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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2004Angry and Depressed
I am so angry and depressed. Yesterday morning, at 7 am, that is a LOUD knock on our door. It is our awful neighbor, the one who kept her cat chained up indoors for years and let it slowly die from feleuk in her home :-( The one who kept her dog chained up outside for days without adequate anything, until I called the Humane Society on her. The one who lately complained to the landlord (for the second time) about me leaving out food and water dishes for stray cats. That one. She is with a man from across the street, who claims Sadie, the white kitten, is his. He describes her, and DH has no choice but to go get her and return her to him. He has three cats, none of them fixed. The kitten belongs to his other white cat. I have seen his Russian Blue on my porch, standing on ice, looking sick and miserable, during the coldest night of this winter. When this kitten and the others were born, our former neighbors talked to them and tried to help when mama cat didn't nurse. Would they take cat and kittens to vet? No. We have tried nicely to explain to them that, on this busy street, they need to keep the cats indoors. Do they? No. I try to do the right thing, thinking this kitten is a stray, only to find out she belongs to irresponsible owners. And I have no choice but to return her. One day, I expect to see her dead in the street. I am heartsick. And angry. My awful neighbor knows DH works second shift. She didn't have to wake us up at 7 am. She didn't have to pound so loud on the door, loud enough the entire neighborhood probably heard her. She had no business being on my porch in the first place, saying to the man (as DH overheard), "She fancies herself a rescuer, but doesn't even put food in the dish". !? Yeah, it was empty, because the strays and wanderers had eaten it when I put it out that early morning at 4 am. And isn't she the one complaining about me putting food out in the first place? I am beginning to hate my neighborhood. I am sick of this particular abusive, neglectful neighbor. I am tired of irresponsible cat owners. And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. A very tired and depressed, Ginger-lyn No cluons were harmed when Ginger-lyn Summer! said > I am so angry and depressed. [evil animal-neglecting b*st*rd neighbor] <Godfather> Scratches cheek in a very Marlo Brandon-like manner. You want that the RPCA mafia should pay a visit? I think we can arrange for the head of a vole to be placed at the foot of her bed... </Godfather> Hugs and Purrs, Mark  SignatureProof of Sanity Forged Upon Request > No cluons were harmed when Ginger-lyn Summer! said > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > arrange for the head of a vole to be placed at the foot of her bed... > </Godfather> How fast do you think we can import Waffles and Maya? Pam S. who will donate some "slightly" <G> used cat litter if it will help >> You want that the RPCA mafia should pay a visit? I think we can >> arrange for the head of a vole to be placed at the foot of her bed... >> </Godfather> > >How fast do you think we can import Waffles and Maya? How about head of the hoomin who mistreats cats - gnawed off at the neck and deposited where the other twerp hoomin finds it... Waffles (not purring....) --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ >>>You want that the RPCA mafia should pay a visit? I think we can >>>arrange for the head of a vole to be placed at the foot of her bed... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Waffles (not purring....) You go Kitten!! I, for one, will cheer you on. Pine Cone offers assistance in transportation and helping hide the body, and Rob also offers encouragement. He HATES animal abusers. Pam S. and the NC nine yowling for you > And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, > and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. > > A very tired and depressed, > > Ginger-lyn Perhaps if you offered to buy Sadie for a modest fee? Say, $15. If they really don't care, they'll scoff up the $$ and let you take care of the sweet baby. Jill > > And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, > > and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jill Hey, that's a thought! Ginger-lynn, ask your neighbor how much she wants for Sadie. I'm sure we can all contribute, hell I'll send you $20 towards buying her if some other people can help. How about it folks? Lydia (Jazz's mama) >>> And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, >>> and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > folks? > Lydia (Jazz's mama) Absolutely!!! Anything to make little Sadie's life happier and Ginger-Lynn not sad and depressed. Jill "lrulan" <lrulan@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Angry and Depressed: >> Perhaps if you offered to buy Sadie for a modest fee? Say, $15. If they >> really don't care, they'll scoff up the $$ and let you take care of the >> sweet baby. >Hey, that's a thought! Ginger-lynn, ask your neighbor how much she wants for >Sadie. I'm sure we can all contribute, hell I'll send you $20 towards buying >her if some other people can help. How about it folks? What worries me here is that this bimbo would turn right around, get another cat [doesn't she already have several more?], and turn this into a business. Maybe I'm just cynical today [doing tax returns can have that effect on a person]. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >Hey, that's a thought! Ginger-lynn, ask your neighbor how much she wants for >Sadie. I'm sure we can all contribute, hell I'll send you $20 towards buying >her if some other people can help. How about it folks? >Lydia (Jazz's mama) Put me down for $25. Just e-mail me where to send it. Sherry >Hey, that's a thought! Ginger-lynn, ask your neighbor how much she wants for >Sadie. I'm sure we can all contribute, hell I'll send you $20 towards buying >her if some other people can help. How about it folks? >Lydia (Jazz's mama) l{{{{{{Group}}}}}}} You guys are all so wonderful, I hope you know that! I may try that, but I am guessing he will not go for it (it's the guy across the street that owns the cats; the awful abuser is a woman on this side of the street). DH talked extensively to the guy when he returned Sadie, and (men being as they are!) didn't tell me all the details until yesterday. Apparently, Sadie is the daughter of another white cat they have, and the granddaughter of their third cat, a Russian Blue-Siamese mix. Yes, they have allowed two generations of cats to breed :-( When I first saw Sadie's mom last year, I went over and gave my brochure to the woman there (I put together a brochure that has some very, very basic info about cat care, and a listing of low-cost spay/neuter and vaccination programs -- I hand it out to people when I see potential problems). Obviously, this family ignored my information :-( The grandfather told DH they *were* going to get them spayed, but they were remodeling the vet clinic (yeah, right.). Grandma is pregnant again :-( He claims they will get her spayed after the kittens are born. I'm not betting on it. He mentioned to my husband that they probably would sell Grandma's kittens, but I think they want to keep Sadie (whose real name is Spot, apparently). I can try to make an offer, or maybe make an offer to have all of them spayed (and that I could use help on!), but I'm not sure he'll go for it. And of course, I can't keep Sadie, but would love to find her a good home; she is *such* a sweetheart. I am so afraid I will see her dead in the street one day soon :-( Ginger-lyn (snipped) > I can try to make an offer, or maybe make an offer to have all of them > spayed (and that I could use help on!), but I'm not sure he'll go for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ginger-lyn ((((Ginger-lyn)))) We'll keep purring for Sadie/Spot to have a long and happy life, despite the circumstances. If you *can* work something out with the neighbor, please do let us know. I know I would love to contribute to the effort to improve the odds for these kitties. ------ Krista Ginger-lynn, I am so very sorry that this has happened to you and to Sadie. We shall send purrs that the situation resolves itself to for the very best for Sadie. Purrs and hugs on the way for you. Julie, Hobbes, Selena and Lacey Hugs, Ginger-lyn. Christine > >Hey, that's a thought! Ginger-lynn, ask your neighbor how much she wants for > >Sadie. I'm sure we can all contribute, hell I'll send you $20 towards buying [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Ginger-lyn >> And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, >> and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Jill Sorry, guess I'm still royally p*ssed at my own neighbors. I sent off my first reply without even thinking to send purrs for Sadie. It sure would be nice if you could convince YOUR nitwit neighbors to let you have or buy Sadie. Unfortunately, this won't help in the long run if those neighbors refuse to neuter. In my case, the neighbors have the idea that it's somehow cruel to neuter. They were upset when I suggested it - money wasn't an issue, since we have a non-profit group that does low cost neuters and I offered to help pay. Heck, it only costs $18 to neuter a tom. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > > And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, > > and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > really don't care, they'll scoff up the $$ and let you take care of the > sweet baby. Yes, that does sound like a good idea. And could you maybe also kidnap (catnap?) their other cats and have them fixed? I'm sure people would contribute to that cause. Purrs for you and Sadie, it's a tough situation. -- Britta Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Ginger-lynn, I'm sorry you are angry and depressed. You have done all you can possibly do. I'm sorry your neighbor is such a sh.t. If you can't move out of the neighborhood, there really isn't much you can do more than what you have. I know that isn't much consolation, but we know you have tried and God knows you have tried. Please don't get yourself sick over this. It's a sad situation, but you have to take care of yourself too. My main concern is right now is you. Please know you are in my thoughts and prayers, and all the little kitties and dogs that live in your part of the world. God always remembers. Lydia SignatureIrulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time > I am so angry and depressed. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Ginger-lyn >I am so angry and depressed. <Snip sad, depressing and maddening story> I know exactly how you're feeling, having gone through the same thing with a neighbor. Happily, as far as I know I only have one such neighbor, and several great neighbors. Unfortunately, they have at least one more cat, an unspayed female, so I won't be surprised to see kittens. BTW, these are the nitwit owners of Black Tom, and Tom still hasn't come around. Looks more and more like he has made the trip to the RB. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, >and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. > >A very tired and depressed, > >Ginger-lyn Ginger-lyn, I know your frustration, and I am so sorry. You are such a kind-hearted person. I stole a cat once. It was unethical, illegal and underhanded. But I did it. I couldn't bear to see what was most assuredly going to happen down the road. I wish I had some magic words for you. I'll send all the purrs we have though. Sherry > I stole a cat once. It was unethical, illegal and underhanded. Illegal, yes; underhanded, perhaps. But definitely not unethical. If you really felt it was unethical, I'll bet you wouldn't have done it. It sounds to me like it was the most ethical thing you could do under those circumstances. And that's what ethics are about - weighing the pros and cons and making the best decision you can. Sometimes you have to break a law because the law itself is wrong. Joyce > > I stole a cat once. It was unethical, illegal and underhanded. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Joyce What's sad, and I think this is probably true in Ginger-lyn's case, is that the neglectful owners really don't care a flip about the cat itself. They just care about *winning* and throwing their weight around and the cat is just a pawn in all of it. When the situtation comes down to money, all that devotion to their cat fizzles out quick. The lady I stole the cat from threatened to sue. I was lucky that one of our board members is a lawyer herself and she sort of challenged her to do just that, and we'd just take the whole thing to court, photos of the condition the cat was in and all.. We never heard from her again. Sherry > What's sad, and I think this is probably true in Ginger-lyn's case, > is that the neglectful owners really don't care a flip about the > cat itself. They just care about *winning* and throwing their > weight around and the cat is just a pawn in all of it. Or else it's about possessiveness and ownership. You know, how *dare* you take their *property*? I agree they care much more about that than they do about the cat. > The lady I stole the cat from threatened to > sue. I was lucky that one of our board members is a lawyer > herself and she sort of challenged her to do just that, and we'd > just take the whole thing to court, photos of the condition the > cat was in and all.. We never heard from her again. Ha. That tells the whole story, doesn't it? Joyce >I am so angry and depressed. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >Ginger-lyn Perhaps you could threaten her with an harrassment suit if she continues to bother you. BTW I'll send you some money too if you can purchase the kitten. >I am so angry and depressed. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Ginger-lyn I wish you could move to another neighborhood with nice, responsible people. But I feel so sorry for all the kitties, wild and owned, in your present neighborhood. Poor Sadie. I am afraid i would have said,"White kitten? I haven't seen a white kitten"!! But now all we can do is pray and purr for all the kitties there. And you need some major hugs. You are in my thoughts and prayers and purrs. CATherine > I am so angry and depressed. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Ginger-lyn I would feel exactly as you do in your situation. I have never had the misfortune of living near neighbors like the ones you describe. The adjective that pops to mind to describe your neighbors is "trash", with all the implications that term carries when applied to people. It seems so cruel that those people insist on having cats so that they can mistreat and ignore them. > I am so angry and depressed. I am so sorry, for Sadie, the other cats and for you. I wish there was something I could do to help, but all I can do is send purrs and soothing vibes. We're hoping these people get what they deserve, one way or the other. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki > I am beginning to hate my neighborhood. I am sick of this particular > abusive, neglectful neighbor. I am tired of irresponsible cat owners. > > And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, > and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. Sweetie, I wish I could cure your neighborhood for you. I think that the only thing you can try to do, is buy the kitty, if the person will sell her. Maybe if people donated enough money to off set part of the spay cost, this person will get at least the females spayed? I can't give a definite, only you know the real situation over there. Purrs, hugs, and anti depression thoughts from all of us here for you and little Sadie. Pam, Rob, and the NC nine >I think that >the only thing you can try to do, is buy the kitty, if the person will >sell her. If the fund is going, I can spare a little bit. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ > >I think that > >the only thing you can try to do, is buy the kitty, if the person will > >sell her. > > If the fund is going, I can spare a little bit. We haven't heard from Sherry about what she thinks of the idea of purchasing Sadie from her "humans", so the fund hasn't started yet. Jazz's mama > Cheers, helen s > > --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ >We haven't heard from Sherry about what she thinks of the idea of purchasing >Sadie from her "humans", so the fund hasn't started yet. >Jazz's mama Oh, it's not me. It's Ginger-lyn. Although my budget could certainnly use a "fund" from somewhere...:-) I think it's a great idea and will certainly contribute if Ginger-lyn thinks she can swing a deal. Sherry I have a cheaper idea...akin to Sherry's catjacking tactics of lore.... I somehow got the idea you, like me, don't let your cats go outside. Next time you see this kitten out in the rain, cold, on your doorstep or whatever, just take her inside....keep your lip zipped...and next time the bruja vieja (old witch) bangs on your door, just get in her face and snarl, "What cat?! Get your ******** out of here!". Let's say your neighbors are not the salt of the earth....neither are mine: substance abusers around here; but they don't push me around. There is no need to be a goodnatured doormat. : >We haven't heard from Sherry about what she thinks of the idea of purchasing : >Sadie from her "humans", so the fund hasn't started yet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : : Sherry >Next time you see this kitten out in the >rain, cold, on your doorstep or whatever, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >me around. There is no need to be a >goodnatured doormat. <APPLAUSE> Another thing that could be done is to get the cats fixed if they are running loose and easily captured. TNR for domestics! Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > >We haven't heard from Sherry about what she thinks of the idea of purchasing > >Sadie from her "humans", so the fund hasn't started yet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherry Sorry, my mistake. Yes, it was Ginger-lynn. My alzheimer's must be acting up again <g> Jazz's mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time > Sorry, my mistake. Yes, it was Ginger-lynn. My alzheimer's must be acting up > again <g> > Jazz's mama My MIL calls it "Old-timer's" disease Pam S. who suffers from "Old-timers" disease from time to time > >We haven't heard from Sherry about what she thinks of the idea of purchasing > >Sadie from her "humans", so the fund hasn't started yet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherry I will be glad to contribute too, if the neighbor is willing. (I forgot to say this in my post to this thread last night, grrr) Otherwise, we can contribute plenty of litter that's past its prime. ------ Krista > I am so angry and depressed. > >(snipped) > And I am so sorry for little Sadie, and the life that she will have, > and that I couldn't change that for her and make it better. > > A very tired and depressed, > > Ginger-lyn ((((((Ginger-lyn)))))) We are sending purrs to you and to Sadie; I know it doesn't make you feel any better to point out that you've done your best, though it's true. All I can think to do is move, and sneak Sadie with you when you go. I do hope you can find a solution to this neighbor situation; it truly sucks. ------ Krista So very sorry to hear this, Ginger-lyn. Hugs and purrs, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > I am so angry and depressed. > > Yesterday morning, at 7 am, that is a LOUD knock on our door. <snip > I am so angry and depressed. <SNIP> Just reading this makes angry and sad as well. Purrs for you and Sadie. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy, Milo & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > I am so angry and depressed. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Ginger-lyn sending you some comforting purrs and hugs, Brenda > I am so angry and depressed. <snipped sad story> {{{{{{{{{{HUGS GINGER LYN}}}}}}}}}}}} Helen M -- >I try to do the right thing, thinking this >kitten is a stray, only to find out she >belongs to irresponsible owners. And I >have no choice but to return her. One >day, I expect to see her dead in the street. >I am heartsick. I would not give a kitten to someone who claims it's theirs unless they can provide proof of ownership, preferably via photos and vet records. I'm not trying to be harsh here, but knowing what the kitten would be going back to, I would put up a fight and not surrender the cat unless I was directed by law enforcement or a court to do so. You do have an option though. It seems that these cats go outside and are unsupervised. I would make sure the kitten and any other cats you can get your hands on "disappear." This would take some planning and time, but IMNSHO this is a worthwhile endeavor and the welfare of the cats far exceeds anything regarding the so-called owner. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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