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Okay, so Mike's *not* feeling better

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LOL - 02 Mar 2004 05:43 GMT
We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
awfully droopy; he wouldn't eat, he threw up several times, and all he
wanted to do was curl up in a room by himself.  It got worse all day.
These are all side effects of Tapazole, but of course they are also
symptoms of any number of things.  Anyway, we skipped last night's and
this morning's doses (he gets it 3 times per day) and at lunch he'd
perked up somewhat.  Our TED was out of the office all day on large
animal calls, but we talked to him on his cell phone and he said give
it at least 48 hours off the Tapazole and let him know how Mike's
doing, or if not better bring him in.  Either way, we'd try again with
a lower dose after 48 to 72 hours.

We get home at 5:00 to a frantic kitty.  Not the same as before
starting the Tapazole; no pacing or spraying, but he is *very* anxious
and can't settle down, and is doing things he *never* does.  For just
one example, the only time he's been able to sleep since 5:00 (it's
now 12:40 am) was for about an hour in my lap.  Mike is NOT a lap cat,
and I can count the times he's wanted to curl up and be held for any
length of time.  They've always been times of extreme stress (the day
we moved to a new house) or when he's felt just absolutely awful.
Tonight he's very anxious and clingy, climbing my leg when I'm
standing and leaping into my lap as soon as I sit down.  He's
ordinarily too much of a tough guy to cling to mom for reassurance -
it only happens when something's really wrong.  Right now he's curled
up on the couch beside me - he never does that either, but prefers his
own chair, tyvm.  He's not asleep, but he is at least somewhat
relaxed.

He is very, very anxious, and his eyes are red.  His eyelids and the
skin where some cats get "tear marks" is red and irritated-looking.
I've never seen this before, and have no idea what it means.  We
didn't tell TED about the eyes, as they weren't yet like that at the
time of the phone conversation.

I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
business and I will stand in the lobby screaming FIX MY BABY!!! until
he does.  Please wish us luck.

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Krista
Yoj - 02 Mar 2004 06:07 GMT
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> ------
> Krista

Purrs and best wishes!  I hope he's better in the morning, and I hope he
can be helped - quickly.

Joy
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:58 GMT
> Purrs and best wishes!  I hope he's better in the morning, and I hope he
> can be helped - quickly.
>
> Joy

Thanks, Joy.  We have now started a lower dose of the same meds, and I
am hopeful that he will feel better soon.

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Krista
Marina - 02 Mar 2004 06:22 GMT
"LOL" <arbitrarilyyours@hotmail.com> wrote
<snippetty>

> I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
> to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
> the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
> business and I will stand in the lobby screaming FIX MY BABY!!! until
> he does.  Please wish us luck.

I'm so sorry you are having such trouble with Mike's dosis. We are sending
many many purrs that you and TED find the right balance for him. Nikki
becomes very clingy each time she's refused to take her medicine, but I've
never seen the red-eye thing. {{{{Krista}}}}

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LOL - 03 Mar 2004 04:52 GMT
> I'm so sorry you are having such trouble with Mike's dosis. We are sending
> many many purrs that you and TED find the right balance for him. Nikki
> becomes very clingy each time she's refused to take her medicine, but I've
> never seen the red-eye thing. {{{{Krista}}}}

Thanks, Marina.  It's endearing in a way that whenever Mike is sick or
scared, he *Wants His Mommy* but it is also a strong indicator that
something is really wrong.  He has hardly been out of my lap for over
24 hours (I did stay home from the office today to soothe the cat) and
is obviously miserable.  When he wakes up and gets down for water,
litterbox, etc., he's all anxious and weirded out until I pick him up
and put him back in my lap, and then he'll settle right back down.
But we re-started the Tapazole tonight at 2/3 of the former dose (per
TED) and I am hoping he'll be better by morning.  Sitting immobile
with a sick cat in my lap is a little wearing (though I am getting a a
lot of reading done <g>), and I need to go to work tomorrow.

TED says that the redness is a not uncommon effect of hyperthyroid.
Odd, yes?  I am assuming it will go away as the thyroid levels even
out, though I didn't think to ask.

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Krista
lrulan - 02 Mar 2004 07:30 GMT
We will keep purring and praying for Mikey. Please keep us updated.
Jazz & his mama

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> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> ------
> Krista
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:02 GMT
> We will keep purring and praying for Mikey. Please keep us updated.
> Jazz & his mama

Thank you.  We have now started a lower dose of his meds, and have
high hopes that he'll feel better by tomorrow.

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Krista
Helen Wheels - 02 Mar 2004 07:44 GMT
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> doing, or if not better bring him in.  Either way, we'd try again with
> a lower dose after 48 to 72 hours.

...

Purrs for little Mikey - let's hope he's feeling better soon.
Helen Wheels
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:04 GMT
> Purrs for little Mikey - let's hope he's feeling better soon.
> Helen Wheels

Thanks for the purrs, Helen.  We've started a lower dose of his meds,
and hope he'll feel better soon.

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Krista
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 02 Mar 2004 08:48 GMT
Many continued purrs & good wishes for Mike

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LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:06 GMT
> Many continued purrs & good wishes for Mike
>
> helen s

Thanks, Helen.
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Krista
Takayuki - 02 Mar 2004 09:01 GMT
>I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
>cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
>to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
>the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
>business and I will stand in the lobby screaming FIX MY BABY!!! until
>he does.  Please wish us luck.

Betty is sending purrs that TED will be able to fix up Mike so that
he'll be back to his happy self.
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:08 GMT
> Betty is sending purrs that TED will be able to fix up Mike so that
> he'll be back to his happy self.

Please thank Betty for her purrs; we have high hopes that Our Mike
will be back in business soon.

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Krista
Karen Chuplis - 02 Mar 2004 12:25 GMT
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> ------
> Krista

Aww. Many purrs you find the right dosage soon. I know it sometimes takes
several adjustments. Hang in there.

((((Hugs)))))
Karen
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:09 GMT
> Aww. Many purrs you find the right dosage soon. I know it sometimes takes
> several adjustments. Hang in there.
>
> ((((Hugs)))))
> Karen

Thanks, Karen - we're working on it.  :-)
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Krista
Victor Martinez - 02 Mar 2004 13:53 GMT
> I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive

Don't feel bad about it. We'll keep purring for as long as it takes.

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LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:11 GMT
> > I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> > cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
>
> Don't feel bad about it. We'll keep purring for as long as it takes.

Thank you, Victor.  I am convinced the purrs are helping.  :-)

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Krista
Lisa Katt - 02 Mar 2004 15:15 GMT
Many purrs for Mike to feel better really soon!
Elisabet and Hugo Katt

>We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
>miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>------
>Krista
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 06:12 GMT
> Many purrs for Mike to feel better really soon!
> Elisabet and Hugo Katt

Thank you!  We believe the purrs are helping.  :-)

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Krista
Julie Cook - 02 Mar 2004 16:20 GMT
>We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
>miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
>awfully droopy; he wouldn't eat, he threw up several times, and all he
>wanted to do was curl up in a room by himself.  

{{{Krista, Dave and Mikey}}} I am so very sorry that Mikey isn't
responding the way you had hoped. We will continue to send purrs and
healing thoughts and meatloaf meditations for him as well as soothing
thoughts to you and Dave.  Hope all is much better soon.

Julie, Hobbes, Selena and Lacey

(ps:  The Thing in  a Bag is still hidden in the living room. It seems
that out of sight out of mind works on both cats and humans.  I will
send it sometime this week, however)
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:52 GMT
> {{{Krista, Dave and Mikey}}} I am so very sorry that Mikey isn't
> responding the way you had hoped. We will continue to send purrs and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> that out of sight out of mind works on both cats and humans.  I will
> send it sometime this week, however)

Thank you, Julie; we are hoping the lower dose of the meds we started
tonight will make him feel better shortly.  I hate to see my boy so
miserable.

And Mikey hasn't much felt like playing just lately; the slaughter of
The Thing can wait.  Also, he would like to point out, just in case,
that Hobbes is appx. 3 times Mike's size, so if Mikey decides
discretion is the better part of valor, it's understandable.   ;-)

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Krista
Annie Wxill - 02 Mar 2004 16:35 GMT
....

> I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
> to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  ...>
> ------
> Krista

Krista,
Do not hesitate to ask for support.  Purrs and prayers and cyber hugs are on
the way from our home to yours.  Oh yeah, and some meatloaf meditations as
well. \
Best wishes to you and Mikey,
Annie
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:40 GMT
> Krista,
> Do not hesitate to ask for support.  Purrs and prayers and cyber hugs are on
> the way from our home to yours.  Oh yeah, and some meatloaf meditations as
> well. \
> Best wishes to you and Mikey,
> Annie

Thank you, Annie.  I am hopeful that we can get Mikey stablized on a
lower dose; the poor darling doesn't understand why he keeps feeling
so rotten.  :-(

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Krista
Steve Touchstone - 02 Mar 2004 20:05 GMT
<snip>
>I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
>cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
>to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
>the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
>business and I will stand in the lobby screaming FIX MY BABY!!! until
>he does.  Please wish us luck.

No problem here with your asking for purrs, and we're sending
mega-purrs that TED can find the correct med levels.
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LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:41 GMT
> No problem here with your asking for purrs, and we're sending
> mega-purrs that TED can find the correct med levels.

Thank you, Steve; I am hopeful that the new dose will do the job for my boy.

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Krista
polonca12000 - 02 Mar 2004 21:00 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for TED to find what is wrong with Mikey and
solve the problem soonest (and hugs for his worried slave),
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<snip>> I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
> to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ------
> Krista
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:38 GMT
> Lots of purrs and best wishes for TED to find what is wrong with Mikey and
> solve the problem soonest (and hugs for his worried slave),

Thanks, Polonca; I am positive all the purrs are helping.  :-)

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Krista
Christine Burel - 02 Mar 2004 21:36 GMT
Oh, Krista!  Revving up all the kitty motors here for poor Mikey and for
you!
love,
Christine
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> ------
> Krista
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:35 GMT
> Oh, Krista!  Revving up all the kitty motors here for poor Mikey and for
> you!
> love,
> Christine

Thank you, Christine.  I am hoping the purrs and the lower dose of the
meds do the trick.  My poor little Mikey's having a rough time lately.

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Krista
CajunPrincess - 02 Mar 2004 22:41 GMT
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> ------
> Krista

Krista:

I just now starting reading your posts about Mikey and I am so sorry
you are having these problems.  My late baby Prissy had
hyperthyroidism and CFR, which is a common combination of ailments,
and I learned a fair amount about both of them while treating her in
the last couple of years of her life (she didn't develop these
problems until she was almost 18).  I tried to go back to your earlier
posts to find out something about Mikey so that I wouldn't waste your
time with suggestions that might not be of any use, but I couldn't
find out some things that might be relevant.  Here is a list of things
to consider; please forgive me if some don't apply to you in light of
my ignorance of Mikey's past treatment, age, etc.

1.  You will be almost certainly be able to stabilize his
hyperthyroidism with Tapazole once you get the dose right.  I
understand you live in a rural area with few vets and that your
current vet has only seen a couple of cases of hyperthyroidism.
That's unfortunate (it's also kind of surprising since hyperthyroidism
is relatively common among cats) because no matter how bright he is or
how much he reads, there's no substitute for experience.  Not to put
too fine a point on it, your vet may be learning from his experiences
with your cat.  But if the only problem is hyperthyroidism, it will
probably mean just that the ride may be a little bumpier than it might
be with a vet with more experience in treating the ailment.  As far as
the latest episode, I know it's distressing to see the cat go through
down spells, but a lot of the time it takes at least a couple of days
for their systems to stabilize after you start/stop some medication.
Bringing him in unannounced before 48 hours is up and demanding that
they cure him (unless he appears to be having some kind of acute
episode) is probably pointless and you may start to get your vet and
his staff annoyed and the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome may develop.
Better get used to having to wait some of these things out because
some of the treatments take time to work.  I *would* call them and
tell them about your concerns and to describe any symptoms that they
were not aware when you took Mikey in, though. I think good vets
appreciate owners who care enough to call with new developments or
concerns no matter how short a time it's been since the vet examined
the cat.

2.  Once you get his hyperthyroidism under control, Mikey needs to
have his kidney function checked because hyperthyroidism masks CRF.
You probably already found that out.

3.  Seriously consider radiation treatment if Mikey is not a senior
cat (I didn't find anything that indicated how old he was).  My cat
was too old for it to be feasible, but I have talked to some who have
had it done and IMO it's the way to go if your cat is facing years of
being treated with Tapazole, which is essensially a band-aid fix that
requires pretty constant monitoring and tweeking.  I know you said you
lived hundreds of miles from a vet school (I thought I saw in one of
your posts that you live in South Georgia, I know Auburn has a great
vet school although you may have an animal clinic that performs the
procedure closer than that), but it would be a one time thing.  It is
pretty expensive (over $1000 I think), but over the long haul the cost
evens out since you don't have to pay for the Tapazole and the
frequent blood tests.  Even if Mikey doesn't like to travel, the trade
off would IMHO be worth it if he's otherwise a good candidate for
radioiodine treatment (after all, we take our cats to the vet even
though they don't like it).  In any event, you have time to consider
it since they have to stabilize the hyperthyroidism with Tapazole
first before the feasibility of radiation treatment can be known.

4.  Relaying anecdotal evidence from people I have talked to,
including the staff at my cat-only vet, I understatnd that surgery to
remove the tumor from the thyroid is apparently no longer considered
an attractive option in many cases.  Apparently the operation is often
fairly tricky and the long-term success rate is not all that great
considering what the cat is put through.  If a cat owner is willing to
put his cat through surgery, which is not cheap, he/she probably
should consider radiation treatment instead.

I hope Mikey's condition stabilizes real soon and he gets back to his
old self.  It's always hard to see the furbabies having medical
problems.  It sounds like he's in great hands.  At least it looks like
you have been able to zero in on what his problem is and start to
treat it.  I'm sure it's just a matter of a ahort time before he's all
better.
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 05:26 GMT
(snipped purely for length)

> I hope Mikey's condition stabilizes real soon and he gets back to his
> old self.  It's always hard to see the furbabies having medical
> problems.  It sounds like he's in great hands.  At least it looks like
> you have been able to zero in on what his problem is and start to
> treat it.  I'm sure it's just a matter of a ahort time before he's all
> better.

Thank you very much for your post!  I appreciate all the information,
and you have made some very good points.  I don't think you'd missed
anything relevant to Mike's situation from any previous post, except
his age.  Mike's eleven; he'll be twelve in June, so his age is a
consideration, but not yet such a strong risk factor as to absolutely
rule out any treatment.

We hadn't considered the surgery as an option, since to have it done
we would have to travel just as far as for the radiation, and from our
reading and per our vet, we understand that radiation is by far the
preferred treatment.  We do live in south Georgia; the University of
Florida's vet school is actually the closest to us, but our vet is an
alum of the University of Georgia's vet school; that's where he makes
most of his referrals and almost certainly where we would have it
done.  It's also just a little closer than Auburn.  Our real concern
is what Mike will be best able to tolerate, as he is *very*
high-strung and easily stressed.  If staying home and taking oral meds
gives him a tolerable quality of life, and the ordeal of the
radioiodine treatment would make it only marginally better, well,
we'll be going with the meds.  It may not be the *best* treatment in
absolute terms, but we do feel in that case it would be best for Mike.
We haven't ruled out the radiation by any means, though, and if the
Tapazole turns out to be harder on him, with its ups and downs, we
will certainly consider it.

Our vet most likely hasn't had that much experience with
hyperthyroidism in cats because he hasn't had that much experience
with cats, in general.  It's an unfortunate fact that cats are still
by and large seen as able to fend for themselves in this area; even
those that are considered pets, rather than barn cats, mostly live
outside, the majority of them unspayed and unvaccinated.  (It's one of
the things that infuriates me about this place, and if I get started
I'll rant for days.)  I have thought of taking Mike to a feline
specialist, but since the closest I've found is appx. an hour away and
the traveling *would* be an ordeal for him, I am inclined to give it a
while to get him stabilized here at home instead.

Of course, what I *wanted* to do this morning was stand in TED's
office and scream until a magic wand was waved, but what I *did* do
was call him on the telephone like a sane person.  ;-)  At 5:00 this
afternoon it had been 48 hours since his last dose, so tonight we
re-started the Tapazole at 2/3 of the previous dose, and we'll see.

I do intend to talk more to our vet about monitoring, especially since
Mike has had a problem with a UTI and urine crystals in the past.
It's only happened once, but of course I am concerned about future
urinary problems once his thyroid levels aren't driving his kidneys.

I'm sorry this response is so long - it's just that you had so many
good points for me to respond to!  I appreciate your good wishes for
my little sweetheart, and *really* appreciate your help and
information.  I am hopeful that we can get our boy stabilized and back
to his ornery little self.

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Krista
Sam Nash - 03 Mar 2004 03:33 GMT
MAJOR purrs for Mike and you to get some relief.  It's so hard when a kid is
sick.
Sam
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 17:46 GMT
> MAJOR purrs for Mike and you to get some relief.  It's so hard when a kid is
> sick.
> Sam

Thank you, Sam.  He is now on a lower dose and we are hopeful that it
will make him feel better.  We are sending purrs back atcha.

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Krista
CATherine - 03 Mar 2004 04:08 GMT
>I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
>cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>------
>Krista

I am really concerned about his red eyes and tear ducts. I hope the
dosage can be titered quickly. I really don't like the way the dose
was put so high so that you had to go off it. My vet, with Sheba's
insulin, started at a very low dose and gradually increased it to a
level. And some of my clients in Home Health care are dosed gradually
upward with their various meds. That way there isn't such a shock to
the body. Sometimes an unreasonably high dose of something can trigger
a histamine reaction.

Many Super Purrs for Mike.
CATherine
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 17:51 GMT
> I am really concerned about his red eyes and tear ducts. I hope the
> dosage can be titered quickly. I really don't like the way the dose
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Many Super Purrs for Mike.
> CATherine

Thanks, CATherine.  Mike's now on a dose that is 2/3 of his previous
dose, and we are hoping that will do it.  I have no idea what levels
are appropriate to begin with; I know that in humans it can be really
hard to get the dose right to level out the thyroid hormones, for some
reason.  But Mike is smallish and has always reacted very strongly to
any meds he's had to have; I'm thinking what might be "standard" may
just be too high for him.  We'll see how it goes, and now at least I
do have an idea what to watch for.

TED said that the redness is actually an effect of the
hyperthyroidism, and is not uncommon.  I'd never heard of it, though.
I hope it goes away when his thyroid levels are stabilized; if not,
well, he's already set for Halloween.   ;-)

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Krista
CATherine - 04 Mar 2004 04:55 GMT
>> I am really concerned about his red eyes and tear ducts. I hope the
>> dosage can be titered quickly. I really don't like the way the dose
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>------
>Krista

I hadn't heard of the red eyes with thyroid problems before. My older
sister has been taking thyroid meds since she was in the 4th grade.
She never had red eyes but she did have other vision symptoms. I hope
Mike's eyes clear up soon.

Purrs for Mike,
CATherine
Marina - 04 Mar 2004 05:20 GMT
> I hadn't heard of the red eyes with thyroid problems before. My older
> sister has been taking thyroid meds since she was in the 4th grade.
> She never had red eyes but she did have other vision symptoms. I hope
> Mike's eyes clear up soon.

The only eye problem I've heard about in connection with hyperthyroidism is
bulgy, staring eyes. Maybe it's because Mikey is white that it more
noticeable when they turn red. Both Frank and Nikki are black around the
eyes, so maybe it just didn't show that clearly if they had red eyes.

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LOL - 05 Mar 2004 02:56 GMT
> > I hadn't heard of the red eyes with thyroid problems before. My older
> > sister has been taking thyroid meds since she was in the 4th grade.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> noticeable when they turn red. Both Frank and Nikki are black around the
> eyes, so maybe it just didn't show that clearly if they had red eyes.

The redness in the skin around his eyes is the most noticeable, but
his skin is reddish everywhere.  You can see wherever the fur is  thin
that he's a little pinker than usual; that's why I am thinking it's
just a flush.  It's just most noticeable around his eyes, perhaps
because his eyes have been so big and starey with anxiety, poor
darling. The redness has faded quite a bit by now, though not quite
back to normal.  He is far from back to his usual self, but I can tell
that he does feel better, thanks to meds and purrs.  I really hope it
won't be long before he feels like himself again.

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Krista
CATherine - 05 Mar 2004 03:49 GMT
>> I hadn't heard of the red eyes with thyroid problems before. My older
>> sister has been taking thyroid meds since she was in the 4th grade.
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>noticeable when they turn red. Both Frank and Nikki are black around the
>eyes, so maybe it just didn't show that clearly if they had red eyes.

That sounds like a probability to me. Like the way a blood stain or
tomato stain stands out on a white blouse, but is not too noticible on
a dark one.

CATherine
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 18:00 GMT
> I am really concerned about his red eyes and tear ducts. I hope the
> dosage can be titered quickly. I really don't like the way the dose
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> Many Super Purrs for Mike.
> CATherine

Sorry to follow up on my own post, but I forgot to say that the
redness truly does *not* seem to be a histamine reaction, as best I
can tell; it looks inflamed but there doesn't seem to be any itching
or irritation.  And now (lunch time Wednesday) it does seem to have
lessened a little bit.  Mike is a white kitty with really, really pink
skin; perhaps that's why it looks so red when actually it's just a
flush?  If it *is* just that his skin is flushed, though I'd never
heard of it I can imagine how a revved-up system from an overactive
thyroid could cause it.  I appreciate your concern, and the Super
Purrs!

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Krista
fuga  =^o^= - 03 Mar 2004 04:47 GMT
Keep us posted Krista... I hope this can be resolved with a lower does of
tapazole.

Hugs,

Fuga
LOL - 03 Mar 2004 17:57 GMT
> Keep us posted Krista... I hope this can be resolved with a lower does of
> tapazole.
>
> Hugs,
>
> Fuga

Thank you, Sharon.  I think he is a little better; he's now (lunch
time Wednesday) had two rounds of the lower dose of Tapazole, and he
seems to have settled down a little and is not  quite so anxious.  We
have high hopes!

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Krista
fuga  =^o^= - 04 Mar 2004 03:40 GMT
> Thank you, Sharon.  I think he is a little better; he's now (lunch
> time Wednesday) had two rounds of the lower dose of Tapazole, and he
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> ------
> Krista

I know the loss of appetite and vomitting are negative side effects from the
tapazole. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you can get him regulated and
possibly consider that radioidine treatment.

Purrs,

fuga
polonca12000 - 04 Mar 2004 09:23 GMT
Such great news!
Continued purrs and best wishes for Mike and hugs for his worried slave,
Signature

Polonca & Soncek

> Thank you, Sharon.  I think he is a little better; he's now (lunch
> time Wednesday) had two rounds of the lower dose of Tapazole, and he
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> ------
> Krista
Adrian - 03 Mar 2004 12:17 GMT
<SNIP>
> I do hate to keep asking for purrs for Mikey, but he is my soulmate
> cat and I hate to see him in distress.  We have gone from hyperactive
> to lethargic and now back, and I am really worried about him.  If he's
> the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
> business and I will stand in the lobby screaming FIX MY BABY!!! until
> he does.  Please wish us luck.

{{{{{{{{{{Krista}}}}}}}}}}}
Sending healing purrs, I hate the thought of any animal being in distress.
Signature

Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Milo & Bagheera)
A house is not a home, without a cat.

LOL - 04 Mar 2004 06:18 GMT
> {{{{{{{{{{Krista}}}}}}}}}}}
> Sending healing purrs, I hate the thought of any animal being in distress.

Thank you for the purrs; I think he's feeling a bit better.  He is now
on a lower dose of his meds, and I am hoping that will do it.

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Krista
Ginger-lyn Summer - 03 Mar 2004 22:25 GMT
Poor Mike and poor you :-(  Purrs that he will be better soon!

Ginger-lyn
LOL - 04 Mar 2004 06:19 GMT
> Poor Mike and poor you :-(  Purrs that he will be better soon!
>
> Ginger-lyn

Thank you, Ginger-lyn.  I think he is feeling a bit better now; he's
still clingy but wants to be *beside* me rather than in my lap, which
is more like My Mikey.  And a few minutes ago he took one of his back
feet and shoved my hand away from him.  Now *that's* my boy!  :-)

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Krista
SUQKRT - 03 Mar 2004 23:48 GMT
>I am really worried about him.  If he's
>the same tomorrow, we are taking him to TED regardless of the 48 hours
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>Krista

Purrs that they find a good/workable treatmen for Mike. Never be afraid to ask
for purrs.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^=   =^..^=   =^..^=   =^..^=  =^..^=  =^..^=

I've learned to not sweat the petty things, and not pet the sweaty things.
LOL - 04 Mar 2004 06:21 GMT
> Purrs that they find a good/workable treatmen for Mike. Never be afraid to ask
> for purrs.
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>
> I've learned to not sweat the petty things, and not pet the sweaty things.

Thanks, Suz.  I think he is feeling a little better now, and am hoping
he's back to normal soon.  He's on a lower dose of the same meds, and
I am hoping that will do it.

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Krista
Susan M - 04 Mar 2004 02:59 GMT
Hi Krista:

I've only had time to do two quick lurks the last couple of days but I want
you to know that I've been sending calming healing thoughts to your Mike and
strength and stamina thoughts to you ... all aided by Otis' loud rumbling
purring.

You're really giving your all to Mike and I know he must realize what you're
doing for him.  I hope you find a solution SOON.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

"LOL" <arbitrarilyyours@hotmail.com> wrote in message > We get home at 5:00
to a frantic kitty.  Not the same as before
> starting the Tapazole; no pacing or spraying, but he is *very* anxious
> and can't settle down, and is doing things he *never* does.  For just
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> own chair, tyvm.  He's not asleep, but he is at least somewhat
> relaxed.
LOL - 04 Mar 2004 07:44 GMT
> Hi Krista:
>
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> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

Thank you, Susan, and please thank Otis for his purrs.  :-)

Mike is feeling a bit better today; he's still on the couch beside me
as I type this, but he's not clinging desperately to me like last
night, and in fact is getting a little of his old orneriness back.  I
am hoping the new lower dose of his meds does it for him; this up and
down business scares us both.

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Krista
Helen Wheels - 04 Mar 2004 08:00 GMT
> Thank you, Susan, and please thank Otis for his purrs.  :-)
>
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> ------
> Krista

Let's hear it for ornery cats. We love 'em all! Hope it's all up
for Mike from now on.
Helen Wheels
badwilson - 04 Mar 2004 11:28 GMT
I'm sorry to hear that.  Purrs for Mike to improve with a lower dosage.
--
Britta
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
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> Krista
JP Hobbs - 07 Mar 2004 03:50 GMT
Lots of Purrs and scritches, poor Mikey {{{{{{{ Mikey}}}}}}} Jean
> We had several good days when the Tapazole seemed to have worked a
> miracle, and Mikey was his old self again.  But yesterday he was
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> ------
> Krista
 
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