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Yowie - 06 Apr 2004 02:48 GMT hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from joel
JP Hobbs - 06 Apr 2004 03:32 GMT Nice to hear it from the horses mouth Joel, rapt that they're both fine, and hope you are too, now back to the maternity ward, no rest for the wicked, especially from now on!!!! Love and Hugs{{{{{ all of you}}}}}} from Jean and Wilson. xxx for Cary
> hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 > oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums > fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from > joel Adrian - 06 Apr 2004 17:55 GMT > hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 > pounds 5 oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 > cms long mums fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at > 5:25pm bye for now from joel My heartfelt congratulations for you, Vicky and especialy Cary James Chapman.
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dsh-diva - 09 Apr 2004 16:42 GMT >> hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 >> pounds 5 oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 >> cms long mums fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at >> 5:25pm bye for now from joel Belated congratulations and welcoming purrs for Cary James!! Jennie, Xena and Callisto
>My heartfelt congratulations for you, Vicky and especialy Cary James >Chapman. Yowie - 07 Apr 2004 10:44 GMT > hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 > oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums > fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from > joel Got to the hospital at 3pm Sunday, to have the proglandin gel applied at 4pm, but there was a woman here who was very very sick after giving birth to her baby so the staff were rather busy and the gel didn't go on till 6pm.
At midnight, they checked my progress - nothing much happened and my cervix was still very posterior although the gel was working as well as could be expected considering where we were starting from. Another batch was applied, and I started to feel proper (but not severe) contractions at about 2am. At 6am, they took me to the labour ward. The obs came by at about 7:30am to burst the waters and put on the syntocin drip, and I was 1cm dilated at that time. By 9am, I was definatley in labour proper.
I was using gas quite well until about 12am, at which time I suddenly and violently ejected my stomach contents all over the floor. The nurse there was less than pleased (sh'es been the only nurse who I haven't found absolutely wonderful) but there was really nothing I could do - I couldn't actually get up and walk around by that point and you would have htought that they'd have provided a bucket or something close to thebed for such eventulities anyway. Besides, by that point I really didn't care about *anything* besides the contractions.
By 1 o'clock the contractions were too strong, and I chose to have an epidural. By the time it was in properly, i was *howling* in pain, I don't think I could have stood one more contraction like the last one I fully felt. Iwas so relieved, I cried, and then kissed the aneasthatist. Epidurals are God's gift to women, IMHO. I was 4cm diluted and the contractions were coming thick and fast as the epidural finally kicked into action.
At 3am, I went into transition, and there was a blissful 5 minutes of gas induced silliness before the really hard works started. While the pushing part (2nd stage of labour) didn't hurt in a physical sense, it was extremely intense and I pushed as hard as I could for what seemed like forever.
Cary's head did manage to come down a little, but he had such big head (38cm diameter) that he was stuck, and I just didn't have any energy left to push any harder. By 4:30pm, I was exhausted. There was no "push" left in me and I don't think I've ever cared less about anything and everything - including my own life - before (or after) that time. Joel and hte midwife did their very best to keep me encouraged and to keep my pushing, but Cary was well and truly stuck and all I could do was a perfunctury "push" when told to simply to keep people happy - they weren't making any more actual progress even though I was fully dilated and his head was in the birth canal.
The obs turned up at 5pm and tried to get Cary out using suction, but the suction wouldn't take because I had been pushing too hard for too long and his head had a great odema (?) so it was too soft and squishy to get hold.
My contractions were slowing down, I was exhausted, and Cary was showing signs of exhaustion and distress. The doc tried the forceps, and much to everyone's relief, he finally made his appearance at 5:25pm AEST on 5th April 2004. He weighe 4225g (9lb, 5oz) and was 52 cm long. His head was 38 cm in circumference (which is what was causing him to get stuck) I lost *alot* of blood and fluid and needed a large number of stitches (they won't tell me how many, but he used two full packets).
Joel did actually manage to cut the cord, despite the fact the fact that he was quite sure he'd faint. Joel was *very* emotional, and held Cary as soon as he as wiped down and wrapped. But I was still to exhausted to care and besides, I was also being stitched up on the birthing bed.
The resemblence between father and son is quite remarkable and I'll put up pictures and the mpeg of him less that 10 minutes after the birth when I get home from the hospital and have a few minutes onthe computer. Just like his father, he was born with brown eyes and a mop of dark borwn, spikey hair. His ears still have a tiny trace of the fetal hair (vernix?) on them, and I think its terribly cute. I cal him my little chicken for some reason.
2 days later, my stitches are still a little tender, but otherwise I"m pretty much back to feeling human. Cary is still having a little trouble breastfeeding, once he attaches properly he knows *exactly* what to do (ouch!) but still fusses alot and I can't get him on without the help of the midwife. But then again, my milk hasn't come in yet either, so things might improve when that happens, who knows. The hospital room is pretty comfortable, as I'm sure the bed would be if it was half a foot longer or if I was half a foot shorter. I have discovered the "joys" of free-to-air daytime TV and am now aware of why we pay so much for our pay TV each month, what utter mind rotting trash! In comparison, Jerry SPringer is actually *interesting* hisspit!
Apprantly Fluffy hasn't clued in on my abscence, but Shmogg has taken up vigil on my bed and only moved to service his digestive tract. I miss his purrs when I go to sleep at night and wonder how Cary, Shmogg and I will go sharing the same room at night (Fluffy sleeps in the garage so she won'tbe a problem in that regard). I can see alot of hallenges ahead, too, but you know, I reckon we'll do OK. Cary and his Dad have bonded really well (better than me actually) and, well, we'll just have to learn to be a family together.
Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes and congratulations, I'm sure thee purrs helped me get through the worst of the pain. It snot something I am currenlty looking at repearting, but even now, I know I'm forgetting just how bad the labour pains were. So maybe in a fe years there might just be a Yowlet 2. And perhaps this time, he or she may look a bit more like Mum!
Yowie
polonca12000 - 07 Apr 2004 22:26 GMT Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to write an update for us, Vicky. Please take good care of yourself and Cary. We are thinking of you and purring,
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> Got to the hospital at 3pm Sunday, to have the proglandin gel applied at > 4pm, but there was a woman here who was very very sick after giving birth to > her baby so the staff were rather busy and the gel didn't go on till 6pm. <snip
Cheryl - 08 Apr 2004 01:31 GMT "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> dumped this in news:40740e5e$0 $20219$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au on 07 Apr 2004:
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> So maybe in a fe years there might just be a > Yowlet 2. You need to keep and print this post of yours and put it in Cary's baby book. :) As you said, you're forgetting the birth and this is such a great text on the birth of your firstborn and you'll treasure it later. Oh, and you may get some guilt mileage later when he goes through the various "independent stages". lol Congrats again on the lil won.
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Takayuki - 08 Apr 2004 03:55 GMT >Apprantly Fluffy hasn't clued in on my abscence, but Shmogg has taken up >vigil on my bed and only moved to service his digestive tract. I miss his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >than me actually) and, well, we'll just have to learn to be a family >together. Thanks, that was really a fascinating account (many of you have probably figured out that I'm addicted to Discover Magazine's monthly "Vital Signs" feature). It sounds pretty scary! I'm glad that everything ended up so well. Hopefully, Shmoggleberry and Fluffy will adopt Cary. Or maybe Fluffy won't even notice that there's a new addition. :)
Marina - 08 Apr 2004 04:14 GMT <snip interesting account>
> Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes and congratulations, I'm sure > thee purrs helped me get through the worst of the pain. It snot something I > am currenlty looking at repearting, but even now, I know I'm forgetting just > how bad the labour pains were. So maybe in a fe years there might just be a > Yowlet 2. And perhaps this time, he or she may look a bit more like Mum! Congratulations again from Helsinki, Finland! Thank you for the step-by-step report, very interesting since this is the closest I will ever get to a birth (except my own, but I don't remember much about that ;). Glad to hear that Joel was able to carry out his duties as he was supposed to, I hear many Dad's can't. We are sending purrs now to Shmogg to not give up hope, he will see his Meowmie soon, and not only will she be home, she will bring him a new little slave to train! ;o)
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CATherine - 08 Apr 2004 04:37 GMT >> hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds <<<<<<snip>>>>>>
>Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes and congratulations, I'm sure >thee purrs helped me get through the worst of the pain. It snot something I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Yowie I am so glad you and the baby are ok after that ordeal. When my baby was born, an elderly nurse showed me how to hold the nipple between the first two fingers scissor style to flatten it so the baby could get hold of it. I was really, really full of colostrum and later on, milk.
Birthing today sure is different than when I did it in '67. I remember I received a spinal block and halfway through the birth i was screaming for gas. And my kid only weighed 6/11. But they still had to use forceps. And no fathers allowed in the birthing room. Afterwards I felt so good gassed up ;-) that I asked to see the afterbirth! Ugh! I wished I hadn't!
Is Joel's bonding going to extend to diaper changes? ;-D
Purrs, CATherine
Yowie - 13 Apr 2004 10:31 GMT > >> hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds > <<<<<<snip>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Is Joel's bonding going to extend to diaper changes? ;-D Yup, Joel has done his fair share of ooky nappy changes already. He's been a real tower of strength actually. Can't say enough good about the Daddy Bear
:-) Yowie
polonca12000 - 13 Apr 2004 21:42 GMT I'm so very glad to hear Joel is helping you. Please take care of yourself and Cary. Best wishes, purrs and gentle hugs for your family,
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> Yup, Joel has done his fair share of ooky nappy changes already. He's been a > real tower of strength actually. Can't say enough good about the Daddy Bear > :-) > > Yowie Christine Burel - 11 Apr 2004 19:38 GMT Wow, Yowie, thanks for the birthing info -- we sure were thinking of you! Epidurals are the best thing since sliced bread -- glad you were able to have Cary without having to do the C-section after all that labor. didn't want to mention it prior to your delivery but I was in labor for 36 hours and then had to have a C-section 'cause my son Alex was too big (he was 9 lbs. 1 oz.) and the epidural was a godsend! Hugs and purrs to you and your new family! love, Christine
> > hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds > 5 [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > Yowie m. L. Briggs - 12 Apr 2004 00:15 GMT >Wow, Yowie, thanks for the birthing info -- we sure were thinking of you! >Epidurals are the best thing since sliced bread -- glad you were able to [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] >> >> Yowie I have not told my experience either and won't. He was a 9 pounder and grew to be 6'3". Happy Easter wishes. Would like to see a picture. MLB
Cheryl - 12 Apr 2004 00:32 GMT > I have not told my experience either and won't. He was a 9 pounder > and grew to be 6'3". Happy Easter wishes. Would like to see a > picture. MLB Eric was 6 lbs, 12 oz and grew to be 6'4". I never wrote of his birth but unbeknownst to me, his dad did. I'm not sure why he never shared that with me but I read it with tears many years later. Then again, I was 16 when he was born and he was my babydoll. :) We even teethed together his first year.
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Jeanette - 12 Apr 2004 00:54 GMT > Eric was 6 lbs, 12 oz and grew to be 6'4". I never wrote of his birth but > unbeknownst to me, his dad did. I'm not sure why he never shared that with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Cheryl I didn't know how close you were in age to him, I'm sorry Cheryl, you must miss him so much. Although the pregnancy and birth threads are wonderful, and bring us joy, they are bound to bring up bittersweet memories for those who have lost children, and also an ache of envy in those who can never have children.
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Jeanette
Sherry - 12 Apr 2004 05:42 GMT >Eric was 6 lbs, 12 oz and grew to be 6'4". I never wrote of his birth but >unbeknownst to me, his dad did. I'm not sure why he never shared that with >me but I read it with tears many years later. Then again, I was 16 when he >was born and he was my babydoll. :) We even teethed together his first >year. Oh, Cheryl, that's really special. You and Eric were probably especially close because of that -- you grew up together in a sense-- and I bet you were great, energetic mom.
Sherry
John F. Eldredge - 12 Apr 2004 00:34 GMT >I have not told my experience either and won't. He was a 9 pounder >and grew to be 6'3". Happy Easter wishes. Would like to see a >picture. MLB One of my friends weighed 12 pounds at his full-term birth. Both of his children were born after about 8 months of pregnancy, and weighed as much as a normal 9-months baby. He stands about 6'2".
I was born after my Mom had been pregnant for only 6 1/2 months, and weighed just 2 1/2 pounds at birth. A couple of days after I was born, my weight dipped to only 2 pounds. The hospital reportedly had to cut the standard newborn diapers into fourths to make them fit me. Today I am 6'0", and about 280 pounds (trying to reduce the latter). So, I am not sure how much of a predictor birth weight is for how big an adult you end up as.
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Yoj - 12 Apr 2004 00:52 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > John F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com I have to agree with your conclusion, John. My late husband was a 7 months baby and weighed 4 pounds. He grew up to be 6'3" and his weight fluxuated around 250 pounds.
Joy
Sherry - 12 Apr 2004 05:38 GMT >I have to agree with your conclusion, John. My late husband was a 7 >months baby and weighed 4 pounds. He grew up to be 6'3" and his weight >fluxuated around 250 pounds. > >Joy My DH was also a four-pounder. His mom said he could fit in a shoebox. He's about 5'9 and 170 lbs. now. There's an old wives' tale that claims you can measure height on a child's 2nd birthday, double it, and that's the height they will be as a grownup. It turned out exactly right for my daughterr. I don't remember measuring my son though.
Sherry
Hopitus2 - 12 Apr 2004 04:42 GMT Hopitus was a 10-pounder, normal delivery (GP doc fractured my right clavicle to ease my entrance into this world - medicine was way more primitive then; today it would've been a C-section) and I'm not and have never been a small adult.
: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] : =xRAU : -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Seanette Blaylock - 12 Apr 2004 06:36 GMT John F. Eldredge <john@jfeldredge.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: yowies baby:
>>I have not told my experience either and won't. He was a 9 pounder >>and grew to be 6'3". Happy Easter wishes. Would like to see a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >So, I am not sure how much of a predictor birth weight is for how >big an adult you end up as. I was 9 lb. 3oz. at birth, and am now 5'4" [my current weight is classified information :-)].
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Helen Miles - 07 Apr 2004 15:33 GMT > hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 > oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums > fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from > joel Hi Joel (and Yowie, and Yowlett)
Quite apart from many congratulations, you do realise that your son has started his life out right, in that he's the same weight as a healthy adult cat?
Helen M
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Tanada - 08 Apr 2004 02:42 GMT > hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 > oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums > fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from > joel Do you get the feeling that Joel's a little overwhelmed? Congrats to you all, and please kiss Cary's toes for us.
Pam, Rob, and the NC nine
Kajikit - 09 Apr 2004 05:38 GMT Yowie had something important to tell us on Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:48:48 +1000:
>hi everyone just a short note from joel here the baby fine he was 9 pounds 5 >oz or from the metric system it was 4 kgs 225 grams aqnd 52 cms long mums >fine 2 ohh he was born yesterday the 5th of april at 5:25pm bye for now from >joel CCCCCC OOOOOO NNNN NN GGGGGGG CCCCCC OOOOOO NN NN NN GGGGGGG CC OO OO NN NN NN GG CC OO OO NN NN NN GG CC OO OO NN NN NN GG CC OO OO NN NN NN GG GGG CC OO OO NN NN NN GG GG CCCCCC OOOOOO NN NN NN GGGGGGG CCCCCC OOOOOO NN NNNN GGGGGGG
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Kajikit - 09 Apr 2004 05:40 GMT Kajikit had something important to tell us on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:38:41 +1000:
>Yowie had something important to tell us on Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:48:48 >+1000: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >RR RR AA AA TT SS >RR RR AA AA TT SSSSSSS Oh bother! I have no idea what happened to that carefully lined up piece of asci art... but something did!
Congratulations anyway Joel and Yowie :)
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