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True? Prince William shot and killed a cat belonging to someone on Balmoral

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Tree Line - 19 Apr 2004 13:50 GMT
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_925133.html

Wills accused of shooting cat

Prince William has been investigated by police after a woman claimed
he shot her pet cat.

Jeshiera Art filed a complaint saying Wills, 21, fired a gun outside
her home near Balmoral - and her cat has not been seen since, reports
The Sun.

Police decided to take no action so Jeshiera, 34, is threatening to
take out a private prosecution against William.

She said: "It had gone 11 when there was this huge bang. There was a
lamp shining on my house and one at my cat. Then there were a couple
of shots."

Buckingham Palace confirmed Wills had been on a rabbit shoot near
Balmoral, but denied a cat was shot.

Is this true? Seems to terrible and terrible it is only reported
in the obscure news services. If true, he should be arrested.
Karen Chuplis - 19 Apr 2004 14:07 GMT
> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_925133.html
>
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> Is this true? Seems to terrible and terrible it is only reported
> in the obscure news services. If true, he should be arrested.

I don't see how she could do anything unless she finds the cat.

Karen
Sherry - 19 Apr 2004 14:10 GMT
That sounds a little flaky & coincidental. I realize  that brief story doesn't
have all the details, but it doesn't sound to me that she saw enough to make
that kind of accusation.

But I am surprised that anyone is allowed to romp & stomp and shoot at rabbits
at (what sounds like) very close to her house.

Sherry
Hopitus2 - 19 Apr 2004 19:03 GMT
R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression those
royals do whatever, wherever, whenever they want......with no consequences
to their exalted hides. Whole different ballpark than here.

: That sounds a little flaky & coincidental. I realize  that brief story doesn't
: have all the details, but it doesn't sound to me that she saw enough to make
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:
: Sherry
Sherry - 19 Apr 2004 20:22 GMT
>R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
>threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression those
>royals do whatever, wherever, whenever they want......with no consequences
>to their exalted hides. Whole different ballpark than here.

Walllll....I'm telling ya, Pilgrim, NOBODY shoots *anything* close enough to my
house to spotlight my cats. Nobody. Not even Dubbya himself.
And on second thought, what kind of fun is tramping through pastures at night
shooting a defenseless animal? Killing for the *sheer* sake of killing. Not for
food, not even for trophy, which is bad enough. I'd seriously wonder about
what's in the heart of someone who enjoys that.

Sherry
Hopitus2 - 19 Apr 2004 21:00 GMT
Question is what's in the *heads*, not the hearts, Sherry. That family has a
rep, deserved or not, of let's just say not being real bright due to
inbreeding over centuries. Their collective i.q.'s would probably make,
comparatively, what's running our country look like Einstein.
Also, those princes don't really have very much to do; they don't work as we
know it. We really don't have anything like them in the USA; even our rock
stars have to give a concert now and then, and Bill Gates, our richest, puts
on his pants and goes somewhere every day, even if he doesn't lift a finger
physically. But showing up at some charity event is as hard as it ever gets
for the royals, in spite of the silly pics you see with one of them holding
a shovel full of dirt somewhere.....we just can't imagine such a life.
Anyone's pet would be expendable and not worth a discussion to such beings.

: >R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
: >threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression those
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:
: Sherry
Gracecat - 20 Apr 2004 01:23 GMT
Ok Ok!!!! I gotta make one itty bitty comment...

The Queen does have a fondness for her corgi's. You only have to go as far
as a few publicity photos before you see the dogs run unchecked on the
grounds of where ever she's in residence at. Watching them bounce all over
the throne, the Queen herself and whoever is in attendance... I think it's
sweet :)

I think the most telling of how hard the boys work, and what is given to
them freely would be a copy of their school work, the grades that are
reflected. Test scores, and things such as that.  There is no way, with 10+
years of education you can get by without some type of evidence you either
rode it out, or you worked to get those grades.

On the other hand!!!  Can we say Yay Norway? Or was it Finland??? The heir
to the throne married his sweetheart earlier this year and she's a divorced
mum :).  I think that was wonderful and very telling on the types of people
leading that country.

Grace

> Question is what's in the *heads*, not the hearts, Sherry. *snip*

> Anyone's pet would be expendable and not worth a discussion to such beings.
Jo Firey - 20 Apr 2004 02:05 GMT
> Ok Ok!!!! I gotta make one itty bitty comment...
>
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> the throne, the Queen herself and whoever is in attendance... I think it's
> sweet :)

Trouble is, that is where Anne's dogs got the publicity for their agressive
behavior.  Aparently not too long ago one of her dogs killed one of her
sister's Corgi's.  Of course that sounds worse, when it ends up in the
press, than the unfortunate family incident that it is.  My brother's dog
almost killed my mother's poodle several years ago.  And it was most
unexpected and everyone felt perfectly horrid about it.  These things do
happen.

> I think the most telling of how hard the boys work, and what is given to
> them freely would be a copy of their school work, the grades that are
> reflected. Test scores, and things such as that.  There is no way, with 10+
> years of education you can get by without some type of evidence you either
> rode it out, or you worked to get those grades.

Perhaps the royals aren't too bright, or perhaps the press likes to make
them seem that way.  Then again sweet as she seemed, Diana wasn't the
sharpest tack in the box either so it isn't all inbreeding.

> On the other hand!!!  Can we say Yay Norway? Or was it Finland??? The heir
> to the throne married his sweetheart earlier this year and she's a divorced
> mum :).  I think that was wonderful and very telling on the types of people
> leading that country.
>
> Grace
Jeanette - 20 Apr 2004 07:52 GMT
> > Ok Ok!!!! I gotta make one itty bitty comment...

> Trouble is, that is where Anne's dogs got the publicity for their agressive
> behavior.  Aparently not too long ago one of her dogs killed one of her
> sister's Corgi's.

Anne doesn't have a sister. (Well, so far as we know, who knows what Philip
got up to in his youth ...) Anne's dog killed one of the Queen's corgis, and
there was a brouhaha about which one of Anne's dogs had done it, whether it
was the one that had bitten a child, and was under a 'one more strike and
euthanasia' threat, or whether it was a different dog.
Marina - 20 Apr 2004 04:18 GMT
> On the other hand!!!  Can we say Yay Norway? Or was it Finland??? The heir
> to the throne married his sweetheart earlier this year and she's a divorced
> mum :).  I think that was wonderful and very telling on the types of people
> leading that country.

That's Norway. We don't have royalty in Finland. :o)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 20 Apr 2004 08:25 GMT
>That's Norway. We don't have royalty in Finland. :o)

Ahem...

Frank is very regal

Purrs Waffles

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Marina - 20 Apr 2004 14:18 GMT
"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> wrote
> >That's Norway. We don't have royalty in Finland. :o)
>
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>
> Purrs Waffles

OK, we don't have hoomin royalty in Finland. :o)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 20 Apr 2004 17:05 GMT
>> Ahem...
>>
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>
>OK, we don't have hoomin royalty in Finland. :o)

Okay. Just remember Frank is very regal and you had better treat him like a
king.. or else (flash of gleaming claws). He deserves no less.

Purrs, Waffles

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Marina - 20 Apr 2004 17:44 GMT
> >> Ahem...
> >>
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> Okay. Just remember Frank is very regal and you had better treat him like a
> king.. or else (flash of gleaming claws). He deserves no less.

Of course, of course. <bowing deep and crawling backwards> Frank is an
Emperor and you are his Empress. <turns tail and scuttles off>

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 20 Apr 2004 18:15 GMT
>Of course, of course. <bowing deep and crawling backwards> Frank is an
>Emperor and you are his Empress. <turns tail and scuttles off>

I do like it when the humans are kept in their place ;-)

Purrs, Waffles

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Kreisleriana - 20 Apr 2004 14:42 GMT
>Question is what's in the *heads*, not the hearts, Sherry. That family has a
>rep, deserved or not, of let's just say not being real bright due to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>a shovel full of dirt somewhere.....we just can't imagine such a life.
>Anyone's pet would be expendable and not worth a discussion to such beings.

Anyone *else's* pet.  *Theirs* are sacrosanct.  I remember seeing
stories about Princess Anne's homicidal maniac bull terriers
terrorizing the populace at large-- one even killed one of the Queen's
corgis.

Theresa
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claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful.
(Aldous Huxley)
Jeanette - 19 Apr 2004 22:47 GMT
> R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
> threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression those
> royals do whatever, wherever, whenever they want......with no consequences
> to their exalted hides. Whole different ballpark than here.

Not true, Princess Anne recently became the first Royal for ages to get a
criminal conviction because she let her dog run riot in a public area and
attack someone.
Gracecat - 20 Apr 2004 01:24 GMT
> > R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
> > threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression those
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> criminal conviction because she let her dog run riot in a public area and
> attack someone.

It's happened since as well... I think a member of the house staff needed
stitches. Not sure.

Grace
Hopitus2 - 20 Apr 2004 03:48 GMT
And what exactly was the Princess' penalty for her "criminal conviction"?

: > > R U kidding, Sherry? We don't live in a monarchy so that *would* be
: > > threatening behavior here in USA. But I've always got the impression
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
:
: Grace
Gracecat - 20 Apr 2004 05:51 GMT
It's been a while, and being in USA as I am, the exact escapes me but I
believe it was a fine... same as most any other first time offender if it's
a small dog with proven medical records and updated shots.

Grace

> And what exactly was the Princess' penalty for her "criminal conviction"?
>
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> :
> : Grace
Jeanette - 20 Apr 2004 07:53 GMT
> And what exactly was the Princess' penalty for her "criminal conviction"?

Exactly, I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure it was a fine. You could
Google, it was on the BBC news page when it happened.
GraceCat - 19 Apr 2004 21:30 GMT
Yes, true. But one thing in favor of this type of report is the fact
that Aunt (whatshername, Charles older sister) has a dog that has been
in the paper a couple times for attacking when unprovoked.  I have
nothing at all against tempermental dogs, I have my Mutt who will bite.
But I don't take her out in the public and let her run loose either
because of that exact reason. So true or not, the Royal family does have
previous animal issues behind them.

I doubt he shot a cat too. He's going to be King of England someday
(although I strongly suspect the title is on it's last two or three
generations) and I don't think he'd attempt something so stupid or
heartless. No matter how he feels about animals.  I'm no Diana fanatic,
but I do believe she was too caring of a person to raise a child that
way.

Grace

> That sounds a little flaky & coincidental. I realize  that brief story doesn't
> have all the details, but it doesn't sound to me that she saw enough to make
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Sherry
Hopitus2 - 19 Apr 2004 22:19 GMT
Gracie, I didn't mean the dude was raised that way. If you're a few
sandwiches short of a picnic, who knows what's fun to you.....to quote that
Robert Palmer epic, "A pretty face....don't mean no pretty heart....." (Bad
Case of Lovin'You). (snicker).

: Yes, true. But one thing in favor of this type of report is the fact
: that Aunt (whatshername, Charles older sister) has a dog that has been
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
: >
: > Sherry
Sherry - 19 Apr 2004 22:43 GMT
>Gracie, I didn't mean the dude was raised that way.

Well, yeah, but isn't their Pop an avid fox hunter? So they've been so to
speak, raised thinking it's "normal" to kill defenseless animals.

Sherry
Gracecat - 20 Apr 2004 01:14 GMT
Oh I know Hops!! I wasn't insinuating you at all... Truth be, I didn't read
all of the msgs and I don't recall what most of anybody has said. (rude I
know, got a buttkicking cold right now so....) This was an unbiased and
un.... what's that word for umm.. rubbing off on someone/prompted... comment
:)

And you are absolutely right though, the Monarchy does put forth a great
image today (to us USA'ers) but centuries are telling and the fact is, there
are some mighty big skeletons in that closet.

I think... I don't know... *bleh* I didn't think colds and stuff was
supposed to be contagious.

Grace

> Gracie, I didn't mean the dude was raised that way. If you're a few
> sandwiches short of a picnic, who knows what's fun to you.....to quote that
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> : >
> : > Sherry
Hopitus2 - 20 Apr 2004 03:52 GMT
Hee hee well the skeletons may be big but unlike USA's, they once had royal
blood running through their veins.....I wasn't trying to go "diggin' up
bones" (remember that song?) but just to point out that we on this side of
the pond have no concept of the life they lead and their standards of
behavior. Get rid of that cold, Gracie.

: Oh I know Hops!! I wasn't insinuating you at all... Truth be, I didn't read
: all of the msgs and I don't recall what most of anybody has said. (rude I
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
: > : >
: > : > Sherry
JP Hobbs - 23 Apr 2004 14:12 GMT
Righto, I wasn't buying into this but it sounds like bulldust to me I really
think your right when you say ,He's going to be King of England
someday,*whether they're on their
last legs or not* and I dont think William would risk
that sort of publicity, and I think he sounds like too nice a kid to do a
thing like that{ Harry might} but give the kids a break, the journalists
make half that stuff up.
 Jean.P.

> Yes, true. But one thing in favor of this type of report is the fact
> that Aunt (whatshername, Charles older sister) has a dog that has been
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> >
> > Sherry
O J - 19 Apr 2004 19:15 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------

    Here's another version.  The prince is apparently only suspected
of scaring off the cat by shining a searchlight on it from a Land
Rover and discharging a gun in the area.  You'd think the royal family
would have enough lands of their own that they could shoot all the
rabbits they wanted without discharging a gun near another party's
home.

     I have nothing against hunting, if it's for game to be eaten,
but this sounds vaguely creepy -- sort of a high class version of
going to the dump to shoot rats

Here is another version from a Singapore paper from:
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/latest/story/0%2C4390%2C246295%2C00.html

>Prince William in gun flap over cat

>LONDON - A devastated cat owner is threatening to take
>Britain's Prince William to court after he allegedly scared off
>the cat while on a night-time rabbit shoot.
>
>Prince William is accused of scaring off a tomcat named
>Dream while out with the royal gamekeeper on a rabbit hunt.

>The Daily Mirror tabloid reported that a tomcat named
>Dream, belonging to Jeshiera Art, 34, has vanished after a
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Prince William had been on a pest-control trip
>but said no cat had been killed. -- AFP
JP Hobbs - 24 Apr 2004 02:30 GMT
PerhapsWilliam was scaring the cat off because he was
concerned in caseit got hit accidentally  Jean.P.

> ---------------------<snip>----------------------
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> >Prince William had been on a pest-control trip
> >but said no cat had been killed. -- AFP
 
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