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Liz - 08 Aug 2007 02:56 GMT
We have two spayed female cats, not related, 3 1/2 years old.  Both came to
us as second hand "rejects" at age 1 - one with feline leukemia (we didn't
know she had it until after we spent $200 on shots and blood tests) and the
other whose previous owners declawed ALL 4 paws.  For two years these cats
were wonderful, normal house pets, much loved by my DH and I.  (Background -
we've always had outdoor cats but because of the pre-existing conditions
described above, these cats were forced to be indoor pets).  In early June
the cat with FL suddenly started peeing outside the litter box.  We
immediately called the vet because we suspected a UTI, which she did have.
During that visit the vet also discovered that her weight had dropped from
12 1/2 lbs in Nov. to 8 pounds and he alerted us to the possibility that her
FL was actively affecting her immune system.  After 2 weeks on antibiotics
she still was peeing outside the box, and now the other one was following
suit.  The vet said to move the litter boxes into another room and close off
the room where they had been.  No luck...they only poop in the litter boxes
now.  But worse than that, they no longer just pee on the tile
floor...they've taken to peeing on carpets.  We've already had to throw away
two room sized area rugs, and just last night  I found a wet spot on one of
our sofas.  The vet came back today and Maggie now weighs only 7 pounds.  My
DH isn't ready to let her go yet....the vet is coming back next week to
euthanize her.  But I had a discussion with the vet today and told him that
Jazzy was still peeing out of the box.  He told me frankly that he has never
seen a case where this problem could be cured.  Even after Maggie is put
down, Jazzy will be peeing where they remaining scent is.  And furthermore,
he told us that even without either cat in the house, we'll never be able to
bring in another cat because even if the cat has excellent litter box habits
when it arrives, within a very short period of time the new cat will smell
the old urine scent and assume that it's okay to go there.  This news is
devastating to me and my DH.  We have always had cats and can't imagine
living without them.  But we're now in our 60s and can't see spending the
rest of our lives crawling around on tile floors, mopping up cat pee, plus
keeping all our bedroom and bathroom doors permanently closed so that the
cats won't wander in to relieve themselves.

So I'm asking all you cat lovers and experts here....do you think this
scenario is true?  Are we meant to be catless???

Liz
Matthew - 08 Aug 2007 03:11 GMT
Get a professional cleaner to come in and remove all the scents. The enzyme
are the problems they need to be removed normal cleaners don't do it.

Second if you bring another cat into the house  you are going to have the
have everything cleaned anyways due to the FL

You may have to have the tile ripped up and the underneath cleaned
professional or replaced completely.

To see problems area  get a black light it will show urine stains.  There is
something called urine gone that works real well  in fact I think if you go
to www.urinegone.com  you get a free black light when you order a unit.

> We have two spayed female cats, not related, 3 1/2 years old.  Both came
> to us as second hand "rejects" at age 1 - one with feline leukemia (we
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> was still peeing out of the box.  He told me frankly that he has never
> seen a case where this problem could be cured.

Your vet is wrong on that. Your vet is inexperienced than it is a matter of
cleaning the source .

 Even after Maggie is put
> down, Jazzy will be peeing where they remaining scent is.  And
> furthermore, he told us that even without either cat in the house, we'll
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> Liz

I am sorry you are going to have to put the furball down
Liz - 08 Aug 2007 03:38 GMT
Matthew, thanks for your response.  Do you know for a fact that professional
cleaning will remove the odor?  We don't want to bring in a new kitty if
it's going to have the same problem.  BTW, we do have a black light.

Thanks again.

Liz

> Get a professional cleaner to come in and remove all the scents. The
> enzyme are the problems they need to be removed normal cleaners don't do
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>
> I am sorry you are going to have to put the furball down
Matthew - 08 Aug 2007 04:39 GMT
It depends on the material
What type of tile  are we talking ceramic or vinyl.  If it is vinyl it will
more in likely have to be ripped up and the concrete below chemical
scrubbed.
Where the carpet is  the pad below will need to be ripped out guaranteed and
possibly the concrete below will have to be cleaned also

During the hurricanes in 2004  I had rescued a feral colony and housed them
in a concrete store room that had a/c  the tom's before we go them neutered
marked the whole room.  It took professional cleaning people to remove the
stains and odors

> Matthew, thanks for your response.  Do you know for a fact that
> professional cleaning will remove the odor?  We don't want to bring in a
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>> I am sorry you are going to have to put the furball down
Liz - 10 Aug 2007 00:11 GMT
It's vinyl.  Problem is, there is a pool table in this room.   In order to
pull up the vinyl, first a couple of very strong men will have to
disassemble that pool table.  Nothing is ever easy. <G>  I guess what I'm
really looking for is someone who can convince me that our vet is wrong.and
that a cat WILL actually go back to using its litter box despite the
residual odor.  With that reassurance, I'll go ahead and hire professional
cleaning people, or whatever else it will take.  A life without kitties is
something we just can't fathom!

> It depends on the material
> What type of tile  are we talking ceramic or vinyl.  If it is vinyl it
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>>> I am sorry you are going to have to put the furball down
Matthew - 10 Aug 2007 00:31 GMT
> It's vinyl.  Problem is, there is a pool table in this room.   In order to
> pull up the vinyl, first a couple of very strong men will have to
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> professional cleaning people, or whatever else it will take.  A life
> without kitties is something we just can't fathom!

I can understand  got rid of the 1st wife for the cats

The vinyl tile will have to come up if anything got under it  and the
concrete will have to be cleaned  sorry :-(

It happened to me before also I use individual tiles in the kitchen and one
of the furballs had an accident due to a UTI  had to ripp up the whole thing
and clean the concrete below it.  I solved the problem by going with one
solid piece and had the concrete chemically sealed underneath to prevent any
future problems.  At the edges of the tile I had it sealed along the edges
to prevent any seepage from getting in.  It was a costly mistake for me but
you live and learn

>> It depends on the material
>> What type of tile  are we talking ceramic or vinyl.  If it is vinyl it
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>>>> I am sorry you are going to have to put the furball down
 
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