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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2004A little concerned about Persia
I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening came/went with no phone call. He'll probably call me today (Saturday). Some of you read about my great Dallas adventure and the fact that Persia came down with another UTI while I was gone. She's doing okay with that but I'm concerned about her weight. She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's at 10 lbs. I've noticed she is not eating the UR food they've got her on. She'll take a few bites, then just walk away. And she meows at me constantly if I head for the kitchen, like "Please, I'm starving!" Okay, I know that's a typical cat-trick but since her bowl is staying full of food I really do think she's hungry. (I have not given in! No Fancy Feast!) When she first adopted me another vet told me her ideal weight was 11 lbs. Maybe I just got used to her being a 'fatty', but it feels very odd to me to feel bones in her neck and her hips when I stroke her. And then to see she's not really eating... maybe it's because she's still being treated for the UTI (she's a good girl and lets me give her the Clavamox drops twice a day) and still doesn't quite feel well? She's acting okay otherwise. Running around, playing. Kneading my side in the middle of the night ("Mom, I'm so glad you're home! and me too!") I don't know, what do you think? Was I just used to a fatter cat or should I be concerned over the drop in weight and lack of enthusiasm for this UR food? I know the vet will call me today, but wanted input from my pals here :) Jill if it were me then i would be a little concerned but i am neurotic when it comes to my little darlings. the vet should put your mind at ease but i am sure mistoffelees and Grizzy will be sending you some purrs that your mind is put at ease later today. Cati > I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening came/went > with no phone call. He'll probably call me today (Saturday). [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill Purrs to Persia I too would be concerned after having Henri doing the same thing I think you should get him a blood test that was the only way they found out what was wrong with him he was 9-3.kl, and when I finally found that out, he was down to 5-6.kl his kidneys were failing I could only keep him about a week after that and had to have him put to sleep,hewas 13 1\2. I was devastated Jean.P. > I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening came/went > with no phone call. He'll probably call me today (Saturday). [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill > Purrs to Persia I too would be concerned after having Henri > doing the same thing I think you should get him a blood test [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and had to have him put to sleep,hewas 13 1\2. I was devastated > Jean.P. Oh no, Jean! I'm so sorry to hear that. After all the trouble Persia went to to insist I become her human, I'm counting on her being stubbornly insistent she stay with me for years and years. I'm on hold with the vet's office right now; he was with a patient but they said he'll talk to me in a few minutes if I will hold. Of course I will. Jill >> I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening >> came/went with no phone call. He'll probably call me today [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Jill > Oh no, Jean! I'm so sorry to hear that. After all the trouble Persia went > to to insist I become her human, I'm counting on her being stubbornly > insistent she stay with me for years and years. > > I'm on hold with the vet's office right now; he was with a patient but they > said he'll talk to me in a few minutes if I will hold. Of course I will. Jill, I hope the vet has put your mind at ease by now. Maybe this is the b*st*rd cat trick Persia was planning to punish you for leaving her? ;o) Peaches isn't off her (his?) food, is she (he?)? Purrs that Persia turns out OK.  SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki >> Oh no, Jean! I'm so sorry to hear that. After all the trouble >> Persia went to to insist I become her human, I'm counting on her [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > her? ;o) Peaches isn't off her (his?) food, is she (he?)? Purrs that > Persia turns out OK. It's quite possible this is the trick Persia intended to pull on me! Peaches isn't able to pull it off; I gave her a slice of apple yesterday before I left for work and she devoured it. She was probably chirping apologies to Persia all day for being so weak. Jill > Purrs to Persia I too would be concerned after having Henri > doing the same thing I think you should get him a blood test [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and had to have him put to sleep,hewas 13 1\2. I was devastated > Jean.P. You know, I agree with this. It'll make you feel better to know the levels are OK and it is all to easy to attribute weight loss to the stress of you being gone or the UTI, and not do it, when often weight loss may be the only early indicator of a more serious problem that you *could* nip in the bud if you know about it. Karen > I don't know, what do you think? Was I just used to a fatter cat or > should I be concerned over the drop in weight and lack of enthusiasm > for this UR food? My guys and girl are sending eating purrs for Persia. Oi, I'd be worried too but I'm sure the vet will have some answers. Is she drinking? SignatureCheryl >> I don't know, what do you think? Was I just used to a fatter cat or >> should I be concerned over the drop in weight and lack of enthusiasm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > worried too but I'm sure the vet will have some answers. Is she > drinking? Yes, she continues to drink from her fountain. Not inordinate amounts, just normally. Jill Purrs for Persia from all of us -- I would talk to my vet as it does sound like she lost her weight pretty quickly. It's a hard balance to hit between giving them the food that is "good" for them and having them enjoy a good quality of life sometimes. I know with my CRF cats, now RB, Frodo lived to be almost 21 and Shetra lived to be 18 -- I did the sub-q fluids but gave them the food they liked rather than the CRF food they wouldn't eat. Good luck with Persia! Christine > >> I don't know, what do you think? Was I just used to a fatter cat or > >> should I be concerned over the drop in weight and lack of enthusiasm [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jill >She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she >developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's at 10 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >typical cat-trick but since her bowl is staying full of food I really do >think she's hungry. (I have not given in! No Fancy Feast!) Jill, that's an awful lot of weight for her to lose. I wouldn't worry about that in itself, just the fact that she's not eating enough. I wonder if the vet will let you switch to another food that she might like better. Purrs for Persia to stay healthy! Sherry >> She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she >> developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Sherry Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main thing right now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested water-packed tuna stirred in with the dry food. Persia may be the only cat who doesn't like tuna. He said, then try some Fancy Feast. Oh! She'll be thrilled to hear/eat that! He also suggested something odd: chicken noodle soup mixed in with the dry food. Really?! Hmmm, never would have thought of that. On Monday I will pick up some of the UR canned food; he said she may prefer that so we'll give it a try. Also said to cut her Clavamox to once a day to stretch it out; this may be a lingering UTI which needs slower treatment and a refill on the Rx. I asked; they did blood tests and all that while she was boarded with them (which would explain why the bill was over $300). Her kidney's are fine, but now he's concerned with keeping her liver functions normal as she recovers. She's acting normally otherwise, but we need to keep her weight up and keep her eating. Persia and I thank you for the reply and concern, Sherry :) Jill >Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main thing right >now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested water-packed tuna >stirred in with the dry food. Persia may be the only cat who doesn't like >tuna. He said, then try some Fancy Feast. Oh! She'll be thrilled to >hear/eat that! He also suggested something odd: chicken noodle soup mixed >in with the dry food. Really?! Hmmm, never would have thought of that. Let us know if she eats the Fancy Feast, ok? It just worries me when they get "off" their food. I'm glad the vet seems concerned about protecting her liver functions. Keeping enough food going through her system will help that. If she dives into the Fancy Feast, we'll know she was just telling you she doesn't *like* the new food. Still purring!! Sherry >> Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main >> thing right now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Still purring!! > Sherry She devoured half the Cod, Shrimp & Sole Fancy Feast without a qualm! So, apparently it's just the UR food she doesn't like. I'm glad he gave me the go-ahead on this, but I am concerned for the future. She's not supposed to eat food with high magnesium or ash content on a regular basis, and FF has both. Maybe the canned UR will satisfy her... I'll find out next week. Jill >> Let us know if she eats the Fancy Feast, ok? It just worries me when >> they get "off" their food. I'm glad the vet seems concerned about [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Jill I guess she really doesn't like her prescription food! I hope you'll be able to find something that Persia likes. > She's not supposed to > eat food with high magnesium or ash content on a regular basis, and FF > has both. Maybe the canned UR will satisfy her... I'll find out next > week. That is so great that she ate. I wonder if the vet would ok letting you mix in the FF and start cutting it back until it is all UR? Worth asking. :) SignatureCheryl >>> Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main >>> thing right now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Jill How long since her teeth were checked? Just covering all bases. some Fancy >>>> Feast. Oh! She'll be thrilled to hear/eat that! He also suggested >>>> something odd: chicken noodle soup mixed in with the dry food. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> > How long since her teeth were checked? Just covering all bases. She got the full check, shots renewed, the whole nine yards, when she was boarded week before last. She's like a small panther when it comes to teeth... long, sharp and probably more white than mine are :) Jill Jill, glad to hear Persia is eating again. We will remember her in our prayers. Jazz & his mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time > some Fancy > >>>> Feast. Oh! She'll be thrilled to hear/eat that! He also suggested [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jill >>> Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main >>> thing right now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Jill Can you mix it? Karen ... He also suggested something odd: chicken noodle soup mixed > in with the dry food. Really?! Hmmm, never would have thought of that. ...> > Jill Check the ingredients of the soup for onion. Onion is not good for cats. Maybe chicken bullion or broth would be better than the soup. Purrs to you and Persia. We hope she is herself again soon. Annie, Cinder and Rosie >Sherry, I just got off the phone with the vet. He said the main thing right >now is to get her eating this weekend. He suggested water-packed tuna [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Jill Purrs for Persia to feel much better soon. Ginger-lyn Lots of purrs and best wishes for Persia to eat and calming hugs for you, Jill, SignaturePolonca & Soncek ><snip>> She's acting normally otherwise, but we need to keep her weight up and keep > her eating. > > Persia and I thank you for the reply and concern, Sherry :) > > Jill I'm so glad to hear its not Kidney trouble, before they took blood tests from Henri, they said he wasn't eat ing cause he had a bad tooth, I had it out at cost of a &100 and after a week or more he was still not eating so I took him backto see if he had another or if they had taken the wrong tooth, so he lost another tooth, and I spent another&100 and still he was the same, thats when he had a blood test, by that time he was neither eating or drinking, I was trying to feed him off my finger,but two tiny licks and that was all,so they told me another week was all I should keep him, I've missed him ever since and that was nearly three years ago. Jean.P. > >> She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she > >> developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Jill So sorry for your loss, Jean. Christine > I'm so glad to hear its not Kidney trouble, before they took blood tests > from Henri, they said he wasn't eat ing cause he had a bad tooth, [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > > > Jill (snipped) > On Monday I will pick up some of the UR canned food; he said she may prefer > that so we'll give it a try. Also said to cut her Clavamox to once a day to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jill I got online and read this thread after you'd already talked to the vet, so we are just sending eating purrs to Persia. Mike eats the Purina UR food too; it also comes in a semi-moist formula (in the little pouches), which Mike loves. Hill's (the Science Diet people) also makes a UR formula. My vet got me a bag for us to try for variety, but Mikey liked it less than the Purina. Please keep us posted how Persia's doing. ------ Krista > >> She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she > >> developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Jill Prissy had appetite issues arising from the effects of CRF towards the end of her illness, and to the extent they may be useful, I will offer up a few things I learned. One is that apparently cats can get "in a rut" if they don't eat for a while because they feel bad and their lack of appetite can extend beyond the original reason for them not eating. Vets will sometimes give cats an antibiotic that (and I forget why this works) acts to "jump start" their appettite. I don't think the antibiotic used for this is Clavamox but I may be wrong. Anyway, you may want to ask your vet about that treatment. Another thing I learned is that one way to increase their caloric intake is to put some vegetable oil in their food. Good luck. I'l bet Persi will get her appetite back once you coax her into eating *something*. Jill Purrs to Persia from my crew of felines and myself as well. Another thing you can try is meat baby food (ckicken, turkey, veal, beef, even a little ham). It's in the tiny little jars, usually hard to find, seems they bury them on the bottom shelves. Also, meat sticks for babies - my guys LOVE them! Good luck and purrs to you! JoJo http://home.comcast.net/~zookeepr/fosters.html > >> She was at 15 lbs. (she's a long cat) this time last Fall. Then she > >> developed a UTI in December and was down to about 12 lbs. Now she's [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Jill Another suggestion - try microwaving the UR food for 7-10 seconds on high. This is the only way I can get Brenna to eat food that is "wrong" somehow (texture, flavor, brand, whim). - Denise > Jill > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > JoJo > http://home.comcast.net/~zookeepr/fosters.html >Another suggestion - try microwaving the UR food for 7-10 seconds on >high. This is the only way I can get Brenna to eat food that is "wrong" >somehow (texture, flavor, brand, whim). > >- Denise I didn't think of it, but this works sometimes with Sammy, who is my resident picky cat. At first I thought it was just food at of the fridge that she didn't like, but I've learned that she likes a freash can warmed a little, too. She likes to lick the juices, and heating it seems to make things juicier and she's more apt to actually eat the food when it's warmed a little. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html Yeah, when the Evil 3 ate canned food we had to store leftovers in fridge, and microwaving cold canned food for them added to its appeal. I just kept sticking my finger in it to make sure (you gotta be careful) it wasn't too hot for little catmouths. Slightly warm is good. Warm as if for hoomins is bad for catmouths. : >Another suggestion - try microwaving the UR food for 7-10 seconds on : >high. This is the only way I can get Brenna to eat food that is "wrong" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : seems to make things juicier and she's more apt to actually eat the : food when it's warmed a little. <SNIP> > I know the vet will call me today, but wanted input from my pals here > :) > > Jill I think I would be concerned too. If I was in your position I'd probaly give in and let her have a little Fancy Feast once per day. Purrs that she soon feels better. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy, Milo & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > <SNIP> > > I know the vet will call me today, but wanted input from my pals here [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in and let her have a little Fancy Feast once per day. Purrs that she soon > feels better. I am a little late on the thread, but my Max has gone through several stages of going off his food, getting really skinny, and then rallying and start to eat again. He has a low protein diet, is on thyroid medication, and has a chronic intestinal affliction, plus an injured spine from abuse when he was a kitten before I found him. I found that if he was in one of his non-eating spells I would boil chicken, skim off the fat, and then give him chicken broth sometimes mixed in with bits of chicken. That has recently kept him going for four days. The main thing is to keep him hydrated, and to get calories down him if you can. Fresh chicken broth does it nicely. Then when he starts to be interested in food, I mix the bits of chicken with the food and spoon over several teaspoons of broth. He laps up the broth first and then eases into the food. If he still refuses to actually eat, I mix the chicken broth with some infant multi-cereal pablum and give it to him by eyedropper. So far this series of treatments works well with him and I have brought him through untold crises of this nature. He is now going into his 18th year. Junebug Congratulations, Junebug! You really are doing an outstanding job taking care of him. Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek <snip>> I have brought him through untold crises of this nature. He is now going > into his 18th year. > > Junebug You're a good kitty-mom, Junebug! Purrs for Max to continue to thrive under your loving care. Christine > > <SNIP> > > > I know the vet will call me today, but wanted input from my pals here [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Junebug I'd be concerned about the sudden weight loss. Not just because of what it might be a symptom of, but also because of what it might cause: fatty liver syndrome. Sorry to be alarmist, but it's something to be aware of and get checked out, the sooner the better. Sudden drastic weight loss in a cat can *cause* the cat's liver to be overwhelmed with fat and be unable to process it. Very serious illness. Lack of appetite is a symptom. Definitely give her the Fancy Feast. Anything she'll eat is good. You don't want her losing any more weight. Joyce > I'd be concerned about the sudden weight loss. Not just because of > what it might be a symptom of, but also because of what it might [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > overwhelmed with fat and be unable to process it. Very serious > illness. Lack of appetite is a symptom. That's what the vet said. And said to just get her to eat, regardless. > Definitely give her the Fancy Feast. Anything she'll eat is good. You > don't want her losing any more weight. > > Joyce Thanks, Joyce. Here are some Purrs to help Pesia along and some from Wilson too {{{{{{{Prrrr Prrrr Prrrrrr}}}}}}}} Jean.P. > > I'd be concerned about the sudden weight loss. Not just because of > > what it might be a symptom of, but also because of what it might [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks, Joyce. >I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening came/went >with no phone call. He'll probably call me today (Saturday). <snip> I was off line yesterday, so am late reading this. After finally getting to talk it over with TED, sounds like Persia is just resisiting eating healthy food. Hope she likes the new brand, once you can get some and try it out. I sort of went through the same thing here with my crew a while back when I decided to start buying better food. Little Bit and Sammy went on sort of semi-hunger strikes, They refused to eat the canned which which I'd prefer they eat, but ate the dry food. After a couple days they started eating the canned Iams. Unfortunately, I ran out and picked up some Fancy Feast to fill the gap one night, and they went right back to refusing the iams. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html I never have had trouble with the Evil 3 re refusing food for long (they must be related to the overweight German tomcat).....have now been feeding them a dry large-kibble sold-by-vets-only food that really has cleaned up their teeth plaque a lot (it ain't cheap either)... the transitional period consisted of about 2 days, from Iams weight-control dry and canned food. Their most devoted hoomin (the one who fills the nourishment bowls) does not back down for "hunger strikes".....but I would if they lasted very long. Guess these cats are just too piggish to hold out w/ will power over stomach power. Even Maluce, the pickiest, gives in after about a day and chows down. They don't get any hoomin-type food scraps, only their own food twice daily. : >I called the vet and asked for him to call me back but the evening came/went : >with no phone call. He'll probably call me today (Saturday). [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : Unfortunately, I ran out and picked up some Fancy Feast to fill the : gap one night, and they went right back to refusing the iams. >I know the vet will call me today, but wanted input from my pals here :) > >Jill Belated purrs for Persia and her worried Mom. I hope her appitite. Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= Waiting for inspiration. 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