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Cat bylaw in Halifax

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Enfilade - 25 Aug 2005 21:01 GMT
There's a new pet bylaw currently under discussion in my city.

I think there are some good points in it, such as

--requiring cat owners to license their pets as dogs are (in my old
home, both Nox and Smokey had licenses--the bits were only 6 weeks old
when we left the area)

--not allowing animals, cats or dogs, to roam around outside unattended

However, the one part of it that REALLY has me steamed is the
limitation of no more than 3 cats in a residential dwelling.

Now if this passes, our 4 would be fine as they'd be under a
grandfather clause, but honestly...if this had been in effect when we
moved here, what then?  DP HAS to go to med school in this city...I
guess we'd have had to lie and pretend the bits were one cat between
the two of them?  And risk a $500 fine if we were caught?

(When we moved in and asked if the place allowed cats, our landlord
asked us how many.  We said two.  We only HAD two, we only PLANNED to
have two.  The landlord is still unaware of the bits...however, they
never explicity SAID more than two was a problem.)

I think it's ridiculous.  The issue is not having 4 cats in an
apartment, but whether those 4 cats are properly cared for.  One cat
will stink if you never clean its litter box...four cats, with four
boxes cleaned daily, don't stink at all.

I understand why it's unwise to have 10+ cats in a two bedroom
apartment, but a large HOUSE could properly, hygenically, safely house
ten cats if the owners were willing to put the appropriate amount of
effort/time/money into their care.

(The limit does not apply to kittens under 8 weeks old so a person is
fine if their queen has a litter of 6; however, once they hit 8
weeks....that person would be 4 cats over the allowable limit...)

My old city was considering a similar limit but it got voted down.  I
can only hope this one gets voted down too.  I'll be writing a letter
to the city this weekend.

I swear this bill was created by people who have no idea what it is
like to live with multiple cats.  It's like the people who came over to
our place and exclaimed, with shock, "We would never know you had 4
cats if we hadn't seen them all!"  It's because they expected our place
to be stinky with cat hair in piles everywhere!  Gross!  As if we
wouldn't clean up after our animals!

--Fil
Kalynnda Berens - 25 Aug 2005 22:29 GMT
> There's a new pet bylaw currently under discussion in my city.
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>
> --Fil

My partner and I didn't know that my city has a four cats and four dog
limit when we bought our house. We're at seven. Since they don't roam,
the only problem would be if one of our neighbors decided to be evil and
turn us in (if they could figure out how many we had).

I totally agree that the number is arbitrary, and stupid. Our seven are
all fixed, indoors with an outdoor enclosure, and well taken care of.
Our seven cats cause a lot less disturbance to anyone than four large
dogs would...which are allowed.

The one thing the law has done is prevent me from putting a "please
rescue our X cats" sticker on the door, as that could be seen by a city
official. And in a sense, that endangers the cats.

Would you mind posting your letter when you have it done?  I'm not going
to rock the boat now, but we are planning on moving in a year or two.
I'd like to be able to tell my city that one reason we're moving is that
stupid law, but do it in a polite way that might actually lead to changes.

Kalynnda, with Carol and the seven spoiled fur-balls.
Marina - 26 Aug 2005 05:24 GMT
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> However, the one part of it that REALLY has me steamed is the
> limitation of no more than 3 cats in a residential dwelling.

That's silly. They tried to pass a bylaw like that in one of our
neighbouring cities (maybe Vantaa, where Christine lives?). They tried
to set a minimum on the number of square metres per animal. I suppose it
makes sense in a way, but the limit was the samw for cats and for dogs!
I'd say a big dog requires much more space than a cat or a small dog.
Furthermore, cats don't require so much floor space as different levels
to hang out on and to climb. I don't think the law passed.

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> (The limit does not apply to kittens under 8 weeks old so a person is
> fine if their queen has a litter of 6; however, once they hit 8
> weeks....that person would be 4 cats over the allowable limit...)

So this promotes giving separating the kittens from their mother at a
much too young age. These people obviously don't know much about cats.

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Karen - 26 Aug 2005 05:41 GMT
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> So this promotes giving separating the kittens from their mother at a
> much too young age. These people obviously don't know much about cats.

And it seems odd that they don't consider a single animal can be just as
abused as a group (abuse/neglect tending to be the main object behind these
things.) Right.
Christine K. - 26 Aug 2005 09:42 GMT
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Couldn't find anything on cats on Vantaa's home page, but will try to
look further on other sites too. Only dogs and dog taxation was mentioned.

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Fi - 26 Aug 2005 14:26 GMT
> There's a new pet bylaw currently under discussion in my city.
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> --Fil

Hi, I'm in Halifax too. They've been talking about that cat by-law for years
now... it always meets with a lot of resistance.

You're right, it shouldn't matter how many cats you have, as long as they
are cared for properly.

I used to think the part about not letting cats roam unattended was
ridiculous but since our beloved Felix has been MIA I'm rethinking my
position. Our kitten (ok, she's 6 years old, but try to tell her she isn't a
kitten) doesn't go out and any other cats we get will be indoor cats.

It's going to be a hard by-law to enforce though.

Just my 2 cents.

Fi
Enfilade - 26 Aug 2005 15:02 GMT
> I used to think the part about not letting cats roam unattended was
> ridiculous but since our beloved Felix has been MIA I'm rethinking my
> position. Our kitten (ok, she's 6 years old, but try to tell her she isn't a
> kitten) doesn't go out and any other cats we get will be indoor cats.

I'm a proponent of "indoors-only."

My first landlord (ok, a sergeant who let me sleep in his basement, for
which I paid a nominal rent) had 3 cats and he let them all
outside--until the neighbours complained, because one, Sade, had a
habit of crapping on sidewalks and the neighbour's porches, smearing
muddy tracks down their windshield, leaving dead prey lying around,
ripping up plants, etc.  She was very destructive inside the house as
well, but the Anthonys accepted her behaviours...but their neighbours
shouldn't have to.

I don't think people who let their cats OUT are bad people, but it's an
unnecessary risk to our guys, whose thoughts about outside range from
curiousity of the unknown (the bitties) to utter boredom (Nocturne) to
pure primal fear (Smokey).  And I'd be pissed if a Dog were crapping on
my lawn and digging up my herbs, so I can see how someone might be
pissed if a cat were doing it.

I hope you find your Felix.  Purrs.

--Fil
Jo Firey - 26 Aug 2005 17:11 GMT
>> I used to think the part about not letting cats roam unattended was
>> ridiculous but since our beloved Felix has been MIA I'm rethinking my
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>
> --Fil

I'd much prefer that ours were indoor only.  But I have been overruled both
by DH and by the cats.  Molly, a former feral made it clear that outside
access was a condition to her living here.

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