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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2005Urgent Q. Flea Control
I have got myself 4 little urchin throw-away kittens today. They are completely covered in fleas. About 10 weeks old. Problem is, I don't have any Advantage, and have called around, no friends have any on hand, and the vet is closed. One friend does have one vial of Frontline for dogs. Now, I already have read that it is the same formulation as the Frontline for cats, the only difference is the volume in the vial. After reading on it, though, it says plainly "Use on Dogs ONly Do not use on rabbits. Do not use on other animals." And I'm too afraid to use it now. Are there *different* kinds of Frontline now? The pack says, "Frontline Top Spot." Active ingredients: fipronil, 9.7%, inert ingredients, 90.3% I bathed them with Dawn dishwashing liquid and managed to drown, pick and squish a great number of the fleas. There are still live fleas on them, though. Can anyone advise me about using the Frontline. Sherry I've never used Frontline To Spot, only ever the spray and over on this side of the pond, it's the same for both cats & dogs & is safe on tiny kittens from a couple of days old. I've used on kittens a week old & they've been fine. When I took in Francis as a kitten he was *infested* with fleas. After having him sprayed with Frontline I combed over 50 dead ones from him - no wonder he was run down - he was exceptionally anaemic.... I like Frontline far more than fleas.. Cheers, helen s I'm sitting here at the moment surrounded by dead and dying fleas, as I Frontlined the cats this morning......... Nanny > I've never used Frontline To Spot, only ever the spray and over on this > side of the pond, it's the same for both cats & dogs & is safe on tiny [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers, helen s If you have a syringe, measure it out and give each one about 1/4 ml. > If you have a syringe, measure it out and give each one about 1/4 ml. Did you miss the part where she said it said on it: "Use on Dogs ONLY. Do not use on rabbits. Do not use on other animals." These are kittens involved unless YOU are vet or vet tech you shouldn't be giving out advise like this. Especially without seeing the kittens. You have no idea how big they are. For all that you know 1/4 of a ml could kill the kittens. > > If you have a syringe, measure it out and give each one about 1/4 ml. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You have no idea how big they are. For all that you know 1/4 of a ml > could kill the kittens. All Frontline packages say the same thing. The chemical is the same, and many people on this group use dog Frontline on their cats because it's much more economical. And I have a pretty good idea of the size of 10-week-old kittens! I neglected to mention that the reason the Frontline package says don't use on other animals is because the full ampule of a dog-sized dose is too large for a cat, and the manufacturer doesn't want any dummies using the full (dog) ampule on a cat (or rabbit, or whatever). > > Did you miss the part where she said it said on it: "Use on Dogs ONLY. > > Do not use on rabbits. Do not use on other animals." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And I have a pretty good idea of the size of 10-week-old kittens! >> > If you have a syringe, measure it out and give each one about 1/4 ml. >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >And I have a pretty good idea of the size of 10-week-old kittens! The sweet 2 year old tabby calico in my lap at the moment and her brother got half a ml each of Frontline Plus at about 12 weeks - she's been as flea free as all the others ever since. Plus and Top differ in that Plus has slightly more fipronil and also contains (S)-methoprene. No side effects on any of my cats or kittens. Since they are essentially the same price, I see no reason ever to buy the Top version. I wouldn't hesitate to use 1/4 ml on a ten-week old kitten.  SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) On Sun 04 Sep 2005 03:27:16p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:1125862036.051656.79350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com): > I have got myself 4 little urchin throw-away kittens today. > They are > completely covered in fleas. About 10 weeks old. Ugh, Sherry, again!!?! You are the angel of kittens, that's for sure. *sigh* Bless you and good luck! SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > On Sun 04 Sep 2005 03:27:16p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > (news:1125862036.051656.79350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com): [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Cheryl Thank you guys. Since I pretty much picked & squished most of the fleas, I just wanted to put a little drop on them. I just wanted to make sure the info. that I had wasn't outdated, that Frontline was *still* using the same formula for dogs and cats. Here's the stupid story. My son found them in his front yard, they picked them up and started looking them over. Some little girls came by and said, "Those are our kittens." Great. So they took them home. Five minutes later they were back with the kittens and said, "Our mom took them away. She doesn't want them back. But she said we can keep the mama cat." ARRRGGGHHH!!!! I have spent the day cooling off so that I don't locate Mama and chew her head off. I plan to very calmly tell her that the kittens already had flea anemia, and would have probably been dead in another few days. I plan to give her an application for the free spay/neuter program for Mama Cat at the shelter. Then if she gives me any lip I am going to tell her that dumping defenseless kittens in someone's yard in the heat is a felony according to the Oklahoma Animal Cruelty statute and I am pressing charges unless she lets me spay that mama cat. Lord help me that I don't lose my temper. Sherry On Sun 04 Sep 2005 06:28:41p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:1125872921.810007.302070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com): > I plan to give her an application for the free spay/neuter > program for Mama Cat at the shelter. Then if she gives me any > lip I am going to tell her that dumping defenseless kittens in > someone's yard in the heat is a felony according to the Oklahoma > Animal Cruelty statute and I am pressing charges unless she lets > me spay that mama cat. Lord help me that I don't lose my temper. That's a very good plan. They don't need any more kittens! gggggrrrrrrr Good luck Sherry. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > On Sun 04 Sep 2005 06:28:41p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > (news:1125872921.810007.302070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com): [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > Cheryl I second that one. Why put additional stress on a momma kitty when help is freely out there? I don't understand it. kili > Thank you guys. Since I pretty much picked & squished most of the > fleas, I just wanted to put a little drop on them. I just wanted to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > pressing charges unless she lets me spay that mama cat. > Lord help me that I don't lose my temper. We will be sending you "temper temper" purrs. And thank-you purrs to you for looking after the poor kittens. I hope the flea problem is under control now. SignatureMarina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > > Thank you guys. Since I pretty much picked & squished most of the > > fleas, I just wanted to put a little drop on them. I just wanted to [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > -- > Marina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. Thanks, Marina. It went pretty well. That family is poor as church mice though. Turns out the mama cat isn't even theirs, it just strayed up. She took the S/N application and said she will follow through with it. We'll see. I actually got a home for one of the kittens to my son's next door neighbor. I'm taking the remaining 3 to the shelter tomorrow and am going to ask if they still have any of that excess canned 9-Lives I can give the lady w/ the mama cat. It's so frustrating. They're actually not bad people. They just don't have a clue about pet responsibilities and I swear she honestly thought school kids would pick those kittens up, take them home, and they'd end up in wonderful homes. She thought what she was doing was okay. Sigh. I didn't get mad at her at all. I just felt sorry that people can be so hillybilly ignorant about little animals like that. Sherry Sherry > > > Thank you guys. Since I pretty much picked & squished most of the > > > fleas, I just wanted to put a little drop on them. I just wanted to [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Sherry hmmm excess 9Lives, are you referring to the bundles of Fancy Feast you supposedly bought them? No, I meant Fancy Feast. We have an agreement with Purina Mills and feed Purina products exclusively, since they give it to us at the local mill. Purina makes Friskies, Fancy Feast, Pro Plan, Purina One, in addition to Fancy Feast. However, we have to take what's available and rarely ever get Fancy Feast. Angel loves Fancy Feast, it was her favorite food, and she was sick and not eating well. Hence the purchase. Unfortunately 9-Lives is readily available 4 cans for a dollar at the Dollar store, and a lot of people donate it, or bring what they have left when they relinquish an animal, and it stacks up down there. Generally we give to poor people who otherwise have a hard time buying cat food. The real mystery is why I'm bothering explaining this to you. Go back into lurkdom, Trish, until your next opportunity to show your a**. Sherry Lots of purrs and best wishes for the kitties and thank you for taking such good care of them, Sherry, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > > > Thank you guys. Since I pretty much picked & squished most of the > > > fleas, I just wanted to put a little drop on them. I just wanted to [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Sherry > I have got myself 4 little urchin throw-away kittens today. They are > completely covered in fleas. About 10 weeks old. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The pack says, "Frontline Top Spot." Active ingredients: fipronil, > 9.7%, inert ingredients, 90.3% The cat version contains 9.8% fipronil. Be careful of the dose amount if you use it, use half a regular cat dose. The regular cat dose is 0.5ml. > I bathed them with Dawn dishwashing liquid and managed to drown, pick > and squish a great number of the fleas. There are still live fleas on > them, though. Can anyone advise me about using the Frontline. > I have got myself 4 little urchin throw-away kittens today. They are > completely covered in fleas. About 10 weeks old. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry I can't advise about the Frontline, but be careful of the dishwashing liquid. When my ex-husband brought home my tiny dog Sampson, he dunked him in the sink and bathed him with dishwashing liquid and managed to burn his eyes. That cost a visit to the vet which we couldn't afford. I bought a bottle of Suave baby shampoo. Amazingly enough, even though he lived 18 years and I bathed him once a week, I never had to replace that bottle! I broke down in tears after his death when I opened the cupboard and there was that bottle on the shelf with about 1/2 inch of shampoo in it. Bless you, Sherry, for all you do. Good luck with the bitty kitties! Jill > > I have got myself 4 little urchin throw-away kittens today. They are > > completely covered in fleas. About 10 weeks old. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bless you, Sherry, for all you do. Good luck with the bitty kitties! When I was a kid, my mom preferred Fels Naptha soap for the laundry, and we used it also to bathe our cats because it killed their fleas. O don't know if the soap is toxic to cats, but none of ours ever seemed to be affected by it. |
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