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Arthur Shapiro - 11 Dec 2003 05:31 GMT
The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
on oxygen and under constant attention in the two hours since we left.

They recommended and asked for permission to euthanize.  We sadly gave the
goahead.

Don't bother to fill up the newsgroup with "I'm sorry" messages - it's a given
and I'm very appreciative of everyones' support and obvious concern about a
kitty you'd never met.

He was a really good, gentle cat; having him for 15 1/2 years + two days was
always a pleasure, even in those last years where he tended to stay out of the
mainstream in one of the bedrooms.    At least the surgery gave us a couple
extra weeks, and I really believe he wasn't particularly unhappy until the
sudden spiral this evening.  

Art  
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Gizela - 11 Dec 2003 05:40 GMT
Purrs

Angela and Gizmo

> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Art
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m. L. Briggs - 11 Dec 2003 06:23 GMT
>The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
>described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Art  
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"Rise up slowlu. Angel, it's hard to let you go...."
Hopitus2 - 11 Dec 2003 06:32 GMT
Damned PC turned itself on again (nothing unusual) and I got up to turn it
off, as the music was going on forever otherwise....hit the OE while I was
up....saw your post, Art. Tears here for you hoomins, not for Lester, who is
as beautiful as he ever was at the Bridge, painfree, surrounded by his
peers, our own beloveds, where he will wait, as they all do, for our
eventual arrival there to take them Home. Yes, we never met Lester, yet we
share your grief. The furry short people just don't last as long as we do,
and when they leave, holes are left in our hearts, but they will always live
on in our memories of their time with us. Sorry, Art.
Had to vent.

: >The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
: >described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
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:
: "Rise up slowlu. Angel, it's hard to let you go...."
Lois Reay - 11 Dec 2003 08:58 GMT
I have been following Lesters story - a wonderful kitty only lent.

Purrs
Lois

> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Art
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lewe - 11 Dec 2003 09:40 GMT
> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> extra weeks, and I really believe he wasn't particularly unhappy until the
> sudden spiral this evening.

I am glad you had the "extra" time together.
Sad about your loss.
Purrs for all.
Lena
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JBHajos - 11 Dec 2003 11:05 GMT
>They recommended and asked for permission to euthanize.  We sadly gave the
>goahead.
>
>Don't bother to fill up the newsgroup with "I'm sorry" messages - it's a given  
 But I AM sorry.  I'm sad for Lester, and sad for you, especially
since you have lost two in a comparatively short time.  Take care.

 "A pet is not forever but its loving memory is."

Jeanne
badwilson - 11 Dec 2003 12:22 GMT
Well, the good thing about the NG is that it's endless and will never fill
up.  So I feel justified in sending an "I'm sorry" message anyway, because I
am.  I've been following the story of Lester since the beginning and it
seems like you've been having quite a rough time of it lately with your
cats.  Purrs for you and your family,
--
Britta
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Christine Burel - 11 Dec 2003 14:04 GMT
> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Art
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Thinking of you and your family during this difficult time; hugs for you and
purrs for Lester at the RB.
Christine, Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker
Ginger-lyn Summer - 11 Dec 2003 18:52 GMT
>The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
>described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Art  
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{{{Art}}}

Purrs for a gentle journey to the Bridge for Lester.

Blessings,

Ginger-lyn
Julie Cook - 11 Dec 2003 21:36 GMT
>The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
>described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>  

Art,

I am so very sorry that you had to make the ultimate sacrifice and help
Lester on his journey to the Bridge. We will light a candle tonight to
help guide him on his journey. Special purrs and gentle headbutts to you
and your family for your loss.

Julie, Hobbes, Selena and Lacey
Tanada - 11 Dec 2003 22:08 GMT
> He was a really good, gentle cat; having him for 15 1/2 years + two days was
> always a pleasure, even in those last years where he tended to stay out of the
> mainstream in one of the bedrooms.    At least the surgery gave us a couple
> extra weeks, and I really believe he wasn't particularly unhappy until the
> sudden spiral this evening.

While not unexpected, this has been a horrible blow for you and your
wife.  Please accept our condolences and sympathy on the loss of your
beloved Lester.  He was a grand cat with a wonderful name.

Pam, Rob, and the NC nine
polonca12000 - 11 Dec 2003 22:42 GMT
We are thinking of you. Hugs and purrs,
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Polonca & Soncek

> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  <snip
Annie Wxill - 12 Dec 2003 00:21 GMT
...> They recommended and asked for permission to euthanize.  We sadly gave
the
> goahead.
>..> Art

Condolences and healing thoughts to help you through this difficult time.
Annie
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Dec 2003 01:52 GMT
It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
painful or even irritating to others. I can occasionally be that way
myself, especially if I feel not only very sad, but angry about the
loss. Maybe Arthur feels angry at the world for taking away Lester -
that would be a reasonable response. When I'm in that state, I often
feel like, "Just leave me alone in my misery and don't bug me with
useless sympathy."

That doesn't mean that people who offer sympathy are being useless!
It's just that it can sometimes feel that way to the grieving (or
otherwise upset) person. I try to leave such people in peace until they
indicate that they want to talk or have company, etc.

Anyway, that's how I took Arthur's message, fwiw.

Joyce
Yoj - 12 Dec 2003 02:18 GMT
I agree with you, Joyce.  There is also the fact that reading
expressions of sympathy can be painful to someone who has suffered a
loss.  After my husband died (over 17 years ago, so no need for sympathy
messages), I would occasionally encounter, or get a phone call, from
someone who did not know.  I dreaded telling them, because then I had to
deal with the sympathy.

--
Joy

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Winter (or Summer) Solstice,
Hogmanay and New Year!  If that didn't cover it, Season's Greetings!

> It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
> because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
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>
> Joyce
Arthur Shapiro - 12 Dec 2003 02:56 GMT
>It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
>because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
>painful or even irritating to others.

Nah...it just seems pointless.  I tried to do the best I could, and it wasn't
good enough.  There's no reason for anyone else to be concerned anymore.

Art  
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Sam Nash - 12 Dec 2003 04:09 GMT
> >It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
> >because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
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> Art
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Must disagree here, Art.  You did you best for Lester and it *was* enough to
keep him pain-free for as long as possible.  I'm sure Lester will be waiting
for you at "The Bridge" and will fill your soul with joyous purrs when it is
time for you to join him.

Sam
Karen - 12 Dec 2003 04:52 GMT
>> It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
>> because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
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> ISP to reach me

Now that's just silly, Art. You did do the best you could. Lester was no
spring chicken and had a good life. You provided a great deal of care, love
and got him professional help for his best shot. I'd like to know what can
be done beyond that. Don't be so hard on yourself. I doubt Lester would be.

Karen
Yowie - 12 Dec 2003 05:43 GMT
> >It might be that Arthur actually doesn't *want* "I'm sorry" messages
> >because, although they've very comforting to some people, they might be
> >painful or even irritating to others.
>
> Nah...it just seems pointless.  I tried to do the best I could, and it wasn't
> good enough.  There's no reason for anyone else to be concerned anymore.

Sweetie, we aren't miracle workers. We can just do the best we can do, and
thats all anyone can ask of us. All mortal beings have to die at some point.
At 16 years, Lester had a good long life that was filled with love, and as
much comfort as any other mortal could give him even right up to the end.
You cared, you tried, but eventually death catches up with all of us. Thats
the fate of all mortals, we can't stop that no matter what we do, its part
of the contract of living. He had a far longer and more pleasant life than
he would have had left on his own to fend for himself, and a life filled
with love is special indeed. Doing your best for Lester is surely as good as
it gets, and I can't imagine Lester thinking otherwise either.

And yes, I am sorry that Lester is gone, that he had to suffer, and you had
to witness that suffering. I didn't know Lester of course, but I do feel sad
that he has passed on, because in a small way, your writing allowed me to
get to know him and care about him.

Don't beat yourself for not being omnipotent, I mean, what a responsiblity
that would be!

Yowie
Ginger-lyn Summer - 12 Dec 2003 20:01 GMT
>Sweetie, we aren't miracle workers. We can just do the best we can do, and
>thats all anyone can ask of us. All mortal beings have to die at some point.
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>
>Yowie

I wholeheartedly agree with this.  It is so deeply painful to lose
furkid, yet we must know, somewhere in the back of our minds, when we
adopt them that, chances are, some day, we will lose them.  Sometimes
we really *do* all that we can, and it *is* good enough, but there is
nothing further that we could have done because it is just time for
the cycle of life to end.  It *still* hurts, but it sometimes helps to
tuck away that thought in the back of the mind to help deal with the
pain later.

Ginger-lyn
December, 9 years after losing two cats in one month
HRFLTiger - 12 Dec 2003 11:05 GMT
> Nah...it just seems pointless.  I tried to do the best I could, and it wasn't
> good enough.  There's no reason for anyone else to be concerned anymore.
>
> Art  

Art,

Loving someone else and trying to do the best you can for them is
never pointless. Lester spent his last days surrounded by people and
family who loved and cared for him. When you had no other choice, you
gave him the greatest gift you could by letting him go with dignity
and in peace. Your best *was* good enough.

{{{HUGS}}}

Helen M
JBHajos - 13 Dec 2003 13:08 GMT
To each his own, but may I relate another case where unrequested and
unexpected offers of sympathy were not "useless" at all?  "Useless" in
that they can't change the circumstances but helpful at healing the
pain?  This summer, my daughter, Stephanie, told me they had lost
their little Tortie, not long after losing their beloved Violet.  I
posted this news to RPCA and many of you voiced your sympathy.  I
forwarded these beautiful messages to Stephanie.  She replied that she
had been working hard to repress thoughts of Tortie and now realized
that she needed "to go through the grieving.  Tortie deserves it."
Your notes released the buried pain and began the healing process.
Stephanie was grateful to the "wonderful people" of RPCA and I echo
her gratitude.

Jeanne
Lars - 13 Dec 2003 13:45 GMT
Hi,

Not sure if this will arrive to the group properly as I have never been on a
news group until this past week... So here goes...

I have to agree with Jeanne here - That the expressions of sympathy here are
far from useless -

This past week (Monday, Dec 8 at 3:23 PM)  - my husband and I lost our
friend, companion and basically our 'kid'  - 'Gibby' (re:good night Gibs)  -
At first when my husband wrote - I had no interest in responses -
but.....then - one afternoon as I cried my eyes out - I began to read all
the caring and thoughtful responses - I read everyone of them - and cried
all the harder - learning that there are many out there that are caring
animal lovers as my husband and I are -

The letters/group responses mean "much" to me - and I want to say "thank you
to you all"!  As reading them has helped me to grieve and slowly I am
getting to the point that I do not always cry when I think of Gibby -

Margie & Chris Larsen

> > unexpected offers of sympathy were not "useless" at all?  "Useless" in
> that they can't change the circumstances but helpful at healing the
> pain?  This summer, my daughter, Stephanie, told me they had lost
> their little Tortie, not long after losing their beloved Violet.  I
> posted this news to RPCA and many of you voiced your sympathy.  I
> forwarded these beautiful messages to Stephanie. > Your notes released the
buried pain and began the healing process.
> Stephanie was grateful to the "wonderful people" of RPCA and I echo
> her gratitude.
>
> Jeanne
Railroadman - 13 Dec 2003 13:57 GMT
I have lost, or had to put down, 7 or 8 cats in my lifetime.  There
was a period of 25 years when I was traveling on the job, and single,
and therefore could not easily keep a pet, but since 1977, there has
been at least one cat in my home.  First there was "Puff" a yellow
eyed white female DSH, who would cry with my wife when I was away, and
who would crawl under the covers at night but never get between my
wife & I - she loved both of us.  In 1986, on the last night of my
wife's life in this world (terminal CA) she could not be removed from
the bed, and so the Hospice Nurse, who also liked cats, just let her
stay there.  Puff developed CA of her own in 1989 and had to be put
down at age 12+.  In 1978 we had acquired Barney, a tom cat kitten
from my wife's parents farm.  He was also devoted to my wife, less so
to me, and Puff treated him as "her" kitten.  He passed on in 12/91,
aged almost 14.  Now I have Prissy & Crissy, two littermates, who will
soon be 13 (4/12/04), and my new wife (married almost 10 years now)
has "Pretty Boy", a full blooded Himalayan that we got at an animal
shelter for $35.   He is devoted to Karen, but disdains to accept me,
while the ladies are attached to me, and still spit at my wife, even
though it is almost 10 years since she "invaded their territory".

J. H. Sullivan, Florida

>Hi,
>
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>>
>> Jeanne
polonca12000 - 13 Dec 2003 20:50 GMT
What a great description! Thanks.
Best wishes,
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Polonca & Soncek

<snip>Now I have Prissy & Crissy, two littermates, who will
> soon be 13 (4/12/04), and my new wife (married almost 10 years now)
> has "Pretty Boy", a full blooded Himalayan that we got at an animal
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> J. H. Sullivan, Florida
Hopitus2 - 13 Dec 2003 20:16 GMT
There are some of us who are such emotional saps that every time we read a
post re someone's loved cat headed for the RB tears roll down our faces even
though we never knew their cat and have no idea, usually, what it looked
like......explain that, except that we are emotional saps. Luckily, there is
no one around to witness this or question our sanity.

: Hi,
:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: This past week (Monday, Dec 8 at 3:23 PM)  - my husband and I lost our
: friend, companion and basically our 'kid'  - 'Gibby' (re:good night
ibs)  -
: At first when my husband wrote - I had no interest in responses -
: but.....then - one afternoon as I cried my eyes out - I began to read all
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
: >
: > Jeanne
Jette Goldie - 14 Dec 2003 01:46 GMT
> There are some of us who are such emotional saps that every time we read a
> post re someone's loved cat headed for the RB tears roll down our faces even
> though we never knew their cat and have no idea, usually, what it looked
> like......explain that, except that we are emotional saps. Luckily, there is
> no one around to witness this or question our sanity.

Well, except occasionally our spouses who already know that
we're emotional saps :-/

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Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
Apache and Dakota
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitties.html

Yoj - 14 Dec 2003 02:26 GMT
> > There are some of us who are such emotional saps that every time we read a
> > post re someone's loved cat headed for the RB tears roll down our faces
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Apache and Dakota
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitties.html

Some of us are such emotional saps that we usually don't read those
threads because they tear us up too much.

Joy
JP Hobbs - 16 Dec 2003 00:42 GMT
I am one of those emotional saps I spend half my time on this machine
bawling my eyes out, and the other half trying to write replies,
but I too think they help with the grief  Jean P.

> There are some of us who are such emotional saps that every time we read a
> post re someone's loved cat headed for the RB tears roll down our faces even
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> : >
> : > Jeanne
Karen - 13 Dec 2003 21:56 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Margie & Chris Larsen

I'm glad they helped. It was obvious how special Gibby was. That's to be
treasured.

Karen
Steve Touchstone - 12 Dec 2003 00:36 GMT
A candle is lit and the crew here are purring away

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Brenda - 12 Dec 2003 02:05 GMT
> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> mainstream in one of the bedrooms.    At least the surgery gave us a couple
> extra weeks, and I really believe he wasn't particularly unhappy until the
sudden spiral this evening.

> Art
> Temporary usercode - to be deleted when spam starts.  Use MyBrainHurts at this ISP to reach me

it's never easy - comforting hugs.
Brenda
JP Hobbs - 12 Dec 2003 03:58 GMT
Sorry ArtI cant help it I have to pass on my deepest sympathy
    Jean P.
> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Art
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LOL - 12 Dec 2003 06:08 GMT
> The night doctor called.  Lester has taken a bad turn for the worse and was
> described as being noticably worse than when we brought him in.  He had been
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Art  
> Temporary usercode - to be deleted when spam starts.  Use MyBrainHurts at this ISP to reach me

We will light a candle in remembrance of Lester; though I never met
him, I do know that he was a well-loved cat, and I am sorry to hear
that he is gone.  We are sending purrs to you and your family.

------
Krista
fuga  =^o^= - 13 Dec 2003 01:43 GMT
I am sorry that Lester's time came so quickly.  Lots of hugs to you and your
family.

Fuga
 
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