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Update:Bloodbath
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Caroline S. - 04 May 2004 16:03 GMT Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws are accounted for, Pippin and Fizz's mouths look fine. Ears look fine too. Behaviorally, we are going to try Buspar for Pippin and Amitryptiline for Fizz for 6-8 weeks to see if that helps. Either way, we'll then wean them off of the meds and take it from there.
I'm waiting on a call-back about the urine tests and blood work (for the meds).
Thanks for the purrs. I've got to go and try to focus on my exam tonight. *sigh*
-Caroline S.
Mary - 04 May 2004 16:58 GMT >Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws >are accounted for, Could they have killed a bird or rat and maybe that's where the blood came from?
Magic Mood Jeep? - 04 May 2004 18:15 GMT > >Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws > >are accounted for, > > Could they have killed a bird or rat and maybe that's where the blood came > from? I was thinking along those lines myself - a hapless 'intruder' bore the wrath of the kitties furor!
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TBird - 04 May 2004 19:35 GMT > > >Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All > claws [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I was thinking along those lines myself - a hapless 'intruder' bore the > wrath of the kitties furor! I've found bird feet and no blood, feathers or guts. But never found blood and nothing else.
They are all boy kitties? Because my Swazie was a NYC feral and she used to get her period all over my bed covers and bookbag and stuff...lots of blood.
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Takayuki - 05 May 2004 05:22 GMT >I've found bird feet and no blood, feathers or guts. But never found blood >and nothing else. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >TBird <---- tis a mystery I didn't know cats had periods. I thought queens had to mate in order to ovulate, so nothing would happen when they're not sexually active (aside from going into heat). I have no idea though.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 May 2004 09:43 GMT >> my Swazie was a NYC feral and she used to get her period all over >> my bed covers and bookbag and stuff...lots of blood. > > I didn't know cats had periods. I've never heard this either. Do any animals other than humans menstruate?
Joyce
Hopitus2 - 05 May 2004 20:26 GMT (LOL) Dogs sure do.
: > "TBird" <64tbird@earthling.net> wrote: : [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : : Joyce TBird - 05 May 2004 21:33 GMT > > "TBird" <64tbird@earthling.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Joyce Yep , they do. I asked my biology teacher way back in high school when it happened. (Talk about being embarrassed.)
She was a stray, so she may have mated first, I don't know if we ever looked into getting her fixed because my tom was neutered (and declawed) and we were keeping her in the apartment. We'd found her in our stationary store, and she lived in our apartment for a while, then went back to the store, but I don't remember why. Anyway, I never caught her doing it, and it was always a contained in one spot, a puddle of blood, about a half cup. It wasn't all over the place.
Anyway - it's doesn't much matter if Caroline's cats are all male. LOL!
TBird <--- yer sure they're all male... right? ;-)
Steve G - 07 May 2004 18:04 GMT (...)
> > I've never heard this either. Do any animals other than humans menstruate? > > > > Joyce > > Yep , they do. I asked my biology teacher way back in high school when it > happened. (Talk about being embarrassed.) Other animals than humans menstruate, but cats are not one of 'em! Cats ovulate after mating, not on a periodic (ha!) basis.
Steve.
Nik Simpson - 05 May 2004 13:11 GMT >> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. >> All claws are accounted for, > > Could they have killed a bird or rat and maybe that's where the blood > came from? That was my thought as well, back when I lived in Alabama and Eliza was in her prime I used to come home to a house full of feathers and bits of bird quite frequently. It looked like somebody had carried out a controlled explosion of Bluejay in the living room, ugh!
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Christine Burel - 04 May 2004 19:02 GMT Good luck -- purrs continuing! Christine
> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws > are accounted for, Pippin and Fizz's mouths look fine. Ears look fine too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Caroline S. Caroline S. - 04 May 2004 19:54 GMT And another update: Fizz's crystal count is indeed high again, and he had some blood in his urine too. Blood work on both is good, so they are ok for the meds. We are also to try positive reinforcement when they are not beating the tar out of each other, and negative reinforcement when they are.
And I don't think the blood came from an outsider, certainly not from a bird ( no feathers, droppings or feet). I suppose a mouse would be possible, but it either ran all over the house, or a cat carried it all over the house allowing its blood to splatter all over. and to answer TBird's question, they are all boys, so no periods.
I don't know how long I will be able to deal with medicating 2 cats twice a day, on top of work/school/baby. I'm worried that at this point our lifestyle is not conducive to a 4 cat household. Only 1 more year of school left, hopefully we can all hang on until then.
-Caroline S.
> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws > are accounted for, Pippin and Fizz's mouths look fine. Ears look fine too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Caroline S. lrulan - 04 May 2004 23:40 GMT Caroline, purrs and prayers that things work out for the best, whatever that turns out to be. Please keep us updated. Jazz & his mama
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> And another update: > Fizz's crystal count is indeed high again, and he had some blood in his [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > -Caroline S. Karen Chuplis - 05 May 2004 00:27 GMT > And another update: > Fizz's crystal count is indeed high again, and he had some blood in his [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -Caroline S. Is there a room that you can set up just especially to put one or the other of the hostile cats in when you are gone? Window, tree, litter box food, maybe a radio or tv? This is how I survived with Pearl and Grant and Sugar for a long time. I had them together ONLY when I was there. It was much less stressful for them, and I alternated who got the room when. Even if the room just had a chair by a window or something with the ammenities, they will be comfortable. It sure worked wonders and it still helps if someone gets too excited. I pop the "offender" (either Grant "stalking" Pearl - he's really not aggressive but it annoys the p*ss out of her) or Pearl sitting and making noises at Grant or chasing Sugar. Seems to settle whoever out. More often than not, by the time I open the door a half hour later, whoever is in there is settled in the window and comes out when ready. It's a thought.
Karen
CATherine - 05 May 2004 03:44 GMT >And another update: >Fizz's crystal count is indeed high again, and he had some blood in his >urine too. Blood work on both is good, so they are ok for the meds. We are >also to try positive reinforcement when they are not beating the tar out of >each other, and negative reinforcement when they are. Maybe he had a crystal lodged near the tip and cutting the tender flesh and letting drops of blood come out? I once had a gallstone lodged that let bile flow freely so it ate holes in my guts. I reckon any kind of these stones have sharp edges.
>And I don't think the blood came from an outsider, certainly not from a bird >( no feathers, droppings or feet). I suppose a mouse would be possible, but [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >-Caroline S. HUGS!! Perhaps it would help to have everything on a rigid schedule; if that is possible. I know from experience cats are creatures of habit and would love a schedule.
>> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All >claws [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> -Caroline S. -- CATherine
Marina - 05 May 2004 03:54 GMT > I don't know how long I will be able to deal with medicating 2 cats twice a > day, on top of work/school/baby. I'm worried that at this point our > lifestyle is not conducive to a 4 cat household. Only 1 more year of school > left, hopefully we can all hang on until then. Many, many purrs coming over that you hang in there and that Fizz's crystals clear up, and he calms down when they do.
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Takayuki - 05 May 2004 05:24 GMT >I don't know how long I will be able to deal with medicating 2 cats twice a >day, on top of work/school/baby. I'm worried that at this point our >lifestyle is not conducive to a 4 cat household. Only 1 more year of school >left, hopefully we can all hang on until then. Work, school, and baby sounds like too much to do! I think most people would find two out of those three more than enough. I'm glad you're far along on school now.
Pat - 05 May 2004 05:35 GMT > And another update: > Fizz's crystal count is indeed high again, and he had some blood in his [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -Caroline S. Caroline,
When I lived in Arizona and had 4 cats (all huge Maine Coons) living with me in a 225' sq. house, two of them - Whitefoot and Safford - were mortals enemies for a while.
Safford was the younger one and a litter mate of Cotton, who Whitefoot absolutely adored. Whitefoot also got along well with his own litter mate and sister, Nia, who also loved Cotton. Nia was not fond of Safford but she didn't go out of her way to anagonize him the way Whitefoot did. Safford would always run screaming from Whitefoot, who would chase and beat him up mercilessly and relentlessly, many times a day. This went on for a LONG time, and finally, I had to seek a solution.
What finally cured the situation was the intrusion of a common enemy. It was an unintended result of having to take care of my ex's cat, but before it happened I tried other ideas which I now regret.
Since Whitefoot had seniority in the household, I persuaded a soft-hearted friend who had a houseful of cats and dogs that there's always room for one more. She was glad to take Safford in but after a while it was clear that Safford wasn't holding up under the stress. She a young cat that looked a lot like Whitefoot, and this cat would stalk Safford whenever he went to the food dish. He only wanted to play, but Safford assumed he was going to be terrorized, and would stop eating and go hide.
Safford was getting so thin and haggard that I ended up taking him home, and giving Whitefoot to her instead. It almost broke my heart to let Whitefoot go, and I think Whitefoot was brokenhearted too. And her dogs times chased and scared him half to death. So, after a short time, I took Whitefoot back home too.
Around this time, my ex-husband brought Graybar, a cat I had found in a dumpster as a kitten, to stay with us for a while. Graybar had spent time with us in the distant past, when he was much younger, and had gotten along reasonably well with everyone. This time, even thought Graybar acted like a gentleman at all times, all four of my cats were displeased by his presence.
From that day forward, Whitefoot started treating Safford with the same tenderness he showed toward his sister and Cotton, and they became best buddies for life. In fact, when Safford was killed by a passing motorist after we moved to Missouri, Whitefoot grieved heavily for a long time.
So think about this.... Maybe you can "borrow" a cat that both Fizz and Pippin dislike, and see if having a common enemy for a while will cause them to bond. It might work, and for sure has to be better than the broken hearts that will surely result from giving any of your furkids away.
polonca12000 - 04 May 2004 22:00 GMT Purrs and best wishes for your kitties and your exam,
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> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. <snip> > Thanks for the purrs. I've got to go and try to focus on my exam tonight. > *sigh* > > -Caroline S. JP Hobbs - 05 May 2004 13:11 GMT Good to know everythings okCaroline Jean.P.
> Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws > are accounted for, Pippin and Fizz's mouths look fine. Ears look fine too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Caroline S. LOL - 06 May 2004 19:11 GMT > Well, the visit to TED shed no light on the source of the blood. All claws > are accounted for, Pippin and Fizz's mouths look fine. Ears look fine too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Caroline S. Purrs that everyone gets sorted soon. ------ Krista
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