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Karen Chuplis - 18 Feb 2004 14:29 GMT
Dennis hadn't eaten but had he drunk something? Lots of peanut stuff over
there and those allergies can develop literally over night. Happened to a
friend in college that way and ended up being peanuts. I mean, there could
be residue on a glass or something? I hope he finds out soon. I'd hotfoot it
to an allergist. Purrs that he stays safe.

Karen
badwilson - 19 Feb 2004 02:40 GMT
> Dennis hadn't eaten but had he drunk something? Lots of peanut stuff over
> there and those allergies can develop literally over night. Happened to a
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>
> Karen

Thanks, Karen.  He had a Diet Coke out of the can the 2nd time but just
water at home the first time.  Unfortunately we can't do the allergist until
after he gets back from Burma in 6 looooong weeks!  I really hope he doesn't
have an attack while he's away because there would be no help for him where
he is.
Doubtful about peanuts, we eat those all the time and he's never had
anything.  Usually the reaction would be almost immediate after eating them,
wouldn't it?  Dennis had had no food for several hours before either attack.
I am really hoping that it was just these 2 times and doesn't happen again,
especially while he's away.
--
Britta
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Karen Chuplis - 19 Feb 2004 03:32 GMT
>> Dennis hadn't eaten but had he drunk something? Lots of peanut stuff over
>> there and those allergies can develop literally over night. Happened to a
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> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

Well I just hope he doesn't have it anymore. Keep us posted.

Karen
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Feb 2004 04:43 GMT
> Dennis hadn't eaten but had he drunk something? Lots of peanut stuff over
> there and those allergies can develop literally over night. Happened to a
> friend in college that way and ended up being peanuts. I mean, there could
> be residue on a glass or something? I hope he finds out soon. I'd hotfoot it
> to an allergist. Purrs that he stays safe.

Apparently even a very little bit of residue can trigger a reaction, if
you're really allergic to them!  I'm an inveterate label-reader (but
not, fortunately, allergic to any foodstuffs), and many labels will warn
that a product which does not contain peanuts itself has been produced
in a machine or utensil that "may" have been used for something
containing peanuts - I doubt they'd bother with the warning, unless
there was a reason.

> Karen
badwilson - 19 Feb 2004 05:31 GMT
> > Dennis hadn't eaten but had he drunk something? Lots of peanut stuff over
> > there and those allergies can develop literally over night. Happened to a
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> containing peanuts - I doubt they'd bother with the warning, unless
> there was a reason.

Yes, I realize that, but how can you check labels if you don't know you're
allergic to anything?  What are you supposed to look for if something like
that has never happened before?  And would the reaction occur 3-4 hours
after having eaten *anything*?  Just seems unlikely to me.
--
Britta
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 Feb 2004 21:57 GMT
> > Apparently even a very little bit of residue can trigger a reaction, if
> > you're really allergic to them!  I'm an inveterate label-reader (but
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> that has never happened before?  And would the reaction occur 3-4 hours
> after having eaten *anything*?  Just seems unlikely to me.

You're right - sounds more like something in the atmosphere, espcially
with a respiratory involvement, but that wouldn't really explain the
hives.  (Unless he'd been in contact with some sort of poisonous plant
or insect.)
Hopitus2 - 21 Feb 2004 23:04 GMT
Since this thread's still rolling along, may I drop in my last 2 cents worth
of advice after reading all posts and especially Britta's answers to them:
Dennis needs to hold off on taking *any* of those Rx anti-inflammatory meds
(for his back pain) till he gets out of Burma and back to your area. I was
all like "the environment - maybe" for his allergic reactions - the throat
closing, etc. - till I saw you mention his "sometime" taking of that class
of pain meds. I myself take one NSAID(non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug),
Rx by doc, which is very hard on stomach tissues and precludes drinking
alcohol, ever. That's why I never drink.
But if one developed an allergy to this med, for example, stomach ulcerative
bleeding would by no means be the only form it would manifest in! This may
be the root cause of Dennis' attacks (or not)..l admit I've seized on this
as a possible culprit. But it is a valid consideration. Hives are no big
deal; I get them after thoughtlessly snarfing down some "forbidden" foods
now and then..only an itching annoyance that will go away in time. The
airway swelling/constriction is a serious anaphylactic reaction, as we have
stated, and will only get more severe in time if repeatedly brought on by
whatever the "trigger" factor is. I hate to be such a PITA about this, but
here's the truth: working in my ER, have never seen any patient "go to
glory" right there from an anaphylactic reaction (plus fact). However, the
measures taken by medical staff to intervene in such a possible RB trip *far
exceed* injecting patient with epinepherine and getting an instant fix
(minus fact)....the basis for my worry. So flame the worrywart Hopitus2 if
you wanna.....but hurry up, 'cause it's back in the 80's F. down here and
this fireproof bodysuit is hot and sweaty and the Evil 3 are sniffing it in
disbelief and suspicion.

: > > Apparently even a very little bit of residue can trigger a reaction, if
: > > you're really allergic to them!  I'm an inveterate label-reader (but
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: hives.  (Unless he'd been in contact with some sort of poisonous plant
: or insect.)
badwilson - 22 Feb 2004 02:19 GMT
> Since this thread's still rolling along, may I drop in my last 2 cents worth
> of advice after reading all posts and especially Britta's answers to them:
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> this fireproof bodysuit is hot and sweaty and the Evil 3 are sniffing it in
> disbelief and suspicion.

Don't worry, no flames coming from me.  But don't worry, Dennis isn't taking
anything anymore, just in case.  I thought I'd mentioned that in the other
thread.  Oh well.  Yeah, just in case, he's not taking any
anti-inflammatories of any type and no vitamins either (now he'll probably
suffer from malnutrition from the crap that they have to eat in Burma,
LOL!).  So far so good.  Don't know if I mentioned it, but there is a guy
with him there now who has an epi pen.  Dennis will try to get him to leave
it behind when he goes back home in 2 weeks.  Am also trying to get Dennis'
mom to send us some epi pens, she works in a doctor's clinic.
--
Britta
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Nancy Holland-Johnson - 23 Feb 2004 02:56 GMT
Britta, I'm a lurker at this newsgroup but I just wanted to let you know that it
is possible for a reaction to take place several hours after eating something.
I found that out the hard way when I ate some fish with crab stuffing.  4 or 5
hours later, I started getting hives and my throat was swelling up.  At the ER
they gave me Benedryl and steroids in massive amounts.  I saw an allergist and
she had my blood drawn for RAST tests and found I had a shellfish allergy.  No
more shrimpies or other shellfish for me!  And I now carry an epipen around with
me - as well as Benedryl.

Peanuts (and peanut oil) and shellfish are two very common food allergies.  You
may want to warn Dennis away from them for the duration until he sees an
allergist - and for him to take Benedryl at the first sign of hives.  Sorry for
sticking my nose in here but I just wanted to bring up the delayed reaction for
an allergy.

Nancy

> > Since this thread's still rolling along, may I drop in my last 2 cents
> worth
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> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
badwilson - 23 Feb 2004 03:44 GMT
> Britta, I'm a lurker at this newsgroup but I just wanted to let you know that it
> is possible for a reaction to take place several hours after eating something.
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>
> Nancy

I really doubt it was peanuts or shellfish though.  Not only didn't he eat
anything for 3-4 hours before the attack, but he hadn't had peanuts or
shellfish for days before the attack.  Maybe even a week.  I think he had
half a mango a few hours before the first attack which was just hives, so
that could be something.  The only thing he'd had of the day of the second
attack was a bowl of cereal for breakfast and a diet coke.  He's had the
cereal since then and no reaction.  I'm sure he's been eating peanuts and
shellfish since then too with no reaction.  But just in case, he is staying
away from mangos and diet coke.  We will have to get him tested for
allergies when he gets back from Burma, but that won't be until March 31st.
He is carrying around the liquid Benedryl and some steroid pills and the
inhaler and he's staying close to the guy with the epi pen and has told both
the other guys about what to watch out for.
--
Britta
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
 
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