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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Jan 2004 09:44 GMT *Please* The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off to start moving precious personal items upstairs...
Cheers, helen s
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lewe - 31 Jan 2004 09:46 GMT dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:20040131044436.04604.00001157@mb-m10.aol.com...
| *Please* | The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got | torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off | to start moving precious personal items upstairs... | | Cheers, helen s how worrying, and that's the stream I'm always very envious about ... Thea & Bono send their best purrs for the stream to keep where it should or at least not stray too far. Please be safe and dry! -- lewe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- lewemi at yahoo dot se | cat pics: photos.yahoo.com/lewemi
Karen Chuplis - 31 Jan 2004 10:02 GMT in article 20040131044436.04604.00001157@mb-m10.aol.com, dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers at wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom wrote on 1/31/04 3:44 AM:
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ Oh dear!! Purrs for waters to recede.
Karen
JP Hobbs - 31 Jan 2004 10:56 GMT Helen, Many Purrs for the safety of you and yours,may the good Lord keep you all, and your kitties, and your belongings, out of the water, what country do you live in? I hope this post gets to you as it is the 3rd try I dont know why hugs and purrs JeanP.
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ Adrian - 31 Jan 2004 11:20 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Purrs that the forecast is wrong and you stay high and dry.
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Stacey - 31 Jan 2004 11:55 GMT Drying out purrs on their way!!!!
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ Sherry - 31 Jan 2004 13:53 GMT >*Please* >The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Cheers, helen s Oh, no! Purrs for the forecasters to be *wrong*.
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Marina - 31 Jan 2004 14:21 GMT "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> wrote in
> The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got > torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off > to start moving precious personal items upstairs... Oh, that sounds ominous. Many purrs that you all stay dry.
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Takayuki - 31 Jan 2004 16:31 GMT >*Please* >The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got >torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off >to start moving precious personal items upstairs... Oh, no, this sounds very familiar! Your stream must like to misbehave. Purrs that your downstairs remains dry!
Victor Martinez - 31 Jan 2004 16:51 GMT Drying purrs on the way!
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Annie Wxill - 31 Jan 2004 19:27 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got > torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off > to start moving precious personal items upstairs... > > Cheers, helen s Helen, Purrs and prayers for the safety of your family. I hope this finds you high and dry.. Annie
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Jan 2004 19:30 GMT Thanks *all* who have sent good wishes etc...
A brief respite.
The water came worryingly close but a break in the rain allowed the waters to recede a bit. Sadly, the wind (gale force, forecasts of possible structural damage...) is bad with driving rain. The wind is so strong, it's blowing the rain in *through* the window frames.
The stuff like photo albums and other stuff that simply can't be replaced if worst comes to worst overnight are moved to the safety of upstairs. The cats are safely tucked up inside too.
Nathan stayed at a friend's last night and I drove to get him this morning to help in the moving stuff at home. That drive was *scary*. The stream that's at the end of my garden, at one point further upstream from me had completely washed out over the road... I needed to get through it to get to where Nathan was and as where he was staying is low-lying; I wanted to check he wasn't flooded already. So I drove into the flood steadily as I knew the road well, and the road I knew, wasn't deeply submerged, but submerged it was for about 50 yards. The problem came when a large truck came the other way and rather than wait until I got through, he bore straight down into the flood - stirring up quite a wave of water - aimed at *me*. I think the driver must have seen the look of abject terror on my face as he decided to stop after all. The engine of the car spluttered a bit, but I kept my foot on the accelerator and got through. It was not fun though. After checking my brakes (still working) I carried on and much of the rest of the road was awash - turned into a river over the tarmac. I got to where Nathan was only to find he wasn't actually there, but the people he was with had set off to bring him back home - coming a different route - and that's the one I took to get back. Still quite bad, but not as bad as the one I took on the outward journey. On the plus side, the car has had a darned good washing today ;-)
Back home the moving of stuff is complicated by the fact I have to completely empty my kitchen - every single cupboard to be emptied of every single item, as tomorrow morning a man is coming to rip out my old kitchen units, as I'm due to have a new one fitted next week (this has been planned for a couple of months). So I am having a break from that task. My new kitchen is going to be set on stainless steel legs as opposed to the units being on a plinth. It's what I had already decided upon as my nod in the direction of flood awareness. This way, a few inches of water could enter the kitchen and not completely wreck the units, as it would go under them, but not be soaking up any wooden plinths.
On the positive side, having a stream at the end of the garden is a joy except in winter! The cats love exploring the long grass of the banks, and it's a haven for trout and we get the odd water vole (an endangered species over here) and kingfishers. Summer brings dragonflies hovering, ducks quacking and frogs croaking. The stream is the upper reaches of a river system, so although the water can come up quickly, it also recedes quickly. So far, we've not flooded, but we have had the off hairy moment ;-) I hope the hairy moments are as far as it continues to go! Tonight's storm going over will be a testing time though.
Cheers, helen s
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Karen Chuplis - 31 Jan 2004 19:40 GMT Please be careful!! Maybe your flooding with the land is different (it certainly can be in different regions) but usually the most tragic flood deaths are in trying to go through washed out roads!!!! I'm glad there seems to be a bit of a respite. Stay dry!
GraceCat - 31 Jan 2004 21:55 GMT Our roads *always* go under water during the worst of storms. It's a common occurance down here. Yet, give us an hour of snow and we shut down for days. Go figure.
A rule of thumb in trucks that I've learned is that if it doesn't touch the running boards, I'm fairly safe to drive at very slow yet steady speeds. If it's moving fast, over a bridge where the local creeks flood, it's best not to even try. It's easier when you know the roads and can judge how deep the water is and if it's not moving. It's hazardous riding conditions yes, but typically I don't blink twice. I had a truck that hydroplaned *bad*, almost every single time I was on a wet road my tires would slip. It certainly added to my rainy road condition driving techniques ;). The biggest thing I've learned that causes many of the accidents is overcorrection. The first thing I did was take my feet completely away from the brake and gas and try to keep the truck going in a straight direction, whichever direction that may be.
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> Please be careful!! Maybe your flooding with the land is different (it > certainly can be in different regions) but usually the most tragic flood > deaths are in trying to go through washed out roads!!!! I'm glad there seems > to be a bit of a respite. Stay dry! dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Jan 2004 22:58 GMT >Our roads *always* go under water during the worst of storms. It's a >common occurance down here. Yet, give us an hour of snow and we shut >down for days. Go figure. Fess up - you live in England - that shutting down is exactly what happens over here!
Cheers, helen s ;-)
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GraceCat - 31 Jan 2004 21:43 GMT We have... bayous, creeks, rivers and streams here... A stream consists of a passage of water, a brook really... possibly two to three feet wide, just as deep and gently trickling by. Think, man-made and for aesthetic purposes. Basically, a pretty ditch of water *grin*.
What you have to southern usa-ers is a full grown river unless it's only 15 feet wide or so and then that would be a creek if you don't live in Louisiana where then it would be a bayou :) :)
Grace who couldn't imagine a stream to her knowledge flooding a house
PS: Glad to hear it's receding a bit, purrs and prayers that it continues to do so.
> Thanks *all* who have sent good wishes etc... > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Jan 2004 22:53 GMT >We have... bayous, creeks, rivers and streams here... A stream consists >of a passage of water, a brook really... possibly two to three feet >wide, just as deep and gently trickling by. Think, man-made and for >aesthetic purposes. Basically, a pretty ditch of water *grin*. What's end the end of my garden is *normally* about 5' wide and a couple of feet deep. It's clean, with trout, sticklebacks, frogs, watercress on occasion, dragonflies..
But in winter (storm) it's about 9' wide at the top (before bursting the bank) and about 5' deep and *fast* - whitewater - *literally* it couldn't be outrun by a sprinter. It is *seriously* fast. When it bursts the banks, it can spread far and wide, but it remains *fast*. The real danger with it is that speed of water - you wouldn't stand a chance in it and I certainly don't allow the cats out when the weather is like this.
Further upstream, where it swamped the road, it was about a foot deep, but *fast* - and the truck coming at me almost swamped the engine of the car due to the wave it was pushing. I would not have been a very happy bunny *at all* if the engine had of stopped, as even though it was shallow, it was so fast, I'm not sure I could have stood up in it easily - if I was knocked off my feet, I'd have been swept downstream into deeper and even faster waters. A few years ago, during a stormy session when it was flowing deep & fast, a deer went floating by - and not a live one :-(
Further upstream, run-off from the fields literally did cover the entire width of the road, using the length of the road as effectively a river bed.
It's not nice waking up of a morning, looking out of your bedroom window and seeing home surrounded by water on three sides, flooding around the bricks with a very fast flow. Thankfully that's only got that far once and so far, we've been spared water in the house.
But the rest of the year - it's a sheer joy :-)
Cheers, helen s
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Stacey - 31 Jan 2004 23:13 GMT > >We have... bayous, creeks, rivers and streams here... A stream consists > >of a passage of water, a brook really... possibly two to three feet [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune What you described, Helen, I would call a "creek" rather than a stream. As Grace said, a stream is more of something that would dry up within a day or so...
Stacey :)
Steve Touchstone - 01 Feb 2004 04:27 GMT >Thanks *all* who have sent good wishes etc... > >A brief respite. Glad to hear that the waters have receded. My first post didn't get there in time to help with the first wave, but hope they'll help overnight.
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>Nathan stayed at a friend's last night and I drove to get him this morning to >help in the moving stuff at home. That drive was *scary*. The stream that's at >the end of my garden, at one point further upstream from me had completely >washed out over the road... Don't mean to lecture, but most folks don't reason just how little water is needed to float a vehicle. Avoid it if you can, and if you can't be very careful. There may also be some preventive maintenance need on your vehicle if part of your drivetrain was submerged.
>On the positive side, having a stream at the end of the garden is a joy except >in winter! The cats love exploring the long grass of the banks, and it's a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >but we have had the off hairy moment ;-) I hope the hairy moments are as far as >it continues to go! Tonight's storm going over will be a testing time though. Kitty heaven ;-)
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John Biltz - 01 Feb 2004 05:09 GMT > Don't mean to lecture, but most folks don't reason just how little > water is needed to float a vehicle. Avoid it if you can, and if you > can't be very careful. There may also be some preventive maintenance > need on your vehicle if part of your drivetrain was submerged. The same reaction I had, in the US Southwest flash flooding is a real problem and we get a lot of public service advertising about it. My favorite was a billboard with a picture of a Volkswagen being washed away with a caption "Farfromfloatin" Cars get washed away all the time but I don't remember it being much of a problem in the rest of the country.
Steve Touchstone - 01 Feb 2004 05:27 GMT >> Don't mean to lecture, but most folks don't reason just how little >> water is needed to float a vehicle. Avoid it if you can, and if you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >with a caption "Farfromfloatin" Cars get washed away all the time but I >don't remember it being much of a problem in the rest of the country. Well, that's where my experience is coming from. Used to spend a lot of weekends growing up riding dirtbikes in the Mojave, barely visible clouds in the distance could mean flashflood. I was never caught in one, but our ambulance platoon once lost a tent and trashed an ambulance when they set up in a ravine at 29 Palms in the Mojave - not a drop anywhere close to where we were.
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 02 Feb 2004 08:43 GMT >Don't mean to lecture, but most folks don't reason just how little >water is needed to float a vehicle. Avoid it if you can, and if you >can't be very careful. There may also be some preventive maintenance >need on your vehicle if part of your drivetrain was submerged. The *only* reason I decided to go through is I know the road well, and hence, depth of water. No offence at lecture :-) Much checking of vehicle shows it's fine.
Currently stream in back in its banks, but we have more heavy rain forecast over the next couple of days.
Cheers, helen s
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Marina - 01 Feb 2004 05:01 GMT > A brief respite. > > The water came worryingly close but a break in the rain allowed the waters to > recede a bit. Sadly, the wind (gale force, forecasts of possible structural > damage...) is bad with driving rain. The wind is so strong, it's blowing the > rain in *through* the window frames. Glad to hear you are still ok and hope you stayed safe overnight. We had the same storm here, except for rain, substitute snow. I was at the theatre last night, and on the way home, I was seriously afraid that the bus would get stuck in the snow a couple of times. The snow plows had not had time to come out yet, there were tens of centimetres of snow on the less frequented roads near my home, where the wind had driven it in heaps, and the bus did have some difficulty, but it did push through eventually. Then I had to wade through ankle-deep snow from the bus stop to my door. It's surprisingly hard to walk in snow, especially when you can't be sure if there is any ice underneath, and when the wind is driving snow in your face so hard that your glasses get clogged and you can't see a thing. It's better to wear glasses, though, because if you don't, you get the snow straight in your eyes, and can see even less. I think I'm staying in today. :o)
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Steve Touchstone - 01 Feb 2004 05:32 GMT >Glad to hear you are still ok and hope you stayed safe overnight. We had the >same storm here, except for rain, substitute snow. I was at the theatre last [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >though, because if you don't, you get the snow straight in your eyes, and >can see even less. I think I'm staying in today. :o) Now, do you see why Nikki tried to keep you from getting dressed to go out? ;-) Of course, that doesn't mean that you're off the hook, she'll probably still expect you to bundle up so she can go out exploring in the morning LOL
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Marina - 01 Feb 2004 06:13 GMT > Now, do you see why Nikki tried to keep you from getting dressed to go > out? ;-) Of course, that doesn't mean that you're off the hook, she'll > probably still expect you to bundle up so she can go out exploring in > the morning LOL LOL! Oh, I see. She was trying to protect me, yet again. I was planning on taking her out this morning, but I don't know if she wants to go. I opened the balcony door for her, and she put out one paw in the little snow that had drifted in front of the door, and then she pulled it straight back and went to lie on the shirt (yes, I left it on the floor for her and wore other clothes. So who's the good catslave then? ;).
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polonca12000 - 01 Feb 2004 12:25 GMT I'm so glad to hear you have arrived safely, Marina. Please take care. Best wishes,
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> through ankle-deep snow from the bus stop to my door. It's surprisingly hard > to walk in snow, especially when you can't be sure if there is any ice > underneath, and when the wind is driving snow in your face so hard that your > glasses get clogged and you can't see a thing. It's better to wear glasses, > though, because if you don't, you get the snow straight in your eyes, and > can see even less. I think I'm staying in today. :o) dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 02 Feb 2004 08:47 GMT >I think I'm staying in today. :o) Glad you got back okay. Obviously Nikki had pre-cognition of the storm and knew that really, you should stay in, hence the clothing tactics...
On the TV news this morning, re; the weekend wet weather, apparently said rain storm over the weekend dumped rain equivalent to entire expected rainfall for all of January and all of February over in Snowdonia (other side of country). I feel for them over htere, but have to say, am glad it didn't dump same amount over here. I'd be typing this in a wetsuit and snorkel...
Cheers, helen s
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Marina - 02 Feb 2004 14:31 GMT > Glad you got back okay. Obviously Nikki had pre-cognition of the storm and knew > that really, you should stay in, hence the clothing tactics... I'm starting to believe that myself.
> On the TV news this morning, re; the weekend wet weather, apparently said rain > storm over the weekend dumped rain equivalent to entire expected rainfall for > all of January and all of February over in Snowdonia (other side of country). I > feel for them over htere, but have to say, am glad it didn't dump same amount > over here. I'd be typing this in a wetsuit and snorkel... We got huge masses of snow here. I haven't seen any reports, but wouldn't be surprised if this filled the quota for February. Huge piles of snow everywhere, where the snow plows have pushed it off the streets and walkways. I don't remember this much snow since I was a wee girl, but my memory isn't that reliable. Maybe the piles of snow just seemed huge because I was so little. ;o)
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Christine Burel - 31 Jan 2004 21:29 GMT PURRRRRS coming your way that the weather forecasters are wrong! Be safe! Christine
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ Brenda - 31 Jan 2004 21:53 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ flood-stopping purrs enroute. Brenda
Yowie - 31 Jan 2004 23:38 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got > torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off > to start moving precious personal items upstairs... G'Day Huey (Aussie rain and storm God)
Fair go, mate.
Knock it off down in Pommyland and bring it back to where we need it.
Its drier than a dead dingo's donger 'round here!
Cheers,
Yowie
Sam Nash - 01 Feb 2004 02:45 GMT Purrs and prayers on the way for the water to subside and the rains to stop. Sam
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ badwilson - 01 Feb 2004 03:59 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got > torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off > to start moving precious personal items upstairs... Oh no! Didn't this happen last year too? I'm so sorry for your troubles and we'll be sending purrs right away. -- Britta Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Steve Touchstone - 01 Feb 2004 04:27 GMT >*Please* >The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got >torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off >to start moving precious personal items upstairs... > >Cheers, helen s Purrs that the forecast is wrong, and the level has gone down by the time you read this.
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Tanada - 01 Feb 2004 05:18 GMT > *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got > torrential rain forecast for all of today and all of tomorrow ;-( I'm just off > to start moving precious personal items upstairs... OUCH!! Purrs and rain stopping thoughts and hopes for your family, and all the people affected by the rain and flooding.
Pam, Rob, and the NC nine
polonca12000 - 01 Feb 2004 12:14 GMT Lots of purrs and best wishes for no rain,
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> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ Yoj - 03 Feb 2004 08:19 GMT Purrs and prayers that you and yours remain high and dry.
-- Joy
Life is what happens to you while you are planning to do something else.
> *Please* > The stream at the end of the garden has already burst its banks and we've got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune > h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$ dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 03 Feb 2004 09:36 GMT >Purrs and prayers that you and yours remain high and dry. > >-- >Joy Thanks Joy - water has receded to where it normally is - within the banks of the stream.
Cheers, helen s
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polonca12000 - 03 Feb 2004 20:31 GMT Great news! Best wishes,
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> Thanks Joy - water has receded to where it normally is - within the banks of > the stream.
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