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Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty
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TBird - 03 May 2004 20:52 GMT From the time Joe was a kitten, the instant he met my Honey, he climbed right up on Honey's chest, made himself comfy, and went to sleep.
Now that we all live together, Joe spends his morning following Honey around like a big dog. So half the time we call him "The Labrador". He will bust through doors to get at my Honey. Which is why, the other half of the time, we call him "Battle Cat".
When Honey gets home from work, if he sits on the couch, Joe immediately gets right up there with/on Honey and settles in, purring madly.
Honey has never fed this cat, nor given him water, nor in anyway encouraged this cat to fall madly in love with him. But we all know how cats are. And we all know how "men who prefer dogs" are when faced with cats who claim them.
So there you have Joe, on Honey's chest purring his life away, and Honey saying, "What have I ever done to deserve this cat?", calling Joe a PITA, and generally shaking his head each time Joe pulls a ... well, a Joe. (That is to say, sprawls on his back with his legs spread, or leaps into our spot the moment we get up for a glass of water, or tries to jump on something he can't actually hoist his bulk onto.) Heaven forbid Joe go do something on his own, however, if Honey is on the couch watching TV. It may take a half hour, but eventually Honey will look around, stunned, and demand, "WHERE'S MY LABRADOR!???". And Joe will saunter in from wherever and take up residence on whatever part of Honey looks the most comfortable for himself, and the least comfortable for Honey.
And Honey will grumble about what a pain in the a.s Joe is all the while giving him scritches and pets.
TBird <---- it's our own purrsonal circus
Karen - 03 May 2004 21:17 GMT > From the time Joe was a kitten, the instant he met my Honey, he climbed > right up on Honey's chest, made himself comfy, and went to sleep. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > TBird <---- it's our own purrsonal circus LOL!! SOunds like my dad.
Karen
Duke of URL - 03 May 2004 22:39 GMT > > From the time Joe was a kitten, the instant he met my Honey, he climbed > > right up on Honey's chest, made himself comfy, and went to sleep. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > LOL!! SOunds like my dad. I've known a couple of dog-men who got adopted by cats and became well-trained clatslaves.
And then of course the most famous example is Rush Limbaugh, who never liked cats, who *only* ever had to do with dogs. Then he married and they got a pair of Abyssinians... It's hilarious to hear his occasional typical catslave babbling about his little darlings! How does that saying go ... "No-one is as fervent as a convert"...
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Takayuki - 03 May 2004 22:58 GMT >I've known a couple of dog-men who got adopted by cats and became >well-trained clatslaves. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >catslave babbling about his little darlings! How does that saying go ... >"No-one is as fervent as a convert"... He sounds like a wonderful person. :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 May 2004 23:21 GMT >> And then of course the most famous example is Rush Limbaugh, who never >> liked cats, who *only* ever had to do with dogs. Then he married and >> they got a pair of Abyssinians... It's hilarious to hear his occasional >> typical catslave babbling about his little darlings! > > He sounds like a wonderful person. :) Rush Limbaugh sounds like a wonderful person? Ewww, you can't mean that, Tak! :)
Now TBird's Honey is another matter. He does sound like a nice person.
You can add my dad to this list of former non-cat-people. All through my childhood my father was just barely tolerant of the cats that came and went in my house. My mom liked to take in strays, and all 3 of us kids adored them. He was helpless against 4 females looking all sad-eyed and saying, "Please daddy, can't we keep him/her/them??" :) The best time was when we took in a pregnant stray, got to see the kittens one day after they were born, and kept them until they were 4 weeks old. (Barbaric, I know, but this was the mid-1960s, and a lot of people, including vets, believed that kittens were old enough to be separated from their mother at 4 weeks!)
Anyway, all the while, my dad would grumble and complain about all the cats underfoot, and occasionally he'd put his foot down and order this or that stray, or group of cats, to be taken to the shelter. We always had at least one officially-adopted-from-the-humane-society cat, who was allowed to stay.
But now my father has his own cat and he's just nuts about him. This cat takes long walks with my father, which my dad, being somewhat new to cat behavior (even though he lived with them in our family, he tried to avoid them as much as possible), thinks is completely unique and that Baxter is an amazing cat. I don't have the heart to tell him that many other cats do this, although it's true it's not the norm. I met Baxter on my last visit last month, and he's very, very cute. Long, lanky brown tabby who likes to roll around in the dirt. I just find it very sweet that this long-time dog-person has gotten so attached to a cat. He calls Baxter "a dog in a cat suit."
Also, there's a book called "My Cat Spit McGee", by Willie Morris, which is the autobiographical tale of a cat-hater (himself) who married a woman with cats and proceeded to form a deep bond with a cat. Good story!
Joyce
Dan M - 03 May 2004 23:50 GMT > But now my father has his own cat and he's just nuts about him. This cat > takes long walks with my father, which my dad, being somewhat new to cat [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > long-time dog-person has gotten so attached to a cat. He calls Baxter "a > dog in a cat suit." About the only good thing I can say about my ex-wife is that she introduced me to cats. Prior to meeting Vera, I was strictly a dog person. I didn't dislike cats, I just had never spent any time with them so didn't care for them either way.
Once I started dating her, though, I quickly found out how wonderous kitties are. After getting home from work and taking care of the chores that needed to be done, I'd collapse onto a chair in the living room and her Himalayan female, Cassandra, would curl up on my lap and I'd start petting her. A couple hours later Vera would walk past and say "you're STILL petting that cat?" and sure enough, I'd still be petting. It just felt completely natural.
Since that time I've never been without a cat, and can't imagine life without feline companionship.
Dan
Takayuki - 04 May 2004 02:24 GMT >Rush Limbaugh sounds like a wonderful person? Ewww, you can't mean >that, Tak! :) Heehehe, right on cue. ;) Who can tell? A good friend of mine who always wears long hair and a peace sign around his neck would tell you that I am an arrogant capitalist Nazi nip. Another good friend of mine, a staunch Republican and white supremacist, would tell you that I am some sort of pinko. :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 May 2004 02:50 GMT >>Rush Limbaugh sounds like a wonderful person? Ewww, you can't mean >>that, Tak! :)
> Heehehe, right on cue. ;) Hey! Did you do that on purpose?? So glad not to have disappointed you! :)
> Who can tell? A good friend of mine who > always wears long hair and a peace sign around his neck would tell you > that I am an arrogant capitalist Nazi nip. Another good friend of > mine, a staunch Republican and white supremacist, would tell you that > I am some sort of pinko. :) I don't think my politics are a mystery to anyone within hearing or reading distance of my opinions. :)
I don't know if you're arrogant (you don't seem so), and perhaps you're a capitalist, but I kinda doubt you're anything close to a nazi!
How'd you end up with a white supremacist as a good friend? I can deal with people disagreeing with me, we all have different ideas about what will solve society's problems - but I would find overt racism like that just too offensive to be around. How do you deal with your differences? Do you just not talk about race issues, or do you debate with each other respectfully, or do you have screaming fights about it? Just curious.
Joyce
Takayuki - 04 May 2004 03:27 GMT > >>Rush Limbaugh sounds like a wonderful person? Ewww, you can't mean > >>that, Tak! :) > > > Heehehe, right on cue. ;) > >Hey! Did you do that on purpose?? So glad not to have disappointed you! :) Sorry Joyce, I couldn't help it. :)
>I don't think my politics are a mystery to anyone within hearing or >reading distance of my opinions. :) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Do you just not talk about race issues, or do you debate with each other >respectfully, or do you have screaming fights about it? Just curious. I'm glad that I'm not a Nazi, because I think of being a Nazi as being a kind of perverse opposite of how you're supposed to be. Like normally, we respect court judges for their fairness, and medical doctors for their compassion. But Nazi judges use meathooks and Nazi doctors perform vivisections, so it's like they're from some parallel alien universe. That must be why the "Soup Nazi" from Seinfeld was so funny - because he was the opposite of what a soup cook is supposed to be like. (Actually, I've never seen Seinfeld, but I've read about the show.)
Regarding the white supremacist, I've actually lost touch with him - I'll have to try and look him up! We used to have lunch often, and yes, we discussed race relations a lot, but no, it was never even slightly strained or uncivil. I mean, that's how he defined himself - he was Republican and a white supremacist. You can't avoid it because he can hardly make a sentence without including those two very important facts. :) Still, he was very bright and well read, so could support his views very well.
I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked his brain every day over lunch after that. I'm always eager to learn a new point-of-view. He told me that the Japanese have a good model for a conservative single-race country, and that it would be a good idea for the United States to adopt policies along those lines.
Geez, I can't believe I'm going so off topic talking about my non-existent wishy-washy belief system. :)
Victor Martinez - 04 May 2004 03:41 GMT > I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he > looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your > race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized > right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked I would have turned around and never looked back. I refuse to socialize with people who think their "race" is superior to others. I have zero tolerance for bigotry of any kind.
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Hopitus2 - 04 May 2004 04:18 GMT I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is there such a word or would the correct term be "poise"?) under pressure/stress. Those of us from other origins may be noted for other admirable qualities, but not particularly those.
: > I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he : > looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : with people who think their "race" is superior to others. I have zero : tolerance for bigotry of any kind. Sherry - 04 May 2004 06:10 GMT >I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values >decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is >there such a word or would the correct term be "poise"?) under >pressure/stress. Those of us from other origins may be noted for other >admirable qualities, but not particularly those. I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and poise and courtesy, judging from her posts!
Sherry
Seanette Blaylock - 04 May 2004 06:52 GMT sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty:
>>I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values >>decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and poise and >courtesy, judging from her posts! I've always thought Tak was male. :-)
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Victor Martinez - 04 May 2004 13:50 GMT > I've always thought Tak was male. :-) I recall a picture of Tak and I would definitely say he's a he. :)
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Sherry - 05 May 2004 02:54 GMT >> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) > >I recall a picture of Tak and I would definitely say he's a he. :) OMG. I always thought TAk was a girl. (no offense). OTOH, I thought Hopitus was a dude for a long time, too.
Sherry
Hopitus2 - 05 May 2004 04:02 GMT Please. Think of the Hopitus as an androgynous being w/the disposition of Cap'n Pine Cone. After all, the H. is my *alter* ego.
: >> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) : > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Sherry Tanada - 06 May 2004 19:29 GMT > Please. Think of the Hopitus as an androgynous being w/the disposition of > Cap'n Pine Cone. After all, the H. is my *alter* ego. I bet you throw a great snit fit. I know PC does.
Pam S. who's been the recipient of several PC snit fits lately
Hopitus2 - 07 May 2004 02:09 GMT I seriously doubt if anyone could surpass Cap'n PC esq. in snit fit magnitude.
: > Please. Think of the Hopitus as an androgynous being w/the disposition of : > Cap'n Pine Cone. After all, the H. is my *alter* ego. : : I bet you throw a great snit fit. I know PC does. : : Pam S. who's been the recipient of several PC snit fits lately Takayuki - 05 May 2004 05:34 GMT >>> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) >> >>I recall a picture of Tak and I would definitely say he's a he. :) > >OMG. I always thought TAk was a girl. (no offense). OTOH, I thought Hopitus was >a dude for a long time, too. Hopitus and I are very similar (except I say "dude" less often), which is why you had us all confused. :)
Hopitus2 - 05 May 2004 08:19 GMT (Sniff) Confused? Who's confused? Not me....I know who I am; and as we all know, you can be anyone you wish in cyberspace. I just wish to be several entities.....and they all love cats. One of the entities cries over the sad stories of cats going to RB. This is also the one who sends purrs/meatloaf med's to those needing them, as well as homeless cats everywhere. Another entity enjoys the OT postings and joining threads of interest. This is where one gets to know all the posters better. It is very difficult for this entity to stay out of the politics discussions as we have enough agitation therefrom, but for the most part have succeeded. Yet another entity would be a real pest with advice if allowed free rein. It has to be royally kicked in the *** to remind it that not everyone is sharing its outlook on everything, cat care included, and one can only *share* life experiences with others to possibly enlighten or influence their decisions. Don't all of us have several personas lurking, not on the ng, but within ourselves?
: >>> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) : >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : Hopitus and I are very similar (except I say "dude" less often), which : is why you had us all confused. :) O J - 05 May 2004 11:10 GMT >Don't all of us have several personas lurking, not on the ng, but within >ourselves? Well I for one don't.
Regards and Purrs, O J
O J - 05 May 2004 11:11 GMT >>Don't all of us have several personas lurking, not on the ng, but within >>ourselves? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Regards and Purrs, >O J Yes I do.
Purrs and Regards, O J
Seanette Blaylock - 05 May 2004 09:54 GMT sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty:
>>> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) >>I recall a picture of Tak and I would definitely say he's a he. :) >OMG. I always thought TAk was a girl. (no offense). OTOH, I thought Hopitus was >a dude for a long time, too. I thought Hopitus was male for quite some time myself. :-)
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Seanette Blaylock - 05 May 2004 09:24 GMT Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty:
>> I've always thought Tak was male. :-) >I recall a picture of Tak and I would definitely say he's a he. :) ISTR him being pretty cute, too. Or was that you? :-)
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Takayuki - 04 May 2004 17:27 GMT >>I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values >>decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and poise and >courtesy, judging from her posts! Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very poised or unflappable.
Kreisleriana - 04 May 2004 17:30 GMT >>>I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values >>>decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very >poised or unflappable. Are you stamping your little feet? ;)
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Takayuki - 04 May 2004 18:36 GMT >>Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very >>poised or unflappable. > >Are you stamping your little feet? ;) Definitely! :)
Hopitus2 - 04 May 2004 21:11 GMT Tak, dude (and you *are* a dude, for the uninformed), the Hopitus insists you *must* be the epitome of Japanese social skills (poise, courtesy, and more) to have even interacted with that boorish, arrogant, obnoxious "white supremacist"'s initial remarks to your unintroduced self @ your very first meeting w/him. He, OTOH, verified the complete stereotype of "white supremacists" and would probably be happy and gratified to do so. By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? If so, I bet you'd probably be ROFL @ the translations given of what the "judges" are remarking re the final contestant dishes they're sampling onscreen. I don't speak a word of Japanese except "arigato" and it looks contrived and phony to me, just by their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the cooking (extreme closeups) processes.
: >>Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very : >>poised or unflappable. : > : >Are you stamping your little feet? ;) : : Definitely! :) Takayuki - 05 May 2004 05:26 GMT >By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv >cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the >cooking (extreme closeups) processes. Suz likes that show too! I've also watched several episodes, and I've probably drooled more often than ROFL watching them. Except for that time they made cod spooge ice cream.
Hopitus2 - 05 May 2004 08:26 GMT When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic Festival a few miles to the south. Gilroy is a tiny town around which are fields and fields of garlic growing; you can smell it halfway up to San Jose. They have more foods than you can imagine with garlic as an ingredient. There I ate my first (and last) garlic ice cream. Probably right up there with your cod ice cream for yum-yum factor. Better than the food, I thought, were the hot-air balloon rides we had. Except big belching flames over your head is quite unnerving, even scarier than being up off the ground, AFAIK.
: >By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv : >cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : probably drooled more often than ROFL watching them. Except for that : time they made cod spooge ice cream. jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 May 2004 09:39 GMT > When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic > Festival a few miles to the south. Gilroy is a tiny town around which are > fields and fields of garlic growing; you can smell it halfway up to San > Jose. They have more foods than you can imagine with garlic as an > ingredient. There I ate my first (and last) garlic ice cream. I've never been to the garlic festival. Fighting my way through a huge crowd of people, all trying to buy the same overpriced novelty items, just isn't my idea of a fun day. However, garlic is one of my favorite flavors on earth (but not for ice cream!).
> Better than the food, I thought, were the hot-air balloon rides we had. > Except big belching flames over your head is quite unnerving, even scarier > than being up off the ground, AFAIK. The combination sounds pretty unsettling to me!
Joyce
Seanette Blaylock - 05 May 2004 09:53 GMT "Hopitus2" <Hopitus2@att.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe KittyLONG:
>When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic >Festival a few miles to the south. Gilroy is a tiny town around which are >fields and fields of garlic growing; you can smell it halfway up to San >Jose. They have more foods than you can imagine with garlic as an >ingredient. There I ate my first (and last) garlic ice cream. Probably right >up there with your cod ice cream for yum-yum factor. DMIL and I have agreed that we'll team up to try that if we ever make it to the Garlic Festival [it's within the "possible" range, drive-time-wise, and I *love* garlic].
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Cathi - 05 May 2004 18:45 GMT >"Hopitus2" <Hopitus2@att.net> had some very interesting things to say >about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe KittyLONG: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>ingredient. There I ate my first (and last) garlic ice cream. Probably right >>up there with your cod ice cream for yum-yum factor. Garlic (and honey) ice cream? Over here please! There's a garlic festival on the Isle of Wight (off the South Coast of England) and, as Richard's sister lives on the island, we've been over several times at festival time. Garlic ice cream is *fab*. Also had the stuff in the Stinking Rose restaurant in San Fran last year. Yum. I need never fear vampires, that's for certain.
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Sherry - 05 May 2004 18:21 GMT >When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic >Festival A garlic festival? Never knew that existed. Do they have a garlic queen? Oklahoma has: the Cheese Festival, the Watermelon Festival, the Kolache Festival, the Peanut Festival, the Strawberry Festival and the Peach Festival. The town 10 miles down the road doesn't produce anything worthy of a festival, so they have the Latisef, which is festival spelled backwards, and is just an excuse to eat, visit with friends and have a good time.
Sherry
Sherry - 05 May 2004 18:25 GMT BTW. Driving through Conway, Arkansas, we ran across the "Toad Squat Festival." Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat Festival.
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 05 May 2004 18:36 GMT >BTW. Driving through Conway, Arkansas, we ran across the "Toad Squat Festival." >Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat >Festival. > >Sherry WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM????
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Sherry - 05 May 2004 20:08 GMT >>BTW. Driving through Conway, Arkansas, we ran across the "Toad Squat >Festival." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Theresa I know, I know. The man has no sense of adventure. :-)
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 05 May 2004 20:32 GMT >>>BTW. Driving through Conway, Arkansas, we ran across the "Toad Squat >>Festival." [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Sherry I love it when people have festivals and events that are original and just plain silly. Like the Redneck Olympics in Georgia, the jumping-frog celebration, and the Doo-Dah Parade in California. We have a brand new one, here in NYC-- The Idiotarod Shopping Cart Races.;)
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Tanada - 06 May 2004 19:35 GMT >>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat >>>Festival. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I know, I know. The man has no sense of adventure. :-) Rob's dad was that way. They were driving from Florida to Idaho between assignments (Dad was going to go to Vietnam for the second time) and passed near the Grand Canyon. The whole family begged and pleaded, but Dad refused to make the detour. This year we're taking that detour.
Pam S.
Kreisleriana - 06 May 2004 20:59 GMT >>>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat >>>>Festival. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Pam S. Hey, the Grand Canyon is one thing, but a "TOAD SQUAT FESTIVAL"? Come on. ;)
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Sherry - 07 May 2004 00:06 GMT >Hey, the Grand Canyon is one thing, but a "TOAD SQUAT FESTIVAL"? Come >on. ;) > >Theresa Hey, I'm not telling the Toad Squat Queen you said that. The TS Festival is probably the social event of the year for that town. :-)
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 07 May 2004 01:12 GMT >>Hey, the Grand Canyon is one thing, but a "TOAD SQUAT FESTIVAL"? Come >>on. ;) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Sherry Exactly. You can see an old Grand Canyon any day. How often can you see a TSF?
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John F. Eldredge - 06 May 2004 21:40 GMT >>>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad >>>>Squat Festival. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >and pleaded, but Dad refused to make the detour. This year we're >taking that detour. When I was ten, my family took a long vacation trip, from Nashville, TN to Los Angeles, down into Mexico, to Texas, and back to Nashville. My father originally wanted to skip seeing the Grand Canyon, saying it was just a "big ditch", but my mother talked him into it. Afterwards, he referred to the Grand Canyon as an "impressive big ditch", and said that he was glad to have seen it.
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Hopitus2 - 07 May 2004 02:12 GMT I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, especially those big nervy ones that poison the dogs w/some kind of paralyzing venom. Bufus I think they're called.
: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] : =8QDP : -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Sherry - 07 May 2004 03:27 GMT >I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat >Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, >especially those big nervy ones that poison the dogs w/some kind of >paralyzing venom. Bufus I think they're called. Oh, darn. I must make a correction. I became curious about the Toad Squat Festival, and tried to find it on Google. Couldn't find it. Mentioned it to DH, who said, "No, it wasn't "Toad Squat." It was "The Toad Suck Festival" in Conway, ARK. My apologies to the organizers of the Toad Suck Festival, the reigning Toad Suck Queen, and any rpca members who may or may not have been inconvenienced by this regrettable error.
Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 07 May 2004 03:32 GMT >> I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat >> Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sherry ROFL!!!!!
Kreisleriana - 07 May 2004 04:07 GMT >>I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat >>Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Sherry I'm disappointed, but Toad Suck sounds um . . . intriguing. :p
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Hopitus2 - 07 May 2004 06:21 GMT That sounds even worse. I don't even want to imagine........
: >>I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat : >>Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] : claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. : (Aldous Huxley) jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 May 2004 09:46 GMT Sherry wrote:
> DH, who said, "No, it wasn't "Toad Squat." It was "The Toad Suck > Festival" in Conway, ARK. That's even more bizarre!!
Looking forward to the Christopher Guest movie about it. :)
Joyce
badwilson - 08 May 2004 06:28 GMT > Sherry wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Joyce Isn't that where they suck or lick the backs of certain toads in order to get high? -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
O J - 08 May 2004 09:31 GMT On Sat, 8 May, Britta wrote:
>Isn't that where they suck or lick the backs of certain toads in order to >get high?
>Britta This is apparently one of Arkansas premier festivals. The explanation for the name is as follows from http://www.judygerber.com/toad_suck.htm:
Regards, O J
---------------------<quoted text follows>---------------------- Long ago, steamboats traveled the Arkansas River when the water was at the right depth. When it wasn't, the captains and their crew tied up to wait where the Toad Suck Lock and Dam now spans the river.
While they waited, they refreshed themselves at the local tavern there, to the dismay of the folks living nearby, who said: "They suck on the bottle 'til they swell up like toads." Hence, the name Toad Suck. The tavern is long gone, but the legend and fun live on at Toad Suck Daze.
Steve Touchstone - 08 May 2004 16:43 GMT >On Sat, 8 May, Britta wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Regards, >O J Guess the truth behind the name doesn't live up to some of the wilder guesses.
One thing though, take the ":" off the end of the link if you decide to look at the web site.
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Annie Wxill - 07 May 2004 15:05 GMT ...> My apologies to the organizers of the Toad Suck Festival, the reigning Toad
> Suck Queen, and any rpca members who may or may not have been inconvenienced by > this regrettable error. > > Sherry Sheesh! If I were partaking of any liquid substances, you'd owe me a keyboard. Thanks for the laugh. I'll be chuckling about this all day. Annie
Yowie - 09 May 2004 00:13 GMT > >I have serious doubts over whether I would like to experience a "Toad Squat > >Festival", wherever it is. If there are toads involved, I don't like them, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Suck Queen, and any rpca members who may or may not have been inconvenienced by > this regrettable error. This post will have to be included in the FAQ. I don't know where or in what category, but its just the sort of post (in the middle of a hot-potato thread at that) that epitomises the character of this NG.
Yowie
Yowie - 09 May 2004 00:10 GMT > >>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat > >>>Festival. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > passed near the Grand Canyon. The whole family begged and pleaded, but > Dad refused to make the detour. This year we're taking that detour. Cripes, thats so *not* our family! We've been known to hop in the car, and then just drive, and just turning where the family consensus told us to go! It often means you end up in a dead end country lane, but sometimes you discover themost interesting and totally obscure places that you can drop in and say G'Day (they'll remember you, since they never get anyone but locals come through) when you are actually on your way to *somewhere*.
Even these days, I love just going for a drive, especially if its a damp and dreary day and exploring all the roads I possibly can. In fact, youcan almost hear Joel groan when I say cheerily (as I'm turning into it) "I wonder where that road goes?".
Yowie
Jo Firey - 09 May 2004 00:49 GMT > > >>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat > > >>>Festival. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Yowie When my parents were newlyweds and couldn't afford much else, they would go for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. That of course meant finding a road you had never taken before and seeing where it went. I still do it if I really need a break.
Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 09 May 2004 01:11 GMT > When my parents were newlyweds and couldn't afford much else, they > would go for drives in the country. The whole point of which was > to get lost. That of course meant finding a road you had never > taken before and seeing where it went. I still do it if I really > need a break. I used to do this on my bicycle - it was especially fun when I was a child, because there were so many places at that time that I had never seen, and not being a driver myself, I had little sense of the layout of the larger area I lived in. I grew up in a small town, surrounded by mill towns. Sounds unexciting for biking, but beyond the mill towns were farmlands, which were really fun to bike in.
I continued to do this as a teenager and would sometimes cover 50 or more miles in a day of riding. It's fun to get lost by bike! I realized at some point that "all roads lead to somewhere", and if I kept going, I'd eventually find myself somewhere familiar. It's not like wandering in the forest or the desert.
I stopped doing that once I got older, though, because it's harder to really find unknown territory when you know an area pretty well by car. And now that I live in a very hilly area, I don't even enjoy bicycling. (A likely excuse. In reality, I'm just lazy! :))
Joyce
Victor Martinez - 09 May 2004 03:44 GMT > for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. That > of course meant finding a road you had never taken before and seeing where > it went. I still do it if I really need a break. Tom *loves* new roads, particularly if they're little back roads. He has a large atlas of Texas where he highlights every road he's been on. It's quite impressive!
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Jo Firey - 09 May 2004 05:28 GMT > > for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. That > > of course meant finding a road you had never taken before and seeing where [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a large atlas of Texas where he highlights every road he's been on. It's > quite impressive! Sounds like he would have enjoyed our afternoon jaunt last Monday. We were in Hendersonville, NC. Drove to Chimney Rock and Lake Lure. Fine so far, a tourist area and well marked. Then drove to the south end of the lake and didn't want to back track so headed up the east side of the lake. Now North Carolina isn't big on road signs or highway numbers. Kind of figure if you got there you oughta know where you are. We didn't have a map. But it was a beautiful day for a drive and the rental car handled nicely. Besides if you make enough left turns you have to eventually get back if not to where you started, to some point along your way.
Don't know what bothered Charlie more, that I didn't know where I was going, or that I ended up where I wanted to anyway.
Jo
Yowie - 11 May 2004 01:58 GMT > > > for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. > That [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Don't know what bothered Charlie more, that I didn't know where I was going, > or that I ended up where I wanted to anyway. I usually have a good sense of direction. One day, I realised exactly what it is that gives me my sense of direction - its the sun! I wa sdriving home from a friend's plac ein Sydney whom I hadn't visited before. Sydney is a horribe city to drive in, as the streets were never designed, they just sort of happened, so they are all higgidly piggledy with lots of one way only and no right turns, and very agressive traffic, so you really do have to kno where you are going or the roads could lead you along way out of your way. So I'm driving home from my friend's place and realise that I'm not on any road that I recognise, certainly not the road that I used to get there. But its early, I have the day to myself, and Sydney being Sydney, I know I have to drive East and South to get home (eventually I'll bump into a road I know, or see a sign to a suburb that I know my way home from). So I'm toodling along, quite confident that I'm indeed heading east and/or south (depending on the turns I take) when I see a sign fo a northern suburb and suddenly realise that I actually got up quite late, and then we had lunch and therefore its not morning, its afternoon! And that means the shadows are ont he wrong side of the street, and for the last *hour* I"d been travelling north and west. ACK! So I stopped into the local petrol station, who didn't have a *clue* how to get to Wollongong, and I didn't have the money to buy the street map atlas they wanted to sell me, so I just had to turn around and hope for the best. As it was, within a few minutes I got to an intersection that, from this side of the road, had signs to "the South coast" and got myself pointed in the right direction (as it was, it turne dout to be an express lane, and I was only a few minutes off the alternative way home, instead of having to double back for another hour), but that taught me a valuable lesson about where my directional sense comes from.
Yowie
polonca12000 - 11 May 2004 20:45 GMT I'm so glad you got back home safely, Vicky. Best wishes to you, Cary and Joel,
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> and hope for the best. As it was, within a few minutes I got to an > intersection that, from this side of the road, had signs to "the South [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yowie Yowie - 11 May 2004 01:21 GMT > > for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. That > > of course meant finding a road you had never taken before and seeing where [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a large atlas of Texas where he highlights every road he's been on. It's > quite impressive! Hey! Now thats an idea!
I wonder where I can get a map for my local area that is exhaustive?
I live in a "new" suburb, that is, most of this burb wans't here 5 years ago. Consequently there are new bits added all the time, so new roads to explore. However, there's this one house thats been visible from my place ever since we moved in, and it looks like it has a copper dome with a gargoyle on top. I don'thave a pair of binoculars so can't tell from here, and I've set out many a time to actually drive past and get a better look. But for the life of me I can't find the road that its on, and since its a new 'burb, most of the usual street maps don't actually have this 'burn printed in them. Its very frustrating (but does make interesting drives, especially now with Cary, because we are never far from home!)
Yowie
Jo Firey - 11 May 2004 02:39 GMT > > > for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. > That [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Yowie Not sure what your equivalent would be, but our Chamber of Commerce will have the most current local maps available. Usually the ones building and selling the new homes belong and help cover the cost. If that doesn't work, call up the local fire or police and ask where you can get a current map.
I put 500 miles on my bicycle one summer, and marked off all the roads I'd been on with a highlight pen.
Jo
Helen Wheels - 11 May 2004 10:21 GMT >>>for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie Try http://www.whereis.com.au Can't find any information there on how often it's updated, but it seems pretty current for the new streets around where I live. If someone built a copper dome near my place I'd want a close up look too. I was most disappointed when our council recently knocked back an application to build a Buddhist temple because it didn't think the tall pointy roofs would "fit in". Helen Wheels
Ginger-lyn Summer - 09 May 2004 17:39 GMT >When my parents were newlyweds and couldn't afford much else, they would go >for drives in the country. The whole point of which was to get lost. That >of course meant finding a road you had never taken before and seeing where >it went. I still do it if I really need a break. > >Jo Oh, my first husband and I used to do this, and it was *so* much fun. Without a car or anyone good enough to drive one (ex-DH was a professional delivery/cab driver), I can't go "get lost" in the country anymore. I sure do miss it!
Ginger-lyn who once insisted ex-DH have a new experience and pet a cow along the roadside on on of those trips ;-)
Tanada - 09 May 2004 00:51 GMT > Cripes, thats so *not* our family! We've been known to hop in the car, and > then just drive, and just turning where the family consensus told us to go! > It often means you end up in a dead end country lane, but sometimes you > discover themost interesting and totally obscure places that you can drop in > and say G'Day (they'll remember you, since they never get anyone but locals > come through) when you are actually on your way to *somewhere*. That's the way my family was, and the way I still am to some extent. Rob is even more adventurous than I am and the cry of "Road Trip" rouses cries of excitement and pleas for special friends to go with us. As I once told the kids while pretending to, "I can get lost anywhere." I consider road trips one of the perks of being a military family.
Pam S. who'd love to be able to take more road trips
Steve Touchstone - 09 May 2004 01:00 GMT >Cripes, thats so *not* our family! We've been known to hop in the car, and >then just drive, and just turning where the family consensus told us to go! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Yowie Sounds like the type of camping trips I used to take while on leave from the Army. Just load up the 4 wheel drive, head for a National Forest, and follow the dirt roads, just to see how far I could go without hitting pavement. Helped that I have two gas tanks, so that I could switch to the second when the first ran out and be pretty sure I could find my way out.
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Yoj - 09 May 2004 02:17 GMT > > >>>Since DH would not stop, I"ll never know what one does at a Toad Squat > > >>>Festival. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Yowie You would have gotten along well with my late husband. He was always wanting to go for a ride. Sometimes we enjoyed it, but often he would keep driving long after the rest of us were sick of riding in the car.
Joy
KLC - 09 May 2004 19:31 GMT Alright, Yowie,
when I come to Australia, you can drive me down all sorts of roads and help me explore the place, eh?
KLC ---------------
> Cripes, thats so *not* our family! We've been known to hop in the car, and > then just drive, and just turning where the family consensus told us to go! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie Kreisleriana - 09 May 2004 19:42 GMT >Alright, Yowie, > >when I come to Australia, you can drive me down all sorts of roads and >help me explore the place, eh? > >KLC Just don't forget, stay to the left.
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Yowie - 11 May 2004 03:12 GMT > Alright, Yowie, > > when I come to Australia, you can drive me down all sorts of roads and > help me explore the place, eh? Sounds good! And I'll have a decent car if you come too, unlike when Dave S came and my car broke down that day so we couldn't go anywhere!
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KLC - 11 May 2004 15:28 GMT >>Alright, Yowie, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yowie Poor Dave, trapped in a house with Fluffy & Shmogg! Did they terrorize him utterly? Did he consume all your groceries?
Casual driving is the best. Our Yukon (RB) used to love going for a drive, sniffing for a whiff of elk out the window... And DH & I began dating by going for a drive, and then went for a very long drive North for our 'honeymoon.' Next year we want to drive across Canada (which is a very long ramble indeed), to take our Aussie friend to see the sights. I want to leave lots of room in the holiday for unscheduled detours.
And when our Aussie friend goes home to QL, then I'll have to come and visit... and Yowie will take me drivin'
KLC
Kreisleriana - 05 May 2004 18:36 GMT >>When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic >>Festival [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Sherry Northern California has festivals up the wazoo. Castroville has an Artichoke Festival-- it's actually coming up in a week or two. Marilyn Monroe was the first Artichoke Queen. No kidding. ;)
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Hopitus2 - 05 May 2004 20:32 GMT Yes, there *was* a Garlic Queen, but when she came through the crowd I was just staggering off the platform from the balloon ride and inspecting my hair to make sure it was still all there (it was, but smelly) re the belching overhead flames that make the balloon go up.
: >>When we lived near Silicon Valley, CA., we went once to that Gilroy Garlic : >>Festival [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] : claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. : (Aldous Huxley) Kreisleriana - 05 May 2004 20:34 GMT >Yes, there *was* a Garlic Queen, but when she came through the crowd I was >just staggering off the platform from the balloon ride and inspecting my >hair to make sure it was still all there (it was, but smelly) re the >belching overhead flames that make the balloon go up. As long as it wasn't belching garlic. . . ;)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 May 2004 21:12 GMT > A garlic festival? Never knew that existed. Do they have a garlic queen? > Oklahoma has: the Cheese Festival, the Watermelon Festival, the Kolache > Festival, the Peanut Festival, the Strawberry Festival and the Peach > Festival. Goodness, does each of these have a queen?
Joyce - not sure she'd want to be the "cheese queen" :)
Kreisleriana - 05 May 2004 21:58 GMT > > A garlic festival? Never knew that existed. Do they have a garlic queen? > > Oklahoma has: the Cheese Festival, the Watermelon Festival, the Kolache [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Joyce - not sure she'd want to be the "cheese queen" :) We have the Coney Island Mermaid Parade in June, and we have a Queen. Yes, A Queen. Certainly do have a Queen. I think it can be either gender.
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Sherry - 05 May 2004 23:42 GMT >Goodness, does each of these have a queen? > >Joyce - not sure she'd want to be the "cheese queen" :) Oh, but of course. Every festival has to have a queen. Of course, I think the real incentive to enter the race for Cheese Queen isn't the title, but all the free stuff that they get. You think Cheese Queen is bad, what about the poor Toad Squat Queen?
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 06 May 2004 00:33 GMT >>Goodness, does each of these have a queen? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Sherry Hey, I'm practicing my smile and wave. ;)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 06 May 2004 09:14 GMT > You think Cheese Queen is bad, what about the poor Toad Squat Queen? Oh dear, I never thought of that. Of course, you never did get to see just what perks went along with that abysmal title! Maybe next year! :)
Joyce
SUQKRT - 08 May 2004 18:50 GMT >Suz likes that show too! I've also watched several episodes, and I've >probably drooled more often than ROFL watching them. Except for that >time they made cod spooge ice cream. Iron Chef ice cream is a frightening thing. I'm well aware that its just a show not a guide to the Japanese. Its unique which is very rare in todays tv. Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Hopitus2 - 08 May 2004 20:30 GMT Heh. What a cute little cat you made.
: >Suz likes that show too! I've also watched several episodes, and I've : >probably drooled more often than ROFL watching them. Except for that [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : (=':'=) : (")_(") Yowie - 08 May 2004 03:11 GMT "Hopitus2" <Hopitus2@att.net> wrote in message
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> By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv > cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the > cooking (extreme closeups) processes. The reason why its so funny is *because* its so contrived and phony.
Then again, I love really bad horror movies - I guess schlocky phony-ness appeals to me (but I also like cooking shows and what the Iron Chefs creat in an hour *astounds* me)
Yowie
Karen Chuplis - 09 May 2004 00:14 GMT > "Hopitus2" <Hopitus2@att.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yowie OK, but am I wierd because it almost always makes me SOOOOOOO hungry. No matter what they make it looks yummy.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 May 2004 03:22 GMT >> I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and >> poise and courtesy, judging from her posts! > > Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very > poised or unflappable. Or a "her" - you forgot to mention that stereotype. :)
(Just kidding - I am not criticizing the person who referred to Tak as a "her".)
Joyce
Sherry - 05 May 2004 06:31 GMT >Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! :) Besides, I don't think I'm very >poised or unflappable. Oh, come on. You're always so nice. You and Marina and Polonca..well, lots more I won't try to name everyone. You all always make me feel all convicted for being so impetuous and hot-headed. I work on it, though, and try to read a post twice before I send it.
Sherry
Tanada - 06 May 2004 19:39 GMT > Oh, come on. You're always so nice. You and Marina and Polonca..well, lots more > I won't try to name everyone. You all always make me feel all convicted for > being so impetuous and hot-headed. I work on it, though, and try to read a post > twice before I send it. You mean I'm not the only one who deletes a lot of posts before I can send them and still sticks her paw in her mouth on occasion? WOW!! I don't feel so alone any more.
Pam S. checking this post out before sending
Sherry - 07 May 2004 00:28 GMT >You mean I'm not the only one who deletes a lot of posts before I can >send them and still sticks her paw in her mouth on occasion? WOW!! I >don't feel so alone any more. > >Pam S. checking this post out before sending Are you kidding? Sometimes I compose the post, then e-mail it to myself with the intention of reading/sending it later. Most of those I don't send. I've suffered Poster's Remorse way too many times. Especially if I write something very late at night. Sherry
Yowie - 08 May 2004 03:31 GMT > > Oh, come on. You're always so nice. You and Marina and Polonca..well, lots more > > I won't try to name everyone. You all always make me feel all convicted for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > send them and still sticks her paw in her mouth on occasion? WOW!! I > don't feel so alone any more. You have *no idea* how many flames reside in my draft folder for a little while before getting deleted. It feels good to get the steam out, but as I do alot of work off-line I have enough time between writing and actually uploading to delete most. Unfortunatley I occasionally reply whilest still on-line and some do sneak out, But generally not on this group, thank the Porcelain Three Three.
Yowie
Seanette Blaylock - 04 May 2004 04:18 GMT Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty:
>I would have turned around and never looked back. I refuse to socialize >with people who think their "race" is superior to others. I have zero >tolerance for bigotry of any kind. Funny, I don't recall you saying anything about Joyce's accusing me of racism because I'm a Republican [which is why I was out of this group for several months. I do NOT enjoy being the victim of politically correct bigotry in a supposed group of friends, especially when it's considered socially acceptable to indulge in such knee-jerk stereotyping].
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Takayuki - 04 May 2004 04:26 GMT >Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to >say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >considered socially acceptable to indulge in such knee-jerk >stereotyping]. Oh yes, I think it's important to remember that the current Republican party was founded on an abolitionist platform. Certainly you would be right in saying that neither of the current major parties are based on racism.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 May 2004 07:39 GMT > Funny, I don't recall you saying anything about Joyce's accusing me of > racism because I'm a Republican [which is why I was out of this group > for several months. Seanette,
I remember that you thought I wanted you out of this newsgroup, and I'm sorry you left the group for so long, believing that I was trying to kick you out. I would never suggest such a thing. I have no problem with people of any political beliefs participating in this newsgroup. I do have strong opinions, but I don't have any more right to be here than anyone else.
I don't like what the Republican party has come to stand for in this country (their origins notwithstanding), and I do believe that their policies are bad for people who are not white. There's a reason why the vast majority of African-Americans and Latinos (Miami excepted :)) vote Democratic!
I'll do everything I can - physically, mentally, legally - to keep them out of political office. But as far as this newsgroup is concerned, the only people I'd like to throw out are the trolls. Which you certainly aren't!
Joyce
Seanette Blaylock - 04 May 2004 08:05 GMT jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net had some very interesting things to say about me and Seanette:
>I don't like what the Republican party has come to stand for in this >country And I find a lot of what Democrats push misguided at best. Be that as it may, this is not an even remotely appropriate forum for political debate. Think about that the next time you indulge in your knee-jerk bigotry ["anyone who disagrees with me is scum and fair game for any insults I want to throw around"]. Also think about the fact that even us horrid conservatives are human beings WITH hearts, and that 99% of conservatives I've ever dealt with are disgusted by bigotry of any variety, just as you claim to be while indulging in same.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 May 2004 03:16 GMT > And I find a lot of what Democrats push misguided at best. Be that as > it may, this is not an even remotely appropriate forum for political > debate. Think about that the next time you indulge in your knee-jerk > bigotry ["anyone who disagrees with me is scum and fair game for any > insults I want to throw around"]. I don't know what "bigotry" you're talking about. I'm trying to be conciliatory here, and you're not really helping. Why are you so angry at me? I don't believe I ever directed a nasty comment at you. All my political ire has gone toward elected (or non-elected) officials.
Joyce
Seanette Blaylock - 05 May 2004 09:59 GMT jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net had some very interesting things to say about Re: me and Seanette:
> > And I find a lot of what Democrats push misguided at best. Be that as > > it may, this is not an even remotely appropriate forum for political [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >at me? I don't believe I ever directed a nasty comment at you. All my >political ire has gone toward elected (or non-elected) officials. Think about the fact that you insulted an entire group, of which several people in this forum are members, by hurling an insult [namely, the accusation of racism] and accusing that entire group of behavior many of them find disgusting, for the sole "crime" of not sharing your politics. That hurt a LOT, especially when it was in a newsgroup I used to feel safe in [thanks for correcting that misconception, BTW].
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Victor Martinez - 04 May 2004 13:59 GMT > Funny, I don't recall you saying anything about Joyce's accusing me of > racism because I'm a Republican [which is why I was out of this group I don't think Joyce did what you're saying she did. Wasn't it Bridget who made the comment that pissed you off?
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Seanette Blaylock - 05 May 2004 09:24 GMT Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Tee hee...My Honey and Joe Kitty:
>> Funny, I don't recall you saying anything about Joyce's accusing me of >> racism because I'm a Republican [which is why I was out of this group >I don't think Joyce did what you're saying she did. Wasn't it Bridget >who made the comment that pissed you off? Believe me, something that hurt that much, I don't forg
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