. First
try just kinda went 'thump.'

Did you ever see a horse laugh so hard he cried?

> My DW gives me so much entertainment it ought to be illegal.

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