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jmcquown - 25 Nov 2003 04:09 GMT
Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
encourage raccoons to wander inside :)

I've never left Persia anywhere before and I'm a bit concerned about it.
She dislikes other cats immensely so if I leave her at the vet she will be
most unhappy.  But I have no other place to leave her.  My friends all have
dogs and that won't do at all!

I don't quite know what to do.  On the one hand I could sure use a getaway
for a few days.  On the other hand, I'll miss Persia terribly and worry
about her, which would mean I won't have a good time.  I don't know anyone
reliable enough to come in and feed/water Persia while I'm away.  So I'm
torn; do I drive to the mountain retreat or stay home with the cat?

Jill
Karen - 25 Nov 2003 04:17 GMT
> Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
> accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
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> Jill

Interview pet sitters. If you can find a good one, you can't believe how
much better you'll feel.

Karen
Hopitus2 - 25 Nov 2003 04:54 GMT
Less than a mile from us, next to our vet's place, is our "cat hotel" where
the Evil 3 stay at their resort when the hoomin slaves are out of town. The
vet is a part-owner, is 24/7 "on call" for "guests" of the "hotel" in case
of illness or accident during their stay. The Evil 3 would be flying balls
of fighting fur if they were all kept in the same quarters, so they each
have their 3-story "room" with shelves to jump up to. Walls of the little
"rooms" are opaque so their view is only of the cats across the room facing
them, far enough away to not be an "in-your-face" threat. D-pets are also
guests, but not near the cats; the d-pets are on the other side of the
sprawling building, where there are long runs of exercise chutes for them.
I never thought of Memphis as a small city; isn't there something like this
somewhere in town? Our cat hotel is clean as a whistle, and we get a group
rate for the Evil 3, 10% off the total bill. Food, treats, water, and litter
boxes are provided by the "hotel" for the guests.

: > Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
: > accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
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: Karen
Sam Nash - 25 Nov 2003 21:25 GMT
> Less than a mile from us, next to our vet's place, is our "cat hotel" where
> the Evil 3 stay at their resort when the hoomin slaves are out of town. The
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> rate for the Evil 3, 10% off the total bill. Food, treats, water, and litter
> boxes are provided by the "hotel" for the guests.

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Sounds like where our two are going to stay.  Do you mind sharing what they
charge down there in FL?
Sam
Hopitus2 - 26 Nov 2003 04:57 GMT
No, I sure don't....cats are $9.50 a night. You can find out about the place
(it's main customers are d-pets, not cats, but as I said, the cats are
housed on the front side, far away from where the dogs are, and you can't
even hear the dogs) at their website:
http://www.doghouseboardingkennel.com/home.htm
There are even pictures (but no cats in the pics, just d-pets).

: > Less than a mile from us, next to our vet's place, is our "cat hotel"
: where
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: charge down there in FL?
: Sam
Sam Nash - 27 Nov 2003 19:44 GMT
> No, I sure don't....cats are $9.50 a night. You can find out about the place
> (it's main customers are d-pets, not cats, but as I said, the cats are
> housed on the front side, far away from where the dogs are, and you can't
> even hear the dogs) at their website:
> http://www.doghouseboardingkennel.com/home.htm
> There are even pictures (but no cats in the pics, just d-pets).

Thanks, Hop.  Our two cats are going to Catnip Suites which is run by our
vet's office.  That way we're sure that if there's a medical problem, their
own vets who have all their med. records will be available (24x7 if need
be).  Still not sure what the cost is, but we think it's the best we can get
for the kids.
Sam
Hopitus2 - 28 Nov 2003 05:07 GMT
Catnip Suites! I like it! Sure sounds better than The DogHouse, where mine
stay, (good thing the Evil 3 can't read)....but I was actually relieved to
know my vet is part owner of the place. The now RB Akita had medical
problems, and staff there always were faithful with his meds and in contact
with vet re his condition while a guest there. It *is* a comfort to know vet
is handy with their very own medical records, just in case. Aside from bad
behavior from BT Rowdy, Evil 3 have never had any problems during their
stays.

: > No, I sure don't....cats are $9.50 a night. You can find out about the
: place
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: for the kids.
: Sam
Hopitus2 - 26 Nov 2003 05:05 GMT
If you look very carefully in the website pics of The DogHouse Boarding
facility, the front view with red fireplug in foreground shows my vet's next
door, just visible behind the building. I've been using them for years and
never realized they had a website! Called them just about every day from
Denver (yeah, cell phone roaming charge) to check on the Evil 3.
They were always happy to report to me, and over the years they have become
fond of BT Rowdy and are no longer afraid of him........

: > Less than a mile from us, next to our vet's place, is our "cat hotel"
: where
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: charge down there in FL?
: Sam
OU812? - 25 Nov 2003 23:22 GMT
> Less than a mile from us, next to our vet's place, is our "cat hotel"
> where the Evil 3 stay at their resort when the hoomin slaves are out
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>> Karen
Sounds very similar to the Cat Spa in my hometown.

Kristy

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badwilson - 25 Nov 2003 05:06 GMT
How long are you going to be away?  We have left Vino for 3 nights before
with no problems.  Just make sure you extra cat-proof the house and take
away any potentially unsafe objects.  Put out a big bowl of dry food and
lots of dishes of water around the house.  Have a clean litter box.
One or two times we've even left him for 4 nights, but I felt really guilty
about it.  Now we have the maid come in every morning or evening, but of
course we couldn't do that before we moved to Thailand.  But if it's just
for a few nights, the person wouldn't have to be too reliable, as long as
they did manage to make it in at least once a day or every 2 days.  And as
long as you could be sure that the person didn't let Persia out without
realizing it!  That's always my big worry.
It is always better to leave the cat in your own home where she is
comfortable, rather than moving her to somewhere else, if the time away is
relatively short.
Good luck with your decision.
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Britta
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> Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
> accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
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>
> Jill
jmcquown - 25 Nov 2003 07:39 GMT
> How long are you going to be away?  We have left Vino for 3 nights
> before with no problems.  Just make sure you extra cat-proof the
> house and take away any potentially unsafe objects.  Put out a big
> bowl of dry food and lots of dishes of water around the house.  Have
> a clean litter box.

I was thinking about 3 nights, 4 days.  And it all hinges upon whether or
not the roads are icy heading up to the Ozarks.  (You don't have to worry
about that in Thailand :) )

> One or two times we've even left him for 4 nights, but I felt really
> guilty about it.  Now we have the maid come in every morning or
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> that the person didn't let Persia out without realizing it!  That's
> always my big worry.

My other big worry is coming home to find a truck had been backed up to the
door and all my belongings stolen!  I'm very hesitant to turn over a key to
anyone.

> It is always better to leave the cat in your own home where she is
> comfortable, rather than moving her to somewhere else, if the time
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>> Jill
OU812? - 25 Nov 2003 23:28 GMT
> My other big worry is coming home to find a truck had been backed up
> to the door and all my belongings stolen!  I'm very hesitant to turn
> over a key to anyone.

Don't you have friends or acquaintances that you could trust with a key?
Perhaps a relative?  I had my neighbor look after my kitties on a three
night trip and nothing was missing when i got home.. (course i don't have
anything worth stealing anyway.. i'd be more upset over losing the cats!)

Kristy
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MaryL - 26 Nov 2003 00:27 GMT
> My other big worry is coming home to find a truck had been backed up to the
> door and all my belongings stolen!  I'm very hesitant to turn over a key to
> anyone.

Of course, it's very important to turn over a key only to someone you trust
(both to protect Persia and to prevent theft, now or at some time in the
future since it would be possible for that person to make copies of the
key).  I only give a key to people I know very well or who have come highly
recommended by several sources (as with the pet-sitter, who I now can also
refer to someone I know "well").  Even with all that, I am somewhat paranoid
about security.  Therefore, several years ago I had *two* deadbolt locks
installed on my front door.  One is keyed so that the key fits all keys in
the house.  The second one is called a "maid's lock."  The key to that fits
*only* that lock (although my "master" key also fits the maid's lock).  That
way, any time I need to leave a key with someone, I give them the key to the
maid's lock.  I have to leave the other lock unlocked during that time, but
once I return home I again use both locks.  This means that even if someone
gets a duplicate of the key to the maid's lock, it will not fit any other
lock in the house (including the second lock on the front door).

I hope all of this doesn't sound too confusing.  It does give me an
additional sense of security.

MaryL
MaryL - 25 Nov 2003 15:02 GMT
> Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
> accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
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>
> Jill

Jill,

I suggest that you check with your vet and other friends who have pets.  Ask
for recommendations for good pet-sitters.  I used a pet-sitter last summer,
and it worked out beautifully.  My two cats were able to stay in their home
environment, and the pet-sitter came in twice a day to check on Holly and
Duffy, feed them, and give them some companionship.  She told me later that
she loved coming because I had encouraged her to feel free to use the TV,
have some snacks at the table and watch the birds, etc.  She said that's
just what she did -- which was pleasant for her and in my opinion also gave
my twosome more of a sense of normalcy.

I strongly disagree with the person who said you could safely leave your
cats alone for 3 or 4 days.  It's true that many people have done this with
no problems, but just think of all the emergencies that could occur in that
length of time.  I would never leave mine for more than one night without
having someone check on them.  If you can't find a professional pet-sitter,
maybe one of your friends would be willing to do this for you (for a fee if
it involves extra distance for them).  But do make sure whoever you use is
super-reliable, both from the standpoint of knowing that he or she would
come to your home regularly and also from the standpoint of knowing that the
person would be very careful not to let Persia out of your house or
apartment.

Please check around ... there are many people who do pet-sitting.  It would
give you peace of mine and would maintain a more normal environment for
Persia.  I have followed a number of your posts, and I know she is very
special to you.  Incidentally, I used a couple of plug-in Feliway diffusers
while I was gone, just in case there would be any stress.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Hopitus2 - 25 Nov 2003 17:53 GMT
Hey, where do you get these "plug-in Feliway dispensers"? Never heard of
Feliway till I frequented this ng......am thinking if I had one of these it
might contribute to better relations between our "girls" (who hate each
other), and the occasional skirmishes that go on here between conflicting
feline purrsonalities. Is Feliway catnip or some kinda drug? Plant?

: > Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They
: don't
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: http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
: http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Dan Mahoney - 25 Nov 2003 18:12 GMT
> Hey, where do you get these "plug-in Feliway dispensers"? Never heard of
> Feliway till I frequented this ng......am thinking if I had one of these it
> might contribute to better relations between our "girls" (who hate each
> other), and the occasional skirmishes that go on here between conflicting
> feline purrsonalities. Is Feliway catnip or some kinda drug? Plant?

They're called "Feliway diffusors", and you cna find them online or at
larger pet stores like Petsmart and Petco.

They contain a sythetic version of the stuff contained in cat's facial
glands - the stuff they are smearing all over you when they rub their
faces and chins all over your clothes.
Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2003 18:17 GMT
It's a syntheic pheramone that mimics the mark cats put around with their
face, which calms them. I get them locally at Petco. The vet has them too.
Someone said valleyvet.com sells them more inexpensively.

Karen

> Hey, where do you get these "plug-in Feliway dispensers"? Never heard of
> Feliway till I frequented this ng......am thinking if I had one of these it
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> : http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
> : http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Sherry - 25 Nov 2003 18:52 GMT
>Hey, where do you get these "plug-in Feliway dispensers"? Never heard of
>Feliway till I frequented this ng......am thinking if I had one of these it
>might contribute to better relations between our "girls" (who hate each
>other), and the occasional skirmishes that go on here between conflicting
>feline purrsonalities.

Try the Feliway. I think it'll affect the mood of the girls. My daughter used
it for a particularly anxious cat who would spray everywhere and tear up blinds
and such every time she worked multiple night shifts. She even consulted an
animal behaviorist who suggested he had separation anxiety.  It honestly
settled him down a lot.
This was before the availability of diffusers. It was just a spray bottle. It
was expensive, IIRC around twenty dollars for a tiny bottle.

Sherry
MaryL - 25 Nov 2003 23:16 GMT
> Hey, where do you get these "plug-in Feliway dispensers"? Never heard of
> Feliway till I frequented this ng......am thinking if I had one of these it
> might contribute to better relations between our "girls" (who hate each
> other), and the occasional skirmishes that go on here between conflicting
> feline purrsonalities. Is Feliway catnip or some kinda drug? Plant?

Feliway is used for behavior modification and can be very useful in reducing
stress. It is available in plug-in diffusers (with refills available) and as
a spray. I used the plug-ins so it can be working all the time. I no longer
need it on a regular basis, but it was very helpful when I brought a new cat
(Duffy) into my household and wanted to introduce him to my resident cat
(Holly). Now I use it only when I think there could be some stress, such as
when I will be away for a few days (very rare for me), and I keep them in
different rooms. The spray is excellent for an occasional use, such as
spraying the carrier about 20 minutes before you take your cat to the vet,
but the plug-in diffuser is better for long-term use because it releases
premeasured doses. Refills can be purchased for the dispenser. One bottle
lasts a little more than a month.

I like to order mine from ValleyVet (http://www.valleyvet.com). They have
better prices than most others, and there is no charge for shipping. The
last time I check, they listed Feliway for $29.95 for a diffuser with one
bottle of Feliway. It is also available as a spray for $15.95.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
polonca12000 - 25 Nov 2003 20:06 GMT
Is there any other place you could go to that accepts pets?
Hoping for a good solution to your problem,
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Polonca & Soncek

> Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
> accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
> encourage raccoons to wander inside :)
>
> I've never left Persia anywhere before and I'm a bit concerned about it.
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LOL - 26 Nov 2003 07:00 GMT
> Long drive to a cottage in the mountains at the end of the year.  They don't
> accept pets, unless you count leaving the back door open which might
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>
> Jill

I know this is not what most people do, but I always board Mike at the
vet's when we have to be gone longer than overnight.  I am well aware
he doesn't enjoy it, but *I* feel better knowing that he is safe and
that if something does go wrong with my little darling while I'm gone
- well, what better place to be?

It's not that I don't have people I could trust to take care of him,
but I don't trust *Mike* not to get by any such person and out the
door.  DH and I are professional-grade cat-thwarters, and even we have
trouble with this sometimes.

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Krista
Vicki J - 26 Nov 2003 22:37 GMT
Have you tried asking your vet? I did and it turned out that one of
the nurses at the practice runs a little business "on the side" as a
pet sitter. She not only feeds the cats and changes litter, but plays
with, cuddles and brushes Lucy. Tia, of course, hides in her bolt hole
under my bed while she's here as she's a bit shy.

It's not a cheap service, $20 per day, but it's worth it for the peace
of mind. Oh, and Alison will also put the bin and recycling out for
collection if I ask her.

Cheers

Vicki
 
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