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Chris B - 14 Sep 2003 20:50 GMT
I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
contractor and often work from home but I do also have jobs where I am
working a 7 hour day away from home mid-week.  This isn't the case right now
but could be in the future.

My concern is that my cat might get lonely during the time when I am away
from the home.  However, some say that because cats are nocturnal, they
should be OK at home alone during the day but I do not want to end up with
an unhappy cat.  If this does turn out to be the case, I will buy another
one to keep him company but, at the moment, I would rather only have one.

What is the concensus of opinion here?  Does it really depend on the cat or
would it be preferable to always keep two in this situation?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Chris
Ivor Jones - 14 Sep 2003 21:15 GMT
> I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
> breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
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> Chris

Well, two cats are always better than one :-)

For myself, I wouldn't be happy having a cat if there wasn't access to a
garden, I don't much like the idea of them being confined indoors on a
permanent basis.

Regarding being left alone though, different cats do have different
personalities, my Missy can sometimes be quite happy on her own for long
periods, but I do know that she misses me if I'm not there. When I spent
the night away from home a few weeks ago (there was someone else in the
house, so she wasn't on her own) she knew I was coming home before I got
in the door and she was all over me purring and demanding to be fussed and
fed :-)

Having said that a friend has three cats, and it's not unknown for one of
them to disappear for days and then wander back in as though she'd just
been gone for half an hour..!

Personally I wouldn't worry if you're only away for a few hours, but I
would never leave a cat alone for more than a day, and then only in
exceptional circumstances.

It's a fallacy that cats are loners and independent, they need love and
companionship as much as anyone else.

Ivor
Ivor Jones - 15 Sep 2003 01:54 GMT
I've just remembered something I read somewhere, I don't recall where, but
it went along the lines of the following:

"Remember, you have your friends, your work, your social life. I have only
you."

Ivor
Spam Me - 14 Sep 2003 23:49 GMT
>What is the concensus of opinion here?  Does it really depend on the cat or
>would it be preferable to always keep two in this situation?

They are ALWAYS happier when there are two. This is without exception.
Ted Davis - 15 Sep 2003 02:16 GMT
>They are ALWAYS happier when there are two. This is without exception.

I know one cat that makes life miserable for any other cat that lives
with him - he absolutely *must* be an only cat.  I understand that in
his current home, he is attacking the family dog since there are no
other cats.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Larry Osborne - 15 Sep 2003 01:36 GMT
> I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
> breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
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> Chris

Cats are really not as much loners as people tend to think.  It is more a
matter of how we keep them that they appear to be so.

A second cat is always better, both for the cat and for you.  If you do not
have a second cat, you will need to make sure that you provide the time with
your cat misses being with a second cat.  It can amount to an hour or two a
day in play etc and that is in addition to any regular socializing that you
do petting / lap fungus time/ etc that may go on anyway.  The cat will need
you more as you are the only living thing that it can interact with.  It can
also prevent behavioral problems that might otherwise appear.  It will not
prevent all problems but it will help.  Also if there is no other cat about
and if for some reason you cannot keep the cat, the cat will probably not be
able to be housed with another cat because it hasn't been socialized at all
and so fears/hates being around any other cat..  Best solution is to get a
couple of cats that are already together, a couple of kittens from the same
litter, or a couple of young kittens that would get along much faster than a
couple of adults.  Like some people though, some cats really are loners.

Best of luck.

Larry Osborne
emanuela - 15 Sep 2003 03:18 GMT
I think that another cat would help him not to feel alone, but I have a cat,
who is always alone during the day.
There is no choice as I have to work so...
but he is not at all an unhappy cat, believe me. So do not worry, cats are
independent beings, they need love but as every being they need a good
quality love.

It is true, most of the time they sleep during the day, if you can be with
him it is better, but if you can't do not worry too much.
My cat is 2 years and a half old and has a big terrace, so does not suffer
during the day... he has his own activities like catching flies and some
other insects and playing with everything.

Ciao and have a nice day,

Emanuela
delphine - 18 Sep 2003 08:54 GMT
According to my experience, cat is independent and it will show interest
on you when it likes. I don't mean cats are selfish. They usually have
interest on you from time to time, but not always. When you are back
home, it will have interest on you for some time, and play with it full
hearted at that time, so it will feel happy. You can even sleep with it
(let it sleep on the bed, beside your pillow), but it is not an option
for people who think it is not hygienic.

It is better to have two cats, so they can play with each other during
the day and night when they are not interested on you.

emanuela 写道:

> I think that another cat would help him not to feel alone, but I have a cat,
> who is always alone during the day.
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> Emanuela
Sabrina's Mom - 15 Sep 2003 03:19 GMT
> I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
> breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
> contractor and often work from home but I do also have jobs where I am
> working a 7 hour day away from home mid-week.  This isn't the case right now
> but could be in the future.

My Sabrina does fine being alone all day.   Actually, since she's always
been an "only cat" she has definately shown her distaste to other animals
(cats or dogs) being in the house.   Even now that we've had the dog for 9
months, she still doesn't really like her.

Also, on the weekends when we are home all day long, Sabrina tends to spend
little time out with us until the evening hours.   She will tend to spend
her daytime hours (the hours we are usually at work) either sleeping on the
bed or on the couch or sleeping just about anywhere.

But, in the evenings, that is her time to be with us.   Even if we have been
home all day and she's been sleeping on the bed, come "dinner" time (5pm for
her, when we usually get home) she's out looking for attention.   Feed me,
then I'll come love all over you for a while.

Now - if by being alone you mean overnight or for days on end, I don't think
that is healthy, even if you had 2 cats to keep each other company.   We've
done the occasional overnighter away where we'll have someoen stop in to see
her, and even if we are gone for 1 night, when we get home we hear about it
with the snotty meow and "you will sit and pet me till i'm ready for you to
stop" ... (we get lectured by her, let me tell you).

Another consideration, it is always best to get cats as pairs from the
beginning.   Introducing a second cat at a later date, you may find the 2
cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
before.
Chris B - 15 Sep 2003 07:01 GMT
Thanks for all your help.

Firstly, breeders won't sell you these cats if you let them outside (unless
very safe area) - they have no natural protective instincts and really are
indoor cats - otherwise I would not think of getting one.

Second - no, I would not ever think of leaving a cat for longer than 6/7
hours during day - never at night.  And this would never be a regular
occurrence.

However, I have taken on board all your comments and will consider what to
do - again, mixed opinions!  I won't have the opportunity to get two kittens
from same litter - but I might still consider another kitten later.

Chris

> > I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for
> this
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> cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
> before.
Sabrina's Mom - 15 Sep 2003 19:45 GMT
6/7 hrs should not ba a problem at all for the cat to be alone.   Just
be sure you can dedicate a good half hour of attention to the cat as
soon as you get home, and then some more as the rest of your time at
home pans out.  

With Sabrina, we get home in the evenings, its a given, you sit down,
she sits on your lap, a good 15 mins of attention - and then its "FEED
ME NOW" and she's off to eat.  

Actually, now that we have the dog the routine is.  Arrive home, feed
cat (and pet), give dog love for about 5 mins while cat eats.  Put dog
outside to go potty, sit with cat on lap for about 15 mins, let dog in
and feed the dog, then continue with the human routines.   That way
both animals get the attention they want/need and neither deals with
jealousy over the other.

>Thanks for all your help.
>
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>> cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
>> before.
Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 18:10 GMT
thanks for this - has put my mind at rest.

My cat will certainly be getting my FULL attention if I have been away for
the day.  It's something I am most looking forward to...
> 6/7 hrs should not ba a problem at all for the cat to be alone.   Just
> be sure you can dedicate a good half hour of attention to the cat as
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> >> cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
> >> before.
TUV - 15 Sep 2003 22:49 GMT
>  they have no natural protective instincts and really are
> indoor cats - otherwise I would not think of getting one.

What do you mean by this? Cats born indoor haven't got instincts like strays
or cats born in the wild?

If this is what you meant, where did you hear this absurd idea?
Judy - 16 Sep 2003 01:10 GMT
> >  they have no natural protective instincts and really are
> > indoor cats - otherwise I would not think of getting one.
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> If this is what you meant, where did you hear this absurd idea?

I'm curious too!

Judy
Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 18:21 GMT
Perhaps I have worded this incorrectly.

The facts are that good breeders will not sell you a Ragdoll cat if you are
going to let it outside (unless a very secure area).

Ragdolls are reputed to be so docile that they will not defend themselves
from other cats and animals so they are susceptible to harm and also being
'catnapped'.

The reason I specifically chose a Ragdoll is because they are 'indoor cats'.

I have read this in many articles

> >  they have no natural protective instincts and really are
> > indoor cats - otherwise I would not think of getting one.
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> If this is what you meant, where did you hear this absurd idea?
~*SooZy*~ - 16 Sep 2003 15:14 GMT
where are you from Chris?

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> Thanks for all your help.
>
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> > cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
> > before.
Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 18:22 GMT
Where in the world?  London - Notting Hill
> where are you from Chris?
>
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> > > cats never get along together.   Just a thought.   I've seen this happen
> > > before.
~*SooZy*~ - 16 Sep 2003 22:12 GMT
Ok just interested because I am from Portsmouth and have 2 Ragdolls,  they
are beautiful cats, very addictive, so I know you wont have one for long ;-)
have you found a kitten yet?

I have a half Ragdoll, perfect cat, then I got another kitten from Poole,
then I have just got another, it was my daughters but she wants me to keep
her now, as Skie does not like being alone, she has bonded so quickly with
my 2 :-)

You are right Ragdolls are indoor cats... :-)
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> > where are you from Chris?
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> > > > before.
Nina S. - 15 Sep 2003 19:35 GMT
Being an indoor only cat is not breed specific. Any cat, regardless of
breed, or lack thereof, can be indoor only. I have 6 dsh's that are indoors
99.9% of the time. They have a fenced in balcony for fresh air, bird
watching and sun beams. Most breeders, (reputable ones that is), here in the
states keep their cats inside. Unless you really want a Ragdoll for whatever
reason, (other than it being an indoor cat), why not adopt from your local
shelter? Chances are you'll save money....quite a lot actually...and save a
life in the process. While there, you could look for siblings, and adopt
both.

Nina
> I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
> breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
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> Chris
Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 18:24 GMT
I am already committed to the purchase of the cat I wanted - which I pick up
on 10th October.

I was specifically attacted to its reputation as a gentle 'lap' cat.
> Being an indoor only cat is not breed specific. Any cat, regardless of
> breed, or lack thereof, can be indoor only. I have 6 dsh's that are indoors
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> > Chris
~*SooZy*~ - 16 Sep 2003 22:13 GMT
what colour is he/she? where are you getting her from?

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> > > Chris
Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 22:20 GMT
I will have a choice of blue mitted or blue (I think) tabby.  Getting him
from a breeder in Norfolk.  It's a boy.  Picking him up 10th October.

Chris
> what colour is he/she? where are you getting her from?
>
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> > > >
> > > > Chris
M.C. Mullen - 17 Sep 2003 09:15 GMT
| I will have a choice of blue mitted or blue (I think) tabby.  Getting him
| from a breeder in Norfolk.  It's a boy.  Picking him up 10th October.

If you can't make up your mind...how about taking the two of them?

Carola
Chris B - 18 Sep 2003 18:49 GMT
Not an option - I am getting first choice but whichever one I don't take has
already been spoken for.

> | I will have a choice of blue mitted or blue (I think) tabby.  Getting him
> | from a breeder in Norfolk.  It's a boy.  Picking him up 10th October.
>
> If you can't make up your mind...how about taking the two of them?
>
> Carola
~*SooZy*~ - 16 Sep 2003 15:12 GMT
> I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for this
> breed is because they are indoor cats and I have no garden.  I am a
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>
> Chris

Hi Chris, I have a Ragdoll too, they really need more company than any other
cat I have ever had, in fact my daughters Ragdoll got so lonely being left
alone for 6 hours a day, that her neighbours could hear it crying.  She has
to work more hours now so she has brought it down to me to look after.
Because the 2 Ragdolls get on so well my daughter has decided to let me keep
her for good, which I am thrilled about. We also have a half Ragdoll....

You may be better off getting 2 ragdolls, or a Ragdoll and another cat! but
please remember Ragdolls are very docile animals and do NOT defend
themselves, so please be very careful what other cat you bring into your
house! otherwise you will wind up with one very un happy Ragdoll :-(

good luck
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Chris B - 16 Sep 2003 18:27 GMT
Thanks - I think you have confirmed what I was saying about Ragdolls being
very docile and not definding themselves.

My Mother is also happy to look after my cat if I am constantly away all day
so he won't be left alone for continual long periods.  I have already
decided to get a second cat if he does end up unhappy - I don't have that
option currently but it is a consideration.

Thanks for your input.

Chris
> > I'm about to purchase a Ragdoll cat.  One of the reasons I am going for
> this
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> good luck
~*SooZy*~ - 16 Sep 2003 22:16 GMT
Chris email me I have a suggestion soozy@totalise.co.uk
your cat will be fine, Ragdoll kittens spend most of their time fast asleep
;-) they have to be the laziest cats ever :-)
I bet your Mum ends up buying one too LOL
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> Thanks - I think you have confirmed what I was saying about Ragdolls being
> very docile and not definding themselves.
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> >
> > good luck
 
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