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Question about cats and oil-based paint.
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Coookie - 27 Sep 2003 21:50 GMT Hi there,
I'm pretty scared right now and nobody can't help me cause it's Saturday...and the Poison Control Centre won't help me cause it's for cats. Here's the deal...
My landlord came over to paint the stairs with a red oil-based paint. The cats left it alone for a good 6 hours, and we had blocked the stairs with a board...but anyways.one of them got to it and now has red paws...I cleaned it the best I could with paint thinner and then soap and water and then just water...then my other cat went and did the same thing. Good thing my third cat is a dummy.
Anyways, now my first kitty (Napoleon) is fine, but he was spitting a lot and drooling so finally I gave him milk and wet food...that calmed him down, and no puke yet. My second one, Willie, is running everywhere around the house, spitting, drolling, hissing and hiding from me...they both keep licking their paws over and over.
Anything I should/shouldn't do?
I can't get a vet till monday...
Thanks for any input you can have,
Chris
m. L. Briggs - 27 Sep 2003 21:59 GMT >Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Chris Isn't there an emergency Vet in your area?MLNB
Coookie - 27 Sep 2003 22:06 GMT No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if they were real sick, but they are starting to settle a bit...I just don't want thme to be poisoned or something. Would it help to make them puke? Or give them milk and wait like in people?
Chris
> >Hi there, > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > Isn't there an emergency Vet in your area?MLNB Nina S. - 27 Sep 2003 22:43 GMT Do not give them milk. Cow's milk is not good for cats. On top of everything else, this could, and probably will, give them diarrhea. I wouldn't make them throw up either. Only a vet is qualified to make the decisions for treatment.
Nina
> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but > then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > > Isn't there an emergency Vet in your area?MLNB Bob Brenchley. - 28 Sep 2003 13:14 GMT >> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but >> then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> > > >> > Isn't there an emergency Vet in your area?MLNB Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make the same mistake again.
>Do not give them milk. Cow's milk is not good for cats. On top of everything >else, this could, and probably will, give them diarrhea. I wouldn't make >them throw up either. Only a vet is qualified to make the decisions for >treatment. > >Nina Wrong, most cats can drink cows milk without any problem - in fact, outside the USA where this daft myth seems to have gained hold, most cats DO have milk in their diet.
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Call my cat? No, I just run the can opener.
Nurse Crow - 29 Sep 2003 06:48 GMT I agree with Bob... Cats can drink cows milk without problems. None of the nine we hqave ever owned had a problem with any lactose based products.
PS: Bob -- Why do you still bother correcting us top-posters? Some people, despite any "official" word on the subject, enjoy this style. Can't you just accept the difference and ignore it? A lot of your good advice and knowledge gets wasted because you have this tendency to aggrevate people. I doubt you change any minds on the matter, and it seems that it would just lead to unnecessary high blood pressure. ~Ed~
>>> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but >>> then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >outside the USA where this daft myth seems to have gained hold, most >cats DO have milk in their diet. ~Ed~ "If it doesn't hurt, I'm not doing you any good."
Bob Brenchley. - 29 Sep 2003 21:13 GMT >>>> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but >>>> then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >~Ed~ >"If it doesn't hurt, I'm not doing you any good." Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make the same mistake again.
>I agree with Bob... Cats can drink cows milk without problems. None of >the nine we hqave ever owned had a problem with any lactose based >products. > >PS: Bob -- Why do you still bother correcting us top-posters? Some >people, despite any "official" word on the subject, enjoy this style. So? The majority don't. An until you get newspapers to start printing from the bottom of the page up, you will go on being classed as a idiot for top-posting on usenet.
>Can't you just accept the difference and ignore it? No, either you follow what is after all a common sense rule, or you get flamed.
> A lot of your >good advice and knowledge gets wasted because you have this tendency >to aggrevate people. I doubt you change any minds on the matter, and >it seems that it would just lead to unnecessary high blood pressure. >~Ed~ >  Signature Bob.
A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five!
Nurse Crow - 04 Oct 2003 06:39 GMT [snip]
No, either you follow what is after all a common sense rule, or you
>get flamed. Bob, Do you stop people on the street who are wearing clothing you don't like or you think isn't appropriate (like no boots on a snowy day) and flame them just because they aren't following a common sense rule? What makes this so different? Do you correct the grammer of people who sit at the table next to you in a pub? You say it is the will of the majority that user avoid top posting. Well, it is also clearly the will of the majority on this group that you quit flaming people for their choice of posting style. By your own logic, you should stop. You believe it is a matter of courtesy for everone to use the "accepted" style of posting. All legitamite users of Usenet believe it is a matter of courtesy not to flame others, and to be polite to people when posting a disagreement with them. If you want people to follow your requests for courtesy, you must do the same. I've said it before and it's worth repeating: You have a lot of good knowledge to share with us. Even if I (or any of us) don't agree with all your views, it is still beneficial to the group as a whole to have those views out there for others to consider. People won't listen to you, however, if the first thing they think of when they see your name is, "Oh, he's just that guy who calls people stupid and moronic all the time." It is those negative images that put up barriers to your becoming one of the gurus of this group. I hate to see energy wasted like that. Our feline friends deserve better from us. They need us to focus on the ways we can help them co-exist in a world that is becoming increasingly hostile to them. No-one wins when that focus is lost. Here's my offer: I personally will attempt to hold to the standards of Usenet posting (including giving up my beloved top posts) and will encourage others to do the same, if you will stop using such inflammatory messages as, "Moric posting style...et al" and will instead reword your standard response to be polite, and even explaining why you feel as strongly as you do. I know I am much more willing to make changes in any endeavor I'm part of if the person requesting the change does so with politeness and respect. I know that I also lend more credence to information and advice that is delivered in a manner that encourages learning and sharing. I believe the same is true of most of the people out there, especially anyone who has hung on through this rather long missive.
Will you consider my offer? Either way, thank you for at least hearing me out...
~Ed~
~Ed~ "If it doesn't hurt, I'm not doing you any good."
Nan - 04 Oct 2003 14:26 GMT >[snip] > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >rule? What makes this so different? Do you correct the grammer of >people who sit at the table next to you in a pub?
>snipped No, he doesn't since it is safer for him to put down people who can't physically retaliate.
Just do what everyone else does, and put him in your killfile.
Nan
RTR - 05 Oct 2003 06:10 GMT Milk is a laxative for cats. Plain and simple. -R
> >> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but > >> then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > outside the USA where this daft myth seems to have gained hold, most > cats DO have milk in their diet. Bob Brenchley. - 07 Oct 2003 04:14 GMT >> >> No, not really...I could leave a message and they would call me back, but >> >> then it' like a real emergency and it'll cost me a lot. I wouldn't mind if [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >> outside the USA where this daft myth seems to have gained hold, most >> cats DO have milk in their diet. Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make the same mistake again.
>Milk is a laxative for cats. Plain and simple. >-R Your stupidity is showing.
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Nina S. - 27 Sep 2003 22:38 GMT Good grief. Lead based paint, any paint for that matter, and paint thinner are both toxic to cats. This is a "real" emergency and they are poisoned. Only a vet can determine how severe the damage is.
If it were one of my cats, I would be on the phone calling every vet in the phone book. Most have emergency numbers to call if/when they are closed. Even if it's going to cost a bit more, and inconvenience you, aren't they worth it?
If this were your child who had ingested paint, was spitting and drooling, would you wait until Monday? Monday could very well be to late for them both.
> Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Chris Coookie - 27 Sep 2003 23:00 GMT Oh my, no need for over reacting...
I live in a small town, and no, there isn't an emergency vet here. I washed them a lot with clear water and the paint thinner is gone...but there is nothing else to clear oil-based paint. The Spca can't help me, Poison Control can't help me, and the cats are running around fine now. They are eating and playing together, so I think they'll be ok.
My vet said that giving cats milk in small quantities is ok, considering that my cats came from the spca and when I got them they were adults and they were used to it. I don't give it to them very often, but they do like it as a treat and it doesn't give them dihearea.
Chris
> Good grief. Lead based paint, any paint for that matter, and paint thinner > are both toxic to cats. This is a "real" emergency and they are poisoned. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > Chris Tina Gibson - 28 Sep 2003 12:58 GMT Just a note that instead of paint thinner in the future vegetable oil or olive oil will remove paint as well. Any time a chemical is ingested by any living creature look for the MSDS!! It gives info on toxicity etc. For oilbased paint all that I looked up said DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. This is common for a lot of chemicals - the chemical coming back up can sometimes do more harm to the lungs or esophagus. Also if your Poison control centre won't help you - find another one someone should be compassionate enough to offer assistance!! Glad they're okay though. You can go to the below website and scroll down to the MSDS link for the oil based paint to get an idea. Tina
http://www.davispaint.com/Cook/exthsetrm.htm
> Oh my, no need for over reacting... > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > > > > > Chris Tigg - 27 Sep 2003 23:56 GMT Where did you find the lead base paint in the oil base paint posting.
> Good grief. Lead based paint, any paint for that matter, and paint thinner > are both toxic to cats. This is a "real" emergency and they are poisoned. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > Chris Nina S. - 28 Sep 2003 00:25 GMT Oops, must have had a brain fart. OIL based paint is just as toxic.
> Where did you find the lead base paint in the oil base paint posting. > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > > > > > Chris Bob Brenchley. - 28 Sep 2003 13:14 GMT >Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Chris After 6+ hours most of the volatile chemicals which could harm a cat have evaporated. As your cat will only have ingested a tiny amount of paint I would think the spitting was down to having some stuck to the roof of the mouth (a problem area for the average cat).
Clean their paws with warm soapy water (I always use a shampoo designed for babies) and they will soon get over things.
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Anything on the ground is a cat toy. Anything not there yet, will be.
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