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Sherry - 30 Apr 2004 14:00 GMT
The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now officially
closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this morning and found a huge
salamander  in my shoe. Threw a towel over him and tossed it outside, shoe and
all. He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
litter stuck to him.
They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.

Sherry
TBird - 30 Apr 2004 14:16 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now officially
> closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this morning and found a huge
> salamander  in my shoe. Threw a towel over him and tossed it outside, shoe and
> all. He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
> litter stuck to him.
> They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.

How about hanging a bell from the door knob for them to whap at?

TBird <---- trying to be helpful

> Sherry
Sherry - 30 Apr 2004 14:35 GMT
>How about hanging a bell from the door knob for them to whap at?
>
>TBird <---- trying to be helpful

You know, cats are pretty smart. With the right training, I just bet a cat
could learn that.

Sherry
Kreisleriana - 30 Apr 2004 15:42 GMT
>>How about hanging a bell from the door knob for them to whap at?
>>
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>
>Sherry

Yes, but you can also be sure she'd take about a million whaps at it
just for fun. ;)

That's if she doesn't completely mess with your brain, and just ignore
it. ;)

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TBird - 30 Apr 2004 15:43 GMT
> >How about hanging a bell from the door knob for them to whap at?
> >
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>
> Sherry

I bet they could, but they'd need your help.  I was thinking about the
potential for it to become a toy.  I think for the first week or so, when
they ring it, they must be inside for 15 minutes minimum.  That way they
understand what the bell is for, and that it's not just a cool toy.

TBird <----- that's the best thinking I could do with a headache and before
the salamader in the shoe image threw me into fits of giggles
Sherry - 30 Apr 2004 15:47 GMT
>I bet they could, but they'd need your help.  I was thinking about the
>potential for it to become a toy.  I think for the first week or so, when
>they ring it, they must be inside for 15 minutes minimum.  That way they
>understand what the bell is for, and that it's not just a cool toy.

You know, it's not that I mind them playing the door game. I don't work anymore
and don't have much else to do these days besides letting cats in & out :-)
But dang that Yoda. He's got that thing going where he seems to want his front
half out, and his back half in, while he sniffs forever and decides what he
wants to do while I stand there and hold the door!!

Sherry
John F. Eldredge - 30 Apr 2004 17:09 GMT
>>I bet they could, but they'd need your help.  I was thinking about
>>the potential for it to become a toy.  I think for the first week
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Sherry

Obviously, what you have is a Schroedinger's cat.  He wants to be
both inside and outside until he makes up his mind which he prefers.
I have had several cats like that in the past.

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Sherry - 30 Apr 2004 18:30 GMT
>Obviously, what you have is a Schroedinger's cat.  He wants to be
>both inside and outside until he makes up his mind which he prefers.
>I have had several cats like that in the past.

LOL! I like that! What *really* beats all is if I give Yoda a push with my
foot, he *glares* at me with an indignant "MRROOOWF!"

Sherry
Marina - 01 May 2004 05:10 GMT
> Obviously, what you have is a Schroedinger's cat.  He wants to be
> both inside and outside until he makes up his mind which he prefers.
> I have had several cats like that in the past.

I think every cat I have ever met has been like that. Hence "Hamlet's Cat's
Soliloquy" by William Shakespeare's cat (as written down by Henry Beard):

To go outside and there perchance to stay
Or to remain within: that is the question
Whether 'tis better for a cat to suffer
The cuffs and buffets of inclement weather
That Nature rains on those that roam abroad,
Or take a nap upon a scrap of carpet...

And it goes on and on and on... Remember next time Yoda stands halfway, he
is pondering the deepest questions of a cat's life. ;o)

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TBird - 30 Apr 2004 18:31 GMT
> >I bet they could, but they'd need your help.  I was thinking about the
> >potential for it to become a toy.  I think for the first week or so, when
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>
> Sherry

GOOD kitty slave!

TBird <---- giggling
m. L. Briggs - 30 Apr 2004 19:00 GMT
>>I bet they could, but they'd need your help.  I was thinking about the
>>potential for it to become a toy.  I think for the first week or so, when
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Sherry

That is why I stand there saying   "IN  or OUT?  Make Up Your Mind!"
Seanette Blaylock - 01 May 2004 21:35 GMT
m. L. Briggs <mlbriggs@nospam.net> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: The Door Is Closed:

>>You know, it's not that I mind them playing the door game. I don't work anymore
>>and don't have much else to do these days besides letting cats in & out :-)
>>But dang that Yoda. He's got that thing going where he seems to want his front
>>half out, and his back half in, while he sniffs forever and decides what he
>>wants to do while I stand there and hold the door!!
>That is why I stand there saying   "IN  or OUT?  Make Up Your Mind!"

Have you been eavesdropping on "conversations" with Felix? :-)

Cats give a whole new meaning to the phrase "fuzzy logic".

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Apr 2004 21:00 GMT
> But dang that Yoda. He's got that thing going where he seems to want
> his front half out, and his back half in, while he sniffs forever and
> decides what he wants to do while I stand there and hold the door!!

He read that memo that's gone around the net for the past several years
that encourages cats to "stand halfway in and halfway out an open door,
and think about several things."

Joyce
O J - 01 May 2004 03:08 GMT
>You know, it's not that I mind them playing the door game. I don't work anymore
>and don't have much else to do these days besides letting cats in & out :-)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Sherry

    Having had only indoor cats for fifteen years now, I'd forgotten
just how much my indoor/outdoor cats liked to play that game.  My Sasa
used to love to stand in the doorway like that.  Heaven forbid I
should get tired of the game and just close the door and walk away.
That pitiful ploy was greeted with moww's, woww's, yoww's, and
meeout's.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Karen Chuplis - 01 May 2004 03:19 GMT
>> You know, it's not that I mind them playing the door game. I don't work
>> anymore
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> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

Me too. I can't remember how many times growing up, I or another member of
the family would be standing at the back screen door saying, "In or OUT but
you can't just stand there!"

Of course, they could.

Karen
Marina - 01 May 2004 05:12 GMT
> Me too. I can't remember how many times growing up, I or another member of
> the family would be standing at the back screen door saying, "In or OUT but
> you can't just stand there!"
>
> Of course, they could.

Exactly what happened at our house, and we said the exact same thing (except
in Swedish).

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Tanada - 02 May 2004 02:39 GMT
> You know, it's not that I mind them playing the door game. I don't work anymore
> and don't have much else to do these days besides letting cats in & out :-)
> But dang that Yoda. He's got that thing going where he seems to want his front
> half out, and his back half in, while he sniffs forever and decides what he
> wants to do while I stand there and hold the door!!

We call that "sending the decision to a committee."  Rob says that the
reason cats can't make up their minds about anything except food is that
they are operated by a committee and the only thing a committee can
agree on is that they need to eat or adjourn (sleep).

Pam S.
Marina - 01 May 2004 04:51 GMT
> You know, cats are pretty smart. With the right training, I just bet a cat
> could learn that.

My "little sister" Thompson used to bang the letter flap in the door to get
our attention. I'm sure your cats would learn to ring a bell if you hung it
low enough for them to reach it easily.

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David Stevenson - 12 May 2004 19:25 GMT
>> You know, cats are pretty smart. With the right training, I just bet a cat
>> could learn that.
>
>My "little sister" Thompson used to bang the letter flap in the door to get
>our attention. I'm sure your cats would learn to ring a bell if you hung it
>low enough for them to reach it easily.

  Many years ago a friend of mine had a cat.  When he was out he would
bang the letter box to be let in.

  If that did not work he would bang the letter boxes up and down the
row of dwellings until someone let him in.

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dsh-diva - 03 May 2004 20:24 GMT
>> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now
>officially
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
>> Sherry

Oh, the cats, I thought you meant the salamanders could learn to whap
the bell!  :) Jennie
lewe - 30 Apr 2004 17:26 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now officially
> closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this morning and found a huge
> salamander  in my shoe. Threw a towel over him and tossed it outside, shoe and
> all. He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
> litter stuck to him.
> They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.

how about a little flap door? that should hold unwanted sneakers out ... or
was that not the shoe didn't want in the house? :)

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Sherry - 30 Apr 2004 18:36 GMT
>how about a little flap door? that should hold unwanted sneakers out ... or
>was that not the shoe didn't want in the house? :)
>
>:: lewe

Darn DH doesn't want to cut a hole in the door.  Do they leak cold air very
much in the winter? Somebody give me some testimonials that will convince him.
The cats don't bring critters in, maybe twice, mostly they
crawl/slither/scamper  in on their own because I have propped the door open. A
cat flap is what we need for sure.

Sherry
Steve Touchstone - 30 Apr 2004 22:40 GMT
>>how about a little flap door? that should hold unwanted sneakers out ... or
>>was that not the shoe didn't want in the house? :)
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Sherry

Guess it's all depends on the cat. I have one in my screen door, but
only let Sammy and LB when I'm gong to be outside to supervise. I
sometimes go out, shutting the screen door behind me, sit in the chair
and watch to see how long it will be before they follow through the
pet door. They usually sit there in the door and call to me to come
perform my doorman duties, but will eventually come out. Course, if
something startles them and they want back inside, they don't even
hesitate popping through the door. So, they know how it's supposed to
work, but think the hoomin should open the door for them. Rocky never
uses the flap - he always has to be convince to come inside, though
he's usually happy to go out.
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O J - 01 May 2004 03:19 GMT
>Darn DH doesn't want to cut a hole in the door.  Do they leak cold air very
>much in the winter? Somebody give me some testimonials that will convince him.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Sherry

    If your cats are anything like my neighbor's cats, this is what
you'll end up with.  One cat that uses the door both ways, one that
will go out but wants doorman service to get back in, and the other
door at that, and one cat who wants to be let in *and* out.

    Good luck!  Whatever you choose, the cats will continue with
their job of ruining your mind, making you an easy victim of the
mother ship's mind control rays.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Cheryl - 01 May 2004 01:58 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now
> officially closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Sherry

<fits of laughter at this image>  I just have to wonder how he made it
around the house without being seen by the furrys? Or maybe since he came
in on his own, they showed him to the food dish, the litter box and then
found him a place to crash for the night?  Awww.. such gracious hosts!

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Sherry - 01 May 2004 02:30 GMT
><fits of laughter at this image>  I just have to wonder how he made it
>around the house without being seen by the furrys? Or maybe since he came
>in on his own, they showed him to the food dish, the litter box and then
>found him a place to crash for the night?  Awww.. such gracious hosts!

Yeah, it says something for the hunting prowess of this crew. Digging in their
litterbox, no less.  DH says it's a good thing it didn't bite them on the butt
or they'd have never used the box again.

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 01 May 2004 05:02 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now officially
> closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this morning and found a huge
> salamander  in my shoe. Threw a towel over him and tossed it outside, shoe and
> all. He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
> litter stuck to him.
> They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.

The salamanders?
Sherry - 02 May 2004 05:42 GMT
>He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
>> litter stuck to him.
>> They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.
>
>The salamanders?

LOL, you and Adrian just gave me a mental picture of answering the door, and
hearing a voice, "Hello. Land Shark." (remember the old Saturday Night Live"
skit)
'Hello. Salamander."

"Uh... Candygram...."

Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 02 May 2004 06:18 GMT
>> He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
>>> litter stuck to him.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sherry
LOL!!!!!
Cheryl - 02 May 2004 22:17 GMT
> LOL, you and Adrian just gave me a mental picture of answering the
> door, and hearing a voice, "Hello. Land Shark." (remember the old
> Saturday Night Live" skit)
> 'Hello. Salamander."
>
> "Uh... Candygram...."

LOL I remember!!

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Hopitus2 - 02 May 2004 22:58 GMT
I can't stand this anymore. Is a salamander some kind of tiny alligator?

: > LOL, you and Adrian just gave me a mental picture of answering the
: > door, and hearing a voice, "Hello. Land Shark." (remember the old
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
:
: LOL I remember!!
Kreisleriana - 02 May 2004 23:26 GMT
>I can't stand this anymore. Is a salamander some kind of tiny alligator?

<http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/atigrin.htm>

Theresa
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claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful.
(Aldous Huxley)
Hopitus2 - 03 May 2004 02:06 GMT
Eeeeew. It is ugly and - "robust salamanders" - over 12 inches long? I would
have blown the thing away on the spot.

: >I can't stand this anymore. Is a salamander some kind of tiny alligator?
:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful.
: (Aldous Huxley)
Sherry - 03 May 2004 03:18 GMT
>>I can't stand this anymore. Is a salamander some kind of tiny alligator?
>
><http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/atigrin.htm>
>
>Theresa

Yup, that's it. The yellow & black striped one. It was about 6-8 inches long.
It pretty much filled up my sandal.

Sherry
Marina - 03 May 2004 04:00 GMT
"Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote

> >I can't stand this anymore. Is a salamander some kind of tiny alligator?
>
> <http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/atigrin.htm>

Aww, how cute they are!

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Adrian - 01 May 2004 15:44 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now
> officially closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Sherry

How do you expect a salamander to reach the doorbell? ;-)
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Marina - 04 May 2004 05:16 GMT
> The back screen door I leave cracked for the cats to enter is now officially
> closed for the duration of the summer. I got up this morning and found a huge
> salamander  in my shoe. Threw a towel over him and tossed it outside, shoe and
> all. He'd apparently been traveling all over the house, becuase he had kitty
> litter stuck to him.
> They'll just have to learn to ring the doorbell.

Sherry, if you get binary newsgroups, look in abpa, the thread called Velcro
rings the bell. Apparently this cat isn't the sharpest egg in the basket, so
if he can learn to do it, yours could, too. :o)

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Sherry - 04 May 2004 05:21 GMT
>Sherry, if you get binary newsgroups, look in abpa, the thread called Velcro
>rings the bell. Apparently this cat isn't the sharpest egg in the basket, so
>if he can learn to do it, yours could, too. :o)

Say, that's pretty neat!! Thanks for sharing it. I wonder if you really can
teach an old cat new tricks...they sure are sulking these days over the closed
door. Boots has taken up screen-climbing (which *really* gets my attention
quick--I hate that!) when she wants in. I hope the others don't learn *that*.

Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 05 May 2004 00:30 GMT
>> Sherry, if you get binary newsgroups, look in abpa, the thread called Velcro
>> rings the bell. Apparently this cat isn't the sharpest egg in the basket, so
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Sherry

I bet they would get it down in a hurry. Keep us posted!
Cheryl - 05 May 2004 01:07 GMT
>>> Sherry, if you get binary newsgroups, look in abpa, the thread
>>> called Velcro rings the bell. Apparently this cat isn't the sharpest
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I bet they would get it down in a hurry. Keep us posted!

Besides. She's a natural climber. :)

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