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Yoj - 04 Sep 2003 19:50 GMT I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, as well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response.
Joy
Will tears be a good enough answer? You take care of that end. OK? I just can't think of anything but spending time with Little Bit right now. We've been on the porch since about 5:30 this morning. She's still out there. It's now after 9 am. Didn't realize it had been that long that we'd been out there. I hate to do it to her, but I have to bring her in and get her to drink at the bathroom faucet. That's the only place she drinks now. Maybe once in a while she will drink at the drinking fountain that I bought for her. I was planning on buying her a new one soon. This one is a pain to use. But she loved it so much. She had even quit drinking from the faucets !!! Gotta go get her. It will break her heart as that is the ONLY place that she is even alert at all. She still shuts me out even out there, but she loves watching the birds and everything that moves.... just being outside. If God takes her Home, and I believe that He does that for His animal kingdom (I'll explain sometime why. The cat ng would like to hear it I'm sure).... anyway if God takes her Home, she is going to LOVE Rainbow Bridge and all it leads to. I've asked her to promise me that she will check the Rainbow Bridge often cuz I'm coming there to meet her one day. Not too soon, I hope. But whenever it is I'm going to look for her right away. Then I'm going to look for Rick !!!!
Gotta get off here and go get my baby. It is so sad to watch her. My vet said that she has such a very small portion of ONE kidney left and considering that, more fluid in her body would only aggravate her discomfort. He loves animals dearly and has even taken them home with him and kept 24 hour watch until he either saved them or lost them. He's dedicated more than any vet I've ever found. And his costs are not inflated like some of the bigger vet clinics that I've gone to in the past. He's letting me make payments as he knows I have NO money. Thank God for that. Not that I begrudge one cent for Little Bit. I'd pay the rest of my life to pay the bill off if it would save her. We talked at length of all the options and he said we would be prolonging her discomfort with any of them. I'm giving her Clavamox I think it is for the infection and he gave her a big dose of..... can't think of it. They give the injections to arthritis suffers etc. Anyway he said he's seen it help dogs. I said go ahead. Anything that might help or even help keep her discomfort down. I can see it in her eyes, Joy. I've taken care of a LOT, a whole LOT of cats that were terminal. They know when to give up and you can see it in their eyes. It's a hollow look. Nothing seems to penetrate. Not even her beloved BlueBird gets through to her. It hurts so badly. I know some of the cat people think I should try the IV's etc. but I can't bear to do something that would cause her more pain etc. or prolong it. I'm trusting my vet and much more than that, God. I turned it over to Him as we sat at the vet's the other day. I even asked Him to intervene for me on Little Bit's behalf. I asked if it were possible and IF it were His will, would he save her. I don't want her saved only to live an unhappy life. You know what I mean. You know how much I love her. I trust God with her life completely. If she can and should be saved, He WILL do it for me. I believe that with all my heart. I'm living proof of that very love of God !!!!!!!!! Ten years past when the doctors said there is no hope. We can do no more for you. Maybe a week, but no longer......... and here I am living what I consider a full, happy and content life 10 years later. So I trust Him. Try to explain to the group. I know some will not understand. But I do and that's all Little Bit needs. Gotta go. I'm fading here. Not getting much sleep cuz I hate to give up any time with her just in case. BTW, please thank those two ladies by e-mail for me. I just can't do it. Thanks once AGAIN for your help.
BlueBird
Bev - 04 Sep 2003 20:29 GMT > I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, as > well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > BlueBird This is so sad, my love and prayers are on their way.
xx Bev
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Yoj - 07 Sep 2003 08:29 GMT > This is so sad, my love and prayers are on their way. > > xx Bev > -- > God may have created man before woman but there is always a rough draft > before the masterpiece. You people make me cry, and I've never even met LittleBit! You are everything BlueBird says you are - the best! I am sending all your messages to her, and she is saving them to read later. She feels they will be very comforting.
Yesterday a friend brought BlueBird some fish, and LittleBit got excited and actually ate quite a bit of it. She hasn't been eating, and has mostly been acting as though she was - and wanted to be - alone. That really tore BB up, because LittleBit had always followed her around from room to room, and needed to be close to her all the time. BB had a neighbor get some more fish, and LittleBit ate that today, and has been acting almost like her old self. BB knows the improvement isn't permanent, but it is cheering just the same.
Joy
polonca12000 - 07 Sep 2003 18:01 GMT I'm so glad to hear LittleBit is enjoying the fish. Best wishes and purrs,
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<snip>> Yesterday a friend brought BlueBird some fish, and LittleBit got excited
> and actually ate quite a bit of it. Steve Touchstone - 07 Sep 2003 20:48 GMT >> This is so sad, my love and prayers are on their way. >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Joy So glad that Bluebird has something that Little Bit will eat.
Purrs continuing from my Little Bit, Sammy, and Rocky
LOL - 08 Sep 2003 02:31 GMT > > This is so sad, my love and prayers are on their way. > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joy I am glad that BlueBird and Little Bit have had some relief, even if only temporary. We are still sending purrs for a miracle, and for peace of mind in whatever may happen.
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polonca12000 - 04 Sep 2003 21:59 GMT Hoping for a miracle that would save Little Bit. Hugs to BB and Joy,
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> I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, as > well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just can't think of anything but spending time with Little Bit right > now. <snip Yowie - 04 Sep 2003 22:54 GMT Dunno what else to say to Bluebird, besides to offer comfort and friendship. All circumstances are different, and different people make different decisions, but that doesn't mean they aren't the best possible decisions that they can make for their beloved pets if they are made with Love. Let Love guide her, and she will always do the right thing.
Hugs to Bluebird and scritches to Littlebit.
Yowie
fuga =^o^= - 05 Sep 2003 01:46 GMT Hugs to Bluebird and littlebit. I hope they have some special times over the next few days and that littlebit starts to feel a little more comfortable and not so much pain.
Purrs,
fuga
Christine Burel - 05 Sep 2003 00:10 GMT This moved me to tears -- major hugs for Bluebird from us. We'll be thinking of her and please let her know that she and Little Bit are loved here and we will send purrayers for Little Bit's comfort and safe journey when the time comes. Christine, Omar, Midnight, Oreo, Robin & Tucker
> I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, as > well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > BlueBird bewtifulfreak - 05 Sep 2003 02:59 GMT > I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, > as well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response. <snip>
I feel so much for what BlueBird is going through, but as far as I'm concerned, she's doing the right thing in trusting her instincts and going on faith and the guidance of a caring vet. This must be so painful, but I think she's handling things very well. And as she said, what is meant to be will be, just as in her own case. BlueBird, if you get this, I just want you to know that you and Little Bit have my prayers and warmest thoughts. All we can ask is that, whatever happens, she not suffer too much, and it sounds like you are doing everything you can to see that this is the case. You sound like such a caring and strong person, with all you've been through; bless you for being such a good friend to Little Bit and doing all the best for her.
Healing hugs to both of you, Ann
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JHBennett - 05 Sep 2003 12:33 GMT Joy, This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the world's greatest dog to kidney failure. However, one thing that came up, which we didn't have time to pursue, was that the state university vet. school was doing organ transplants. It is not beyone the realm of the possible that Little Bit could receive a healhy kidney from another cat. From the sound of things, Bluebird will need an assist to pull it off, and Little Bit could use some luck--which she's probably due, considering things haven't been going her way. Hope for the best, Jack
> I sent BlueBird many of your messages of sympathy and encouragement, as > well as a couple I received by e-mail. This was her response. > > Joy EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 05 Sep 2003 19:23 GMT > Joy, > This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Little Bit could use some luck--which she's probably due, considering things > haven't been going her way. Well, whether one is willing to put another creature through that would depend upon how one regards organ transplants for HUMANS! (Personally, until they develop the ability to clone organs in a tank, independent of other living creatures, I regard it as a form of cannbalism, and want none of it!) Life is a fatal disease - we all have to die of something, sometime, and postponing demise by extreme methods seems rather pointless (IMO, of course). I often wish we humans had the choice for ourselves that we have for our terminally ill companion animals.
JHBennett - 05 Sep 2003 20:39 GMT > > Joy, > > This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pointless (IMO, of course). I often wish we humans had the choice for > ourselves that we have for our terminally ill companion animals. I believe there would be a lengthy list of organ recipients who would take issue with you. Taking one kidney from a donor wouldn't necessairly harm that animal, depending on what the state of the art is, of course. It is differences of opinion which prevent men from fighting to the death for the affection of the same woman, you know ;-) Cheers, Jack
Tanada - 05 Sep 2003 23:04 GMT > Well, whether one is willing to put another creature through that would > depend upon how one regards organ transplants for HUMANS! (Personally, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pointless (IMO, of course). I often wish we humans had the choice for > ourselves that we have for our terminally ill companion animals. We're going to have to agree to disagree here regarding organ transplants, Evelyn. Yes, we're all going to die eventually, but, if my kidney could help someone else, I'd gladly give it. I've seen kidney donations give new life to others first hand, and am amazed how so "little" a thing can do so much.
I do agree with you regarding Euthanasia. My only fear about dying is that I may have to have a long prolonged and painful death. I don't want that for any one I care about.
Pam S.
Karen Chuplis - 05 Sep 2003 19:44 GMT > Joy, > This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Hope for the best, > Jack Unfortunately, kidney transplants have not been shown to be terribly successful and one must also be able to care for the donor as well as the patient. It is not a suggested treatment at this time for cats :(
Karen
JHBennett - 05 Sep 2003 20:50 GMT > > Joy, > > This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Karen Not the best news either, Karen. Little Bit's situation, and I'd offer Bluebird's suffering is greater, seems such that a long shot might be warranted and I had to make the offering, since nobody had mentioned transplants. Sounds as though you know something of the subject, so you've raised my curiosity. Given that a healthy cat was used for a donor, what exceptional care would be required for it, as you seem to imply? Cheers, Jack
Karen Chuplis - 05 Sep 2003 21:20 GMT > > > Joy, > > > This kind of thing simply tears me up. Long sad story, but we lost the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Cheers, > Jack Oh, I don't think exceptional care is needed, but many people are simply not in a position to add a cat to their household and the whole question is then rife with ethical questions. Rather like people who have babies for marrow transplant hopes. It can be difficult to integrate full grown cats in the best of situations, I can't imagine doing it when one is extremely ill. I think, personally, it would be difficult at best and perhaps not healthy then in the end for either cat. Stress is *so* hard on cats who are healthy let alone cats that are sick. I'd have to really consider it only worth it for the cats if the transplants had an 80% success rate or something with a really good quality of life return, and so far, this is not the case.
Karen
Victor M. Martinez - 05 Sep 2003 21:27 GMT >Unfortunately, kidney transplants have not been shown to be terribly >successful and one must also be able to care for the donor as well as the >patient. It is not a suggested treatment at this time for cats :( I just read an article on either Catnip or Cat Watch about renal transplants. It seems to be a real option for folks who live near a good feline hospital (like Tufts or Cornell). The thing I didn't like one bit is that they get the donor cats from "research colonies". The fact that these "research colonies" exist makes my skin curl. I really do not support animal testing, even if that means my babies would not benefit from that research.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 06 Sep 2003 04:57 GMT > >Unfortunately, kidney transplants have not been shown to be terribly > >successful and one must also be able to care for the donor as well as the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > colonies" exist makes my skin curl. I really do not support animal testing, > even if that means my babies would not benefit from that research. I'm with you, Victor! Theoretically, if cloning is possible, surely cloning of organs from the recipient's own cells must be a possibility, somewhere in the future. If for humans, why not for cats, dogs or whatever?
> -- > Victor M. Martinez > martiv@FAKE.che.utexas.edu > http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv Tanada - 05 Sep 2003 22:58 GMT > I'm trusting my vet and much > more than that, God. I turned it over to Him as we sat at the vet's the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > with her just in case. BTW, please thank those two ladies by e-mail for > me. I just can't do it. Thanks once AGAIN for your help. Purrs and good thoughts continuing for Bluebird and Little Bit. She's a wise woman and will do what is right for her and for Little Bit.
Pam, Rob, and the NC nine
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