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Dude, I'm Gettin' a Dell

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Sherry - 13 Apr 2004 05:33 GMT
Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
Windows 95. I can't open half the websites people post, and if I do, it takes
forever (if the thing doesn't just lock up). Forget animated things, and the
sound is iffy.

All I use a computer for is internet surfing and keeping up the little mailing
list/newsletter labels for the Humane Society newsletter, so I never could
really justify buying a new one.

Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get Windows
XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?

Sherry
MaryL - 13 Apr 2004 05:49 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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>
> Sherry

Sherry,

I use Win XP-Home Edition at home (Compaq Presario computer) and
Professional (Dell computer) at the office.  I can't tell any difference,
and I don't think you would, either, for basic functions.  Incidentally, I
handle *large* numbers of photos on my home computer, lots of
wordprocessing, some basic spreadsheeting, and various functions such as
mail labels.  I also have cable connection at home and ethernet at the
office, and I have a router that I use as a firewall at home.  Even so, I
can't detect any difference at all between the two versions.  I think the
resources that will be more important to you will be disk space, RAM, and
related resources -- "the faster the better" for download.

Have fun with your new toy!

MaryL
Fuga :o\) - 13 Apr 2004 05:51 GMT
XP Professional is like Windows NT/2000.  I would highly recommend it.  It's
quite stable and more secure than XP Home.

Congrats!

Fuga
MaryL - 13 Apr 2004 05:57 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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>
> Sherry

Sherry,

Here is an article that describes some of the differences between Home
Edition and Pro:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

You will find that XP "looks" different than earlier versions of Windows.
However, it can be set to emulate the look of Win98 if you find that you
would be more comfortable.  XP needs to be set to "classic" view if you
decide that is what you want.

MaryL
Karen Chuplis - 13 Apr 2004 13:59 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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>
> Sherry

CONGRATS!!! You will be so amazed at the difference since you have gone so
long between. I don't think there is a good reason for the upgrade,
personally. Others might have more input than I though.

Karen
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 13 Apr 2004 14:30 GMT
There is a difference in XP & 95. I went straight from one to the other ages
ago now. XP not only looks different (but you can change the look to the
classic Windows look), but it stores files in different places. Once you get
used to it, it's fine.

Cheers, helen s
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Kreisleriana - 13 Apr 2004 14:27 GMT
>Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
>it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
>Windows 95. I can't open half the websites people post, and if I do, it takes
>forever (if the thing doesn't just lock up). Forget animated things, and the
>sound is iffy.

I have a "cheapo Dell."  It;s great.

Theresa
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JoJo - 13 Apr 2004 20:12 GMT
Sherry,

I have XP home edition, no problems works fine.  Not sure what the
difference is in professional - except more $$.  You can probably get away
w/home edition.

Be prepared, you'll be in for a bit of a shock getting used to XP compared
to 95.  It is completely different than most upgrades microsoft has come out
with.  You can set XP up for different users which is kinda cool if more
than one of you uses the pc.  (it saves your settings - thing such as your
background etc).

Welcome to the *new millenium* :)  My desktop is in desperate need of an
upgrade - getting new motherboard, memory and processor - I want SPEED! :)

JoJo
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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>
> Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Apr 2004 03:56 GMT
> Sherry,
>
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> Welcome to the *new millenium* :)  My desktop is in desperate need of an
> upgrade - getting new motherboard, memory and processor - I want SPEED! :)

Guess I'm not the only one that's discovering an upgrade is necessary!
More and more, when I try to do things like ordering merchandise from
web-sites, I've been getting "Javascript error" and my screen freezes.
Someone told me it's because my browser is too old (I'm using Netscape
4.79).  Only thing is, when I tried to download Netscape 7.1, I
discovered that most of the new software requires a minimum of 64MB RAM,
and mine computer has only 32MB!  (Of course, that was a lot more than I
had before, but things in the computer wolrd change fast, and I bought
my Gateway in November, 1999.)

I've been thinking about a Dell - mainly because they claim they build
them for each individual.  How do those of you who have one like it?
The guy at Fry's tried to talk me into one of their "built to order"
models, but what he recommended was over $1,000, and then he told me the
software was all in addition to that!  Also, it came with a much fancier
keyboard than I want, a "laser" mouse instead of the standard kind, and
big fancy speakers when I never USE my computer for listening to
anything - so I would be paying for a lot of fancy hardware I don't
really need or want.
Sam Nash - 14 Apr 2004 04:57 GMT
> > Sherry,
> >
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> anything - so I would be paying for a lot of fancy hardware I don't
> really need or want.

We've got two Dells.  Mine's a Dimension 4100 desktop model and DW's is a
laptop with a wireless network card (so she can use it in the living room,
kitchen, bedroom, wherever.  Both worked perfectly out of the box and
continued to do so with one exception (mine started having floppy disk
problems just before it turned 3 (and my service contract ran out).  They
wanted to send a tech out to replace it but I talked them into sending me a
replacement and I replaced it myself).

You can get a faster one for the same money, but Dell pretests all of the
configurations they sell and you can count on them.

Disclaimer:  I am not now nor have ever been associated with Dell Computers
in any way other than as a  satisfied customer, but YMMV.
Sam
Victor Martinez - 14 Apr 2004 14:02 GMT
> 4.79).  Only thing is, when I tried to download Netscape 7.1, I
> discovered that most of the new software requires a minimum of 64MB RAM,
> and mine computer has only 32MB!  (Of course, that was a lot more than I

!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ..... and I complain my laptop at work has only 256MB of
RAM... :)

> I've been thinking about a Dell - mainly because they claim they build
> them for each individual.  How do those of you who have one like it?

I had a Dell laptop at work and I hated it. We had to replace the
motherboard 3 times. I now have an IBM and love it, haven't had any
problems. I also have a Dell desktop at work and it's ok, it runs
Windows 2000 and hasn't blue-screened on me yet. Knock on wood.
At home I have a Gateway (my second Gateway, actually) and couldn't be
happier. They have awesome deals on their website too.

> anything - so I would be paying for a lot of fancy hardware I don't
> really need or want.

Build your own at either dell.com or gateway.com, you can choose exactly
what you want and see how much each piece will cost you. Then select the
option that makes the most sense!

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Hopitus2 - 14 Apr 2004 16:30 GMT
Uh.....Wall Street mumbles Gateway is on life support
financially.......closing many stores.

: > 4.79).  Only thing is, when I tried to download Netscape 7.1, I
: > discovered that most of the new software requires a minimum of 64MB RAM,
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: what you want and see how much each piece will cost you. Then select the
: option that makes the most sense!
Victor Martinez - 14 Apr 2004 16:38 GMT
> Uh.....Wall Street mumbles Gateway is on life support
> financially.......closing many stores.

Opening physical stores was a big mistake for an on-line retailer and
they're correcting it. I'm pretty sure their online operations are ok.
I've never had to contact their customer service or technical assistance
though.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 06:57 GMT
> > Uh.....Wall Street mumbles Gateway is on life support
> > financially.......closing many stores.
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> I've never had to contact their customer service or technical assistance
> though.

I bought my Gateway the end of 1999, when they were just beginning their
downward slide.  All I know is, their tech support sucks - I'd hang on
the line for a minimum of twenty minutes, listening to country-western
music on their "Gateway network" hold button (I happen to HATE
country-western), only to be told by some redneck that "that's a
software problem, you'll have to contact your supplier".  Since the
software was resident when I bought the computer, Gateway WAS the
supplier, but protests to that effect got no helpful response.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 06:52 GMT
> Uh.....Wall Street mumbles Gateway is on life support
> financially.......closing many stores.

Yeah - they closed the one near me, as I discovered last Saturday.  I
was more than a little annoyed, becuase I had called them just the
previous Monday to ask just where they were located.  You'd think the
guy who told might havew mentioned the fact that they were closing in a
couple of days!

But Dell doesn't seem to have any stores at all - sales all appear to be
by telephone or via the internet.
Hopitus2 - 16 Apr 2004 19:48 GMT
From what little I know re Dell.....no stores, right....although heavy
adverts to us, the "unwashed public", to buy their 'puters, I know two
people, one a relative, who buy Dells by the GROSS for huge corporate
entities....so it looks like to me that Dell (and the dude who owns Dell is
really named Dell!) has its claws into where the real $ is.....Big Bidness,
as our national leader might drawl. That's about all I know....re marketing,
know zilch re their tech support. As I stated before, I'm still hanging on
to my dinosaur Compaq Presario with its Pentium II, which suits my needs
fine, for the time being, with MSW 98, 2nd Ed.

: > Uh.....Wall Street mumbles Gateway is on life support
: > financially.......closing many stores.
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: But Dell doesn't seem to have any stores at all - sales all appear to be
: by telephone or via the internet.
Steve Touchstone - 14 Apr 2004 22:22 GMT
>> 4.79).  Only thing is, when I tried to download Netscape 7.1, I
>> discovered that most of the new software requires a minimum of 64MB RAM,
>> and mine computer has only 32MB!  (Of course, that was a lot more than I
>
>!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ..... and I complain my laptop at work has only 256MB of
>RAM... :)
<snip>

Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
still running old software. For straight word processing I still
prefer Word Perfect 5.1, running out of DOS, and 32MB is more than
enough, and if most of my computer time was spent on WP now I'd
probably still be using the system I replaced last year. Since I
retired from the Army, though, WP is no longer a biggy, now it's
getting on line, playing with pictures, etc, and I love the new system
with 512MB.
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Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 23:40 GMT
>Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
>still running old software. For straight word processing I still
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>getting on line, playing with pictures, etc, and I love the new system
>with 512MB.

First off, let me establish that I am a complete moron with respect to all
things technical. That said, I just have one more question; My humane society
membership list is on the old computer in Microsoft Word.(from 1997, I don't
know what version). I need it for newsletter labels and stuff. The new computer
has Microsoft Works Suite. Does anyone know if that will work for keeping the
list, and printing labels? Will I have to re-enter the whole list?
Sherry
Cheryl - 15 Apr 2004 00:38 GMT
> First off, let me establish that I am a complete moron with respect to
> all things technical. That said, I just have one more question; My
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> anyone know if that will work for keeping the list, and printing
> labels? Will I have to re-enter the whole list?

They are not compatible the last time I tried. If you can still access the
file on the old computer, is it a document that you can save as ASCII text?  
MS Works might be able to open that. Email me.

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John Biltz - 15 Apr 2004 02:38 GMT
>> First off, let me establish that I am a complete moron with respect to
>> all things technical. That said, I just have one more question; My
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> file on the old computer, is it a document that you can save as ASCII text?  
> MS Works might be able to open that. Email me.

You have a number of options.  The first is to simply install your old
Word on your new machine.  You said you had a broadband connection so you
might consider giving Open Office a try.  Its free, open source and
downloadable. I know people who use it and nothing else.  Its meant to be
a free office replacement. When I last had XP I bought for $99 Works and
Word boxed together.  I don't know if that is still available but it was
nice. You could price how much an upgrade to the latest Word would be
priced for a charitable organization.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 07:20 GMT
> >> First off, let me establish that I am a complete moron with respect to
> >> all things technical. That said, I just have one more question; My
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> nice. You could price how much an upgrade to the latest Word would be
> priced for a charitable organization.

Since there's not much in Works that I've ever even used (other than
Word, which apparently was in addition to, rather than part of) I think
I'll opt for MS Office this time, and get not only Word but Excel (which
I would use frequently if I had it).  The Works spread-sheet program
just doesn't cut it, and I've been frustrated about that ever since I
got this computer and didn't know how to transfer Word Perfect and Lotus
123 from my old computer.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 07:16 GMT
> > First off, let me establish that I am a complete moron with respect to
> > all things technical. That said, I just have one more question; My
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> file on the old computer, is it a document that you can save as ASCII text?
> MS Works might be able to open that. Email me.

I have MS Works (1999?) and MS Word. Since it all came resident on my
software, I just assumed Word was part of Works.  Newer versions of Word
not only read disks saved on older versions, but also my old
Word-Perfect documents.

> --
> Cheryl
MaryL - 15 Apr 2004 03:25 GMT
> >Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
> >still running old software. For straight word processing I still
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> list, and printing labels? Will I have to re-enter the whole list?
> Sherry

Sherry,

They are not compatible.  However, you should be able to open your Word
document (while still in Word) and use "save as" to save it as a Works
document.  Be sure to give it a different name to avoid overwriting -- it
shouldn't be a problem because you should automatically get a different file
extension, but a new name would avoid any possible problems.  If you have
any difficulty with this, I could do it for you if you want to send a copy
to me on disk.  Send e-mail to me if you want to do this.

MaryL
Cheryl - 15 Apr 2004 03:45 GMT
> you should be able to open your Word
> document (while still in Word) and use "save as" to save it as a Works
> document

Good one, Mary.  I never noticed that Word has the ability to save as a
Works doc. I just checked my Office XP and it does, too.

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Stacey - 16 Apr 2004 04:31 GMT
> >Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
> >still running old software. For straight word processing I still
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> list, and printing labels? Will I have to re-enter the whole list?
> Sherry

Open the old list on the old computer and save it to a diskette as a .txt
file, as opposed to a .doc file. You may lose some formatting, but you can
open the txt file using MS Works on the new 'puter. Or do you still have the
MS Word disks (disc?), you can install it on your new computer.

Stacey :)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 07:12 GMT
> >Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
> >still running old software. For straight word processing I still
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> has Microsoft Works Suite. Does anyone know if that will work for keeping the
> list, and printing labels? Will I have to re-enter the whole list?

Most Word files I've used will work on a newer version - IIRC, you can
write them in a newer version, save them to a floppy, and use them on
the old version, too.  However, I'm not QUITE sure about that - I have a
newer version on my home computer than on the one at the office, and I
know I've done things on the machine at work, then transferred them to
my home computer.  (I just can't remember whether I've done the same
thing in reverse or not, so don't treat what I say as gospel.)  It may
be like Quicken files - you can read older versions, but once you work
on them in a newer version, your old software doesn't recognize them any
longer.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 07:05 GMT
> >> 4.79).  Only thing is, when I tried to download Netscape 7.1, I
> >> discovered that most of the new software requires a minimum of 64MB RAM,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
> still running old software.

It is, but some of it, like the browser, I HAVE to upgrade (or continue
to get "Javascript errors" and a frozen screen from more and more
web-pages) and most of the upgrades have a minimum requirement of 64MB,
which is twice what I have now.  If it were just Word and Printshop
Deluxe, I'd continue to be happy with what I have.  But I buy a lot of
stuff over the net, and more and more I find when I get all the info
input and try to "send" my order, I get the Javascript message, and my
order doesn't go anywhere.
Steve Touchstone - 16 Apr 2004 10:02 GMT
>> Thing to remember, though, is that her old system sounds like it's
>> still running old software.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>input and try to "send" my order, I get the Javascript message, and my
>order doesn't go anywhere.

Yep, sounds like my old system and yours match up pretty well. I used
to do lots of database and word processing, and only a little on line
stuff. But, when my priorities changed I finally broke down and
upgrade after getting tired all the things I couldn't access. ;-(
And, BTW, I still have the old system sitting on the desk for the odd
times I want to do WP, and my business database is still running on
the old system (though now that business is starting up for this year
I'll probably change over).
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Cheryl - 14 Apr 2004 00:08 GMT
> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get
> Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?

Congrats! I just got a new Dell laptop and I paid the extra for XP pro.  
That said, I'm familiar with both Pro and Home and you really don't need
pro. I only got it so I'd be consistent with my work computer and anything
I can do there, I can do here.

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John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 02:29 GMT
>> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get
>> Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?
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> pro. I only got it so I'd be consistent with my work computer and anything
> I can do there, I can do here.

I would put the extra money into ram instead.  Before you plug your new
computer into the internet make sure you install a firewall or turn on
the firewall inside XP.  Its not the best one, only blocks incoming not
outgoing, but it will do until you can download a free one. You can get a
free antivirus as well.  I did not like XP. In fact it drove me to Macs
but I haven't used it in a long time.  A lot of people do and I am sure
it is better now than when it first came out.  I doubt one is more stable
than the other, if it was they certainly would not admit it.  But they
are the same platform and I can't imagine they would leave something out
that would hurt stability.  XP has more features mainly for high end
users.  You are going to be amazed how fast it is if you are using
something from 95.
Cheryl - 14 Apr 2004 02:43 GMT
John Biltz <biltzjohn@cox.net> dumped this in  news:vt0fc.3214$L75.2019
@fed1read06 on 13 Apr 2004:

> Before you plug your new
> computer into the internet make sure you install a firewall or turn on
> the firewall inside XP.  Its not the best one, only blocks incoming not
> outgoing, but it will do until you can download a free one.

I recently got cable modem and with my latest laptop addition (all done at
the same time) with a wireless NIC, and added a wireless router (very
cheap!!) which has its own firewall and have networked my desktop and
laptop to share printer and file shares on the desktop. No malicious
traffic can get to my internal network (that I've seen yet; I run McAfee
firewall but "allow all traffic" just to log it).  With no external
services running (like HTTP or FTP) I think it's safe.  Opinions?

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John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 08:04 GMT
> John Biltz <biltzjohn@cox.net> dumped this in  news:vt0fc.3214$L75.2019
> @fed1read06 on 13 Apr 2004:
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> firewall but "allow all traffic" just to log it).  With no external
> services running (like HTTP or FTP) I think it's safe.  Opinions?

McAfee is a really good firewall.  I've heard a lot of experts say there
is none better, used to us it myself. I set mine to allow after asking
then checked the always allow for most stuff. It was annoying at first
but it was how I found out I had some spyware on my system.  After a
couple of days the normal stuff becomes invisible.  But I was only
running a software firewall. You probably only need one or another but
two doesn't hurt.
Cheryl - 15 Apr 2004 00:10 GMT
John Biltz <biltzjohn@cox.net> dumped this in  news:Pn5fc.3742$L75.2514
@fed1read06 on 14 Apr 2004:

>  You probably only need one or another but
> two doesn't hurt.

Thanks.  Another good free firewall is Outpost. Very configurable.

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Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 03:50 GMT
>I did not like XP. In fact it drove me to Macs
>but I haven't used it in a long time.  A lot of people do and I am sure
>it is better now than when it first came out.

I have always used Macs at work. Beginning with the old SE, and ending with a
G4.. (I finally gave up because of health reasons & quit my job). If I were
still working, or working with design & graphics,,, I'd have sprung for a Mac.
Thanks for the firewall tip. Yeah, I bet I will be amazed. I used to joke that
new continents would form before web sites open on this thing.
So...look out. April 23 you all will eitther see a much faster me, or no me at
all if I can't manage to figure out setting the thing up.

Ssherry

Sherry
LOL - 14 Apr 2004 06:49 GMT
> >I did not like XP. In fact it drove me to Macs
> >but I haven't used it in a long time.  A lot of people do and I am sure
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>
> Sherry

April 23?  My brother's is April 24.  :-)

I don't know jack about computers or their programs, but I wanted to
say Happy Early Birthday and Congratulations on the new addition!  I
have the cheapest Dell laptop and XP Home, and am perfectly happy with
them both.  All I do with them is play on the internet.  My computer
at work, on the other hand, which I am *extremely* attached to (in
fact when I left my old job in December I took it with me), is not so
much a computer as a word processor, and boots up with a default date
of January 1, 1980.  24 years later, it's still going strong.  They
don't make 'em like they used to.

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Krista
Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 14:51 GMT
>April 23?  My brother's is April 24.  :-)
>
>I don't know jack about computers or their programs, but I wanted to
>say Happy Early Birthday and Congratulations on the new addition!

Thanks, Krista! It's the 16th.  I hate birthdays. I have a birthday curse,
awful things always happen on my birthday. I lost my childhood dog on my
birthday, my mom on my birthday, plus a myriad of lesser catastrophes on other
years. It's really a weird thing.

Sherry
polonca12000 - 14 Apr 2004 22:30 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear that, Sherry.
Lots of purrs and gentle hugs,
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> Thanks, Krista! It's the 16th.  I hate birthdays. I have a birthday curse,
> awful things always happen on my birthday. I lost my childhood dog on my
> birthday, my mom on my birthday, plus a myriad of lesser catastrophes on other
> years. It's really a weird thing.
>
> Sherry
John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 08:04 GMT
>> I did not like XP. In fact it drove me to Macs
>> but I haven't used it in a long time.  A lot of people do and I am sure
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>
> Sherry

Just don't tear the other down and copy the settings from the old one
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Apr 2004 04:00 GMT
> >> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get
> >> Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?
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> users.  You are going to be amazed how fast it is if you are using
> something from 95.

I notice that there are several Anti-virus/anti-spam/anti-spyware
software packages available.  I have NAV, because it came with my
computer (but only the anti-virus, not the whole works).  Is Norton's
package the best?  What about McAfee, which seems to offer more for a
bit less money?
John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 08:04 GMT
>>>> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get
>>>> Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?
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> package the best?  What about McAfee, which seems to offer more for a
> bit less money?

I think Norton has really slipped and is too intrusive and controlling.
McAfee beat it for the firewall.  I've used both and preferred the
McAfee.  AVG is free antivirus software for home use.  They sell a
commercial product for business so their always up to date its highly
regarded and free.
Adrian - 15 Apr 2004 14:58 GMT
>>>>> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade
>>>>> and get Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?
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> They sell a commercial product for business so their always up to
> date its highly regarded and free.

The firewall I use is Zone Alarm www.zonelabs.com it's free and seems to
work well.
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Trelling - 14 Apr 2004 03:42 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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>
> Sherry

Greetings,

the difference between XP home and professional is that xp pro has the
necessary extensions for complex networking that the office environment
requires and a few other things.

Xp home is more than sufficient for a standalone computer in the home

the most important thing about Xp is that it requires MEMORY (ie RAM) you
will need at the minimum 128mb Ram and preferable 256mb Ram.

also to stop the viruses and such i would recommend Norton Internet Security
2004 as one of the most complete packages for both firewall/viruses/parental
control/spam solutions

hope that this helps

regards

Trelling
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transmissions are guarded by no better sentinels
than man-made codes and corruptible devices,
there is no such thing as a secret.

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"This Alien Shore"
Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 05:45 GMT
>the most important thing about Xp is that it requires MEMORY (ie RAM) you
>will need at the minimum 128mb Ram and preferable 256mb Ram.
>
>also to stop the viruses and such i would recommend Norton Internet Security

Thanks for the info. This computer comes with 128 mb of ram, I hope it will be
enough? It has "McAfee" Security Center (virus  scan, firewall).. It's the
Dimension 2400 computer (the bottom of the line one they advertise on TV for
$499, w/ free shipping). After you add the CD burner, and the software you
need, etc. it adds up the price of course, but still really economical. Since
it's basically just a toy for me, I was trying to keep the cost down. Hope I
didn't scrimp so much I won't like it. (But then again, I'll think I'm in tall
cotton after using this old one so long)

Sherry
MaryL - 14 Apr 2004 11:02 GMT
> >the most important thing about Xp is that it requires MEMORY (ie RAM) you
> >will need at the minimum 128mb Ram and preferable 256mb Ram.
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>
> Sherry

One thing I would recommend (even for a "basic" computer these days) is more
RAM.  It's fairly inexpensive to jump from 128 to 256, and this is one of
those areas where people usually look back and wish they had opted for more.
XP requires a *lot* of resources.  If you are getting the "free"
preinstalled version of McAfee, you may find that you can only download new
antivirus definitions for 30 days -- then you will need to get a full
version of whatever AV software you use.  Also:  does yours include a floppy
drive?  You might want to consider it.

You're going to love having a new computer.  As you said, you will feel like
you're in tall cotton after using a 1996 version for all these years.  Happy
birthday!

MaryL
Karen Chuplis - 14 Apr 2004 13:56 GMT
>>> the most important thing about Xp is that it requires MEMORY (ie RAM) you
>>> will need at the minimum 128mb Ram and preferable 256mb Ram.
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>
> MaryL

I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
had.

Karen
Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 14:48 GMT
>I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
>had.
>
>Karen

They aren't shipping out till the 19th. Maybe I can still call & upgrade the
memory. I did upgrade to the full version of McAfee, and got a disk drive (just
becuase people are always giving me pics on disk for the newsletter, it was $20
more). I got a dual CD drive and CD burner also, that's about it that I can
think of.
Thanks for the help, everyone, I really appreciate it.

Sherry
Karen - 14 Apr 2004 15:24 GMT
> >I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
> >had.
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>
> Sherry

You could check. I bet they can.  It'll be really fun and exciting for you.
I always think a new computer is fun anyway.

Karen
Kreisleriana - 14 Apr 2004 15:55 GMT
>> >I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
>> >had.
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>
>Karen

I love a new computer.  All that RAM, all that disk space.  I love
putting my stuff on it, like decorating a new home or office.  I play
around with it for days.  Ahhh . . .

Theresa
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 06:48 GMT
> I love a new computer.  All that RAM, all that disk space.  I love
> putting my stuff on it, like decorating a new home or office.  I play
> around with it for days.  Ahhh . . .

Thing I'm most concerned about is how do I transfer all the stuff from
my present computer?  (I don't WANT newer versions of some of the
software I have, and my entire LIFE for the past five years is in the
files on my computer!)
MaryL - 16 Apr 2004 08:02 GMT
> > I love a new computer.  All that RAM, all that disk space.  I love
> > putting my stuff on it, like decorating a new home or office.  I play
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> software I have, and my entire LIFE for the past five years is in the
> files on my computer!)

That definitely can become a problem.  I use XP and have a "power" computer,
but I still have some favorite programs from years ago (including a
marvelous address book program that is no longer available).  Some of them
run fine under XP, but there are others that simply won't work at all and
had to be upgraded to XP-compatible versions.  Others will "run," but they
may not be as efficient as newer versions.

You said "transfer" from your computer.  Do you still have the original
program disks?  If not, then that becomes an even bigger problem.  In fact,
I would say that it is not feasible simply to "transfer" programs from an
old computer running an old operating system to XP.  It can be done (with
the right equipment), but it needs to be installed correctly to work well --
and I would be dubious about the results.  By contrast, it's a simple matter
to transfer data files.

I do transport large numbers of files from home to the office every day.  I
prefer to use zip disks for this.  I had to have a zip drive
custom-installed because they are now "old" technology, and computer
manufacturers do not include them.  I find zip disks much better for this
purpose than CDs because any file burned to a CD and then copied to another
computer (or even back to the original computer) will have been reset with
the "read-only" attribute.  It's a real pain to constantly encounter that
setting and then need to reset it so that I can edit the file.

MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2004 06:18 GMT
> > > I love a new computer.  All that RAM, all that disk space.  I love
> > > putting my stuff on it, like decorating a new home or office.  I play
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> You said "transfer" from your computer.  Do you still have the original
> program disks?  If not, then that becomes an even bigger problem.  

Most of them (except for Netscape, which was an internet download).
It's the Netscape files that most concern me - I have a very large set
of "Permanent Files" saved on Netscape (nearly two dozen "folders", with
quite a few messages in each).  I can save the individual messages to
floppies (but I'm not sure how they'll show up in Word) but it takes
FOREVER to save each message separately, and there are some, with JPEG
photos, that I'm not sure will save to Word at all.  It would be much
easier if I could just save my entire Netscape 4.79 (program and all
data) to the new computer, THEN upgrade the Netscape to 7.1 (which would
presumably upgrade my address book, bookmarkas and "Permanent Files"
when I installed it.)

I have an appointment Monday with a computer professional (a friend of a
co-worker has his own consulting company).  It's worth paying him for a
bit of his time, to have him look at what I have, advise me about a new
computer, then help me with its installation and the transfer of
whatever files we decide I need/want.  Unfortunately, the computer savvy
friend who first got me on the internet (by selling me his old computer
for a few bucks, when he upgraded) died shortly before I got my
Gateway.  (He had transferred all the programs from my original,
non-internet computer, but when I got the Gateway, I had no idea how to
transfer any of it again.)
MaryL - 17 Apr 2004 13:34 GMT
> > You said "transfer" from your computer.  Do you still have the original
> > program disks?  If not, then that becomes an even bigger problem.
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> computer, then help me with its installation and the transfer of
> whatever files we decide I need/want.

I no longer use Netscape because the university where I work only supports
Internet Explorer, and I wanted to use the same browser at home and work.
However, I have a file where I keep downloaded copies of programs that I
have used in the past -- and I do have Netscape 4.7 and 4.71 stored there.
I don't have 4.79, but it was similar.  If you can't download a copy of 4.79
from the web site, I could email whichever version from my "storage" that
you want.  I have never emailed programs (only data), so I would need
instructions from your computer friend on how to do it.  For example, should
it be sent as an attachment or by some other method?  That said, I doubt
that you will really need to install 4.7 and then go on to the newest
version of Netscape.  After you create a profile (something I am not
familiar with because the requirement came with a newer version of
Netscape), I think you will be able to save the important files (such as
mail, preferences, and bookmarks) to disk and then copy them to the
appropriate location.  Be sure to have your computer friend verify that
files have been correctly copied before he leaves (especially those with
photos).  Here is a link that may help you with the process:
http://www.ufaq.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=99
You might also want to look at this location.  It deals with lost mail, but
you might find some useful information:
http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7lostprofwinxp.html
Finally, there is a newsgroup for Netscape (but it is not carried by all
ISPs).  It is: netscape.public.general.  I found it by searching through
secnews.netscape.com and still have it on my list of newsgroups "just in
case" I would want to use it again (and that is how I located the two URLs I
listed here).

Please send private email to me if you do want a copy of the Netscape
programs I have.  If you could contact your computer friend this weekend and
ask if (and how) Netscape should be emailed, I could send the program so
that it would be available before he arrives on Monday.  Remember to "take
out the litter" when you use the address attached to this message.

Good luck!
MaryL
MaryL - 17 Apr 2004 13:51 GMT
> Please send private email to me if you do want a copy of the Netscape
> programs I have.  If you could contact your computer friend this weekend and
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> Good luck!
> MaryL

I tried to send a copy of this message to your email address.  However, your
settings in earthlink reject all messages unless the sender is already
listed in your "approved" list.  I received a return message from earthlink
asking for my full name, but I do not list that on newsgroup mail.
Therefore, please be sure to include my address in your allowed senders list
if you do ask me to email the Netscape program to you.  Otherwise, earthlink
will reject it.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2004 20:17 GMT
> > Please send private email to me if you do want a copy of the Netscape
> > programs I have.  If you could contact your computer friend this weekend
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> if you do ask me to email the Netscape program to you.  Otherwise, earthlink
> will reject it.

It doesn't completely reject it, just keeps it in a "Suspect E-Mail"
file for fourteen days.  That's one of the two "minuses" in their
spamcatcher (the other being that the "Suspect E-Mail" sits there taking
up some of my 10MB allowance until it expires in fourteen days, unless I
go in and tell earthlink to eliminate it.  (Consequently, since I get so
MANY messages - mostly in oriental languages - I check my "suspect" file
at least once a day, and transfer those like yours into my in-box,
adding them to the allowed sender list.)  Earthlink's "Suspect" file now
offers several options, including "this is spam" (which hopefully
relegates the sender to "Known Spam" from then on), but since they
changed the web-page, That's where I get a "Javascript error", and it
won't follow instructions.
MaryL - 17 Apr 2004 21:04 GMT
> > > Please send private email to me if you do want a copy of the Netscape
> > > programs I have.
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> It doesn't completely reject it, just keeps it in a "Suspect E-Mail"
> file for fourteen days.

I received your email and sent a reply.  However, this was also rejected --
and in this case, the message did not say that my reply had been sent to the
"suspect" file.  It said "user unknown."  I hope you receive the information
because I still can't send information to you that Earthlink will accept.

MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Apr 2004 19:59 GMT
Did you remove the "nospam" from my return address?  Please try again -
I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my e-mail.  I tried to
send myself a message from my office machine, and although it went
through okay using Netscape 7.1 (which is the optional browser on my
office computer), I couldn't send it at all using the Netscape 4.5 which
is the default browser, there.  (I don't think that should make any
difference, should it?)

Well, I'm definitely going to get a new computer, but it will have to
wait until I get back from my first week of May vacation.

> > > > Please send private email to me if you do want a copy of the Netscape
> > > > programs I have.
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>
> MaryL
MaryL - 19 Apr 2004 22:34 GMT
> Did you remove the "nospam" from my return address?  Please try again -
> I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my e-mail.  I tried to
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> Well, I'm definitely going to get a new computer, but it will have to
> wait until I get back from my first week of May vacation.

I did remove "nospam" from my original message, but my addy may not have
been on your approved list at that time.  Then I tried to send it my using
"reply" but didn't notice that "nospam" appears in your address even when
you send personal email.  So, I just re-sent the message ... and it appears
that this one may have gone through correctly.  If so, I hope the
information I sent was useful.  Please feel free to use email if I can help.

MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 Apr 2004 04:12 GMT
> > Did you remove the "nospam" from my return address?  Please try again -
> > I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my e-mail.  I tried to
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> that this one may have gone through correctly.  If so, I hope the
> information I sent was useful.  Please feel free to use email if I can help.

Uhhh... I did reply - you probably hadn't yet checked your e-mail, yet.
I appreciated your input, it was very helpful.
John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 21:05 GMT
> I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
> had.

Its cheaper to buy it yourself.  Generally, with manufacturers like Dell,
HP, Gateway and most of all Apple it will cost you 2 to 3 times as much.
If you buy it at a reseller then its a different story they will give you
what you ask for in terms of price.
Sam Nash - 15 Apr 2004 03:05 GMT
> > I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish you
> > had.
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> If you buy it at a reseller then its a different story they will give you
> what you ask for in terms of price.

You're absolutely correct, John, about the difference in price.  However,
the instant you put in the larger/new memory sticks, your warranty's out the
window.  Call 'em up and they send a sharp young kid out to look at your
problem.  They see there's non-OEM memory and they quit working on the
problem, even if the memory has nothing to do with your issue.  BTDT.  If
one isn't "computernik" enough to argue with the tech, they're out of luck.
You would have to reproduce the problem without the non-OEM memory
"polluting" the system, and even then it's a toss-up as to whether the tech
will look at a system that "had been tampered with".

Just my .02.
Sam
Hopitus2 - 15 Apr 2004 06:34 GMT
Wow! Sounds like my runaround w/tech support of Compaq, now gobbled up by
HP, about my dinosaur '98 model Presario's modem problems lately. I got more
help out of the repair dudes @ CompUSA, so I dragged it down there for a new
modem.

: > > I agree with MaryL about the RAM. It's usually the one thing you wish
: you
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: Just my .02.
: Sam
Victor Martinez - 14 Apr 2004 14:04 GMT
> version of whatever AV software you use.  Also:  does yours include a floppy
> drive?  You might want to consider it.

I haven't used a floppy drive in about 6 years... :)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 14 Apr 2004 15:47 GMT
>One thing I would recommend (even for a "basic" computer these days) is more
>RAM.  It's fairly inexpensive to jump from 128 to 256, and this is one of
>those areas where people usually look back and wish they had opted for more.
>XP requires a *lot* of resources.

Yup - I've got 512 on my machine. XP needs memory!

>If you are getting the "free"
>preinstalled version of McAfee, you may find that you can only download new
>antivirus definitions for 30 days -- then you will need to get a full
>version of whatever AV software you use.

The version of McAfee that came with my Dell is the full thing - 12 months'
licence all upgrades etc., etc..

> Also:  does yours include a floppy
>drive?  You might want to consider it.

Certainly Dell's over on this side of the pond don't seem to come with the
floppy drive but *do* have a CD/DVD re-writeable drive as standard.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Apr 2004 06:44 GMT
> >One thing I would recommend (even for a "basic" computer these days) is more
> >RAM.  It's fairly inexpensive to jump from 128 to 256, and this is one of
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> Certainly Dell's over on this side of the pond don't seem to come with the
> floppy drive but *do* have a CD/DVD re-writeable drive as standard.

I dunno about the UK, but here you can get one if you WANT it - anyway,
a lot I've looked at still have them, in addition to both writeable and
read-only CD/DVD drives. (I have a lot of prized photos which I had put
on floppies rather than having prints made - I'd need one for that, if
nothing else.)  They also come with extra ports for digital camera
memory sticks, and a lot of the other ports in front, where they're
acessible.
MaryL - 16 Apr 2004 08:05 GMT
> > >One thing I would recommend (even for a "basic" computer these days) is more
> > >RAM.  It's fairly inexpensive to jump from 128 to 256, and this is one of
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> memory sticks, and a lot of the other ports in front, where they're
> acessible.

I have a *large* numer of digital photos.  Even though I worte in a previous
message about my frustration with CDs setting the attribute to read-only, I
would reserve that comment to data files.  I think you would be much better
off if you burn your photos to a CD.  The CD has a much larger capacity, and
it is a much more stable medium than floppies.

MaryL
Marina - 14 Apr 2004 17:36 GMT
"Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote
(But then again, I'll think I'm in tall
> cotton after using this old one so long)

This was an interesting saying I've never heard before. What exactly does it
mean?

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Victor Martinez - 14 Apr 2004 18:13 GMT
> This was an interesting saying I've never heard before. What exactly does it
> mean?

Probably that you're in trouble?

Victor, who is also unfamiliar with this expression... :)

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Karen - 14 Apr 2004 18:22 GMT
I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I suppose
it relates back to if your cotton crop was doing really well, you'd have a
great financial year, be well respected etc..

Karen

> > This was an interesting saying I've never heard before. What exactly does it
> > mean?
>
> Probably that you're in trouble?
>
> Victor, who is also unfamiliar with this expression... :)
RoseTower - 14 Apr 2004 22:54 GMT
> I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I suppose
> it relates back to if your cotton crop was doing really well, you'd have a
> great financial year, be well respected etc..
>
> Karen

Also harvesting cotton manually would be much easier if it were tall
enough that you didn't have to bend over to get it. Just a thought.

Eve
Sherry - 14 Apr 2004 23:26 GMT
>I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I suppose
>it relates back to if your cotton crop was doing really well, you'd have a
>great financial year, be well respected etc..
>
>Karen

Right, Karen! (Note to self: Try harder to keep the hick from leaking out)
Karen Chuplis - 15 Apr 2004 00:43 GMT
>> I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I suppose
>> it relates back to if your cotton crop was doing really well, you'd have a
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>
> Right, Karen! (Note to self: Try harder to keep the hick from leaking out)

That is known as "local color". You are not a "hick".
Sherry - 15 Apr 2004 01:33 GMT
>> Right, Karen! (Note to self: Try harder to keep the hick from leaking out)
>
>That is known as "local color". You are not a "hick".

LOL, thanks Karen. You're just cuter than a speckled pup sleepin' in the
sunshine. :)

Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 15 Apr 2004 02:09 GMT
>>> Right, Karen! (Note to self: Try harder to keep the hick from leaking out)
>>
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>
> Sherry

Awww shucks.
Marina - 15 Apr 2004 03:45 GMT
> >I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I suppose
> >it relates back to if your cotton crop was doing really well, you'd have a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Right, Karen! (Note to self: Try harder to keep the hick from leaking out)

No, no, don't do that! I like learning new expressions, and this is a great
place for that, because there arer people from all over the world here. :o)
Anyway, there's nothing hick about it to me, it's just something I haven't
heard before.

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David Yehudah - 15 Apr 2004 04:22 GMT
<Singing> Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep, dark depression,
excessive misery. If it weren't fer bad luck, I'd have no luck at all.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me.

>>>I think it means, living high on the hog. Nothing could be better. I
>
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> Anyway, there's nothing hick about it to me, it's just something I haven't
> heard before.
GraceCat - 14 Apr 2004 18:16 GMT
I've always heard it as high cotton. Here... at least, in Louisiana, it
means on top of the world... nothing could be better, life is good. Most
of the time, I hear a "Hot Damn!" in conjunction to high cotton.

Gosh, talk about replacing one xpression with another :)

Grace

> "Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote
> (But then again, I'll think I'm in tall
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> Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
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Hopitus2 - 14 Apr 2004 22:08 GMT
Yes, Gracie is right....a deep south expression equalling "hog heaven"......

: I've always heard it as high cotton. Here... at least, in Louisiana, it
: means on top of the world... nothing could be better, life is good. Most
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
: > Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
: > Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki
LOL - 15 Apr 2004 05:37 GMT
> I've always heard it as high cotton. Here... at least, in Louisiana, it
> means on top of the world... nothing could be better, life is good. Most
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>
> Grace

We say *high cotton* here in south Georgia too.  Same meaning.

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PS:  Sherry, you are not alone in your hickness.   :-P
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Apr 2004 03:43 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited. (Even though
> it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996 Packard Bell, with
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> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get Windows
> XP Professional instead of Windows XP home?

A friend of mine told me the Professional version is more secure, but
the salesperson at Fry's Electronics said that's only true if your
computer is linked to a network.  He said if you just have one computer,
the Home version is amply secure, and quite a bit less expensive.
Sumkatz - 16 Apr 2004 09:31 GMT
>> Does anyone know, is there any reason I should buy the upgrade and get
>> Windows
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>the salesperson at Fry's Electronics said that's only true if your
>computer is linked to a network.  

Like the internet :)

>He said if you just have one computer,
>the Home version is amply secure, and quite a bit less expensive.

   miaow
Adrian - 14 Apr 2004 17:03 GMT
> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited.
> (Even though it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996
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>
> Sherry

Congratulations on the new computer. It's probaly not worth upgrading to
proffesional, it's supposed to be more secure, but Service Pack 2 is set to
be released in June which will have among other things, security
enhancements.
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John Biltz - 14 Apr 2004 21:10 GMT
>> Whoa. I'm getting a new computer for my birthday. I'm so excited.
>> (Even though it's just a cheapo Dell)....BUT I now have a circa 1996
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> be released in June which will have among other things, security
> enhancements.

Wasn't service pack 2 supposed to be released back in January?
Cheryl - 15 Apr 2004 00:10 GMT
>> Congratulations on the new computer. It's probaly not worth upgrading
>> to proffesional, it's supposed to be more secure, but Service Pack 2
>> is set to be released in June which will have among other things,
>> security enhancements.
>
> Wasn't service pack 2 supposed to be released back in January?

I think they were having too many problems with SP1a and then released
SP1b. Something to do with the JVM (IIRC).

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