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David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 05:07 GMT This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station where I could sit and listen to -- guess what?-- Jewish music. By clicking on the songs, I could hear some of the finest Jewish music there is, in English, Hebrew, Ladino, Yiddish, etc.
So I was sitting here grooving to some very emotional music from the synagogue, blending voices in both English and Hebrew, and what do I see out of the corner of my eye but Samantha, moving her head in time to the music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic!
Christine Burel - 15 Apr 2004 05:30 GMT Love it! Christine
> This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked > my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very > loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 05:45 GMT Now I'm going to have to rename her. What's feminine for shmuel (Samuel)?
> Love it! > Christine [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very >>loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 06:03 GMT This is unbelievable! Sam is really into Jan Peerce singing "Sha, Shtill," a very emotional rendition of a song from the Warsaw ghetto, in Yiddish, and she acts as if she follows every word. If she breaks out into tears, I'll figure she is even more human than I!
> Now I'm going to have to rename her. What's feminine for shmuel (Samuel)? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very >>> loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Cheryl - 16 Apr 2004 02:13 GMT > This is unbelievable! Sam is really into Jan Peerce singing "Sha, > Shtill," a very emotional rendition of a song from the Warsaw ghetto, in > Yiddish, and she acts as if she follows every word. If she breaks out > into tears, I'll figure she is even more human than I! How cute! I believe they have their own musical tastes. Shadow loves Bette Midler. Go figure.
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Seanette Blaylock - 16 Apr 2004 09:19 GMT Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Jewish cat?:
>> This is unbelievable! Sam is really into Jan Peerce singing "Sha, >> Shtill," a very emotional rendition of a song from the Warsaw ghetto, in >> Yiddish, and she acts as if she follows every word. If she breaks out >> into tears, I'll figure she is even more human than I! >How cute! I believe they have their own musical tastes. Shadow loves Bette >Midler. Go figure. Felix doesn't seem to have much interest in music, but I've seen Avery dancing on his perch. :-)
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Cathi - 16 Apr 2004 17:09 GMT >Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> had some very interesting things >to say about Re: Jewish cat?: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Felix doesn't seem to have much interest in music, but I've seen Avery >dancing on his perch. :-) Years ago my parents and I were adopted by Purdey (RB), a sassy stray kitten who I think had been an unwanted Christmas gift. He turned up in early 1977, when David Soul was topping the UK charts. For some reason, Purdey would sit as close to the TV as possible whenever David was on there singing - and it was just for him, not other songs broadcast. He showed no interest in Starsky and Hutch though ;-)
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Kreisleriana - 16 Apr 2004 14:44 GMT >> This is unbelievable! Sam is really into Jan Peerce singing "Sha, >> Shtill," a very emotional rendition of a song from the Warsaw ghetto, in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >How cute! I believe they have their own musical tastes. Shadow loves Bette >Midler. Go figure. Stinky likes it when *I* sing, MAJOR go figure. ;) And he does not care if I am singing really badly, either; sometimes he likes that even better.
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Aerlinn - 17 Apr 2004 22:24 GMT > > This is unbelievable! Sam is really into Jan Peerce singing "Sha, > > Shtill," a very emotional rendition of a song from the Warsaw ghetto, in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > How cute! I believe they have their own musical tastes. Shadow loves Bette > Midler. Go figure. Marari & Mysti both love... wait for it.... Cats. I'm actually listening to it right now, and Marari (our orange male tabby) is in the groove, singing along to "The Rum Tum Tugger."
"The Rum Tum Tugger is a curious cat..." "Mrrrowww!!!" "If you offer him a mouse, he'll ask for a rat..." "Mrrrrooowwwl!"
Mysti, our female Maine Coon, is up on her window perch quietly listening and watching the birds; but if I pause the music she sticks her head out from around the blinds and mews at me irritatedly. Start the music back up, and she lays back down.
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Seanette Blaylock - 18 Apr 2004 08:52 GMT "Aerlinn" <aerlinn5@intotheflame.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Jewish cat?:
>Marari & Mysti both love... wait for it.... Cats. I'm actually listening to >it right now, and Marari (our orange male tabby) is in the groove, singing >along to "The Rum Tum Tugger." Felix has been known to request that video. :-)
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Christine Burel - 15 Apr 2004 06:16 GMT Shmuelina (??? - just guessing) -- but keep an eye on your bagels! (having said that we have to put our bagels in the refrigerator or Midnight will help herself to them). Christine
> Now I'm going to have to rename her. What's feminine for shmuel (Samuel)? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >>music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very > >>loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Hopitus2 - 15 Apr 2004 06:28 GMT I see no reason why Samantha could not also be a "chosen" cat......if BT Rowdy likes watching the Broncos lose during NFL season, why should she not enjoy Jan Peerce?
: Shmuelina (??? - just guessing) -- but keep an eye on your bagels! (having : said that we have to put our bagels in the refrigerator or Midnight will [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : > >>music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very : > >>loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 06:24 GMT This is getting too weird. I clicked on "My Yiddeshe Mama," and with the first bar, before the theme became apparent, Sam shot me a wide-eyed stare and slunk away into the den, tail tucked between her legs. No wonder; the version I got was a real tear-jerker.
> Now I'm going to have to rename her. What's feminine for shmuel (Samuel)? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very >>> loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Kreisleriana - 15 Apr 2004 14:22 GMT >This is getting too weird. I clicked on "My Yiddeshe Mama," and with the >first bar, before the theme became apparent, Sam shot me a wide-eyed >stare and slunk away into the den, tail tucked between her legs. No >wonder; the version I got was a real tear-jerker. You're going to have to bring her to NYC to see the "Fiddler on the Roof" revival. ;)
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Duke of URL - 15 Apr 2004 10:38 GMT > Now I'm going to have to rename her. What's feminine for shmuel (Samuel)? Samantha?
> > Love it! > > Christine [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >>music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very > >>loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Fuga :o\) - 15 Apr 2004 13:31 GMT what about shmulit.. -- it's a little isreali.. but hey i bet she's a modern cat :)
BTW where is the song sha shtil? could you please post the link.. thanks. "David Yehudah" <short7NOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote in message
David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 16:29 GMT Shmulit? Do you mean Shulamit, as in "The Song of Songs?"
My browser doesn't show a link to "Sha, Shtil." Go to Jewishmusic.com, click on "Recordings," "Browse Categories," "Yiddish," go to page 2 and click on "Jan Peerce Sings Yiddish Folksongs."
The song "Sha, Shtil (Hush, Quiet)" has an interesting history. I first ran across it while researching a novel about the Vilna Ghetto. It was included in a collection of Yiddish music on an album called "Music of the Vilna Ghetto." The ghetto was honeycombed with hundreds of hiding places, and mothers often crooned this lullaby to their babies to keep them quiet when the Germans came to search for them. Even a slight whimper at the wrong time could doom an entire family. There were even instances of mothers smothering their babies to silence them. Note: Jan Peerce is an opera singer; his version of this song is not very restful. Imagine someone shouting a lullaby into a baby's ears and wondering why he won't go to sleep!
Fuga :o) wrote:
> what about shmulit.. -- it's a little isreali.. but hey i bet she's a modern > cat :) > > BTW where is the song sha shtil? could you please post the link.. thanks. > "David Yehudah" <short7NOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote in message David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 16:43 GMT Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for "Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For that song, under "Browse Categories" click on "Holocaust" then the album "Partisans of Vilna."
All these Yiddish references are driving my spell checker nuts. :-)
> Shmulit? Do you mean Shulamit, as in "The Song of Songs?" > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> thanks. >> "David Yehudah" <short7NOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote in message Kreisleriana - 15 Apr 2004 18:49 GMT >Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for >"Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For that >song, under "Browse Categories" click on "Holocaust" then the album >"Partisans of Vilna." > >All these Yiddish references are driving my spell checker nuts. :-) Well has the kitty got up and done the kazatzy yet?
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Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley)
David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 21:53 GMT Not yet, but that's probably next. She's already started calling me "Boychik" and haggling with me over how much kibble she can have. Next she'll be wanting bagles with cream cheese and lox!
>>Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for >>"Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. > (Aldous Huxley) Kreisleriana - 15 Apr 2004 22:53 GMT >Not yet, but that's probably next. She's already started calling me >"Boychik" and haggling with me over how much kibble she can have. Next >she'll be wanting bagles with cream cheese and lox! When she starts trying to force-feed *you*, you'll know she's there. ;)
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Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley)
Tanada - 18 Apr 2004 03:34 GMT > Not yet, but that's probably next. She's already started calling me > "Boychik" and haggling with me over how much kibble she can have. Next > she'll be wanting bagles with cream cheese and lox! The time to worry is when she starts talking about good jewish girls, urges you to eat your matzo, and wants a fur coat for Mother's day.
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Tanada - 18 Apr 2004 03:32 GMT > Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for > "Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For that > song, under "Browse Categories" click on "Holocaust" then the album > "Partisans of Vilna." > > All these Yiddish references are driving my spell checker nuts. :-) Dave, my spell checker finds all the cat names a pain. I keep adding them, but it seems like there is always a new one.
Have you read "Decision at Dachau" yet? It is an overview of the Dachau trials that were going on at the same time as the Nuremburg ones. The author had access to the head prosecutor's records and files on the cases. The prosecutor started collecting all the records he could on the cases when the US commander in occupied Germany began commuting sentences of those who were convicted of war crimes, including Ilsa Koch, who's life sentence was changed to four years.
Pam S. who was so disgusted with the way some of those sentences were not handed down
David Yehudah - 18 Apr 2004 05:11 GMT Hi, Pam I haven't read that book but I know whereof you mutter. At the end of WWII, the Allies desperately needed a friendly Germany as a buffer between the USSR and Western Burrup. Towards that end they commuted the sentences of most German war criminals to zilch. After the Nuremberg trials, they executed exactly thirteen Nazi war criminals. The Russians executed over forty thousand in their sphere of influence. For some odd reason a German high up in the Nazi government, I don't remember his name, defected early in the war and parachuted into England. He tried to broker a peace but was seized by the British and sentenced to life in prison. After the war was over, he soon became the sole inmate of one of their prisons and lived there until a few years ago when he died, still a captive. I don't recall the exact details, but a group of Jewish survivors of the death camps got together after the cessation of hostilities and staged a phony raid on a German POW camp as a diversion while they injected the bread from the bakery with cyanide. The version I read stated that over 800 SS soldiers and officers died. Read "Forged in Fury," a true account of a group of Jews who got together after the war and went about Europe and South America hunting Nazis and killing them wherever found. They were the ones who kidnapped Eichmann and took him to Israel to stand trial. The group calls itself "DIN," which means "Justice." The name in Hebrew is also an acronym for "Dahm Israel Nokheyam," which means, "The blood of Israel will have revenge."
>> Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for >> "Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Pam S. who was so disgusted with the way some of those sentences were > not handed down Exocat - 18 Apr 2004 21:34 GMT Just to complete your excellent memory (I was into this as a lad 'xcos my Ma was secretary to Lord Russell of Liverpool, a Bitish advocate at Nuremberg):
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> "David Yehudah" wrote
> For some odd > reason a German high up in the Nazi government, I don't remember his [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > their prisons and lived there until a few years ago when he died, still > a captive. Rudolph Hess, Deputy Fuhrer. He was kept in Spandau Prison, West Berlin. The 3 Western powers wanted to let him out from the 70's on but the Russians always refused 'cos the guard rotations kept them a military presence in the West of the city.
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David Yehudah - 19 Apr 2004 18:21 GMT Thank you, Gordon. Rudolph Hess it was.
> Just to complete your excellent memory (I was into this as a lad 'xcos > my Ma was secretary to Lord Russell of Liverpool, a Bitish advocate at > Nuremberg): EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Apr 2004 20:24 GMT > Hi, Pam > I haven't read that book but I know whereof you mutter. At the end of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > their prisons and lived there until a few years ago when he died, still > a captive. I think that was Rudolph Hess, but IIRC, he actually landed his plane in Britain, he didn't parachute.
Tanada - 21 Apr 2004 21:40 GMT > I don't recall the exact details, but a group of Jewish survivors of > the death camps got together after the cessation of hostilities and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "Justice." The name in Hebrew is also an acronym for "Dahm Israel > Nokheyam," which means, "The blood of Israel will have revenge." I'll have to look for "Forged In Fury" at the library the next time I go. I wondered how Israel could tolerate the SOBs getting away with the murder and mayhem the SS and Nazi's created. So many of them got off scott free. I consider the bread as poetic justice, though that probably means I'm no better than those who condoned the murder of 6,000,000 Jews as well as all the others considered undesirable by the scum bags.
Pam S.
David Yehudah - 18 Apr 2004 05:12 GMT PS: Ilsa Koch should have been flayed alive, the same as her victims in Dachau.
>> Well, now I feel like a complete fool. I mistook "Sha, Shtil" for >> "Shtiler, Shtiler" which is the lullaby from the Vilna Ghetto. For [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Pam S. who was so disgusted with the way some of those sentences were > not handed down Tanada - 21 Apr 2004 21:43 GMT > PS: Ilsa Koch should have been flayed alive, the same as her victims in > Dachau. I agree. The reasoning for letting her off with a life sentence was that she was pregnant and they didn't want to execute a mother. The woman was a real "mother" all right, but not the kind they were talking about.
Pam S.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2004 06:50 GMT > Shmulit? Do you mean Shulamit, as in "The Song of Songs?" > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Imagine someone shouting a lullaby into a baby's ears and wondering why > he won't go to sleep! Well, if they can fall asleep to rock music at full volume, why NOT an operatic tenor?
Kreisleriana - 15 Apr 2004 14:19 GMT >This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked >my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very >loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! I once had a cat with a yarmulke-- but she was a girl. ;)
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Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley)
Ginger-lyn Summer - 16 Apr 2004 19:23 GMT >This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked >my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very >loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Hey, Dave, I swear my Sabra is Jewish. Not only did he tell me his name telepathically (I am serious), but he was very depressed one Yule season (we're Pagans, y'know, neither Christian nor Jewish). I could not figure out why in the world Sabra was so depressed until I looked on the calendar. Yule was a few days away, but it was the first day of Chanukkah (and I probably misspelled it). So I gave Sabra his catnip toy early, wished him a "happy Chanukkah!" and he was quite content. Weird.
Ginger-lyn
David Yehudah - 16 Apr 2004 21:47 GMT That is odd. "Sabra" is the fruit of the cactus in Israel, sweet on the inside but prickly on the outside. A "Sabra" is also a native-born Israeli, supposedly with the same characteristics as the cactus fruit.
>>This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked >>my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Ginger-lyn Summer - 16 Apr 2004 22:32 GMT >That is odd. "Sabra" is the fruit of the cactus in Israel, sweet on the >inside but prickly on the outside. A "Sabra" is also a native-born >Israeli, supposedly with the same characteristics as the cactus fruit. Yeah, I found all that out -- much later! The first time he told me his name, I thought it was nice, but had no clue what it meant. Someone told me they thought it was Spanish for "wise one." I found one of those baby-name books at the store, and it's shortened definition was "fruit of the cactus". Eventually, thanks to the Internet and whatnot, I found out a little more about the Sabra and the deeper meaning. 'Twas an interesting journey, thanks to a telepathic Jewish cat!
Ironically, Sabra keeps himself immaculately clean, and that includes his claws, of which he is extraordinarily proud. He adores petting, and if you are silly enough to not be petting him, he will extend those long, gorgeous prickly claws and sink them into your hand until you realize you are required to pet him. And he gives love bites which are a bit, ummm, *intense*. So I'd say he, or G-d, or whoever actually named him got it very right!
Ginger-lyn who did work for a rabbi for a couple of years, but *still* never heard the word "Sabra" in all that time! Plenty of other words, hehehe, but not that one ;-)
David Yehudah - 17 Apr 2004 00:22 GMT That's pretty close. "Wise one" in Spanish is "Sabio."
> Someone told me they thought it was Spanish for "wise one." Hopitus2 - 17 Apr 2004 06:28 GMT I know someone who named their black cat "Sambra" because they think it's Spanish for "shadow". I dunno.
: That's pretty close. "Wise one" in Spanish is "Sabio." : : > Someone told me they thought it was Spanish for "wise one." David Yehudah - 17 Apr 2004 16:15 GMT That's close; Shadow in Spanish is Sombra.
> I know someone who named their black cat "Sambra" because they think it's > Spanish for "shadow". I dunno. > > : That's pretty close. "Wise one" in Spanish is "Sabio." > : > : > Someone told me they thought it was Spanish for "wise one." EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2004 06:47 GMT > This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked > my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > music and listening intently. I turned the volume down, which I had very > loud, and I could hear her purring. Fantastic! Have you tried her on Klesmer music? (Not sure I spelled that right, but I'm sure you know what it is.)
David Yehudah - 17 Apr 2004 16:19 GMT I like klezmer music, and there is some there on that website, but I haven't exposed her to it yet. I remember, seems like centuries ago, there was a park in LA which some local Jewish group took over one Sunday. There were booths with all kinds of food and wandering klezmer bands playing. Wish I knew when and where they were going to turn up again.
>>This has to be the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. I clicked >>my way into Jewishmusic.com on the Web and found a listening station [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Have you tried her on Klesmer music? (Not sure I spelled that right, > but I'm sure you know what it is.) Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2004 17:16 GMT >I like klezmer music, and there is some there on that website, but I >haven't exposed her to it yet. If her head doesn't explode, she's definitely Chosen. ;)
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Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley)
Yoj - 17 Apr 2004 20:04 GMT Maybe you can find them if you Google klezmer.
Joy
> I like klezmer music, and there is some there on that website, but I > haven't exposed her to it yet. I remember, seems like centuries ago, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Have you tried her on Klesmer music? (Not sure I spelled that right, > > but I'm sure you know what it is.)
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